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Found out my nephew has signed up for Karate. My brother says he wants his kid to toughen up and handle himself in school. Now mind you he is only 7 years old. I personally think Karate and TKD is no better than ballet. It is all choreographed fighting. I was telling him if he wants to have practical fighting skills that he can use to mess up bullies at school that he should take Jujitsu.
What do you guys think is the best thing to get him started in?
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Wrestling and boxing. Wrestling will teach you how to avoid being taken down, which is the last place you wanna be if there is more than one attacker. Boxing will help you KO your opponents.
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This is a 50+ page thread potential.
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Cue all the Getbig badasses chiming in with their expert opinions just because they've sat in their armchairs watching a few rounds of UFC. ::)
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Thai Boxing
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in general anybody with even a small amount of training is going to whoop the ass of most ppl who dont. Whatever the discipline it needs to be geared toward real life, training for competitions is a good way of taking that route. Ppl in real life arent going to attack you like ppl do in karate especially the kata form of it. Which is where competition can fill in a little bit in relation to real life and how the skills you learn apply.
Fights in real life are brawls not sparring confined by rules...
most martial arts are going to be very choreographed when you first start off b/c you have to learn the technique. The more proficient you get at it the more you understand how techniques could be applied to real life.
Jujitsu is good I think judo is better for general self defense, judo focuses more on throws and take downs than jujitsu although jujitsu has a much better advantage on the ground a good judo player is going to dominate a good jujitsu player standing and if you throw someone who doesnt know how to fall they probably arent getting up.
If he is adament about striking Id go with boxing to be honest its the most similiar to an actual street fight.
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Wrestling and boxing. Wrestling will teach you how to avoid being taken down, which is the last place you wanna be if there is more than one attacker. Boxing will help you KO your opponents.
wrestling is another good one, if his school has a wrestling program get his ass in that...
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Definitly kiai, watch how useful it is here against an MMA fighter
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Found out my nephew has signed up for Karate. My brother says he wants his kid to toughen up and handle himself in school. Now mind you he is only 7 years old. I personally think Karate and TKD is no better than ballet. It is all choreographed fighting. I was telling him if he wants to have practical fighting skills that he can use to mess up bullies at school that he should take Jujitsu.
What do you guys think is the best thing to get him started in?
Been doing Aikido for 8 years. I would highly recommend it. It teaches you how to defend yourself against multiple attacks at a time. It is ENTIRELY defensive. If you want a cool offensive art, I would recommend Wing Chung (Kung Fu).. Ninjitsu is also a deadly art.
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Boxing is cool, problem is you can find a karate place in every strip mall and most martial arts places are a few miles to get to. Boxing clubs on the other hand are minimal. The closest one is probably 30 minutes away. It's tough to do after work.
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Thai Boxing
Thai Boxing would be my second choice for striking next to boxing. Possibley my first choice if I lived in a warm climate and could wear shorts. But here in Canada my clothing would usually restrict or greatly inhibit my ability to throw a knee so I would just stick to punching and sprawling. If it was one on one and he was getting the better of my I would take him down and pound him out Coleman style.
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Boxing is cool, problem is you can find a karate place in every strip mall and most martial arts places are a few miles to get to. Boxing clubs on the other hand are minimal. The closest one is probably 30 minutes away. It's tough to do after work.
There is also Jeet Jun Do, which is another form of Kung Fu and then there's Mu Tai. I go to many MMA and UFC competitions and expos and some of these Mu Tai guys can knee your head right off your body.
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Boxing is cool, problem is you can find a karate place in every strip mall and most martial arts places are a few miles to get to. Boxing clubs on the other hand are minimal. The closest one is probably 30 minutes away. It's tough to do after work.
well like I said in general somebody with a little training in how to handle themselves is going to kick the shit out of the majority of ppl who dont have any training.
so i wouldnt just throw karate out the window but its not the ideal discipline imho
it would however give him some confidence which goes a long way with not being bullied...
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krav maga
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krav maga
Ive never seen this or known anyone who has practiced this but ive heard good things, this is probably even more scarce though as far as gyms go
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Gun Fu, or teach him the deadly art of being funny and cool. It kills them everytime. BTW, what happened that dude says his kid needs to "toughen up"? Some bully(ies) at school that got to him? Is he "sensitive"? Shy? Well, chances are sports would be best for him. Be good in sports, and self esteem rises and chance of him being bullied lowers...also, few dudes will mess with him at all in the future.
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Gun Fu, or teach him the deadly art of being funny and cool. It kills them everytime. BTW, what happened that dude says his kid needs to "toughen up"? Some bully(ies) at school that got to him? Is he "sensitive"? Shy? Well, chances are sports would be best for him. Be good in sports, and self esteem rises and chance of him being bullied lowers...also, few dudes will mess with him at all in the future.
