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This was an ownage. I thought Rogers' superior KO power and toughness would win over Overeem's superior skills at striking. I was wrong. Lol...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHNOQHapWXQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHNOQHapWXQ)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Tossing a very heavy Rogers around like a ragdoll is no easy feat!
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Tossing a very heavy Rogers around like a ragdoll is no easy feat!
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Yeah that was crazy
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I got to say...it pains me a lot to admit it...but I think that Overeem would destroy Fedor.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I got to say...it pains me a lot to admit it...but I think that Overeem would destroy Fedor.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I wouldn't go as far as to say he would destroy him but he has a better chance of beating Fedor than any other fighter I can think of...
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The thing about Fedor, is that he is a machine. He makes very little mistakes, he finds his opponents weakness' and exploits them. And he can take a hit. This makes him very very dangerous, to anyone.
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I wouldn't go as far as to say he would destroy him but he has a better chance of beating Fedor than any other fighter I can think of...
Standing Fedor literally only has a puncher's chance of knocking Overeem out. Fedor certainly has the power, but Overeem's technique at striking and his reach is so superior that I wouldn't want to fight Overeem standing if in the case I were Fedor. On the ground, Fedor does have a chance, but Overeem is so incredibly strong and good at avoiding submissions that it would be a bitch for Fedor to submit him. I wouldn't bet on Fedor in a fight against Overeem, but he's the one fighter who could defeat Overeem.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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The thing about Fedor, is that he is a machine. He makes very little mistakes, he finds his opponents weakness' and exploits them. And he can take a hit. This makes him very very dangerous, to anyone.
yes, when you think he's beeing brutalized by someone, he just delivers a hard ko, stronger and tougher than he looks, unbeliavable fighter, will retire undefeated. should fight more often!!
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I dont think Overeem has the will to beat Fedor.
Fedor simply WILL not lose... He finds a way to win every time. He said in an interview somewhere, he looks at a fight like the man hes fighting is trying to take food from his family, or something like that.
Fedor will = unstoppable. The man does not know HOW to lose.
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yes, when you think he's beeing brutalized by someone, he just delivers a hard ko, stronger and tougher than he looks, unbeliavable fighter, will retire undefeated. should fight more often!!
Everyone has his limits. When an opponent carries 50 lbs more of muscle than you, has far superior striking ability and also reach, and has proven to be extremely slippery and hard to submit, it might be too much even for Fedor. Fedor had trouble submitting Rogers, and yet Alistair is stronger than Rogers and much more skilled on the ground.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Everyone has his limits. When an opponent carries 50 lbs more of muscle than you, has far superior striking ability and also reach, and has proven to be extremely slippery and hard to submit, it might be too much even for Fedor. Fedor had trouble submitting Rogers, and yet Alistair is stronger than Rogers and much more skilled on the ground.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I’m excited to see them fight…
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This was an ownage. I thought Rogers' superior KO power and toughness would win over Overeem's superior skills at striking. I was wrong. Lol...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHNOQHapWXQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHNOQHapWXQ)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
We know........NEXT!
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Tossing a very heavy Rogers around like a ragdoll is no easy feat!
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he sounds like... a boy on excessive amounts of steroids :D, when was this vid about?
he allways had that ;" hehe look how much smaller you are" look in his face...I dunno...
SECONDLY! Don Frye is a real man :D
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Everyone has his limits. When an opponent carries 50 lbs more of muscle than you, has far superior striking ability and also reach, and has proven to be extremely slippery and hard to submit, it might be too much even for Fedor. Fedor had trouble submitting Rogers, and yet Alistair is stronger than Rogers and much more skilled on the ground.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
that added (50lbs ::) 20 lbs more muscle doesnt do you any good if a lighter fighter punches harder.
far superior striking ability? hahahah come on now mma fights are brawls, fedor has a great reach, have you seen him delivering long distance blows on the ground? Like i said before, fedor fights in such a way that the other fighter doesnt have advantage on his further reach. Only thing alistar should do is stick and move, if they go toe to toe, alistar will get get KTFO
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that added (50lbs))) 20 lbs more muscle doesnt do you any good if a lighter fighter punches harder.
It's way more than only 20 lbs. Factor in bodyfat, and Alistair has 40 to 50 lbs of muscle more than Fedor.
