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Title: Antidepressants
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on May 22, 2010, 05:46:02 AM
I just found out that everyone and their brother take Antidepressants.

WTF?

Do you guys really need this medicine to cope with life?

Someone please explain...
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: _bruce_ on May 22, 2010, 05:50:14 AM
Depends - if you're really suffering then down with it.
Currently I'm trying Qi Gong to get rid of the meds.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: Flexb on May 22, 2010, 05:54:23 AM
Everyone should get their test levels checked before going that route. Low test contributes to depression and anxiety, something that happens more with aging.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on May 22, 2010, 06:01:41 AM
Depends - if you're really suffering then down with it.
Currently I'm trying Qi Gong to get rid of the meds.

Isn't this kind of thing going to contribute to the downfall of society?

Anyone think these guys were on medication...

We need another great depression, and world war to fix our weakened society!
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: _bruce_ on May 22, 2010, 06:21:24 AM
Hard for me to answer. Maybe all the weak people would get killed within seconds and the world would be better.
Another possibility is that today's gay aura causes many minds to fry and become sick - maybe a tough living would/could heal them?
In my case it's always been some anxiety and aggression - the feeling of having to hold back has been driving me crazy ever since.


Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: ThaRealist on May 22, 2010, 06:24:25 AM
I know a bunch of people on antidepressants...I feel a lot of people are just trying to run away from reality
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: che on May 22, 2010, 06:25:11 AM
I just found out that everyone and their brother take Antidepressants.

WTF?

Do you guys really need this medicine to cope with life?

Someone please explain...


Antidepressants  are for weak minded pussies
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: ShipSekki on May 22, 2010, 06:29:20 AM
 I used to feel ike I needed antidepressents and I was kinda fucked up in the head.

 The real problem was just that make life was out of whack, and I didn't have any mental or emotion discipline or control. I was letting my mind go anyway it wanted without being conscious of it.

 Also I was poor, working shit jobs and living a shitty life in general. As soon as I started stacking up money and living with more financial security it gave me breathing room to relax.

 It's all about mental control, emotional control, and living the proper life.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: Army of One on May 22, 2010, 06:43:35 AM


 The real problem was just that make life was out of whack, and I didn't have any mental or emotion discipline or control. I was letting my mind go anyway it wanted without being conscious of it.



Cosign, read the power of now by Eckhart Tolle, problem is most people are stuck in their minds thinking about the past and future and rehashing old emotions over and over, the second you focus on the NOW and realise its all you ever have you are able to observe your mind and the tricks it plays on you.Basically meditating but 24/7, try it if your sceptical.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 22, 2010, 06:49:50 AM
I just found out that everyone and their brother take Antidepressants.

WTF?

Do you guys really need this medicine to cope with life?

Someone please explain...

PM Disturbia he can tell you all about them.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: ToxicAvenger on May 22, 2010, 06:50:26 AM
no one in my immediate family is on anti depressants...

HOWEVER....my whole extended family living in pakistan is  :-\

they can get them over the counter over there and  (at least in my family) kids get on them (for the most part) around end of high school and stay on thru life...

i know for a fact...all my uncles and aunties and grandma pop em like candy...hell they even take different kinds depending on whether its closer to bed time or if they just woke up

its sad
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: Ex Coelis on May 22, 2010, 07:44:34 AM
maybe they have high levels of body thetans?
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: 240 is Back on May 22, 2010, 09:04:58 AM
the minute you can overcome the demons in your head, you become a MFing warrior.

No challenge in this world can match conquering the beasts in your mind.

Once they are gone, the rest is but details.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: Rami on May 22, 2010, 09:14:08 AM
The internet needs to be shut down, and only whole foods at the grocery store.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: kiwiol on May 22, 2010, 09:14:57 AM
the minute you can overcome the demons in your head, you become a MFing warrior.

No challenge in this world can match conquering the beasts in your mind.

Once they are gone, the rest is but details.

