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Title: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: Dos Equis on May 18, 2010, 09:39:46 AM
Surprising. 

Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Monday, 17 May 2010
   
President Obama's job performance passed 50 percent for the first time since February, according to a new Zogby Interactive survey.

The results of the survey, taken Friday through Monday, chronicled Obama’s three-point rise in a week.

Meanwhile, on the eve of crucial state primaries in Pennsylvania, Arkansas, and Kentucky, the poll found likely voters still deadlocked when it comes to generic congressional candidates.

The Zogby Interactive survey of 2,063 likely voters nationwide also discovered that, although the president may be headed into positive approval territory, 52 percent of likely voters still believe the nation is on the wrong track. Forty percent said it’s headed in the right direction.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Obama-approval-Zogby-elections/2010/05/17/id/359292
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: 240 is Back on May 18, 2010, 10:04:57 AM
nah, people aren't pissed off about healthcare as much anymore.

obama's been attacking bankers - popular move.

many top repubs are admitting stim bill worked.

230,000 new pvt sector jobs last month.
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 18, 2010, 10:14:32 AM
240 - do you believe that or did MSNBC tell you that rubbish? 
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: kcballer on May 18, 2010, 10:20:09 AM
Popularity and polls are fleeting.  People don't know what they like and/or want most of the time.  You have environmentalists driving SUVs and flying private jets, medicare recipeiants complaining about 'socialism' when they use and are a part of a very socialist program, pro-lifers supporting the death penalty i mean who knows what anyone wants in this country?  America is contradiction.  That would be the one word i would use to sum up America to anyone.  Contradiction.
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 18, 2010, 10:21:39 AM
Sort of like MO complaining about obsity when most of the top people in the govt are slobs?
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: BM OUT on May 18, 2010, 10:29:14 AM
nah, people aren't pissed off about healthcare as much anymore.

obama's been attacking bankers - popular move.

many top repubs are admitting stim bill worked.

230,000 new pvt sector jobs last month.

NOT ONE republican is admitting stimulus bill worked.NOT ONE!!Unless its those two nit wits from Maine.People arent pissed off about health care anymore.Since it has passed the people calling for repeal has INCREASED!!!Not decreased.UE is at 9.9%.

Whites will not admit they hate Obama for fear of being called a racist.Pure and simple.Lets see how popular he is in Nov.Notice NO POLITICIAN wants him in his district to campaign.They know the deal.
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 18, 2010, 10:30:12 AM
Not me - I hate Obama more than any other political figure in my lifetime.  He is a dirtbag lying pofs communist. 
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: Hugo Chavez on May 18, 2010, 11:14:43 AM
3333 finds out Obama's approval rating hits 60%

Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 18, 2010, 11:20:33 AM
True.  Any country where 60% approve of this communist NWO psycho is truly on the road to disaster. 
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: tonymctones on May 18, 2010, 11:28:34 AM
nah, people aren't pissed off about healthcare as much anymore.

obama's been attacking bankers - popular move.

many top repubs are admitting stim bill worked.

230,000 new pvt sector jobs last month.
I thought they were saying that tarp worked not the stimulus bill, please link your source...
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: Dos Equis on May 18, 2010, 11:34:04 AM
Popularity and polls are fleeting.  People don't know what they like and/or want most of the time.  You have environmentalists driving SUVs and flying private jets, medicare recipeiants complaining about 'socialism' when they use and are a part of a very socialist program, pro-lifers supporting the death penalty i mean who knows what anyone wants in this country?  America is contradiction.  That would be the one word i would use to sum up America to anyone.  Contradiction.

I'd use the word "great."  I'd use the phrase "greatest country in the history of mankind." 

The majority of the people in this country work hard, obey the law, help others, love their God, love their guns, etc. 

But regarding the poll, it does surprise me that Obama is at 50 percent.  I expect him to stay below 50 percent for the remainder of his one and only term.  He has lost the independents and Republicans who put him in office.  I doubt the gets those people back. 
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: kcballer on May 18, 2010, 11:47:08 AM
Do you love your guns? god? government?

Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 18, 2010, 11:51:54 AM
I never liked MM for some reason. 
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: loco on May 18, 2010, 12:12:28 PM
Popularity and polls are fleeting.  People don't know what they like and/or want most of the time.  You have environmentalists driving SUVs and flying private jets, medicare recipeiants complaining about 'socialism' when they use and are a part of a very socialist program, pro-lifers supporting the death penalty i mean who knows what anyone wants in this country?  America is contradiction.  That would be the one word i would use to sum up America to anyone.  Contradiction.

That's because pro-life and pro-choice are misleading terms used by the media and by manipulators on both sides of the issue.  It's anti-abortion and pro-abortion.  It has nothing to do with the death penalty for murderers.
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: MCWAY on May 18, 2010, 12:15:03 PM
That's because pro-life and pro-choice are misleading terms used by the media and by manipulators on both sides of the issue.  It's anti-abortion and pro-abortion.  It has nothing to do with the death penalty for murderers.