And yep, Fedor does have the power to knock any man out, but my point is that Alistair will lend a lot more punches and also kicks because his striking technique is superior and his reach is greater. It is extremely unlikely that Fedor will hit Alistair on the chin which is what it would take to knock him out because Alistair won't let him. He is a K-1 champion, not a bar brawler like Rogers. So it is extremely unlikely that he will let his guard down for Fedor to connect.
far superior striking ability? hahahah come on
Yes, a guy who's background is kickboxing and is a K-1 champion has superior striking ability than a man who's background is sambo and who almost got knocked out by a subpar fighter once.
now mma fights are brawls, fedor has a great reach, have you seen him delivering long distance blows on the ground? Like
Yes, against Nogueira, who is nowhere as strong or skilled as a striker as Overeem...
i said before, fedor fights in such a way that the other fighter doesnt have advantage on his further reach. Only thing alistar should do is stick and move, if they go toe to toe, alistar will get get KTFO
You want to bet with me on this one? Fedor will get demolished if he tries to stand with Alistair: superior reach, speed accuracy...Do you think Fedor would win K-1? Lol please...c'mon...
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Winning k1 once doesnt make you a superior striker Suckmymuscle, only good fighters there are bonjasky and hari, he lost the second match against hari brutally, bonjasky also much lighter fighter defeated overeem. In k1 i can see fedor losing to hari, against overeem? not so sure about that. If crocop was in his prime now, he would easily dominate the k1 for years, the competition aint that good anymore, he was unlucky with a guy ''hoost'' that was unbeatable. You saw the match crocop-fedor standing right, it didnt do a kickboxer much good in exchanging blows with fedor, even though mirko has superior, precize punches, he got the less out of their exchanges, you re overlooking fedor's standing game, its the most dangerous hitter with good reach and good defence.
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Overeem vs Fedor
yes now that would be an interesting matchup. my bet is on Fedor though but could go either way probably.
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Winning k1 once doesnt make you a superior striker Suckmymuscle, only good fighters there are bonjasky and hari, he lost the second match against hari brutally, bonjasky also much lighter fighter defeated overeem. In k1 i can see fedor losing to hari, against overeem? not so sure about that. If crocop was in his prime now, he would easily dominate the k1 for years, the competition aint that good anymore, he was unlucky with a guy ''hoost'' that was unbeatable. You saw the match crocop-fedor standing right, it didnt do a kickboxer much good in exchanging blows with fedor, even though mirko has superior, precize punches, he got the less out of their exchanges, you re overlooking fedor's standing game, its the most dangerous hitter with good reach and good defence.
I rest my case. Fedor's toughest fight ever was against Crocop at the 2005 PRIDE GP, and it went all five rounds and Fedor won on a decision. Now that was back in 2005 when fedor was prime, and Crocop is much smaller and weaker than Overeem. Now if prime Fedor struggled against Crocop, imagine how he will fare past his prime against a striker who's as good as Mirko but much stronger and with more power. Fedor would get destroyed.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Christ, every month it's someone new that will beat Fedor. Every time they get destroyed. But I will say that Overeem is the only guy worthy of being in the cage with Fedor right now and does stand the best chance of beating him. Still think he loses badly, though.
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Christ, every month it's someone new that will beat Fedor. Every time they get destroyed. But I will say that Overeem is the only guy worth of being in the cage with Fedor right now and does stand the best chance of beating him. Still think he loses badly, though.
Dude, I'm the World's greatest Fedor fan, but Overeem is just a monster. He is a Brock Lesnar who can actually kick and punch fast precise and hard.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I rest my case. Fedor's toughest fight ever was against Crocop at the 2005 PRIDE GP, and it went all five rounds and Fedor won on a decision. Now that was back in 2005 when fedor was prime, and Crocop is much smaller and weaker than Overeem. Now if prime Fedor struggled against Crocop, imagine how he will fare past his prime against a striker who's as good as Mirko but much stronger and with more power. Fedor would get destroyed.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
fedor is not in his prime anymore ??? his lasts fights never went beyond the first round, he demolished everyone with ko
hong man choi is also excellent striker and far heavier and bigger than overeem, also did k1, that didnt stop fedor to deliver some blows to his huge cranium and win the fight smart. yes, i said before i can see this fight go to distance, i dont think crocop is any less then overeem btw, he won dirty with 3 knees to the groin. no matter how bigger the guys are they just cant beat him, history has show that, anything is possible ofcourse but use your logic, if someone wins 30 fights in a row the odds are small that he will lose.
