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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: OneManGang on May 21, 2010, 10:38:47 PM
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Yes, Tim Sylvia showed that 14 inch guns can even crush 20 inch arms of functional strongman strength. Pudz is now Sylvia's house boy!
;D
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he wont recover.
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So the blockhead lost eh? I remember seeing him a few years ago outside a club here in Poland, dude looked at least 10 to 15 years older than his actual real age.
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So the blockhead lost eh? I remember seeing him a few years ago outside a club here in Poland, dude looked at least 10 to 15 years older than his actual real age.
And he lost to a guy with 14 inch arms and no athletic ability whatsoever ;D
He wont recover!
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Soon to be removed video or it never happened.
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everyone knew he would get vrushed.
The main problem is
....he stapped out like a bitch.
The worlds strongest man tapped out like a bitch from lame punches ...
I bet poland is pissed. polish people are mostly badasses
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Hey Swede, have you have been to Poland? If yes, I'm curious what your observations were concerning Poland and Polish people. And yeah you are right, some of them are badasses.
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Hey Swede, have you have been to Poland? If yes, I'm curious what your observations were concerning Poland and Polish people. And yeah you are right, some of them are badasses.
We had alot of polish people in sweden a while back, Ive seen some of them fight and ive known some. Nice dudes but you you know that feeling you get from some people that you're better of Not messing with them, well I get that from polish people.
And ive seen hundred of fights videos, not the best fighters but there is usually no quitting in them..
Same with alot of russians
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THIS MUST NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN. >:(
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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha hhaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WTF did I tell you morons in the other thread? Silvia was gonna use his 6'8 reach and years of experience. Pud...yes Pud is exactly that a fucking Pud...Arm size has nothing to do with it...
Wolfe fail and now Pud fail...Team Huge A r y a n bastard won't recover.
The funniest part is the mother fucker tapped from punches.....hahahhahahah ahahaahahhahahaa!
Swede WTF? Polish people are mostly badasses? Never heard that one ::) Here, Polish people are mostly stupid.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WTF did I tell you morons in the other thread? Silvia was gonna use his 6'8 reach and years of experience. Pud...yes Pud is exactly that a fucking Pud...Arm size has nothing to do with it...
What did I say a LONG time ago? ;D
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The size of your arms makes about 1% or 2% of the difference in a fight. It's all about stamina, technique, core power, speed, force, etc.
Pure muscular strength means little.
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True dat! And what is especially important is your skill and technique, and don't forget, keeping your mind calm and focused mind.
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Tim weighed in at 305. He doesn't have 14" arms.
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Tim weighed in at 305. He doesn't have 14" arms.
Theres no way he s 6 8 looks about 6 3
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Shitty fight. Pud better get his conditioning right if he ever wants to have a chance to be the least bit successful.
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What did I say a LONG time ago? ;D
wiggs is so ridiculous... nobody doubted a second pudzianowski would lose, lol, the question was how was he gonna lose :D, nobody can win with pure size unless they have nuclear power in their muscle's, and nobody had nuclear power in their muscles.
and there we see wiggs's weird "brother" seizor again with his banana level intelligence, commie people aren't even considerred white in finland, they are "worse than your kind", wiggs... there's a saying in finland that a commie is a commie even if you fried it in butter. Stupid.
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I can't believe how STUPID this sport is. Do you guys really enjoy watching a shit like this? Please explain why. ???
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I can't believe how STUPID this sport is. Do you guys really enjoy watching a shit like this? Please explain why. ???
Some people enjoy real sports Namat.
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How does Syvlia win fights? He is this hunched over, big ogre, who does not really look to be in the best of shape. You would think he would be getting the shit beat out of him every fight.
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I can't believe how STUPID this sport is. Do you guys really enjoy watching a shit like this? Please explain why. ???
Why do people like watching a bunch of oiled up men in little underwear pose on stage for 2+ hours? :-X :-X
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I can't believe how STUPID this sport is. Do you guys really enjoy watching a shit like this? Please explain why. ???
very very ironic coming from a guy that does his "battles" oiled up in a thong infront of a male audience....
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speaking of MMA and steroid abuse.
It almost seems as if people used shit load of drugs in the early days of MMA ??? When the thing came in to the scene many fighters prolly thought it would have to be the case? I mean
Look at this higlight of frank and phil and look at their opponents, many of them have the "look", naw mean... I can only imagine how skillfull MMA fighters will be in 20 years from now
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Some people enjoy real sports Namat.