There you have it!!!
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: kcballer on May 18, 2010, 01:10:17 PM
That's because pro-life and pro-choice are misleading terms used by the media and by manipulators on both sides of the issue.  It's anti-abortion and pro-abortion.  It has nothing to do with the death penalty for murderers.

Keep telling yourself that  ::) 
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: MCWAY on May 18, 2010, 01:19:40 PM
Keep telling yourself that  ::) 

Life for unborn babies; DEATH for terrorists, first-degree murderers, and (prior to the Supreme Court's ruling) child rapists!!

What's the issue with that (Hardly hypocritical)?
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: tonymctones on May 18, 2010, 01:23:25 PM
exactly pro lifers are more so pro accountability...if you have consentual sex then you should live with the consequences...if you kill someone you should live with the consequences...
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: 12secGT on May 18, 2010, 01:24:22 PM
Surprising. 

Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Monday, 17 May 2010
   
President Obama's job performance passed 50 percent for the first time since February, according to a new Zogby Interactive survey.

The results of the survey, taken Friday through Monday, chronicled Obama’s three-point rise in a week.

Meanwhile, on the eve of crucial state primaries in Pennsylvania, Arkansas, and Kentucky, the poll found likely voters still deadlocked when it comes to generic congressional candidates.

The Zogby Interactive survey of 2,063 likely voters nationwide also discovered that, although the president may be headed into positive approval territory, 52 percent of likely voters still believe the nation is on the wrong track. Forty percent said it’s headed in the right direction.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Obama-approval-Zogby-elections/2010/05/17/id/359292
Ok great 50%. THE MAN FELL FROM 70% 70%!!!!! Please. Talk about finding a silver lining..
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: kcballer on May 18, 2010, 01:27:10 PM
I never liked MM for some reason. 

Shame.
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 18, 2010, 01:29:51 PM
Shame.

 KC, I'm stuck in the 80's.   ;D

Dio
Metallica
Ozzy
SOD
Suicidal Tendencies
Slayer
Maiden
Ice T
BDP
PE


Etc. 

Megadeth
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: loco on May 18, 2010, 03:42:05 PM
KC, I'm stuck in the 80's.   ;D

Dio
Metallica
Ozzy
SOD
Suicidal Tendencies
Slayer
Maiden
Ice T
BDP
PE


Etc.  

Megadeth

Dio died yesterday.  RIP!   :'(
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: 240 is Back on May 18, 2010, 03:44:18 PM
"NOT ONE republican is admitting stimulus bill worked.NOT ONE!!'


Rep. Boehner Admits Stimulus "Will Create Much-Needed Jobs"

Sen Bennett and Sen Lamar alexander admitted a few days ago that it is working.

Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: Danny on May 18, 2010, 03:51:01 PM
"NOT ONE republican is admitting stimulus bill worked.NOT ONE!!'


Rep. Boehner Admits Stimulus "Will Create Much-Needed Jobs"

Sen Bennett and Sen Lamar alexander admitted a few days ago that it is working.



Perhaps the most fascinating political conundrum of the 2010 election is one faced by GOP senators, almost all of whom voted for TARP and supported some of the other bailouts in the thick of the financial crisis. The good news is that, for all their shortcomings, the bailouts did the trick, preventing a deeper economic crisis. The bad news is those bailouts are now considered political poison by the tea partying conservative base.

That puts Republicans in a strange position: unable to say the legislation failed, but at pains to distance themselves from their vote nonetheless. Over the past couple days, I've asked a number of GOP senators whether, nearly two years later, they think the bailout bill was effective. Their answers were revealing.

Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH), who's retiring at the end of the year and is therefore unencumbered by the need to defend himself from the GOP base, has nothing to run away from.

"It was extremely effective," Gregg told me. "Not only was it effective and stabilized the financial industry, it also returned to the taxpayers almost $20 billion in interest and dividends that they would have otherwise not have."

Compare that to John McCain, who will face a primary of his own this summer. He says he and the rest of the country were lied to.

"It's not been effective because they deceived the American people," McCain said. "They said it would go to address the housing issue instead they gave it to the financial institutions. It's been well documented that it was sold to the American people as going to address what caused the crisis--that was the housing market--we gave $10 billion to Goldman Sachs. Goldman Sachs doesn't have anything to do with the housing market.... They lied to the American people."

Who lied, exactly?

"The former administration," McCain said. "Paulson and all of them...Geithner, whoever else was in charge. Primarily it was Paulson."

Of course, by late September 2008, everyone was calling the TARP legislation "the bailout bill" and McCain himself referred to it as a "financial rescue."