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Dude, I'm the World's greatest Fedor fan, but Overeem is just a monster. He is a Brock Lesnar who can actually kick and punch fast precise and hard.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
dont agree, allistar lacks power punches, he couldnt ko brett if the fight continued for 2 days
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when you see how much trouble the russian guy had with rogers and overeem so little, you can draw conclusions that uvereem can take him, but it doesnt work that way, every fight stands alone.
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he sounds like... a boy on excessive amounts of steroids :D, when was this vid about?
he allways had that ;" hehe look how much smaller you are" look in his face...I dunno...
SECONDLY! Don Frye is a real man :D
don frye is my new hero 8)
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MMAth never fails
What is MMAth? MMAth is the process of using a sequence of past mixed martial arts fight results that provide a logical and objective argument for predicting the result of a future mixed martial arts bout ::).
A basic MMAth equation:
Tito Ortiz beat Forrest Griffin who beat Shogun,
...therefore Tito Ortiz should beat Shogun ;)
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MMAth never fails
What is MMAth? MMAth is the process of using a sequence of past mixed martial arts fight results that provide a logical and objective argument for predicting the result of a future mixed martial arts bout ::).
A basic MMAth equation:
Tito Ortiz beat Forrest Griffin who beat Shogun,
...therefore Tito Ortiz should beat Shogun ;)
::)you're not paying much attention, here the lads are discussing 2 guys that beat the same fighter within 6 months period, so not so strange to discuss it, but still doesnt hold much value.
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fedor is not in his prime anymore ??? his lasts fights never went beyond the first round, he demolished everyone with ko
hong man choi is also excellent striker and far heavier and bigger than overeem, also did k1, that didnt stop fedor to deliver some blows to his huge cranium and win the fight smart. yes, i said before i can see this fight go to distance, i dont think crocop is any less then overeem btw, he won dirty with 3 knees to the groin. no matter how bigger the guys are they just cant beat him, history has show that, anything is possible ofcourse but use your logic, if someone wins 30 fights in a row the odds are small that he will lose.
I stopped reading where you claim that Choi is an excellent striker. C'mon...all he has is reach and that's it. He was never even remotely successful in K-1. You can't compare him to Overeem. Choi lost pretty much the majority of his fights.
P.S - Overeem destroyed Mirko in K-1. It wasn't even close. Crocop had to fake an injury to stop the fight.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Overeem vs Fedor would be a great fight no doubt, but considering Sergie, Shogun and Werdum already beat Overeem I would have to give the edge to Fedor. I couldn't see any of the aformentioned fighters beating Fedor. I wouldnt be shocked if Overeem won though.
Overeem beat Sergie the first time but sergei dislocated his shoulder in the first 40 seconds. Look how far it was haning down after then fight when he walks back to the dressing room.
Where the hell is Sergei Kharatonov anyway? He is a top 5 HW when he is active IMO.
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Some of you guys need to put the crack pipe down.
Overeem is a one dimensonal striker with a suspect chin that is average on the ground at best.
An Overeem/Fedor fight would be very interesting and Overeem is a tough opponent, but I give him a 0% chance of winning.
He will get taken down, mounted and beaten to oblivion.
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Heres the deal. A lot of people JUST want to see Fedor lose. Thats why everytime a new fighter comes up, they say, "Fedor is gonna get his ass kicked !11!11!!!!"
Fedor DOESNT lose. He doesnt know how. He FINDS a way to win, everytime. And anyone that thinks hes gonna get dominated has something coming. Fedor is the complete deal, all around. Until someone comes along whos as well rounded and machine like as fedor, hes just gonna find a hole in there strategy, and hes gonna exploit it.
If they have any weakness whatsoever, Fedor is gonna find it and tear it open, along with their asshole. Thats just how he rolls.
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don frye is my new hero 8)
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lol...Don Frye is awesome, I met him at the Olympia and took a picture.
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If they have any weakness whatsoever, Fedor is gonna find it and tear it open, along with their asshole. Thats just how he rolls.
This is pretty true.
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I got to say...it pains me a lot to admit it...but I think that Overeem would destroy Fedor.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Fedor would never curl up in a ball and give his back. Just not in his blood. Rodgers name shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breathe as Fedor's. Nuff said!
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I dont think Overeem has the will to beat Fedor.
Fedor simply WILL not lose... He finds a way to win every time. He said in an interview somewhere, he looks at a fight like the man hes fighting is trying to take food from his family, or something like that.
Fedor will = unstoppable. The man does not know HOW to lose.
his mind is unbelievably tough, thats really what makes him so amazing. and not to mention he shows absolutely zero fear.
