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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: SAMSON123 on May 24, 2010, 04:02:14 PM
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More saber rattling from the hand wringing scum that controls the press in america...I can not stand it. Justification to start a conflict in Korea and the Far East has been on the tongue and hands of america for some time. Little does it realize that this war making will bring war to the shores of america soon enough. As I said earlier...DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU!!!!
Did North Korea Just Start World War III?
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Sinking another country's ship is considered an act of war. Examples include "The Maine", "Lusitania", Pearl Harbor and the Tonkin Gulf. I realize that these were either permitted or "False Flags". Yet, they did provide the pretext for the Spanish American War, World War I, WWII and Vietnam.
North Korea's sinking of a South Korean vessel was also an act of war. Based on the response of the United States and South Korea, it appears to have had the desired effect.
"WASHINGTON - The White House said Monday that President Barack Obama "fully supports" the South Korean president and his response to the torpedo attack by North Korea that sank a South Korean naval ship.
In a statement, the White House said Seoul can continue to count on the full backing of the United States and said U.S. military commanders had been told to work with their South Korean counterparts "to ensure readiness and to deter future aggression."
The administration said it endorsed President Lee Myung-bak's demand that "North Korea immediately apologize and punish those responsible for the attack, and, most importantly, stop its belligerent and threatening behavior."
North Korea is China's "bad cop". Kim Il Sung is a Chinese puppet that won't take his shoes off without consulting with the Chinese. It is safe to conclude that China is behind this latest act of aggression. It is also worth noting that our current Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton and our current President relied on Communist Chinese money to get where they are today. Bill Clinton's generosity towards the Chinese with our military technology and his indifference towards the protestors who died at Tiananmen Square are more than enough evidence of a major "sell-out" to the Chi-coms.
The Republican Party is also in bed with the Communist Chinese through their involvement with Sun Myung Moon and his Unification Church:
"Sun Myung Moon, founder of the Unification Church, says he is the Messiah of the Second Coming and that his family is the first true family in all history! (His followers have been nicknamed "Moonies.") He is also the power behind an international network which includes more than 350 closely affiliated companies worldwide (280 of them in the U.S.), including the Washington Times, the International Cultural Foundation, the Washington Institute for Values and Public Policy, Paragon House Publishers, the Christian Bernard jewelry chain, and Happy World toy and clothing outlets. Other Unification Church' holdings include the following:
* Political groups: American Freedom Coalition, CAUSU USA, CAUSU International, American Leadership Conference, American Constitution Committee, Association for the Unity of Latin America.
* Media organizations: News World Communications, New York City Tribune, Insight Magazine, World Media Association.
* Businesses: One Up Enterprises, U.S. Property Development, International Oceanic Enterprises.
* Religious organizations: 55 principal worship centers (two in California, Texas and New York, one in every other state, D.C., and Puerto Rico), and 206 additional churches" (Source)
While Moon claims he is anti-Communist, he proudly proclaims that Socialism is God's government on earth, built an auto assembly plant in Communist China and maintained close ties with Communist Russia. He has also stated that "The Soviet Union will be at the center of God's providence in the next century." (Ibid)
The Illuminati want the forces of the East to war with the West as part of their population reduction program. It is doubtful that Clinton's visit to China is anything more than a way to determine how this war is to be carried out. This is an interesting prophecy I found from a Mrs. Sols Guardisto made in 1923:
"I saw next international war break out with its center upon the Pacific Ocean, but sweeping and encircling the whole globe. I saw that the opposing forces were roughly divided by so-called Christianity on one side, and by the so-called followers of Mohammed and Buddha upon the other. I saw the great driving power within these so-called Christian Nations was the Great Apostasy in all its political, social, and religious aspects. I saw the world-wide dislocation and devastation of production and slaughter of people occur more swiftly and upon a larger scale than ever before...
I saw the international world war automatically break down, and national revolutions occur in every country and complete the work of chaos and desolation. I saw geological disturbances occur, which helped in this work as if it were intended to do so. I saw the international boundary line disappear as these two governments (Canada-US) broke up and dissolved into chaos. I saw race rioting upon this American continent on a vast scale.
I saw hunger and starvation in this world granary of the American continent sweep off vast numbers of the conflicting elements. I saw disease produced by hunger, strife, and chaos complete the end of this present order or epoch
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This revelation was given in 1923, yet it eerily predicts our current situation and foretells our likely future. War creates hardship and chaos. Chaos leads to violent revolution. The Russian Revolution resulted from the country's involvement in World War I. The French revolution resulted from the ongoing wars between France and England. The American revolution from the same causes.