Posing on stage = not a real sport (anyway training in the gym and being a bodybuilder 24/7 is the hardest sport you can find...)
Beating the shit out of an other man and being a "champion" = not a real sport plus I believe it makes the world worse...
Real sport = for example basketball just to name one...
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Theres no way he s 6 8 looks about 6 3
when he stands Straight hes a very tall dude..
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(http://knightsofarmageddon.com/images/pic_friends_08_tim_sylvia.jpg)
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Chalk one up for the fat guys!!! Hell Yeah!!! Marius Pussianowski better stick to Strongman before his pride gets hurt! Everyone wants to be cage fighter.
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Posing on stage = not a real sport (anyway training in the gym and being a bodybuilder 24/7 is the hardest sport you can find...)
Beating the shit out of an other man and being a "champion" = not a real sport plus I believe it makes the world worse...
Real sport = for example basketball just to name one...
fighting is the worlds first true sport... it goes back soooooooo long in human history.
And no training mma or wrestling is a shitload harder then staying on a diet injecting aas and lifting weights. you have No idea. Nor do you have Any fucking idea what it takes to have great wrestling endurance.
lets ask coach he should know.
Coach, whats harder staying on a diet and lifting weight or a intense 12 week training program leading up to a fight?
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Posing on stage = not a real sport (anyway training in the gym and being a bodybuilder 24/7 is the hardest sport you can find...)
Beating the shit out of an other man and being a "champion" = not a real sport plus I believe it makes the world worse...
Real sport = for example basketball just to name one...
u don't know how hard it is to wrestle for even one minute without getting exhausted, you stupid dumb ass. You need to be in better lasting conditioning than runners, that's how hard fighting is.
tsssh ::)
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very very ironic coming from a guy that does his "battles" oiled up in a thong infront of a male audience....
You are spending half of your life on bodybuilding message board and still don't know what is bodybuilding all about... (Or maybe you just try to being a "cool guy" in front of the other members with all these posts...I hope that's the truth. But it's still sad anyway... ;D)
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You are spending half of your life on bodybuilding message board and still don't know what is bodybuilding all about... (Or maybe you just try to being a "cool guy" in front of the other members with all these posts...I hope that's the truth. But it's still sad anyway... ;D)
and you have spent most of your life on aas trying to make up for your lack of height, whats more pathetic? :)
a bodybuilder should Never insult a real sport.
Its like figure skaters saying that its rougher the nhl..
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u don't know how hard it is to wrestle for even one minute without getting exhausted, you stupid dumb ass. You need to be in better lasting conditioning than runners, that's how hard fighting is.
tsssh ::)
I'm not talking about how hard the fighting is... It's VERY hard I know. But beating somebody for money in front of the audience and being a star...I can't believe this shit.
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You are spending half of your life on bodybuilding message board and still don't know what is bodybuilding all about... (Or maybe you just try to being a "cool guy" in front of the other members with all these posts...I hope that's the truth. But it's still sad anyway... ;D)
What is bodybuilding all about? You lift weights, then go on stage and pose. What else is there to it?
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I'm not talking about how hard the fighting is... It's VERY hard I know. But beating somebody for money in front of the audience and being a star...I can't believe this shit.
Namat , can you please explain how bodybuilding is the hardest sport you can find , BTW I competed in boxing and bodybuilding .
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I'm not talking about how hard the fighting is... It's VERY hard I know. But beating somebody for money in front of the audience and being a star...I can't believe this shit.
yeah you can say that about being a bodybuilder on stage... men cheering for pumped up muscles, yeah great ???
violence is allways good, this is what Joe Rogan sayes about fighting and violence and I agree
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I'm not talking about how hard the fighting is... It's VERY hard I know. But beating somebody for money in front of the audience and being a star...I can't believe this shit.
2 guys going at it in a cage. One loses one win. Its the purest most exiting sport there is. No weapons no nothing, just hands and fists.
you cant understand why the gladiator games were popular either?
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Its the purest most exiting sport there is. ?
To you.
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To you.
its the purest imo =)
fighting is the purest form of competition, what would your argument be thats more pure?
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Im with Swede on this! I sit ringside once a month to judge MMA, seeing the looks in these guys eyes when they get in that cage and the door closes there aint alot of shit out there that gets this intense.
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its the purest imo =)
fighting is the purest form of competition, what would your argument be thats more pure?