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Heres the deal. A lot of people JUST want to see Fedor lose. Thats why everytime a new fighter comes up, they say, "Fedor is gonna get his ass kicked !11!11!!!!"
Fedor DOESNT lose. He doesnt know how. He FINDS a way to win, everytime. And anyone that thinks hes gonna get dominated has something coming. Fedor is the complete deal, all around. Until someone comes along whos as well rounded and machine like as fedor, hes just gonna find a hole in there strategy, and hes gonna exploit it.
If they have any weakness whatsoever, Fedor is gonna find it and tear it open, along with their asshole. Thats just how he rolls.
You have obviously not read the post where I state that everyone has his limits including Emelianenko.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Some of you guys need to put the crack pipe down.
Overeem is a one dimensonal striker with a suspect chin that is average on the ground at best.
An Overeem/Fedor fight would be very interesting and Overeem is a tough opponent, but I give him a 0% chance of winning.
He will get taken down, mounted and beaten to oblivion.
He is hardly one dimensional, and very proficient on the ground and won ADCC Europe.
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don frye is my new hero 8)
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fo'sho 8), no matter black or white, a real man is a real man 8)
Wiggs ;D
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I got to say...it pains me a lot to admit it...but I think that Overeem would destroy Fedor.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
thats only the 40th time someone said that... really dont see any logic in that...
Overeen at least has some tools to win, i admit, but i dont see a real threat.
And he is a awesome striker, but just that
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ROFL @ this love story about sharing gum
the HEART shivering backround music is the iceing on the cake :D
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for the people that are saying overeem is one dimensional or only a striker....Are you guys aware he has 19 submission victories to his credit....
I don't think Overeem would beat fedor but...He has the best chance out of the current heavyweight fighters...
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MMAth never fails
What is MMAth? MMAth is the process of using a sequence of past mixed martial arts fight results that provide a logical and objective argument for predicting the result of a future mixed martial arts bout ::).
A basic MMAth equation:
Tito Ortiz beat Forrest Griffin who beat Shogun,
...therefore Tito Ortiz should beat Shogun ;)
Then what do rankings mean if fighting history means nothing? Why are fighters judged for their records and who they fought?
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Dude, I'm the World's greatest Fedor fan, but Overeem is just a monster. He is a Brock Lesnar who can actually kick and punch fast precise and hard.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
your not a fedor fan dummy,
overheem has lost 11 times.
fedor none.
whats the debate around here?
its like the same dummies saying mayweather is gonna lose.
then reality sets in after the fight.
wake the fuck up.
wake the fuck up.
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Would have been cool to see Jerome Le Banner in mma, dude was crazy.
edit: googled and found out he did try it. Hmm.
yes jerome did "try it"
and knocked many out, including don frye.
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your not a fedor fan dummy,
overheem has lost 11 times.
fedor none.
whats the debate around here?
its like the same dummies saying mayweather is gonna lose.
then reality sets in after the fight.
wake the fuck up.
wake the fuck up.
First of all, NOOB, talk respectfully to a senior member of the board. Secondly, yes, I am a Fedor fan and I have stated that Fedor has a good chance on the ground. The problem is that Overeem will keep the fight standing and he has the strength and takedown defenses to make it happen. Standing, Fedor has only a puncher's chance of defeating Overeem. Overeem is technically a superior striker with greater speed and precision, and unlike Emelienenko, he actually uses his legs to strike and not only his fists. Fedor has the power to knock him out, but it is extremely unlikely that a striker with the experience and skills of Overeem will let his guard down for Fedor to knock him out. If the fight stays up, Overeem will demolish Fedor or win the fight by points. If Fedor manages to take the fight to the ground, Overeem will be incredibly hard to submit. Fedor couldn't submit Rogers due to the latter's strength, then imagine how hard it will be to submit a guy who is even stronger than Rogers and who knows the ground game which Rogers doesen't. Yes, Overeem has been submitted by Werdum and such, but that was the old Overeem. The new Overeem has 40 lbs of muscle more and lots of experience on the ground. If the fight stays up, Fedor will get KOd or lose by points, and if it go to the ground, I give them equal odds in the fight.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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im the noob? right.
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im the noob? right.
