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gh15
Now that we're going into 2010.. I think you should update your approved pharma companys (due to fakes etc).. Let us know what to avoid and what to buy!
approved companys are,,
organon
schering
watson
desma
q pharma
jelfa
galenika
those are companys i approve,,common thing is,,,you got that right HUMAN GRADE GEAR when it comes to ug you better cover your ass and buy couple diff tests because most of them put nothing in the enanthate and then put everything in the prop,,thats why the doses are out of this world with low level amatuer now days because the poor fellas dont knwo whats real what not so they buy 5 diff testos and praying one is legit
stick with human grade unless youre very much in the know
gh15 approved
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excellent advices
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excellent advices
no, it is not
he is alluding that MOST UG gear is fake, and that is simply not true
there are fakes out there for sure, but not on the scale he is implying
for UGLs that seek to be around for a while, why would they put nothing in their shit.........they would quickly get exposed if that were the case
the bulk powders these labs buy from china are NOT expensive,
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approved companys are,,
organon
schering
watson
desma
q pharma
jelfa
galenika
those are companys i approve,,common thing is,,,you got that right HUMAN GRADE GEAR when it comes to ug you better cover your ass and buy couple diff tests because most of them put nothing in the enanthate and then put everything in the prop,,thats why the doses are out of this world with low level amatuer now days because the poor fellas dont knwo whats real what not so they buy 5 diff testos and praying one is legit
stick with human grade unless youre very much in the know
gh15 approved
I would personally add Norma on the list as well.
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yes many more human grade,,was just example,,norma is prime one
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what about injecting bull semen?.....it has the same color and consistency as test suspension...
bench
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Why would you knowingly inject something made in an underground lab right into your body via a syringe.
Crazy shit right here guys.
get out of this thread you scared little f@ggot no one cares what you think.....have sun spinning in mediocrity
why are you on a bodybuilding forum anyway
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Why would you knowingly inject something made in an underground lab right into your body via a syringe.
Crazy shit right here guys.
a reputable UG can make gear just as good, or better than a lot of human grade.....its just finding the good UG thats the problem....
bench
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Welcome back God of Hormones, why such a long break?
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translation: i inject shit into my body to get big muscles
yeh, thats right F@GGOT, we inject shit to get big muscles
once again, why are you on a bodybuilding forum
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yeh, thats right F@GGOT, we inject shit to get big muscles
once again, why are you on a bodybuilding forum
Have u ever tried real human grade gear?
night and day dif from ug shit
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But isn't HG gear far, far more likely to be fake/counterfeit. RonnyT from William Lewellyn's site estimated that up to 60% of HG gear out there is fake/counterfeit.. Here's RonnyT's response when challenged on that figure:
"It wasn't my estimation, but proven by a Dutch study where a total of 336 products were analysed !!!
* Quality of illegal doping substances – an exploration of the quality of illegally traded doping substances and the health risks that accompany
their use
2005, O. de Hon & R. van Kleij
Most of these counterfeits are made in real pharmaceutical plants but some are made by the same people that sell API's. About Chinese API's..most are good. I personally know for years the major API middleman from China and mail with him on regular basis, he also provided BD. He analyses lots of API powders for Q. Its their business and they are serious about it."
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to laugh at you mostly
wow, that is an existance to be very proud of
you spend time on a message board for an activity that you dont like, just to throw out uninformed, smarmy, ignorant statements about something you know nothing about
your one SAD little m0therfucker ::) ::)
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BTW, good to have to back God of Hormones. You are gone far too long. How's the crib in Arizona? What do you think about the new (actually it's not new) immigration law?
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But isn't HG gear far, far more likely to be fake/counterfeit. RonnyT from William Lewellyn's site estimated that up to 60% of HG gear out there is fake/counterfeit.. Here's RonnyT's response when challenged on that figure:
"It wasn't my estimation, but proven by a Dutch study where a total of 336 products were analysed !!!