I was refering to the exciting part
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Hey devilsmile, poles are slavs, just as are russians, and most other eastern europeans, and yes they are inferior to the other white tribes, but the cream of the crop isn't the Aryans or the Nordics, it is the Scotch-Irish ;> Just ask the Alpha Male Clint Eastwood about that :> And speaking of Scotch-Irish, I would imagine that the King of Cool, Mr. Steve McQueen, was of Scotch-Irish ancestry as well :)
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Im with Swede on this! I sit ringside once a month to judge MMA, seeing the looks in these guys eyes when they get in that cage and the door closes there aint alot of shit out there that gets this intense.
One of the few sports pepople could say "you cant talk shit about no one if you havent done it yourself" and I would almost agree.
Even though someone might fight like a pussy it takes guts standing inside a cage knowing your about to kick ass or get your ass kicked and being Ok with that.
(if you tap right away like a bitch on the other hand its another story lol)
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I was refering to the exciting part
oh =) Im ok with that :)
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I think boxing is a more "noble" sport, just two guys and their fists. Just my opinion. I think they're both awesome sports though.
Then there is limits, take old school valetudo for example, you can pretty much do Anything with our own body thats more
...PUUUUUUUUUURE baby lol.
Imo 12 rounds boxing match does a shitload more damange to you.
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you saw the point at 2:54, where Marius forgot every single thing he had learned about MMA. At that point, he was just a tired powerlifter in a fight.
I love these fights, where one man is super skilled, and the other is not. Guys don't try to protect themselves or defend as well. They get beaten to hamburger.
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Then there is limits, take old school valetudo for example, you can pretty much do Anything with our own body thats
Imo 12 rounds boxing match does a shitload more damange to you.
You are right, MMA is more violent than boxing but boxing is more dangerous
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Theres no way he s 6 8 looks about 6 3
I said it before...The dude looks no taller than me...He's hunched over as fuck...When he walks he's about 6-1, 6-2 at best...
However, when he sands straight he's about 6'7
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I don't know about noble... human being wrestles, kicks and punches... why "couldn't you" do these things, why limit your self only to boxing. Even though a boxer would out box any mma fighter, I just don't agree with the noble part.
It's like saying "civilised warfere" is the way to go... dude, how are you civilised killing people in the name of good god ::), there is no such thing, in my oppinion go all the way.
bring back head buts :D
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Posing on stage = not a real sport (anyway training in the gym and being a bodybuilder 24/7 is the hardest sport you can find...)
Beating the shit out of an other man and being a "champion" = not a real sport plus I believe it makes the world worse...
Real sport = for example basketball just to name one...
The idea of two men boxing or fighting in any capacity, even in the likes of MMA, has long been considered a sport even before mainstream sports like baseball, basketball and hockey became so popular.
Think of the gladiator games in the Roman Colosseum. Two men, who've spent a life training in the art/sport of fighting, come together to do battle, in order to determine who is the better fighter/athlete.
Some will argue that the thought of a man spending close to a year's time in the gym, preparing for a glorified beauty pageant is more of a sad thing that promotes vanity and detrimental physiological effects.
What do these men truly accomplish? You spend a year training as hard as you can in the gym, injecting steroids into your body vigorously, hoping that you are able to somehow come in holding a little more muscle and less fat than the rest of them AND then to top it off, you have to wax your body, spray on a bronzer of some type and then go up on stage only to parade around in a thong side-by-side other semi-nude men, who are greased up and moaning from pose to pose. To make matters worse, when you are individually judged, you are expected to go up on a stage and practically perform identical to that of a male stripper at a gay bar. They play some nice dance music, to which the professional bodybuilder dances to, while waving to the crowd in hopes that they would cheer him on.
Face it man, professional bodybuilding is the love child of both a male strip joint and a beauty pageant.
"1"
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You are right, MMA is more violent than boxing but boxing is more dangerous
its sad that most people cant understand this, especially swedes :)
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a bodybuilder should Never insult a real sport.
Well we live in a democracy most of us..
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Don`t know whats wrong with Pudz,but his skin colour looked very blueish to me.He looked totally spent after 2 minutes and look at the difference in skin colour on his back compared to Tim
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Well we live in a democracy most of us..