Yes, you are the noob, Mr.double-digit post count and registered here in February of this year. You are also a noob in MMA, given your sophomoric knowledge and retarded arguments with no logic.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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my 60 posts contain more knowledge than your 6k posts of nonsense
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my 60 posts contain more knowledge than your 6k posts of nonsense
Ha ha ha ha...ok, kid. Let me tell you kid, if you keep the attitude you are going to get beat in this place. Getbiggers are not nice to newbies who just registered and talk shit to senior members. Just warning you.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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LOL @ Sucky playing the "senior member on the board"-card.
You can be the most knowledgeable person ever, being active in the sport for years, and then having 1 post on Getbig.
Postcount means nothing concerning knowledge, experience etc.
It's just a testament of the amount of free time.
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The thing about Fedor, is that he is a machine. He makes very little mistakes, he finds his opponents weakness' and exploits them. And he can take a hit. This makes him very very dangerous, to anyone.
He makes "little mistakes"? Have you seen any of his fights? He makes a lot of mistakes and often finds himself in trouble. Look at his most recent fight with a 2nd tier fighter Brett Rodgers. Brett did real damage to him Fedor. Overeem, on the other hand, destroyed Brett without so much as a scratch.
Guys that make few mistakes are fighters like GSP and Anderson. They dominate most of their fights and come out unscathed.
Fedor needs to get his ass in the UFC and fight some real opponents, instead of the hand fed cans he's been fighting over the last few years.
Let's see if he dodges Alistar now ::)
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Fedor needs to take the UFC HW approach and fake an illness! :-X
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Fedor needs to take the UFC HW approach and fake an illness! :-X
Looks like we will have on less worthless poster here any minute now ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Besides, Even if Brock was faking it, he's fighting Carwin anyways ::)
Not sure why you keep bringing this one up all the time.
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He makes "little mistakes"? Have you seen any of his fights? He makes a lot of mistakes and often finds himself in trouble. Look at his most recent fight with a 2nd tier fighter Brett Rodgers. Brett did real damage to him Fedor. Overeem, on the other hand, destroyed Brett without so much as a scratch.
Guys that make few mistakes are fighters like GSP and Anderson. They dominate most of their fights and come out unscathed.
Fedor needs to get his ass in the UFC and fight some real opponents, instead of the hand fed cans he's been fighting over the last few years.
Let's see if he dodges Alistar now ::)
Anderson and GSP? You do realize those 2 always have the size, height, and reach advantage in every fight right? They also cut mad weight to beat up smaller fighters while Fedor is 233lbs fighting 6'5" 280lb+ monsters with legit skills. I dont give a fuck if the bigger guys like Rogers and Arlovski arent as "skilled" as the smaller guys, bottom line is they hit 100X harder, so therefore theres a way higher risk of getting KTFO in violent fashion at HW fighting those kind of guys.
Theres a big difference in GSP throwing around little Dan Hardy for 5 rounds than a guy like Brett Rogers or Semmy Schilt (6'11"!!!) charging at you throwing fight ending bombs. Lets see how GSP does against guys with 50 or even 100lbs on him that hit hard enough to knock over a telephone poll.
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suckmymuscle
allistar-crocop wasnt k1, and mirko took 3 hard knees to the groin from overeem, like to see you fake that pain.
alistar's punches are very similar to choi's, precise striking, good reach but soft as a baby's ass, doesnt have a knock out punch. who did he knock out so far? can only recall badr hari (well known for his glass chin)
forget about it, fedor will most likely knock out overeem standing, alistar cant punch a hole in butter, you seen his punches against brett on the ground, no power at all, fedor puts guys to sleep, overeem not yet
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The guy with the monkey doing push ups in his avatar knows exactly what he's talking about.
The rest of you are going to be eating your words when Fedor beats Overeem by g+p TKO in the first round.
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Anderson and GSP? You do realize those 2 always have the size, height, and reach advantage in every fight right? They also cut mad weight to beat up smaller fighters while Fedor is 233lbs fighting 6'5" 280lb+ monsters with legit skills. I dont give a fuck if the bigger guys like Rogers and Arlovski arent as "skilled" as the smaller guys, bottom line is they hit 100X harder, so therefore theres a way higher risk of getting KTFO in violent fashion at HW fighting those kind of guys.
Theres a big difference in GSP throwing around little Dan Hardy for 5 rounds than a guy like Brett Rogers or Semmy Schilt (6'11"!!!) charging at you throwing fight ending bombs. Lets see how GSP does against guys with 50 or even 100lbs on him that hit hard enough to knock over a telephone poll.