Other Republicans aren't so conspiratorial, though. Regrettable as the circumstances were, bailing out the financial sector was ineluctable--"a necessary evil," according to NRSC Chairman John Cornyn.

"We were all told by Ben Bernanke and Hank Paulson that the financial system would collapse," Cornyn said. "What I'm so upset about is that the previous administration and this administration have used the TARP for purposes never contemplated by Congress."

Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) had a similar take. The bill was necessary, and indeed effective, but the executive branch abused it and we'd all be better off if the entire episode--from the collapse of the economy to the ensuing political fallout--had never happened.

"I can explain it," Alexander said. "I wish we didn't have to deal with it."

And they really don't want to deal with it, politically. After primary voters in Utah ousted Sen. Bob Bennett (R) this past weekend, likely ending his career, Republicans in Washington did whatever they could not to find meaning in it. Though reports overwhelmingly indicate that it was Bennett's positions on a handful of issues--particularly the bailout--that cost him the election, his colleagues on the Hill have been wishfully pretending otherwise. At the very least, they've been trying to beat back the obvious conclusion that the GOP base has gone so far off the deep end that even a truly conservative senator like Bennett can get scalped.

With his fate is written in stone, Bennett says he'd do it all over again, even if he knew it would cost him his career. He just wishes he got more of a fair shake.

"There was a widespread misinterpretation, because I voted for the first tranche of TARP, the assumption was that I voted for the second tranche of TARP and the stimulus package and the auto bailout and the omnibus bill, none of which was true," Bennett told me. "They put it all together with a lot of help and encouragement from the Club for Growth."

The Republicans I spoke with said it's simply a matter of communicating with voters, and explaining the nuances.

"If you can get above all the hyperbolization and misrepresentation and get the facts out, I think you can be very effective," Gregg said.

Cornyn--whose job it is to protect Republican senators from political backlash--had a similar take. "The facts are what they are, I think it depends on the ability of each person to articulate the rationale for their vote."

For that to work, though, Republicans will need their voters to be willing to listen. For the time being, they're not.

"It was not hard at all if I could get the voters to listen," Bennett said. "My challenge was that the delegates chosen at the precinct caucuses would not come to my meetings to give me an opportunity to explain."


 ;)
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 18, 2010, 03:53:53 PM
240 we are one month away from you admitting I was right on the stim bill.
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: 240 is Back on May 18, 2010, 03:55:11 PM
Billy, what do you think of repub senators like Bennet, Alexander and Gregg who think ths Stim Bill worked?
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: 240 is Back on May 18, 2010, 03:56:43 PM
1 month to go :)
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 18, 2010, 03:59:06 PM
And in one mointh every left wing mporon on this site will bow to me.
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: tonymctones on May 18, 2010, 04:08:01 PM
And in one mointh every left wing mporon on this site will bow to me.
LOL BRO what part of 240s silverlining and knee padding ways do you think will allow him to admit that?

he will say it created so many jobs, saved so many jobs and draw a moral equivilant to a conservative legislation and ask if you think that was a failure...

dont count on 240
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: Dos Equis on May 18, 2010, 04:10:22 PM

Sen Bennett and Sen Lamar alexander admitted a few days ago that it is working.



No they didn't.  They were talking about the Bush bailout. 
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: 240 is Back on May 18, 2010, 04:16:06 PM
ok 33 and tony,

why do you think obama's approval rating is rising?

no insults - just give your analysis.  Why?
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 18, 2010, 05:28:19 PM
When gallup rcp and ras show the same thing we will talk.
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: 240 is Back on May 18, 2010, 07:11:06 PM
shit, i thought everyone here predicted obama would drop after healthcare. 

He has been between 46% and 51% on Gallup.  Before obamacare.  After obamacare.

Why no 10 point drop as yall predicted?
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: BM OUT on May 19, 2010, 07:22:59 AM
Billy, what do you think of repub senators like Bennet, Alexander and Gregg who think ths Stim Bill worked?

NOT ONE OF THEM HAVE SAID THAT!!!Why do you lie?They said TARP worked.Once again,TARP and the stimulus are two different things!!!!
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 19, 2010, 07:25:41 AM
240 - Cant help himself anymore.  He is so up obama's ass its not even funny. 

He also is gearing up for the spin next month when he has to acknowledge that i was 10000% correct and he was dead wrong on the stim bill. 
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: James on May 19, 2010, 08:52:21 AM
-19%

(http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/obama_index_graphics/may_2010/obama_approval_index_may_19_2010/314518-1-eng-US/obama_approval_index_may_19_2010.jpg)

(http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/obama_total_approval_graphics/may_2010/obama_total_approval_may_19_2010/314521-1-eng-US/obama_total_approval_may_19_2010.jpg)


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Title: Re: Zogby: Obama Approval Improves
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 19, 2010, 09:03:49 AM
Anyone who goes to work for a living cannot possibly still support this reckless maniac.