"should have the common sense not to"
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Don`t know whats wrong with Pudz,but his skin colour looked very blueish to me.He looked totally spent after 2 minutes and look at the difference in skin colour on his back compared to Tim
HAHAHAHA, pumping up idiocy :D.... I should have taken fighting and gymnastics instead of going to the gym freestyle 5 years ago, what a fucking waste.... what can I "rly" do :D
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Don`t know whats wrong with Pudz,but his skin colour looked very blueish to me.He looked totally spent after 2 minutes and look at the difference in skin colour on his back compared to Tim
He threw himself on the floor...It was just a paycheck...
He pulled a buster Douglas
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Yes, Tim Sylvia showed that 14 inch guns can even crush 20 inch arms of functional strongman strength. Pudz is now Sylvia's house boy!
;D
Yeah, if this 6'8" 305 pounder has 14" arms, then yours are 5" around... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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It doesn't really matter what his arms actually measure, what matters is if they are ascetically pleasing or not ;)
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How does Syvlia win fights? He is this hunched over, big ogre, who does not really look to be in the best of shape. You would think he would be getting the shit beat out of him every fight.
You can say the same thing about Tank Abbott back in the day, but he won and won and won.....
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It doesn't really matter what his arms actually measure, what matters is if they are ascetically pleasing or not ;)
Tim's entire structure just looks so cramped up its painful
mroe narrow shoulder the phil even at 6"8
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You can say the same thing about Tank Abbott back in the day, but he won and won and won.....
against No names. And most of his fights were pre 1997 when "most people" sucked lol
Tim won because he has a strong chin (YES WE ALL KNOW HE GOT KO'D BY A FORMER BOXER) and just kept his distance and edged out wins by jabbing due to his long ass reach.
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;D
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I can't believe how STUPID this sport is. Do you guys really enjoy watching a shit like this? Please explain why. ???
haha, The truth.
Never since a bodybuilding video, has so much boring footage ever been recorded.
I'll take an early Tyson fight over this crap, any day.
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Speaking of boxing and Tyson, how about Hagler vs "Hit man" Hearns, or Duran vs Lenord?
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Why do you guys feel there is a correlation between someones physique and their ability to fight?
Based on that Kimbo, Bob Sapp, Kevin Randleman and Pud would be good and Silvia and other sloppy asses would be horrible.
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Why do you guys feel there is a correlation between someones physique and their ability to fight?
Based on that Kimbo, Bob Sapp, Kevin Randleman and Pud would be good and Silvia and other sloppy asses would be horrible.
sadest thing is, bob sap wone ernesto hoost, the BEST k-1 fighter there was, a legend :D... I'm sure bob didn't walk for a month after that but still...
In my oppinion, kimbo/randleman/sapp are 100 times the fighters/athletes pudzianowski is... I mean, pudzianowski should have sticked with the strongest man he did phenomanal there... now he looks like a posing bitch that's all, he tapped out to a guy that looks like a tattoed redneck and even he is 100000 times the athlete pudzianowski is. What is pudzianowski gonna do now? "I don't whanna get hurt anymore, let me come back to the excessive steroid lifestyle of a strongman again with oily muscle covers :(
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The conclusion is that oiled men in thongs posing on stage in front of cheering schmoes is a sport while the combat sports is only a spectacle.
Dieting, synthol, silicon implants and drug injections is all hard training.
Chick....arriving in 5.....4....3....2....
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fighting is the worlds first true sport... it goes back soooooooo long in human history.
And no training mma or wrestling is a shitload harder then staying on a diet injecting aas and lifting weights. you have No idea. Nor do you have Any fucking idea what it takes to have great wrestling endurance.
lets ask coach he should know.
Coach, whats harder staying on a diet and lifting weight or a intense 12 week training program leading up to a fight?
Definitely the fight training. It's a no brainer.
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I think this fight was too close to Pudzianowski's last fight. He didn't recover. I also think that while he clearly lost the first round, he did pretty well considering he was up against a former two time champion.
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mariuz had a tough time bringing Sylvia down in those first seconds of the fight and keeping him there. :-\ I honestly thought he wasn't going to have much problem bringing guys down due to his strength. I guess his incredible "functional" strength didn't help him all that much, in a fight like this I think technique and skills are more important.
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I think this fight was too close to Pudzianowski's last fight. He didn't recover. I also think that while he clearly lost the first round, he did pretty well considering he was up against a former two time champion.
In the end none of that matters he lost....he's done.
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I can't believe how STUPID this sport is. Do you guys really enjoy watching a shit like this? Please explain why. ???
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dumbest thing I've seen on a board in along time right here.