Have you seen any of the interviews? Read any of the articles? I have news for you my friend. Hardy is a lot bigger than GSP. As was the Pitbull. And he pwned them both. Anserson has already fought at 205 twice and dominated both times. But, this whole size thing is irrelevant. If Fedor wants to be considered the best heavyweight, then he needs to fight heavyweights. If not, he could simply lose that unsightly gut and become a LHW ::)
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Don Frye helped me build that additon on my house and told me how to change the catalytic converter in my car.
Don Frye helped me file my taxes too.
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Have you seen any of the interviews? Read any of the articles? I have news for you my friend. Hardy is a lot bigger than GSP. As was the Pitbull. And he pwned them both. Anserson has already fought at 205 twice and dominated both times. But, this whole size thing is irrelevant. If Fedor wants to be considered the best heavyweight, then he needs to fight heavyweights. If not, he could simply lose that unsightly gut and become a LHW ::)
If he lost his gut, he might even make middleweight.
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Don Frye helped me build that additon on my house and told me how to change the catalytic converter in my car.
Don Frye helped me file my taxes too.
I call bullshit..Don Frye is to much a man to even think about putting a catalytic converter on a car... :)
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Have you seen any of the interviews? Read any of the articles? I have news for you my friend. Hardy is a lot bigger than GSP. As was the Pitbull. And he pwned them both. Anserson has already fought at 205 twice and dominated both times. But, this whole size thing is irrelevant. If Fedor wants to be considered the best heavyweight, then he needs to fight heavyweights. If not, he could simply lose that unsightly gut and become a LHW ::)
pwned both of them by taking them down and humping their leg for 5 rounds?? (so called 'active lay+pray') Cmon get real here Fedor knocks people the fuck out.
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pwned both of them by taking them down and humping their leg for 5 rounds?? (so called 'active lay+pray') Cmon get real here Fedor knocks people the fuck out.
Fedor fights people way below his 'supposed' talent level too....
Just to put things in perspective, Fedor struggled with Rodgers for a couple of rounds, and Overeem put him out in the beginning of the first round without there being a scratch on Overeem.
Arvloski was getting the better of Fedor until Arvloski made a mistake.
Bigfoot Silva just dominated Arvloski.
Case closed.
Fedor has been exposed.
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pwned both of them by taking them down and humping their leg for 5 rounds?? (so called 'active lay+pray') Cmon get real here Fedor knocks people the fuck out.
Wait, first address you original point that all the guys that GSP and Anderson fight are way smaller than them. As it turns out, you were wrong. You should admit when you are wrong. It gives you more credibility.
Now, as for "humping their legs for 5 rounds", you do know that GSP tore a groin muscle in the Thiago fight right? He still managed to totally dominate the much bigger opponent. And as for KOing people, you should watch more Anderson fights. It's a thing of beauty. And, both GSP & Anderson usually come out of fights unscathed.
The only reason Fedor wins with spectacular fashion, is that he is a good fighter who is going up against a bunch of cans. It's that simple.
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Fedor fights people way below his 'supposed' talent level too....
Just to put things in perspective, Fedor struggled with Rodgers for a couple of rounds, and Overeem put him out in the beginning of the first round without there being a scratch on Overeem.
Arvloski was getting the better of Fedor until Arvloski made a mistake.
Bigfoot Silva just dominated Arvloski.
Case closed.
Fedor has been exposed.
More MMA mathmatics at work here. X knocked Y out at the beginning of round 2, Z beat Y in round 1- therefore Z is much better than X and Y is overrrated. ::)
Why stop there? The guy who beat Cote a few weeks ago did so without going to a decision. Silva took Cote into the final round before he tripped over his own foot and tore his acl. As a result, Silva would lost to that other guy and Cote is a can.
Is that about right?
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What is Overeem's bodyweight?
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Fedor fights people way below his 'supposed' talent level too....
Just to put things in perspective, Fedor struggled with Rodgers for a couple of rounds, and Overeem put him out in the beginning of the first round without there being a scratch on Overeem.
Arvloski was getting the better of Fedor until Arvloski made a mistake.
Bigfoot Silva just dominated Arvloski.
Case closed.
Fedor has been exposed.
the fedor/rodgers fight didn't last a couple rounds ::)
mma math is for tuf noobs, which we all know is what you are
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the fedor/rodgers fight didn't last a couple rounds ::)
mma math is for tuf noobs, which we all know is what you are
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Go put in your ZUFFA OWNED PRIDE DVD's and calm down.