Great post and very true.

Easier said than done, though.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: YngiweRhoads on May 22, 2010, 09:25:41 AM
There's a difference between feeling stressed or sad and actual clinical depression. Docs tend to hand out 'scripts at the drop of a hat every time a patient walks in to their office complaining of the most minute ailment, leading to the overuse of antidepressants, and many other meds, by many people.

Clinical depression is not a sign of personal weakness, or a condition that can be willed away. Clinically depressed people cannot "pull themselves together" and get better. In fact, clinical depression often interferes with a person's ability or wish to get help. Clinical depression is a serious illness that lasts for weeks, months and sometimes years. It may even influence someone to contemplate or attempt suicide.

http://uhs.berkeley.edu/lookforthesigns/clinicaldepression.shtml

In the case of clinical depression, antidepressants constitute a valid form of treatment, which should generally coincide with psychiatric treatment.

Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: dj181 on May 22, 2010, 09:27:09 AM
That was a truly insightful post 240, but the question is how can this be accomplished?
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: johnnynoname on May 22, 2010, 09:58:12 AM
Cumming is my antidepressant
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: SF1900 on May 22, 2010, 09:58:55 AM
There is a HUGE difference between clinically depresses people and the rest of the population who report symptoms of sadness, etc. I think its important to differentiate between exogenous and endogenous factors of depression.

Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: Croatch on May 22, 2010, 10:03:07 AM
Sometimes, life is just too hard.  This is when I'll take some "pick me up" pills, or antidepressants.  It's just hard to cope with reality sometimes.
Especially, when you go to the gym and the other guys are bigger than you are.  This is when I take my "strong" pills, called steroids.  It makes going there tolerable.  I know I'm not the strongest guy or have the best genetics, but when I take these, it really gives me the sense of achieving something there, though I have not.

hahahaha, Fags.  Toughen up buttercup.  All these medications are cheese, same with roids.
BOOSH!
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: Grape Ape on May 22, 2010, 10:32:31 AM
the minute you can overcome the demons in your head, you become a MFing warrior.

No challenge in this world can match conquering the beasts in your mind.

Once they are gone, the rest is but details.

Good stuff dude.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: Wiggs on May 22, 2010, 10:37:35 AM
I was for 5 years I came off in October of last year.  I felt I was using them as a crutch instead of dealing with my problems.  The first couple months was rough after being on for so long.  I feel better than ever, I have feelings again and my creativity is back.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: Tapeworm on May 22, 2010, 10:38:41 AM
I looked into it but didn't care for the sides and syndromes associated with reuptake inhibitors.  I decided not to take anything.

Agree with Flexb, although it might be a chicken/egg thing.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: kiwiol on May 22, 2010, 10:44:52 AM
I was for 5 years I came off in October of last year.  I felt I was using them as a crutch instead of dealing with my problems.  The first couple months was rough after being on for so long.  I feel better than ever, I have feelings again and my creativity is back.

The quality and vibe of your posts / thoughts have indeed improved markedly in the last few months. Subtle changes, but quite distinct.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: johnnynoname on May 22, 2010, 10:48:08 AM
internet porn has taught me one thing and that is Wiggs shouldn't be depressed at all
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 22, 2010, 10:49:43 AM
I heard more people kill themselves on antidepressants than people that dont take them any truth to this?
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: SF1900 on May 22, 2010, 10:53:20 AM
I heard more people kill themselves on antidepressants than people that dont take them any truth to this?

Well, it can definitely increase symptoms. However, I am not too sure about the statistic with regard to more people killing themselves on anti-depressants.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 22, 2010, 10:54:28 AM
Well, it can definitely increase symptoms. However, I am not too sure about the statistic with regard to more people killing themselves on anti-depressants.
We need to get chimps on this he keeps up with numbers.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: Tapeworm on May 22, 2010, 11:06:33 AM
I heard more people kill themselves on antidepressants than people that dont take them any truth to this?

