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Title: "Under my plan, of Cap & Trade, electricity rates will necessarily SKYROCKET"
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 13, 2010, 10:25:28 AM
Just a reminder for anyone who has not seen this gem. 

And some of you wonder why millions of people hate this asshole.  ::)  ::) 

Title: Re: "Under my plan, of Cap & Trade, electricity rates will necessarily SKYROCKET"
Post by: 12secGT on May 13, 2010, 10:45:55 AM
Just a reminder for anyone who has not seen this gem. 

And some of you wonder why millions of people hate this asshole.  ::)  ::) 


Part of the bigger plan my friend. Anyone not drunk on the Kool Aid sees it.
Title: Re: "Under my plan, of Cap & Trade, electricity rates will necessarily SKYROCKET"
Post by: Al Doggity on May 13, 2010, 10:49:22 AM

 ::)

Do you still find it hard to believe BP would take a calculated risk in not maintaining their safety equipment?

Title: Re: "Under my plan, of Cap & Trade, electricity rates will necessarily SKYROCKET"
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 13, 2010, 10:55:00 AM
Your point is?  They gambled and lost.  Now they will get the hammer dropped on them.  That's life. 
Title: Re: "Under my plan, of Cap & Trade, electricity rates will necessarily SKYROCKET"
Post by: 12secGT on May 13, 2010, 10:59:13 AM
::)

Do you still find it hard to believe BP would take a calculated risk in not maintaining their safety equipment?


From someone in the engineering business I can say yes or no. It depends on the situation here. Airlines may not do "routine" checks because it costs thousands in labor costs. That is a calc. risk. But that risk could be huge if it rears. So BP may have if they thought the risk was a small amount of oil would be released and not this mess they have today. It is part of business and they got burned by their "calculated risk." Now, I say pay up, BP.
Title: Re: "Under my plan, of Cap & Trade, electricity rates will necessarily SKYROCKET"
Post by: kcballer on May 13, 2010, 11:12:19 AM
Great! We don't pay the real cost of energy anyway.  Factoring in environmental effects and health risks associated with the burning of fossil fuels, ethically it's very easy to see why fossil derived energy should cost more.  BP is going to pass on any 'losses' they make to consumers through higher prices anyway isn't it time we sought something better?  The way to do that is to allow for the real cost of fossil fuels to be paid for up front not over time like we have been doing.  This focuses us all on energy conservation and helps push the need for alternative energy forms that do not have such costly, both environmentally and ethically, mishaps. 
Title: Re: "Under my plan, of Cap & Trade, electricity rates will necessarily SKYROCKET"
Post by: Fury on May 13, 2010, 11:15:48 AM
Hahaha, someone is actually supporting this stuff? Now I've seen it all.
Title: Re: "Under my plan, of Cap & Trade, electricity rates will necessarily SKYROCKET"
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 13, 2010, 11:15:59 AM
KC - so you have no problem with parents not being able to put in their childrens' mouths so to pay for this garbage?

More money to goldman sachs via carbon trading and less to parents being able to go on a vacation?  

More moey to Al Gore and less to parents trying to pay the mortgage?

More money to the disgusting awful government and less to parents maybe wanting to save up for college for their kids?

This is exactly why I wish 95% of leftists would get run over by a huge bus and then for a second time by an 18 wheeler.  

  

  
Title: Re: "Under my plan, of Cap & Trade, electricity rates will necessarily SKYROCKET"
Post by: kcballer on May 13, 2010, 11:18:50 AM
Oh please no one will go hungry because their power is higher.  Nice scare mongering yet again.  Does it ever end with you?  The constant one sided view of everything, the anger, the hate, the lies?  I mean seriously for someone who supposedly works hard you spend far too much time on this board and far too much of your life consumed by negativity. 
Title: Re: "Under my plan, of Cap & Trade, electricity rates will necessarily SKYROCKET"
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 13, 2010, 11:20:48 AM
So, if a family is living week to week and all of a suddent their electric bill gets jacked up, and the cost of good they buy gets jacked up, the cost of gasoline gets jacked up, you do think it will affect them? 
Title: Re: "Under my plan, of Cap & Trade, electricity rates will necessarily SKYROCKET"
Post by: BM OUT on May 13, 2010, 11:23:48 AM
Oh please no one will go hungry because their power is higher.  Nice scare mongering yet again.  Does it ever end with you?  The constant one sided view of everything, the anger, the hate, the lies?  I mean seriously for someone who supposedly works hard you spend far too much time on this board and far too much of your life consumed by negativity. 

The point is this is all based on the lie of man made global warming.If you look at the studies this cap and trade scheme will have almost ZERO effect on the atmosphere.This is another government scheme to control the energy sector,just like they now control health care,the auto industry and the banking industry.This is Obamas plan.Have government control everything so they then can dicte what cars we drive,how hot we have our houses,what we eat,where we go etc.Its the liberal wet dream because THEY know better then us how to run our lives.
Title: Re: "Under my plan, of Cap & Trade, electricity rates will necessarily SKYROCKET"
Post by: kcballer on May 13, 2010, 11:26:30 AM
So, if a family is living week to week and all of a suddent their electric bill gets jacked up, and the cost of good they buy gets jacked up, the cost of gasoline gets jacked up, you do think it will affect them? 

