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Candidate’s Words on Vietnam Service Differ From History
Edited on Mon May-17-10 10:06 PM by beachmom
Source: New York Times
At a ceremony honoring veterans and senior citizens who sent presents to soldiers overseas, Attorney General Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut rose and spoke of an earlier time in his life.
“We have learned something important since the days that I served in Vietnam,” Mr. Blumenthal said to the group gathered in Norwalk in March 2008. “And you exemplify it. Whatever we think about the war, whatever we call it — Afghanistan or Iraq — we owe our military men and women unconditional support.”
There was one problem: Mr. Blumenthal, a Democrat now running for the United States Senate, never served in Vietnam. He obtained at least five military deferments from 1965 to 1970 and took repeated steps that enabled him to avoid going to war, according to records.
The deferments allowed Mr. Blumenthal to complete his studies at Harvard; pursue a graduate fellowship in England; serve as a special assistant to The Washington Post’s publisher, Katharine Graham; and ultimately take a job in the Nixon White House.
Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/18/nyregion/18blumenthal...
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geez, that is absolutely baffling. is he senile? how can one just make that up?
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If Blumenthal goes down , Schiff should go independent.
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Candidate’s Words on Vietnam Service Differ From History
Edited on Mon May-17-10 10:06 PM by beachmom
Source: New York Times
At a ceremony honoring veterans and senior citizens who sent presents to soldiers overseas, Attorney General Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut rose and spoke of an earlier time in his life.
“We have learned something important since the days that I served in Vietnam,” Mr. Blumenthal said to the group gathered in Norwalk in March 2008. “And you exemplify it. Whatever we think about the war, whatever we call it — Afghanistan or Iraq — we owe our military men and women unconditional support.”
There was one problem: Mr. Blumenthal, a Democrat now running for the United States Senate, never served in Vietnam. He obtained at least five military deferments from 1965 to 1970 and took repeated steps that enabled him to avoid going to war, according to records.
The deferments allowed Mr. Blumenthal to complete his studies at Harvard; pursue a graduate fellowship in England; serve as a special assistant to The Washington Post’s publisher, Katharine Graham; and ultimately take a job in the Nixon White House.
Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/18/nyregion/18blumenthal...
A LOT of people pulled shit like this concerning service and the Vietnam War. A great book named "Stolen Valor" was written about pieces of shit that fake their Vietnam War service or say they saw/did things that they did not. Lots of stuff on this subject. My dad hates John Kerry because of this shit.
These people can rot in hell.
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Would you hit it back in the day? :D
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This is just fucking sad... Fuck him.
Lying about your service is just as low as you can get.
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I cannot stand this assmunch. Get him out of the state PLEASE
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It actually shows how sad most of politics is.These guys are insane.
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Good, another rat leftist pofs getting his commie ass kicked.
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It actually shows how sad most of politics is.These guys are insane.
And how fucking disgusting most of the "ivy leaguers" are.
We need normal regular people, not these psychos.
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Damn. Opens the door for Schiff should he decide he wants to campaign outside of Greenwich. :-X
And how fucking disgusting most of the "ivy leaguers" are.
We need normal regular people, not these psychos.
Most ivy leaguers are normal people like the rest of us. Not only that, there are multiple universities (including state schools) that are on par with the ivy leagues now.
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I'm sick of the Bushes, Kerry's, Spitzers, Clinton's, Obamas, etc.
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Damn. Opens the door for Schiff should he decide he wants to campaign outside of Greenwich. :-X
Most ivy leaguers are normal people like the rest of us. Not only that, there are multiple universities (including state schools) that are on par with the ivy leagues now.
I dont believe most Ivy leaguers are like the rest of us.Most have never worked a day in their life.They dont understand what it is to decide between paying the months rent or the months car payment.Most have never had to make a pay roll.They have lived a life of luxury and wouldnt understand the first thing how most of us live.