* Quality of illegal doping substances – an exploration of the quality of illegally traded doping substances and the health risks that accompany
their use
2005, O. de Hon & R. van Kleij
Most of these counterfeits are made in real pharmaceutical plants but some are made by the same people that sell API's. About Chinese API's..most are good. I personally know for years the major API middleman from China and mail with him on regular basis, he also provided BD. He analyses lots of API powders for Q. Its their business and they are serious about it."
this too....i have gotten a lot of fakes before.....but the UG suplier i used when i was on AAS always gave me top notch stuff.....250mg was usually around 300mg-350mg's....
bench
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no, it is not
he is alluding that MOST UG gear is fake, and that is simply not true
there are fakes out there for sure, but not on the scale he is implying
for UGLs that seek to be around for a while, why would they put nothing in their shit.........they would quickly get exposed if that were the case
the bulk powders these labs buy from china are NOT expensive,
dude most UG gear is fake. the good UG gear companies you can count on 1 hand...keep in mind that there's hundreds of UG companies and lots of new ones that appear everyday, so yea most ug gear is fake. and there are UGLs (axio) that have been around for a while and do get exposed, but people are too stupid to know it.
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Good to see you, GH15!
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in my hhumble opinion i think buying human grade gear is more of a risk for fakes than buying a UG with a solid rep..
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in my hhumble opinion i think buying human grade gear is more of a risk for fakes than buying a UG with a solid rep..
indeed...
bench
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dude most UG gear is fake. the good UG gear companies you can count on 1 hand...keep in mind that there's hundreds of UG companies and lots of new ones that appear everyday, so yea most ug gear is fake. and there are UGLs (axio) that have been around for a while and do get exposed, but people are too stupid to know it.
im on axio right now, and am growing like a weed and jacking off 4 times a day......nothing fake about their test, thats for sure
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dude most UG gear is fake. the good UG gear companies you can count on 1 hand...keep in mind that there's hundreds of UG companies and lots of new ones that appear everyday, so yea most ug gear is fake. and there are UGLs (axio) that have been around for a while and do get exposed, but people are too stupid to know it.
Most? And what do you base that on.
Lewellyn has done extensive testing on UG labs. He has a book out, Anabolics 2008, where he tests various products on various labs. True, some were under dosed, and some, especially water based gear, had contaminates. But not many were just bunk. (In fact, I don't recall any that didn't have active compound.
Here's a review on two well known and commonly used UG labs he posted on his site prior to the book's release:
Endosyn and Morning Star Labs
On that note, here are the results I promised for the article, from testing done on samples from Morning Star Labs and Endosyn. Note that these samples were tested for chromatographic purity only, and were not analyzed for metals, water, pH, or bacteria like other samples from the UNDERGROUND ANABOLICS book. So this was a more basic set of tests, representing only one level of what you will find in the new book. Chromatographic purity is the most detailed of our tests, however, and again, tells us all the various compounds that are found in a solution. It very often can be the most telling. I hope you like what we have been doing will all this testing, and will support our efforts by preordering the book.
Endosyn:
Product: Primabolic 100
Content: Methanolone enanthate
Labeled Dose: 100 mg/mL
Chromatographic purity testing showed the product to contain:
- Methanolone enanthate 140 mg/mL
- Benzyl Alcohol
- Benzyl Benzoate
- Methyl Benzoate
- BHT
- Fatty acid methyl esters
- Fatty acid ethyl esters
- Ethyl oleate
- Aroma aldehydes
- Amines
Morning Star Labs:
Product: Testosterone Enanthate
Content: Testosterone Enanthate
Labeled Dose: 325 mg/mL
Chromatographic purity testing showed the product to contain:
- Testosterone Enanthate 350 mg/mL
- Benzyl Alcohol
- Benzaldehyde
- Fatty acid methyl esters
- Ethyl oleate
- Aroma aldehydes
- Trace steroids
Testing Comments
Neither product was subject to full analysis, so we do not have enough information to make a complete judgment about the potential risks of using these drugs. Both items did contain the listed active steroids in higher than the labeled amounts, and should yield the expected anabolic results in users. Beyond that, one could see by the list of ingredients that true pharmaceutical grade manufacturing techniques were not used to make these steroids. In both cases, there appeared to be various types of contamination. These (often natural) compounds were not investigated further, but did include things like trace steroids and amines, which often result from faults in steroid synthesis or from the use of non-pharmaceutical grade assembly materials.