He's just being cautious. The kid is very timid, but well liked. My Bro and I grew up in shitty areas where we had to fight all of the time, now he has money and lives in suburbia where the only threat is boredom.
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He's just being cautious. The kid is very timid, but well liked. My Bro and I grew up in shitty areas where we had to fight all of the time, now he has money and lives in suburbia where the only threat is boredom.
If he is timid and well liked, I Think sports might be better. No one knows how to handle a situation unless it happens. Hd could take lessons and cave like Flex Wheeler did in fights as a youth. He could go in for lessons and get handled by a girl---and that always blows. Or as the saying goes, those who are bullied become the bully.
Don't know you or your bro so I can only give those examples. If the kid likes the martial arts then go with it, if he hates it, it will show. Team sports as I said is probably the best way to go. You have the comraderie, the learning, the attention (and the pressure) and both dad and son can follow the college and pro level together.
Then there is always model rockets---the kid who knows how to build bombs and rockets, everybody fears.
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If he is timid and well liked, I Think sports might be better. No one knows how to handle a situation unless it happens. Hd could take lessons and cave like Flex Wheeler did in fights as a youth. He could go in for lessons and get handled by a girl---and that always blows. Or as the saying goes, those who are bullied become the bully.
Don't know you or your bro so I can only give those examples. If the kid likes the martial arts then go with it, if he hates it, it will show. Team sports as I said is probably the best way to go. You have the comraderie, the learning, the attention (and the pressure) and both dad and son can follow the college and pro level together.
Then there is always model rockets---the kid who knows how to build bombs and rockets, everybody fears.
LMFAO yes please MOS get your nephew into model rockets and keep us apprised of his social progress
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Found out my nephew has signed up for Karate. My brother says he wants his kid to toughen up and handle himself in school. Now mind you he is only 7 years old. I personally think Karate and TKD is no better than ballet. It is all choreographed fighting. I was telling him if he wants to have practical fighting skills that he can use to mess up bullies at school that he should take Jujitsu.
What do you guys think is the best thing to get him started in?
In my opinion ANY legit thing that helps a kid develop confidence, discipline and some actual athletic fighting skill and is great.
As an adult I practice the art of 38 calliber for my self def.
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LMFAO yes please MOS get your nephew into model rockets and keep us apprised of his social progress
You do know I was being sarcastic.
Model rockets only insures that he will be picked on, then going on to build bombs...or a 800k job at NASA :-\
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You do know I was being sarcastic.
Model rockets only insures that he will be picked on, then going on to build bombs...or a 800k job at NASA :-\
oh ya I know, I just thought it was hillarious
Id like to hear exploits of shooting rockets at kids and modifying fireworks...;D
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In my opinion ANY legit thing that helps a kid develop confidence, discipline and some actual athletic fighting skill and is great.
As an adult I practice the art of 38 calliber for my self def.
you carry a gun on the streets?
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BJJ and boxing.....
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krav maga
^ this
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Just let him become an alter boy or a boy scout.
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Boxing is cool, problem is you can find a karate place in every strip mall and most martial arts places are a few miles to get to. Boxing clubs on the other hand are minimal. The closest one is probably 30 minutes away. It's tough to do after work.
If hes 7 yr old then wrestling for sure, if he wants to continue when older then Boxing and valetudo and he will become one badass kid lol
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Not boxing, according to guys like "showstoppa" its a pussy sport where you hit each other with pillows, yet he wont go to a boxing club and tell them that!
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Muay Thai or Hapkido.
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Assuming that you don't always meet the mike tysons, fedors and chuck norrises in the streets, Boxing should be enough. And i don't mean being a "weekend warrior", i mean training seriously 4 times a week.
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Rex Kwon Do.
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Found out my nephew has signed up for Karate. My brother says he wants his kid to toughen up and handle himself in school. Now mind you he is only 7 years old. I personally think Karate and TKD is no better than ballet. It is all choreographed fighting. I was telling him if he wants to have practical fighting skills that he can use to mess up bullies at school that he should take Jujitsu.
What do you guys think is the best thing to get him started in?
Vee-Arnis-Jitsu
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turkish oil wrestling for sure
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Judo,
Widely taught,
Realistic in using clothing/jacket to aid in throws.
BJJ is better for shirtless fights where you don't have clothing to grab - MMA competition
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Found out my nephew has signed up for Karate. My brother says he wants his kid to toughen up and handle himself in school. Now mind you he is only 7 years old. I personally think Karate and TKD is no better than ballet. It is all choreographed fighting. I was telling him if he wants to have practical fighting skills that he can use to mess up bullies at school that he should take Jujitsu.