"Out of Chaos, Order" is the Illuminati mantra. The Phoenix rising up from the ashes of a ruined world. A world destroyed by war and violent revolution. Yet, this time, they will not be able to control the flames they have kindled. The plan of destruction they have so carefully pieced together for humanity will ultimately engulf both them and their minions.
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America just can NOT mind its own business. Does not americas constitution say to stay out of the entanglements of foreign nations? As it stands this is a declaration of WAR that america is playing into that can drag China and even Japan into the fray. War will end up on the shores of america for sure soon...
US backs South Korea in punishing North Korea
AP
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Lee Myung-bak AP South Korean President Lee Myung-bak, left, bows after he delivered a speech at the War Memorial of Korea
By JEAN H. LEE, Associated Press Writer Jean H. Lee, Associated Press Writer 2 hrs 26 mins ago
SEOUL, South Korea South Korea won U.S. support Monday for slashing trade to North Korea and vowed to haul its communist neighbor before the U.N. Security Council for a torpedo attack that sank a South Korean warship and killed 46 sailors.
U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said he expects the Security Council to take action against North Korea, calling the evidence that the North was responsible "overwhelming and deeply troubling."
The U.S. and South Korea are planning two major military exercises off the Korean Peninsula in a display of force intended "to deter future aggression" by North Korea, the White House said.
President Lee Myung-bak laid out the economic and diplomatic measures aimed at striking back at the impoverished North, including halting some trade and taking the regime before the Security Council.
International investigators concluded last week that a torpedo from a North Korean submarine tore apart the warship Cheonan on March 26 in the Yellow Sea off the west coast in one of South Korea's worst military disasters since the 1950-53 Korean War.
Lee said it was another example of "incessant" provocation by North Korea, including a 1983 attack in Myanmar on a South Korean presidential delegation that killed 21 people, and the bombing of an airliner in 1987 that claimed 115 lives.
"We have always tolerated North Korea's brutality, time and again. We did so because we have always had a genuine longing for peace on the Korean peninsula," Lee said in a solemn speech at the War Memorial.
"But now things are different. North Korea will pay a price corresponding to its provocative acts," he said, calling it a "critical turning point" on the tense Korean peninsula, still technically in a state of war because the fighting ended in a truce, not a peace treaty.
The truce prohibits South Korea from waging a unilateral military attack, so Seoul sought to strike at Pyongyang's faltering economy.
Despite their rivalry, South Korea has been Pyongyang's No. 2 trading partner with $1.68 billion in trade in 2009, or about 33 percent of the North's total, according to the Korea Trade-Investment Promotion Agency. China is North Korea's biggest trading partner, with $2.68 billion in commerce last year, the agency said.
South Korea buys shellfish, seafood products, zinc, sand, coal and other products from the North, but those imports will be halted, and North Korean cargo ships will be denied permission to pass through South Korean waters, Unification Minister Hyun In-taek said.
Those measures will cost North Korea about $200 million a year, said Lim Eul-chul, a North Korea expert at South Korea's Kyungnam University.
But the biggest source of trade a joint factory park in the North Korean border town of Kaesong where 110 South Korean firms employ about 42,000 North Koreans will stay open, Hyun said.
The Obama administration endorsed Lee's demand that "North Korea immediately apologize and punish those responsible for the attack, and, most importantly, stop its belligerent and threatening behavior." Seoul can continue to count on the full backing of the United States, it said.
"U.S. support for South Korea's defense is unequivocal, and the president has directed his military commanders to coordinate closely with their Republic of Korea counterparts to ensure readiness and to deter future aggression," the White House said.
Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman did not give a date for the exercises but said they will be in the "near future."
The U.S. has 28,500 troops in South Korea a major sore point for the North as well as 47,000 troops in Japan.
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton was in Beijing conferring with China on a coordinated response. She would not say whether that might include new international sanctions against the North.
"We are working hard to avoid an escalation of belligerence and provocation," Clinton said. "This is a highly precarious situation that the North Koreans have caused in the region."
North Korea has steadfastly denied any role in the ship's sinking. On May 20, naval spokesman Col. Pak In Ho told broadcaster APTN in Pyongyang that any punishment would mean "all-out war."
On Monday, the powerful National Defense Commission criticized Lee's speech as a "clumsy farce," North Korea's official Korean Central News Agency said.