Don't pretend you even give a sh*t.  Said family would be able to get some form of government assistance to help them out something you are OPPOSED to.  So please spare everyone your pretend posturing and pretend care for a family in America.  We've seen your posts and the health and well being of anyone outside of yourself is NOT what you care about at all.  This is like when you commented negatively on medicare cuts as if you oppose them when in fact you OPPOSE the whole system of medicare.  

Hypocrisy at it's finest ladies and gentleman i present to you the posts of 333...
Title: Re: "Under my plan, of Cap & Trade, electricity rates will necessarily SKYROCKET"
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 13, 2010, 11:42:00 AM
KC - maybe people dont want to be on welfare from the government to pay for this shit.  did that ever dawn on you, that people have some sense of pride and dignity and dont want handouts if they dont need them?

Unreal.   
Title: Re: "Under my plan, of Cap & Trade, electricity rates will necessarily SKYROCKET"
Post by: Fury on May 13, 2010, 11:42:26 AM
Don't pretend you even give a sh*t.  Said family would be able to get some form of government assistance to help them out something you are OPPOSED to.  So please spare everyone your pretend posturing and pretend care for a family in America.  We've seen your posts and the health and well being of anyone outside of yourself is NOT what you care about at all.  This is like when you commented negatively on medicare cuts as if you oppose them when in fact you OPPOSE the whole system of medicare.  

Hypocrisy at it's finest ladies and gentleman i present to you the posts of 333...

This is a retarded concept. So let's make it so more people can't afford to pay their bills and then have the government bail them out. Where is the money going to come from? That's right, from the people who can afford their bills. Great, let's keep giving other people's money away to push yet another stupid agenda by Obama.  ::)

Cap and trade = pointless and unnecessary.
Title: Re: "Under my plan, of Cap & Trade, electricity rates will necessarily SKYROCKET"
Post by: The Showstoppa on May 13, 2010, 11:50:07 AM
This is a retarded concept. So let's make it so more people can't afford to pay their bills and then have the government bail them out. Where is the money going to come from? That's right, from the people who can afford their bills. Great, let's keep giving other people's money away to push yet another stupid agenda by Obama.  ::)

Cap and trade = pointless and unnecessary.


BF, that is what it's ALL about....anybody thinking Odrama's doing some "good samaritan" type stuff is delusional.  Govt wants to grow.
Title: Re: "Under my plan, of Cap & Trade, electricity rates will necessarily SKYROCKET"
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 13, 2010, 11:58:08 AM
KC - they wouldnt need govt welfare in the forst place had the govt not intentionally jacked up their  electric bill and other costs. 


WATCH THIS CLIP AND GET A CLUE

"The Government breaks your legs, hands you a crutch, and demands you say thank you to it for being able to walk"



I used to love this guy.  Harry Browne - RIP!



Title: Re: "Under my plan, of Cap & Trade, electricity rates will necessarily SKYROCKET"
Post by: Fury on May 13, 2010, 01:04:05 PM
BF, that is what it's ALL about....anybody thinking Odrama's doing some "good samaritan" type stuff is delusional.  Govt wants to grow.

Exactly. And it amazes me that people are so quick and willing to spend other people's money. The entire situation can be avoided by doing the logical thing and not raising rates. This is just more redistribution of wealth shit designed to homogenize everyone. ::)
Title: Re: "Under my plan, of Cap & Trade, electricity rates will necessarily SKYROCKET"
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 13, 2010, 01:28:58 PM
Celente is 100% correct.  



The toe sucker gives a good description of what this treason will accomplish

Title: Re: "Under my plan, of Cap & Trade, electricity rates will necessarily SKYROCKET"
Post by: MRDUMPLING on May 13, 2010, 01:38:35 PM
Great! We don't pay the real cost of energy anyway.  Factoring in environmental effects and health risks associated with the burning of fossil fuels, ethically it's very easy to see why fossil derived energy should cost more.  BP is going to pass on any 'losses' they make to consumers through higher prices anyway isn't it time we sought something better?  The way to do that is to allow for the real cost of fossil fuels to be paid for up front not over time like we have been doing.  This focuses us all on energy conservation and helps push the need for alternative energy forms that do not have such costly, both environmentally and ethically, mishaps. 

Sorry sir, you are the one misguided if you actually think that cap and trade will lead to other forms of energy than fossil fuels.  It does nothing to stem the tide of carbon and only puts more money into the pockets of the already super rich.  Cap and Trade is a scam period. 

Keep these articles coming 333...we don't always agree but these articles are usually spot on!