It didn't go two rounds? Hmmmmmm http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Brett-Rogers-16048 (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Brett-Rogers-16048)
Loss Fedor Emelianenko TKO (Punches) Strikeforce / M-1 Global - Fedor vs. Rogers 11/7/2009 2 1:48
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More MMA mathmatics at work here. X knocked Y out at the beginning of round 2, Z beat Y in round 1- therefore Z is much better than X and Y is overrrated. ::)
Why stop there? The guy who beat Cote a few weeks ago did so without going to a decision. Silva took Cote into the final round before he tripped over his own foot and tore his acl. As a result, Silva would lost to that other guy and Cote is a can.
Is that about right?
Cote had two knee surgeries after the Silva fight and this was his first fight back....no comparison and MMA math does not work in this instance ;D
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Fedor fights people way below his 'supposed' talent level too....
Just to put things in perspective, Fedor struggled with Rodgers for a couple of rounds, and Overeem put him out in the beginning of the first round without there being a scratch on Overeem.
Arvloski was getting the better of Fedor until Arvloski made a mistake.
Bigfoot Silva just dominated Arvloski.
Case closed.
Fedor has been exposed.
Mindspin, you do realize that Fedor plays possum with his opponents right?
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Mindspin, you do realize that Fedor plays possum with his opponents right?
Playing possum is different then getting you ass handed to you and having your face bloodied.
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Go put in your ZUFFA OWNED PRIDE DVD's and calm down.
It didn't go two rounds? Hmmmmmm http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Brett-Rogers-16048 (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Brett-Rogers-16048)
Loss Fedor Emelianenko TKO (Punches) Strikeforce / M-1 Global - Fedor vs. Rogers 11/7/2009 2 1:48
hahhahah!! gayboy Earl pwned again! Earl, you need to stick to stuff you know about like how many centimeters Leverone's butthole can dilate :D
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Go put in your ZUFFA OWNED PRIDE DVD's and calm down.
It didn't go two rounds? Hmmmmmm http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Brett-Rogers-16048 (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Brett-Rogers-16048)
Loss Fedor Emelianenko TKO (Punches) Strikeforce / M-1 Global - Fedor vs. Rogers 11/7/2009 2 1:48
I don't think of a minute or 2 into the second round as a "couple rounds"
with your "logic" maybe fujita should get a title shot since he came closer than anybody to beating fedor ::) ::) ::)
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hahhahah!! gayboy Earl pwned again! Earl, you need to stick to stuff you know about like how many centimeters Leverone's butthole can dilate :D
look above, i just owned your boyfriend yet again
and it takes a gay boy to even think of such a disgusting thought as a mans butthole dilating ???
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I don't think of a minute or 2 into the second round as a "couple rounds"
with your "logic" maybe fujita should get a title shot since he came closer than anybody to beating fedor ::) ::) ::)
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That is the best excuse you could come up with. Seriously?
The fight ended in the SECOND ROUND. That is undeniable.
I would have more respect for your postings if you just admitted you were wrong.
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That is the best excuse you could come up with. Seriously?
The fight ended in the SECOND ROUND. That is undeniable.
I would have more respect for your postings if you just admitted you were wrong.
you said a "couple rounds" like it was a long fight
nobody came closer to beating fedor than fujita, do you see how stupid it is to say rogers came close to beating fedor because he landed one punch on his nose and it went a "couple rounds" ::)
i would have more respect for you if you admitted to being a tuf noob and ufc guy :P
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the fedor/rodgers fight didn't last a couple rounds ::)
mma math is for tuf noobs, which we all know is what you are
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You said it....not me.
I let you slide on this one...it's so blatant it's not even worth arguing about.
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Fedor fights people way below his 'supposed' talent level too....
Just to put things in perspective, Fedor struggled with Rodgers for a couple of rounds, and Overeem put him out in the beginning of the first round without there being a scratch on Overeem.
Arvloski was getting the better of Fedor until Arvloski made a mistake.
Bigfoot Silva just dominated Arvloski.
Case closed.
Fedor has been exposed.
There is so much wrong with what you just said, its almost like your just fucking with me lol
Both AA and Rogers were KTFO by Fedor in their recent fights. That had a HUGE impact on their performances obviously. Also, your MMATH dont mean shit. Mixed martial arts in too unpredictable to look at it the way you are pal.
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There is so much wrong with what you just said, its almost like your just fucking with me lol
Both AA and Rogers were KTFO by Fedor in their recent fights. That had a HUGE impact on their performances obviously. Also, your MMATH dont mean shit. Mixed martial arts in too unpredictable to look at it the way you are pal.