What do you guys think is the best thing to get him started in?
teach him how to use a gun usually stops any disagreement.
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Been doing Aikido for 8 years. I would highly recommend it. It teaches you how to defend yourself against multiple attacks at a time. It is ENTIRELY defensive. If you want a cool offensive art, I would recommend Wing Chung (Kung Fu).. Ninjitsu is also a deadly art.
Entirely defensive = getting your ass handed to you. And if you want to see how great wing chun is, watch the fight between the two "masters" Emin Botepe and the other guy. It looks like two school kids rolling around. Ninjitsu?!?!?! Are you fucking serious?
The people that said wrestling, boxing, BJJ or judo are dead on.
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krav maga
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Judo,
Widely taught,
Realistic in using clothing/jacket to aid in throws.
BJJ is better for shirtless fights where you don't have clothing to grab - MMA competition
BJJ traditionally is taught with a gi but many do train shirtless these days...
like I said look at that pic and imagine thats concrete or even grass for that matter the average person isnt getting up after that...more than likely a person who doesnt know how to fall is going to break something an arm, collar bone, ankle....I would still recommend some type of striking tothough to help him close the gap without getting his head knocked off
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1. tyson n kimbo have already showed you how boxing skills match up against the avg street thug.
2. already said. jj masters are hard as nails, come from crashing poverty. 90% of street fights end up on ground. you do the math.
3. wrestling - u guys been watching the ####in wwe too much.
the other stuff is mostly defensive.
i have an idea that the guys that start these thread have never been in a fight...just take the book sack off and throw hands with a b###h. i wonder?
lets not even get to hand combat with wild animals again. ::)
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2. already said. jj masters are hard as nails, come from crashing poverty. 90% of street fights end up on ground. you do the math.
3. wrestling - u guys been watching the ####in wwe too much.
general street fights end up grappling and often on the ground b/c ppl dont know how to deal with someone standing that is clinched with them. If you know how to throw someone chances are its not going to get far enough to go to the ground unless you want it to.
the wrestling that myself and I believe others are referring to is olympic style wrestling not the wwe or whatever it is...you know on the ground...
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Found out my nephew has signed up for Karate. My brother says he wants his kid to toughen up and handle himself in school. Now mind you he is only 7 years old. I personally think Karate and TKD is no better than ballet. It is all choreographed fighting. I was telling him if he wants to have practical fighting skills that he can use to mess up bullies at school that he should take Jujitsu.
What do you guys think is the best thing to get him started in?
boxing and wrestling.
nothing more...nothing less.
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as a bodybuilder you always have enough oil with you
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general street fights end up grappling and often on the ground b/c ppl dont know how to deal with someone standing that is clinched with them. If you know how to throw someone chances are its not going to get far enough to go to the ground unless you want it to.
the wrestling that myself and I believe others are referring to is olympic style wrestling not the wwe or whatever it is...you know on the ground...
again...i'm talking about kurt angle...as far as the wwe. i've said i have no clue how his REAL skills convert in a street fight.
boxing - kimbo was trained in a gym. look at his stance, tucked chin and punch delivery in those vids. he got exposed cause gannon a cop was trained in combat, the only guy he fought in miami with REAL training. easy 2-3k per fight for him.
bjj - primary goal is to cut of blood circulation esp to the brain and THEY KNOW HOW TO FINISH. i'll pass.
again...fun stuff....but i dont think some of these guys have every come home with a black eye, are just momma's boys.
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imo boxing.
i have never met a boxer that doesn't oze confidence.
Also punching is a lifetime skill that once learned will stay with you.
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Judo,
Widely taught,
Realistic in using clothing/jacket to aid in throws.
BJJ is better for shirtless fights where you don't have clothing to grab - MMA competition
sure they are good at throwing on ground etc.. problem is they are not good at finishing the fight like a bjj guy with choke, armbar etc..
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imo boxing.
i have never met a boxer that doesn't oze confidence.
Also punching is a lifetime skill that once learned will stay with you.
Matarazzo was a boxer, but he couldn't beat a bypass...
That being said, I remember the story he beat up a guy that either broke into his or Flex's apt
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sure they are good at throwing on ground etc.. problem is they are not good at finishing the fight like a bjj guy with choke, armbar etc..
judo does involve chokes and armbars...bjj has leg locks, knee bars, heel locks etc...that judo doesnt
but again the average person isnt going to get up after being planted on the ground so the fight is generally finished then and there also alot of competitive judo clubs cross train in bjj these days to help with ground work.
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Matarazzo was a boxer, but he couldn't beat a bypass...