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Why do you guys feel there is a correlation between someones physique and their ability to fight?
Based on that Kimbo, Bob Sapp, Kevin Randleman and Pud would be good and Silvia and other sloppy asses would be horrible.
Hm...but Silva is horrible. Fedor took 36 seconds to destroy him.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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He had two major things going against him. He gassed quickly and he had very little fighting skills.
Just being strong won't win a boxing, wrestling or MMA fight. I have seen 145lb. boxers hit the bag like an explosion and could only bench 225lbs. I have also seen 400lbs benchers punch a bag like a lady. The difference was true power. There are so many factors other than strength in fighting.
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He had two major things going against him. He gassed quickly and he had very little fighting skills.
Just being strong won't win a boxing, wrestling or MMA fight. I have seen 145lb. boxers hit the bag like an explosion and could only bench 225lbs. I have also seen 400lbs benchers punch a bag like a lady. The difference was true power. There are so many factors other than strength in fighting.
Agreed. He is not done in my opinion, just needs to improve his skills.
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Just watched the fight, can't believe he lost to that small armed fat guy!!! Dude tapped out like there was no tomorrow!
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three of the more obvious reasons why marius lost:
1. marius tried kicking and a bunch of other wanna-be badass type stuff. he really just needs to stick to spears, punches, tackles, chokes, haymakers..
2. the guy is physically larger than marius.
3. marius doesnt seem like he can take a hit.
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He had two major things going against him. He gassed quickly and he had very little fighting skills.
Just being strong won't win a boxing, wrestling or MMA fight. I have seen 145lb. boxers hit the bag like an explosion and could only bench 225lbs. I have also seen 400lbs benchers punch a bag like a lady. The difference was true power. There are so many factors other than strength in fighting.
It would appear that the difference in above boxing descriptions does come down to strength, just a form of it that Mariusz may not be used to. I think he can do well if he can improve his technical unsoundness.
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It would appear that the difference in above boxing descriptions does come down to strength, just a form of it that Mariusz may not be used to. I think he can do well if he can improve his technical unsoundness.
??? ??? ::)
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??? ??? ::)
Yes, it is obviously a different form of strength or a different way to utilize what strength the person has.
How is it that Ricky Hatton can punch stronger than Mariusz Pudzianowski? Is Ricky stronger?
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If this queer was any type of man he'd be making millions boxing.
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Yes, it is obviously a different form of strength or a different way to utilize what strength the person has.
How is it that Ricky Hatton can punch stronger than Mariusz Pudzianowski? Is Ricky stronger?
this isn't dragonball z ::).... even though I do admit I have watched it religiously in the past...
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and you have spent most of your life on aas trying to make up for your lack of height, whats more pathetic? :)
a bodybuilder should Never insult a real sport.
Its like figure skaters saying that its rougher the nhl..
Youre the last person who should be making fun of someones height midget
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this isn't dragonball z ::).... even though I do admit I have watched it religiously in the past...
The simplest way I can put it is that Mariusz has strength conducive to winning strongman competitions but he does not necessarily demonstrate that same strength advantage in fighting. He could learn to harness his strength for fighting with more training. I think he can do well in the UFC.
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The simplest way I can put it is that Mariusz has strength conducive to winning strongman competitions but he does not necessarily demonstrate that same strength advantage in fighting. He could learn to harness his strength for fighting with more training. I think he can do well in the UFC.
yes I understand and I agree kinda but the training to develop that instictive skill takes years and years and years, and the stamina required to fight long periods takes years and years... he doesn't have a base for it, his base is being the strongest mofo on the planet when it comes to lifting and bending anything that isn't living like tiers and steel and rocks etc.
he has been explosive against rocks and steel... not against people who fight back and add even more presure... to beat top ufc competition with shere power, pudzianowski would have to be able to dumble bench press a car in each hand for 20 reps.... or he could develop the skill
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MMA isn't a sport, killing was the sport in the gladiator days, they just didn't pussy foot around, they would have called MMA training light training in their day.
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MMA isn't a sport, killing was the sport in the gladiator days, they just didn't pussy foot around, they would have called MMA training light training in their day.
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do you not understand, you cannot tell someone what it is like unless you have walked in their shoes, which you haven't. So how are you here telling us you know what it takes to be a formula 1 driver now too? You are so naive.
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I would like to see Tim fight Bob Lashley. Someone who has real take down skills.