I was being somewhat sarcastic in this post....just mimicking what I see on here often ;D
What I am saying overall, is that Fedor has been filling his resume with UFC rejects recently.
Pretty obvious when his next fight against Werdum is the toughest fight he has had in several years, and Werdum is barely ranked in the top 10.
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i'm not saying that werdum should be the number 1 contender but who deserves a shot more?
werdum's resume is far superior to any of your ufc fighters, what has brock or carwin done to prove to you that they are so vastly superior to everyone? i don't get it
werdum even has a win over overeem
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you said a "couple rounds" like it was a long fight
nobody came closer to beating fedor than fujita, do you see how stupid it is to say rogers came close to beating fedor because he landed one punch on his nose and it went a "couple rounds" ::)
i would have more respect for you if you admitted to being a tuf noob and ufc guy :P
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Did you even watch the Fedor and Bret fight? Bret was pounding Fedor over and over again in the face. Not a simple "one punch on his nose" as you put it.
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Did you even watch the Fedor and Bret fight? Bret was pounding Fedor over and over again in the face. Not a simple "one punch on his nose" as you put it.
the punch to the nose is the only that did any sort of damage
who got brutally knocked out?
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I was being somewhat sarcastic in this post....just mimicking what I see on here often ;D
What I am saying overall, is that Fedor has been filling his resume with UFC rejects recently.
Pretty obvious when his next fight against Werdum is the toughest fight he has had in several years, and Werdum is barely ranked in the top 10.
Whoops sorry bout that. Werdum beat Overeem btw, who everyone is claiming to be unstoppable lately.
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Whoops sorry bout that. Werdum beat Overeem btw, who everyone is claiming to be unstoppable lately.
do you think werdum beats Overeem today?
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Did you even watch the Fedor and Bret fight? Bret was pounding Fedor over and over again in the face. Not a simple "one punch on his nose" as you put it.
Here is what I saw: Fedor knocking out an opponent who is 5" taller and 40 lbs heavier than he is. People forget just how much bigger and stronger Rogers is than Fedor, which makes his victory over Rogers so impressive. Tell me what other fighter on the planet can knock out an opponent who is 40 lbs heavier than he is? No one but Emelianenko.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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do you think werdum beats Overeem today?
Probably not, but this IS mma so you really cant predict. If i had to guess though, Overeem by TKO R2. Whats your guess?
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Probably not, but this IS mma so you really cant predict. If i had to guess though, Overeem by TKO R2. Whats your guess?
Overeem...easily...Peopl e need to realize fighters evolve...some for the good some for the bad...Put it this way If the Overeem of today fought the Overeem of 4-5 years ago it would be a slaughter...so talking about who someone got beat by 5 years ago is a moot point...especially in this case...
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Overeem...easily...People need to realize fighters evolve...some for the good some for the bad...Put it this way If the Overeem of today fought the Overeem of 4-5 years ago it would be a slaughter...so talking about who someone got beat by 5 years ago is a moot point...especially in this case...
True, but it did still happen. Overeem was always a great fighter, but that dont mean shit without cardio which he now has. Even though hes a somewhat boring fighter Werdum is still lurking around the #10 spot in the top 10.
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Overeem...easily...People need to realize fighters evolve...some for the good some for the bad...Put it this way If the Overeem of today fought the Overeem of 4-5 years ago it would be a slaughter...so talking about who someone got beat by 5 years ago is a moot point...especially in this case...
True, but it did still happen. Overeem was always a great fighter, but that dont mean shit without cardio which he now has. Even though hes a somewhat boring fighter Werdum is still lurking around the #10 spot in the rankings.
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True, but it did still happen. Overeem was always a great fighter, but that dont mean shit without cardio which he now has. Even though hes a somewhat boring fighter Werdum is still lurking around the #10 spot in the rankings.
you can say that again ;D..
One of the main reasons his cardio was off is he is a 6'5'' behemoth that cut to 205 and did not allow himself to fill out his frame...since he decided to stay heavyweight and get as big and strong as possible he's on a 9 fight win streak and cardio is not an issue...
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you can say that again ;D..
One of the main reasons his cardio was off is he is a 6'5'' behemoth that cut to 205 and did not allow himself to fill out his frame...since he decided to stay heavyweight and get as big and strong as possible he's on a 9 fight win streak and cardio is not an issue...
The sky's the limit for him now, so we'll see what happens in the future.