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I dont believe most Ivy leaguers are like the rest of us.Most have never worked a day in their life.They dont understand what it is to decide between paying the months rent or the months car payment.Most have never had to make a pay roll.They have lived a life of luxury and wouldnt understand the first thing how most of us live.
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A retard as always, Billy.
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hhhahaha this senator is so screwed lol...
how do you make something like that up?
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Beck and Rush are blasting this.
This guy sounds like Mons.
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hhhahaha this senator is so screwed lol...
how do you make something like that up?
Interestingly enough is the fact it took this long to come up. This guy has been CT's Attorney General for as long as I can remember.
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Tar and feather that fool. >:(
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Candidate’s Words on Vietnam Service Differ From History
Edited on Mon May-17-10 10:06 PM by beachmom
Source: New York Times
At a ceremony honoring veterans and senior citizens who sent presents to soldiers overseas, Attorney General Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut rose and spoke of an earlier time in his life.
“We have learned something important since the days that I served in Vietnam,” Mr. Blumenthal said to the group gathered in Norwalk in March 2008. “And you exemplify it. Whatever we think about the war, whatever we call it — Afghanistan or Iraq — we owe our military men and women unconditional support.”
There was one problem: Mr. Blumenthal, a Democrat now running for the United States Senate, never served in Vietnam. He obtained at least five military deferments from 1965 to 1970 and took repeated steps that enabled him to avoid going to war, according to records.
The deferments allowed Mr. Blumenthal to complete his studies at Harvard; pursue a graduate fellowship in England; serve as a special assistant to The Washington Post’s publisher, Katharine Graham; and ultimately take a job in the Nixon White House.
Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/18/nyregion/18blumenthal...
Chickenshit scumbag.
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With such a distinguished military combat record as yourself, I'm sure you are especially pissed off no?
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how do you make something like that up?
I say the same thing about 9-11 conspiracy theories.
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oh god fuck nut is on tv responding to questions. Fucking douchebag. I hate this state
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oh god fuck nut is on tv responding to questions. Fucking douchebag. I hate this state
I agree. He was "unaware" he had made "misplaced words"? He "misspoke"? What the heck does that mean?
He flat out lied about serving in a war. Utterly disgraceful.
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Just watched his press conference. Says he meant "during" Vietnam, not "in" Vietnam and he just misspoke.
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Just watched his press conference. Says he meant "during" Vietnam, not "in" Vietnam and he just misspoke.
I have a 12 inch penis...oh I meant I wish I had a 12 inch penis.Yep,simple mistake.
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"On a few occasions I have misspoken about my service and I regret that and I take full responsibility," Blumenthal said while surrounded by Vietnam veterans at a news conference in West Hartford. "But I will not allow anyone to take a few misplaced words and impugn my record of service to our country.
"I served in the United States Marines Corps Reserve and I am proud of it," he said. Any mischaracterization was "absolutely unintentional."
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DONEZO!
SCHIFF 2010!
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Good commentary from a guy who actually served in Vietnam.
Another Lie About Military Service
By Jerry Coffee
Wednesday - May 26, 2010
“On a few occasions I have misspoken about my (military) service, and I regret that. I will not allow anyone to take a few misplaced words and impugn my record of service to my country. I served in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve and am proud of it.”
So announced Connecticut Attorney General Dick Blumenthal, who is running for the U.S. Senate, to a VFW audience during a campaign speech. He was responding to a New York Times article accusing him of lying about his “Vietnam” service.
Which he did! And he apparently made no effort to correct several published articles that also lauded his “Vietnam” service.
He also implied as much when he said “When we came home from Vietnam ... the indignities we faced upon return ...”
To be fair, he did occasionally say he served during the Vietnam war, but more often he seemed very comfortable having friends, acquaintances, media and voters believe he was a Vietnam veteran who had actually served “in country.”
The first thing that occurred to me was how easily we tolerate the replacement of the word “lie” with “misspeak” or “a few misplaced words” nowadays and it seems to not even register with many listeners that the person is talking about lying.