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I'm not talking about how hard the fighting is... It's VERY hard I know. But beating somebody for money in front of the audience and being a star...I can't believe this shit.
I am not trying to be a dick here, but do you know anything about the sport, rules, or do you follow it in any way?
Do you just see the blood and KO's and think it is barbaric?
Be honest? I am curious.
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too much pec bouncing and hugging during the fight. Marius made good money for doing very little
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Mariusz gassed himself out trying to take Tim down. After that first attempt the unconditioned bastard had nothing left.
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Some people enjoy real sports Namat.
and none of you are seen on the sports forum :)
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yeah you can say that about being a bodybuilder on stage... men cheering for pumped up muscles, yeah great ???
violence is allways good, this is what Joe Rogan sayes about fighting and violence and I agree
Rogan was a little off there basically saying: "Hey, nothing wrong with getting killed in the ring at 25 years old! People die every day, it's ok!" Fuking retard
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WOW, Mariuz = total pussy. Fukin bum didn't even try to trade punches after the first 1-2 minutes of the first round. He'd just back off and wait for Tim to unload. What a disgrace
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Rogan was a little off there basically saying: "Hey, nothing wrong with getting killed in the ring at 25 years old! People die every day, it's ok!" Fuking retard
So quick to get to name calling... He didn't say that their is nothing wrong with it, just that it's better than living to die a slow death. YOu call him a retard as if he's pro death.... settle down.
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So quick to get to name calling... He didn't say that their is nothing wrong with it, just that it's better than living to die a slow death. YOu call him a retard as if he's pro death.... settle down.
Ya I do, what he said is retarded. This isn't Braveheart; dying in an MMA ring isn't glorious. I'd take old age and living a complete life, over getting my brains knocked out in the ring and dying in my prime. I actually don't mind Rogan, but that was a little off IMO.
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and none of you are seen on the sports forum :)
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Good point hehe
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He had two major things going against him. He gassed quickly and he had very little fighting skills.
Just being strong won't win a boxing, wrestling or MMA fight. I have seen 145lb. boxers hit the bag like an explosion and could only bench 225lbs. I have also seen 400lbs benchers punch a bag like a lady. The difference was true power. There are so many factors other than strength in fighting.
ye, i think we all saw kevin levrone punching the heavy bag.......
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Yes, it is obviously a different form of strength or a different way to utilize what strength the person has.
How is it that Ricky Hatton can punch stronger than Mariusz Pudzianowski? Is Ricky stronger?
I was refering to the fact that you mentioned that mariouz Might actually become good.
That wont happen even in your wildest dreams..
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Youre the last person who should be making fun of someones height midget
Dude, you're 5"7 yourself, you shouldn't really talk either "bro"
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Marius is a below 3rd class fighter.
Good proof that muscle and power alone means nothing in fighting.
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Marius is a below 3rd class fighter.
Good proof that muscle and power alone means nothing in fighting.
Means "nothing"? He took down a former two-time heavyweight champion. He lasted seven minutes with someone who could formally say he was the best fighter in the world. His strength doesn't mean everything, but it means something.
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Yes, Tim Sylvia showed that 14 inch guns can even crush 20 inch arms of functional strongman strength. Pudz is now Sylvia's house boy!
;D
who was that Nasser supporting douche that came on here a few weeks back proudly asserting....The bigger man will always win
...............idiot
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mariusz has 3 fights, sylvia has about 30 or so
i'd say he did quite well considering his inexperience, does he have any sort of fighting background?
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Marius is a below 3rd class fighter.
Good proof that muscle and power alone means nothing in fighting.
Good. Tell that to the fighting organizations of the world and they can get rid of the weight classes... ::)
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I am not trying to be a dick here, but do you know anything about the sport, rules, or do you follow it in any way?
Do you just see the blood and KO's and think it is barbaric?
Be honest? I am curious.
I don't care about the rules. In my opinion every sport where two men fighting against each other (let's face it: they are trying to kill each other) are STUPID. I hate violence and it's so sad that so many people are enjoying to watch it...
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I don't care about the rules. In my opinion every sport where two men fighting against each other (let's face it: they are trying to kill each other) are STUPID. I hate violence and it's so sad that so many people are enjoying to watch it...
Translation :'' I'm a pussy ''
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Translation :'' I'm a pussy ''
That's why they use a thong.
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I don't care about the rules. In my opinion every sport where two men fighting against each other (let's face it: they are trying to kill each other) are STUPID. I hate violence and it's so sad that so many people are enjoying to watch it...