I've heard that but what's the cause - the drug or the depression?

But yes, even drug companies recognize a dangerous phase during the first few weeks of taking SRIs.  I've seen someone go through suicidal phases when her meds get fucked up or counteracted.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 22, 2010, 11:08:27 AM
I've heard that but what's the cause - the drug or the depression?

But yes, even drug companies recognize a dangerous phase during the first few weeks of taking SRIs.  I've seen someone go through suicidal phases when her meds get fucked up or counteracted.
Exactly.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: SF1900 on May 22, 2010, 11:10:00 AM
I've heard that but what's the cause - the drug or the depression?

But yes, even drug companies recognize a dangerous phase during the first few weeks of taking SRIs.  I've seen someone go through suicidal phases when her meds get fucked up or counteracted.

Both. The drug increase symptoms of depression, thus leading to more suicidal tendencies.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: devilsmile on May 22, 2010, 11:25:53 AM
my view on antidepressants

Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: HTexan on May 22, 2010, 11:37:21 AM
I just found out that everyone and their brother take Antidepressants.

WTF?

Do you guys really need this medicine to cope with life?

Someone please explain...

Don't be so quick to judge, anti depressants are a good tool when used right. Some people have low hormones levels and drugs help this medical condition.
If you don't have a medical condition, yes other ways might be a better route.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: TommyBoy on May 22, 2010, 11:43:58 AM
internet porn has taught me one thing and that is Wiggs shouldn't be depressed at all


Truth.

And seriously JNN, did you know your dad? Your way to much like me through your posts and am wondering if my dad did a little swerving on the side.

Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: Croatch on May 22, 2010, 12:27:27 PM
Remember the old days, when people actually worked for their gains and when you encountered a problem feeling sad in life, you either shot yourself or pulled through it.
I like the old days. ;)

The new millennium is filled with pill popping, fake tit, horrid human beings.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on May 22, 2010, 12:30:36 PM
the minute you can overcome the demons in your head, you become a MFing warrior.

No challenge in this world can match conquering the beasts in your mind.

Once they are gone, the rest is but details.

but what if the demons in your head beat you up everytime?
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: Bones on May 22, 2010, 12:43:34 PM
      This may open your eyes.        http://www.newsweek.com/id/232781  (http://www.newsweek.com/id/232781)
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on May 22, 2010, 02:50:40 PM
Remember the old days, when people actually worked for their gains and when you encountered a problem feeling sad in life, you either shot yourself or pulled through it.
I like the old days. ;)

The new millennium is filled with pill popping, fake tit, horrid human beings.

Well said!

I couldn't agree more!!
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: SF1900 on May 22, 2010, 02:52:52 PM
The picture is not always so black-and-white. Very stringent views here, without all the actual evidence.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: HTexan on May 22, 2010, 02:55:32 PM
so people with medical conditions should just kill themselves?  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 22, 2010, 02:58:24 PM
I think Dr Kervorikian is out of prison now looking for work.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: HTexan on May 22, 2010, 03:00:09 PM
I think Dr Kervorikian is out of prison now looking for work.
lol
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: EL Mariachi on May 22, 2010, 03:08:51 PM
I was for 5 years I came off in October of last year.  I felt I was using them as a crutch instead of dealing with my problems.  The first couple months was rough after being on for so long.  I feel better than ever, I have feelings again and my creativity is back.

yes, i can relate to this, dont know how long you been off now?
i got serious withdrawls after 6 months of beeing clean, yes half a year , thats how long those drugs can stay in your liver and organs!
Just be prepared if shit goes down and you cant sleep for days, not to scare you, but just incase. It starts off as ainnocent fly, if you get sick a lot, thats the start.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: 65stew on May 22, 2010, 03:14:57 PM
One good way to tell if a person is clinically depressed as oppossed to having a bad day, feeling sorry for themselves, etc. is that if they're really depressed they get to the point where they don't want to do anything even things considered fun, going on a vacation, hanging out with friends, etc. And yes lower testosterone definately affects mood, unfortuneately I know first hand.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: 240 is Back on May 22, 2010, 03:19:01 PM
"Great post and very true.
Easier said than done, though."