That being said, I remember the story he beat up a guy that either broke into his or Flex's apt
are u sure that wasnt flex with his ninja skills. based on ultimate warrior...only a spartan can defeat a ninja. flex is good to go.
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judo does involve chokes and armbars...bjj has leg locks, knee bars, heel locks etc...that judo doesnt
but again the average person isnt going to get up after being planted on the ground so the fight is generally finished then and there also alot of competitive judo clubs cross train in bjj these days to help with ground work.
alright didn't know that.
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are u sure that wasnt flex with his ninja skills. based on ultimate warrior...only a spartan can defeat a ninja. flex is good to go.
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If the ninja had used his sword, chances are it would have gone thru the sheild. I believe Spartan Shields were bronze. Ninja swords were made similar to samurai swords---meaning that they strong as fuck due to being mixed with carbon and folded over and over again.
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If the ninja had used his sword, chances are it would have gone thru the sheild. I believe Spartan Shields were bronze. Ninja swords were made similar to samurai swords---meaning that they strong as fuck due to being mixed with carbon and folded over and over again.
yes the ninja...their swords were a carbonate composite calcium and were strong as fuck...and the spartan, tough yes but...
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Matarazzo was a boxer, but he couldn't beat a bypass...
That being said, I remember the story he beat up a guy that either broke into his or Flex's apt
what does a bypass have to do with the price of chips ?
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what the hell is that thing
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There is also Jeet Jun Do, which is another form of Kung Fu and then there's Mu Tai. I go to many MMA and UFC competitions and expos and some of these Mu Tai guys can knee your head right off your body.
you dont know what ur talking about.... among others
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Definitly kiai, watch how useful it is here against an MMA fighter
kiai is not an art its a jap word
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kiai is not an art its a jap word
LOL its like a war cry type of thing...
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just start punching him daily. gradually increase the power of your punches by a few lbs of force weekly. over time you will be able to puch him as hard as you can square in the forehead and he will just laugh.
fool proof method
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LOL!!!!
I'm biased but Judo is probably the best base ... everyone can learn to punch on their own...
Plus being able to knock someone the fuck wihtout leaving marks is much better... saved me a couple of court dates actually...
Judo for 15 years...
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Ive never seen this or known anyone who has practiced this but ive heard good things, this is probably even more scarce though as far as gyms go
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http://www.krav-maga.com/ (http://www.krav-maga.com/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krav_Maga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krav_Maga)
http://www.commandokravmaga.com/ (http://www.commandokravmaga.com/)
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Yellow Bamboo
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Teach him bodybuilding. If he gets into a tight spot he can wip off his top, pull down his draws around his ankles and start bustin out poses. Imagine the fear a bully will experiene when he gets front double biceps in his face!
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combat sambo, no doubt about it.
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Vee-Arnis-Jitsu
True. Not to many schools around the country though. One in NY, one in Burbank, CA a few others.
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JKD, wrestling, boxing.
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Boxing or Muay Thai.
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muay thai for the potential of destruction, and wreslting for the finishing in beauty.
good combo = low kick, elbow smash then a supplex.
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;)
http://www.krav-maga.com/ (http://www.krav-maga.com/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krav_Maga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krav_Maga)
http://www.commandokravmaga.com/ (http://www.commandokravmaga.com/)
there is alot of aikido, aikijujutsu and old school jujutsu going on here its not funny.
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LOL!!!!
I'm biased but Judo is probably the best base ... everyone can learn to punch on their own...
Plus being able to knock someone the fuck wihtout leaving marks is much better... saved me a couple of court dates actually...
Judo for 15 years...
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holy fuck. you are your own best friend aren't you?
lol.
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Muay Thai, boxing and SYSTEMA (like Russian version of Krav Maga) taught to Russian special forces and KGB operatives.
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Beating after beating after beating...
might toughen him up along the line.
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He should just concentrate on being a kid.
That being said, if there are no sport fantasies... Systema or Krav Maga.
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krav maga
this
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Found out my nephew has signed up for Karate. My brother says he wants his kid to toughen up and handle himself in school. Now mind you he is only 7 years old. I personally think Karate and TKD is no better than ballet. It is all choreographed fighting. I was telling him if he wants to have practical fighting skills that he can use to mess up bullies at school that he should take Jujitsu.
What do you guys think is the best thing to get him started in?
100 meter sprint...
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;)
http://www.krav-maga.com/ (http://www.krav-maga.com/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krav_Maga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krav_Maga)
http://www.commandokravmaga.com/ (http://www.commandokravmaga.com/)
Great demonstration of Aikido and Jiu Jitsu, lol... I saw maybe 10% actual Krav Maga in there.
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They taught us to stab your opponent in the eye\neck with a pen or your keys in basic, do they do that in american krav maga gyms?