After a string of deferments from 1965 to 1970 ran out (they had allowed Blumenthal to complete his Harvard education, a graduate fellowship in England, a job as Katherine Graham’s assistant at the Washington Post and a stint in the Nixon White House) he joined the Marine Corps Reserve. That - after six months of basic training at Paris Island - kept him in Washington, D.C., “attending drills, fixing up public campgrounds and working with the Marine Corps charity, Toys for Tots.”
OK, some Marines may have had to do that, but it was a far cry from his “time as a Marine sergeant in Vietnam,” of which he would speak.
The interesting thing about Blumenthal’s story is he was hardly the Lone Ranger. In the troubled wake of the Vietnam war, thousands of wannabes, like many middle-aged guys who have approached me after speaking from my own Vietnam experience, have come to consider that war as the defining event of their generation. It’s as if they missed the granddaddy rite of passage from boyhood to manhood. If they missed serving, for whatever reason - self-contrived or simply luck of the draw - they have expressed guilt, shame, envy or provided some rationalization. Many have said they’d enlist and try to go to Vietnam if they could have a do-over.
Actually, the poster boy for this syndrome is Darrow “Duke” Tully, once publisher of the Arizona Republic and Phoenix Gazette newspapers and an avid McCain supporter. He was known to be a well-connected social elite who traveled in the poshest circles wearing his military officer’s finery replete with prestigious ribbons and medals attesting to his combat valor (in Korea and Vietnam).
He was a complete fraud.
In their award-winning book Stolen Valor: How the Vietnam Generation Was Robbed of Their Heroes and History, BG Burkett and Glenna Whitley document hundreds of Vietnam vets, Vietnam POWs and even Medal of Honor wannabes - some opportunists, some kooks, some motivated as I described above, but all frauds. As often as not, although apparently not the case with Blumenthal, these made-up military autobiographies include some of our nation’s highest military decorations, including the Medal of Honor. The book also exposes the many media myths about Vietnam vets as disillusioned, depressed, suicidal, druggedout, alcoholic misfits.
Drawing from the lessons of this book, Congress passed and President George W. Bush signed into law the “Stolen Honor Act of 2005,” which makes it a crime to wear or claim unauthorized awards. As a federal misdemeanor, the law carries a punishment of up to a year in prison and a nominal fine.
One wonders if the “I mis-spoke” or the “a few misplaced words” defense would hold any water.
http://www.midweek.com/content/columns/coffeebreak_article/another_lie_about_military_service/
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If this guy truly only mispoke a few times out of hundreds then I can give him the benefit of the doubt. It's not like he made blatantly false claims multiple times in various forms of media (spoken, written, web site, etc..).
Nope - for that kind of blatant and repeated lying we need to look at a Republican such as Mark Kirk. This guy just made up a fake award and repeated it in multiple forms of media and many different occassions. How do you get that wrong by accident. He also lied about serving in Operation Iraqi Freedom. I guess if being a politician means you need the balls to make BIG LIES then this guy is qualified at least in that regard:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#37459210
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If this guy truly only mispoke a few times out of hundreds then I can give him the benefit of the doubt. It's not like he made blatantly false claims multiple times in various forms of media (spoken, written, web site, etc..).
Nope - for that kind of blatant and repeated lying we need to look at a Republican such as Mark Kirk. This guy just made up a fake award and repeated it in multiple forms of media and many different occassions. How do you get that wrong by accident. He also lied about serving in Operation Iraqi Freedom. I guess if being a politician means you need the balls to make BIG LIES then this guy is qualified at least in that regard:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#37459210
They all really suck. RINO's, DINO's, RATS, all of them.
I'm so sick of these phonies. Get people from idustry, business, etc to take these jobs for one term a piece or something, this is really sick.
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I thought blumenthal said it 3 times. Then never put out a correction.
To me, that's not somethign you accidentally claim. If you do, then you immediately stop yourself and clarify.
And if he said it on the mic 3 times that they found... then he probably said it a hundred times to smaller groups that never ended up on videotape.
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He didn't misspeak. He lied.