Agreed. 
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on May 25, 2010, 05:53:51 PM
I just found out that everyone and their brother take Antidepressants.

WTF?

Do you guys really need this medicine to cope with life?

Someone please explain...

Anti-depressants(anxiety) medications are ONLY FOR PEOPLE WITH REAL BAD TO SEVERE MENTAL DISORDERS. You are right.............soooo many people are on them, BUT the truth is, many people who are on them simply fake having anxiety/depression, go to thier doc, get a script. The people who do that simply take them to get a " drug high" from the meds. Anxiety/depression are probably the 2 most common mental disorders and anyone can easily FAKE having them. Feeling a little anxious/depressed is absolutely normal BUT having UNPROVOKED ANXIETY ATTACKS basically where they happen for no reason, thats when you need meds. Same with depression, simply where you think of suicide all the time, sleep all day, simply lose interest in living, thats when you need meds. Trust me, theres a big difference in feeling " naturally a little anxious and depressed" and having real bad anxiety/depression.

Anyone who says shit like " oh thats pathetic that you have to depend on a pill to feel better........or man up, and deal with it". OK..........Stop and think about this, what does someone do if they have a real bad headache/migraine???? they take a pill to get rid of it. :o ;) Also, when you have real bad to severe mental disorders, " manning up and just dealing with it" is alot easier said than done. If youve never had/lived with a real bad/severe mental disorder you will never understand what its like living with them.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 25, 2010, 06:34:28 PM
Remember the old days, when people actually worked for their gains and when you encountered a problem feeling sad in life, you either shot yourself or pulled through it.
I like the old days. ;)

The new millennium is filled with pill popping, fake tit, horrid human beings.

And make no mistake about it, tons off accomplished, successful people have offed themselves. It's not just complete losers who do. Also not to forget that while many don't wish to use ADs many self medicate with alcohol or MJ or other drugs. The list of "great" people who also were alcoholics is just too long to post. People weren't tougher in the old days, they just had fewer options.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: HTexan on May 25, 2010, 08:57:28 PM
Old as shit but still:
TWO TOUGH QUESTIONS:

Question 1: If you knew a woman who was pregnant, who had 8 kids already, three who were deaf, two who were blind, one mentally retarded, and she had syphilis; would you recommend that she have an abortion?

Read the next question before scrolling down to the answer of this one.

Question 2: It is time to elect a new world leader, and your vote counts. Here are the facts about the three leading candidates:

Candidate A: Associates with crooked politicians, and consults with astrologists. He's had two mistresses. He also chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day.
Candidate B: He was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in college and drinks a quart of whisky every evening.
Candidate C: He is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks an occasional beer and hasn't had any extramarital affairs.
Which of these candidates would be your choice? Decide first, no peeking, then scroll down for the answer.










Candidate A is Franklin D. Roosevelt
Candidate B is Winston Churchill
Candidate C is Adolph Hitler

And by the way: Answer to the abortion question - if you said yes, you just killed Beethoven.

Pretty interesting isn't it? Makes a person think before judging someone.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: chaos on May 25, 2010, 09:06:12 PM
Old as shit but still:
TWO TOUGH QUESTIONS:

Question 1: If you knew a woman who was pregnant, who had 8 kids already, three who were deaf, two who were blind, one mentally retarded, and she had syphilis; would you recommend that she have an abortion?

Read the next question before scrolling down to the answer of this one.

Question 2: It is time to elect a new world leader, and your vote counts. Here are the facts about the three leading candidates:

Candidate A: Associates with crooked politicians, and consults with astrologists. He's had two mistresses. He also chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day.
Candidate B: He was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in college and drinks a quart of whisky every evening.
Candidate C: He is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks an occasional beer and hasn't had any extramarital affairs.
Which of these candidates would be your choice? Decide first, no peeking, then scroll down for the answer.