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im on axio right now, and am growing like a weed and jacking off 4 times a day......nothing fake about their test, thats for sure
I hope you're not jacking it to internet porn. Uber has pointed out how unhealthy that is. ;D
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I hope you're not jacking it to internet porn. Uber has pointed out how unhealthy that is. ;D
no, for me its more situational.....like some chick i'll see in line at the bank
i picture what it would be like to actually approach her and fuck her, as opposed to my usual introverted social anxiety
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no, for me its more situational.....like some chick i'll see in line at the bank
i picture what it would be like to actually approach her and fuck her, as opposed to my usual introverted social anxiety
are you on tren?.....i did shit like that when i used to shoot tren everyday ;D
bench
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are you on tren?.....i did shit like that when i used to shoot tren everyday ;D
bench
thats anathema to most peoples experience with tren you realize? hence tren-dick
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in my hhumble opinion i think buying human grade gear is more of a risk for fakes than buying a UG with a solid rep..
You might have a point there. Nobody is going to counterfeit UG gear. And if a UGL is producing complete bunk word gets around pretty quick with the instant communication on the net. Sometimes even a good source doesn't know that he's pushing fake HG. So sometimes you get the real thing and sometime you don't. That's why so many of the pharms keep changing the design of their packaging and amps. With UG if they are faking something as cheap as test then you know the whole lab is junk.
It seems to me that most guys who are serious juicers are very active on the various boards out there. They also know pretty quick when they have bunk and they get on the boards pretty quick. That alerts others, both potential customers and those already on the stuff. And then it just snow balls. Remember what happened to Axio? Even though they started out good and with a good rep when they started cutting corners they were outed very quickly. They had to revamp their whole operation and it's only in the last year or so where they seem to have made a complete comeback.
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You might have a point there. Nobody is going to counterfeit UG gear. And if a UGL is producing complete bunk word gets around pretty quick with the instant communication on the net. Sometimes even a good source doesn't know that he's pushing fake HG. So sometimes you get the real thing and sometime you don't. That's why so many of the pharms keep changing the design of their packaging and amps. With UG if they are faking something as cheap as test then you know the whole lab is junk.
It seems to me that most guys who are serious juicers are very active on the various boards out there. They also know pretty quick when they have bunk and they get on the boards pretty quick. That alerts others, both potential customers and those already on the stuff. And then it just snow balls. Remember what happened to Axio? Even though they started out good and with a good rep when they started cutting corners they were outed very quickly. They had to revamp their whole operation and it's only in the last year or so where they seem to have made a complete comeback.
i could really vouch for axio's current quality
i just sampled liek 6 different products from them, and they ALL are doing what they are supposed to do
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no, for me its more situational.....like some chick i'll see in line at the bank
i picture what it would be like to actually approach her and fuck her, as opposed to my usual introverted social anxiety
LOL. I'm similar in a lot of ways. Last weekend at Borders I saw some chick with a very pretty face wearing big dorky glasses and conservatively dressed but by the look of her calves, the glimmer of cleavage, small waist, and fantastic skin tone I concluded she'd be quite a sight unwrapped.
I imagined myself violating her in the most brutal and vile way. I didn't whack it that night but did store her in, as JNN calls it, my spank bank.
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thats anathema to most peoples experience with tren you realize? hence tren-dick
on tren i had a rock hard boner all day, every day....could fuck for hours but when i blew my load it was only 1, or 2 drops ;D
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Most? And what do you base that on.
do you know how many UGLs labs they are? dude theres tons and tons of them...and a ton of new ones appear everyday.
i know endosyn and g-star are good ugls..along with syntranx, oxide and a few others. like i said the good ones you can count on your hands...but that still makes most ugl fake if you look at the total number of fake ugls to real ugl.