You obviously have no clue how this sport works. Nobody is trying to kill anyone and there has never been a death or serious injury in the UFC. People like you who draw conclusions about a sport they really know nothing about is the number one problem effecting its growth. No trying to be a dick to....it's just very frustrating when the sports history and fighters will tell the opposite of what you are saying here. Many who fight are cool with each other before and after they fight.
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I don't care about the rules. In my opinion every sport where two men fighting against each other (let's face it: they are trying to kill each other) are STUPID. I hate violence and it's so sad that so many people are enjoying to watch it...
You also wrote:
Posing on stage = not a real sport (anyway training in the gym and being a bodybuilder 24/7 is the hardest sport you can find...)
Beating the shit out of an other man and being a "champion" = not a real sport plus I believe it makes the world worse...
Real sport = for example basketball just to name one...
Please tell me how this makes the world worse? What about your drug addiction? I mean, some 16 year old picks up a magazine and sees you in it. He knows you put tons of shit into your body--he uses you as a role model, and begins to stick tons of shit into his body. Doesn't this make the world worse? Are you not contributing to this by serving as a "role model" who sticks drugs into his body? You're not really making the world better by drugging up.
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If bodybuilding is a 24/7 "sport" so is MMA. Fighters have to follow a rigorous training regimen that includes cardio that would make the typical bber puke after 5 minutes, plus fighters have to stick to diet in order to make weight.
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You also wrote:
Posing on stage = not a real sport (anyway training in the gym and being a bodybuilder 24/7 is the hardest sport you can find...)
Beating the shit out of an other man and being a "champion" = not a real sport plus I believe it makes the world worse...
Real sport = for example basketball just to name one...
Please tell me how this makes the world worse? What about your drug addiction? I mean, some 16 year old picks up a magazine and sees you in it. He knows you put tons of shit into your body--he uses you as a role model, and begins to stick tons of shit into his body. Doesn't this make the world worse? Are you not contributing to this by serving as a "role model" who sticks drugs into his body? You're not really making the world better by drugging up.
He wont be able to answear that nor will he see the hypocrisy in his statement. MMA is 10 times harder than being a professional bodybuilder. Namat thinks that only bodybuilders have to diet , doesn't know what real weight cutting is.
FYI Namat, most MMArtists have the ut most respect for their opponents. Don't comment on MMA Steve until you educate yourself a little. You wouldn't want everyone judging bodybuilding based on thier first impressions would you?
Namat, does injectiong yourself with substances that are illegal in many countries including the USA make the world better? Is injecting illegal hormones better than two trained athletes (real athletes, not drug addicts in posing trunks and baby oil) participating in combat under a set of sanctioned rules that rarley see's either participant serioulsy hurt?
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Means "nothing"? He took down a former two-time heavyweight champion. He lasted seven minutes with someone who could formally say he was the best fighter in the world. His strength doesn't mean everything, but it means something.
Absolutley. Stength and power are very important to fighting, just not as important as cardio and endurance.
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Where did Namat go? Crying about how MMA is not a real sport and makes the world worse while he injects himself with illegal hormones and has to do illegal drug deals for him to aquire his gear. I hope he gets caught then deported. I'm not American and am uncertain how they deal with immigrants who gain citizenship who are then convicted of a crime but here in Canada his ass would be deported back to whatever dog shit third world country he came from.
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Where did Namat go? Crying about how MMA is not a real sport and makes the world worse while he injects himself with illegal hormones and has to do illegal drug deals for him to aquire his gear. I hope he gets caught then deported. I'm not American and am uncertain how they deal with immigrants who gain citizenship who are then convicted of a crime but here in Canada his ass would be deported back to whatever dog shit third world country he came from.
Deported? He may end up as president! ;D
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Absolutley. Stength and power are very important to fighting, just not as important as cardio and endurance.
Power is everything in punching and kicking. Powerlifting is misnamed. It should be called strengthlifting. Power is how quickly you can generate strength. Olympic lifting should be called powerlifting. Benching 500lbs means nothing if you don't have the power. When a little 135lbs is punching like a rock he is accelerating his whole body into speed during that punch. When a lumbering 240lbs fighter who benches 450lbs throws a slow arm punch he isn't generating any power. That's why almost all powerlifters who squat 900lbs can't dunk. That's why almost all elite olympic lifters can dunk.