Candidate A is Franklin D. Roosevelt
Candidate B is Winston Churchill
Candidate C is Adolph Hitler

And by the way: Answer to the abortion question - if you said yes, you just killed Beethoven.

Pretty interesting isn't it? Makes a person think before judging someone.

This is just dumb.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: Tapeworm on May 25, 2010, 09:10:42 PM
Old as shit but still:
TWO TOUGH QUESTIONS:

Question 1: If you knew a woman who was pregnant, who had 8 kids already, three who were deaf, two who were blind, one mentally retarded, and she had syphilis; would you recommend that she have an abortion?

Read the next question before scrolling down to the answer of this one.

Question 2: It is time to elect a new world leader, and your vote counts. Here are the facts about the three leading candidates:

Candidate A: Associates with crooked politicians, and consults with astrologists. He's had two mistresses. He also chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day.
Candidate B: He was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in college and drinks a quart of whisky every evening.
Candidate C: He is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks an occasional beer and hasn't had any extramarital affairs.
Which of these candidates would be your choice? Decide first, no peeking, then scroll down for the answer.










Candidate A is Franklin D. Roosevelt
Candidate B is Winston Churchill
Candidate C is Adolph Hitler

And by the way: Answer to the abortion question - if you said yes, you just killed Beethoven.

Pretty interesting isn't it? Makes a person think before judging someone.


That's not Beethoven.  He had 2 younger brothers, Karl and someone else, and was insanely overprotective of them.  He was a complete asshole tho and most people he met pretty well wished he had been aborted.  His father was an abusive alcoholic and possibly a philanderer but I don't remember any mention of him bringing home syphilis.  Also never heard of a gaggle of defective older siblings of his, which would be pretty tough to leave out of his bio.  Someone just made that up.
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: brooklynbruiser on May 25, 2010, 09:16:40 PM
Man's nature is to be unhappy. Is it such a surprise that there is such money in not being unhappy?
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: The True Adonis on May 25, 2010, 09:18:54 PM
Old as shit but still:
TWO TOUGH QUESTIONS:

Question 1: If you knew a woman who was pregnant, who had 8 kids already, three who were deaf, two who were blind, one mentally retarded, and she had syphilis; would you recommend that she have an abortion?

Read the next question before scrolling down to the answer of this one.

Question 2: It is time to elect a new world leader, and your vote counts. Here are the facts about the three leading candidates:

Candidate A: Associates with crooked politicians, and consults with astrologists. He's had two mistresses. He also chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day.
Candidate B: He was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in college and drinks a quart of whisky every evening.
Candidate C: He is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks an occasional beer and hasn't had any extramarital affairs.
Which of these candidates would be your choice? Decide first, no peeking, then scroll down for the answer.










Candidate A is Franklin D. Roosevelt
Candidate B is Winston Churchill
Candidate C is Adolph Hitler

And by the way: Answer to the abortion question - if you said yes, you just killed Beethoven.

Pretty interesting isn't it? Makes a person think before judging someone.

The Beethoven part is totally full of rubbish, blatant half-truths and outright lies.

And, for one Hitler was Never married and he had several women at various different times.  Furthermore your little "Two Tough Questions" has been labeled bullshit for years now.  Please NEVER post this again.

http://www.snopes.com/glurge/twoquestions.asp
Title: Re: Antidepressants
Post by: HTexan on May 25, 2010, 11:54:51 PM
The Beethoven part is totally full of rubbish, blatant half-truths and outright lies.

And, for one Hitler was Never married and he had several women at various different times.  Furthermore your little "Two Tough Questions" has been labeled bullshit for years now.  Please NEVER post this again.

http://www.snopes.com/glurge/twoquestions.asp
ThAt the website I got it from. It makes you think tho.