MMA besides skill takes conditioning, power, speed, endurance, V02 and strength. One other point about fighting. Strength without conditioning is useless in fighting. Running out of gas is a major problem in fighting.
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Power is everything in punching and kicking. Powerlifting is misnamed. It should be called strengthlifting. Power is how quickly you can generate strength. Olympic lifting should be called powerlifting. Benching 500lbs means nothing if you don't have the power. When a little 135lbs is punching like a rock he is accelerating his whole body into speed during that punch. When a lumbering 240lbs fighter who benches 450lbs throws a slow arm punch he isn't generating any power. That's why almost all powerlifters who squat 900lbs can't dunk. That's why almost all elite olympic lifters can dunk.
MMA besides skill takes conditioning, power, speed, endurance, V02 and strength. One other point about fighting. Strength without conditioning is useless in fighting. Running out of gas is a major problem in fighting.
Power is everything in punching and kicking. Powerlifting is misnamed. It should be called strengthlifting. Power is how quickly you can generate strength. Olympic lifting should be called powerlifting. Benching 500lbs means nothing if you don't have the power. When a little 135lbs is punching like a rock he is accelerating his whole body into speed during that punch. When a lumbering 240lbs fighter who benches 450lbs throws a slow arm punch he isn't generating any power. That's why almost all powerlifters who squat 900lbs can't dunk. That's why almost all elite olympic lifters can dunk.
MMA besides skill takes conditioning, power, speed, endurance, V02 and strength. One other point about fighting. Strength without conditioning is useless in fighting. Running out of gas is a major problem in fighting.
Power is everything in punching and kicking. Powerlifting is misnamed. It should be called strengthlifting. Power is how quickly you can generate strength. Olympic lifting should be called powerlifting. Benching 500lbs means nothing if you don't have the power. When a little 135lbs is punching like a rock he is accelerating his whole body into speed during that punch. When a lumbering 240lbs fighter who benches 450lbs throws a slow arm punch he isn't generating any power. That's why almost all powerlifters who squat 900lbs can't dunk. That's why almost all elite olympic lifters can dunk.
MMA besides skill takes conditioning, power, speed, endurance, V02 and strength. One other point about fighting. Strength without conditioning is useless in fighting. Running out of gas is a major problem in fighting.
Power is everything in punching and kicking. Powerlifting is misnamed. It should be called strengthlifting. Power is how quickly you can generate strength. Olympic lifting should be called powerlifting. Benching 500lbs means nothing if you don't have the power. When a little 135lbs is punching like a rock he is accelerating his whole body into speed during that punch. When a lumbering 240lbs fighter who benches 450lbs throws a slow arm punch he isn't generating any power. That's why almost all powerlifters who squat 900lbs can't dunk. That's why almost all elite olympic lifters can dunk.
MMA besides skill takes conditioning, power, speed, endurance, V02 and strength. One other point about fighting. Strength without conditioning is useless in fighting. Running out of gas is a major problem in fighting.
and that's why "world strongest man" ( ::)) lost to a "out of shape" white man hick ::)
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when he stands Straight hes a very tall dude..
(http://www.mmatko.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/tim-int.jpg)
(http://knightsofarmageddon.com/images/pic_friends_08_tim_sylvia.jpg)
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Ive seen Tim in person of a few occasions..He looks like about 6'2 max when he walks...He has terrible posture. However, if he stands 100% straight..He's about 6-6, 6-7 easily.
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Actually it's Quickness that transfers power to torque into a explosive applied action. Quickness is not to be confused with speed ( lot of other stuff involved here, way too long) . Top athletes tend to be quicker, all thing being equal. That's why so many brothers show superior qualities over other athletes. Their quickness and reaction time, putting things in motion, are well above the average.
Personal view: don't consider PL'ers superior in lifting sports. Olympic lifters, yes by all means. Have to be exceptionally quick, along with applied power, to raise 400lbs plus overhead in a matter of a second or two. Just the distance traveled of a huge weight lifted, off the floor, is impressive. Pl'ers, not so much, with their short ROM in the lifts.
Until Pud gets better at training 360 degrees strength angles (including lateral (bi, tri, quad, etc), learning to use whole body leverage/shifts, etc, with increased stamina (strength & endurance), he's not going to go far in the fighting sport. Give him a good 6 months and let's see how he improves. I get a feeling he could be top dog sometime in the near future. Just does not have the experience and full training as yet.