At the U.N., Ban a former South Korean foreign minister said he shares in the international outrage over the sinking of the Cheonan.
"The evidence laid out in the joint international investigation report is overwhelming and deeply troubling. I fully share the widespread condemnation of the incident," Ban told reporters. "I am confident that the council ... will take measures appropriate to the gravity of the situation."
China, Japan, Russia, South Korea and the U.S. have been trying to persuade North Korea to give up its nuclear weapons in talks that Pyongyang quit last year, and Ban said it was "particularly deplorable" the attack occurred while those negotiations are stalled.
Pyongyang disputes the maritime border drawn by U.N. forces at the close of the war, and the Koreas have fought three skirmishes there, most recently in November.
South Korea's military will resume blaring anti-North Korean propaganda back over the border, a sensitive practice suspended in 2004 amid warming ties.
Japanese Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama suggested the heightened tension between the Koreas helped shape his decision to break a campaign promise and keep a key U.S. Marine base in Okinawa, where about half the U.S. troops are stationed.
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who gives a fuck?.....should get interesting.....where there is war, there is opportunity...north korea cant sustain a war anyways......dont believe everything you hear on TV...
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who gives a fuck?.....should get interesting.....where there is war, there is opportunity...north korea cant sustain a war anyways......dont believe everything you hear on TV...
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China has already made it clear it will NOT have america attacking North Korea as China knows america s game and real interest is in getting into China...something it has aspired to do for centuries
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You're hilarious samson!!!
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China has already made it clear it will NOT have america attacking North Korea as China knows america s game and real interest is in getting into China...something it has aspired to do for centuries
continue believing what you hear on TV.....one day, get in the trenches and hear, and see the truth...
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You're hilarious samson!!!
Wise men have always been laughed to ridicule until what they say comes true.
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Wise men have always been laughed to ridicule until what they say comes true.
dumb asses with ct's have always been laughed at and ridiculed too b/c 99.99% of the time they are dumb asses with ct's... ;)
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dumb asses with ct's have always been laughed at and ridiculed too b/c 99.99% of the time they are dumb asses with ct's... ;)
Thank you TWO TOES...coming from you it is not even worthy enough to wipe my ass with it...
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Thank you TWO TOES...coming from you it is not even worthy enough to wipe my ass with it...
I talked to the high ups in the illuminati today youll be happy to hear i talked them out of what they wanted to do to you...youre welcome
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Thank you TWO TOES...coming from you it is not even worthy enough to wipe my ass with it...
Nice new avatar and statement below, Jag.
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Samson, I really don't think so. N. Korea couldn't handle the USA, it would need China, and the last thing China neither wants nor needs (at this time) is a war with the USA. that's not to say that China wouldn't one day want to do just that... I just don't think they're ready to do it just yet... and despite appearances to the contrary, Americans realize they just cannot afford war on yet another front.
Funny, I have to hear about any of this on the news. they've been focusing on the all out military sytle attack in Jamaica. Seems there a huge drug dealer the USA wants extradited, and a whole bunch of rival gangs armed with paramilitary weapons came after the police I guess trying to either bust him out or avoid the extradition. in any event, it looks like a war zone, and the Canadian government is issuing a travel advisory warning Canadians not to travel to Kingston Jamaica.
International news starts in a bit. We'll see if they mention the Korean standoff.
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Who wants to go to the South Bronx w palm trees anyway?
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Who wants to go to the South Bronx w palm trees anyway?
Little difference between Westchester and the South Bronx 3...
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From where I live, its literally a five minute ride or 4 stops on the Number 4.
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The North has done worse, I wouldn't say far worse, but worse...without starting a war. This is what the midget does. The only thing China does not want is US troops on its border and a million starving refugee's. The Chinese will close its borders with the North. Should US troops conduct military operations north of the 38th parallel, I think China will invade south a few hundered miles to create a buffer zone. We won't go north of the capital. Obama will be forced to honor the treaties and mutual defense pacts we've had since 1953. I've conducted numerous wargames in South Korea...it will take 30 days to mount offensive ops north of the 38th and an additional 30 days to incircle the capital. It remains to be seen how much the North will employ chemical weapons and then what we'll do.
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The North has done worse, I wouldn't say far worse, but worse...without starting a war. This is what the midget does. The only thing China does not want is US troops on its border and a million starving refugee's. The Chinese will close its borders with the North. Should US troops conduct military operations north of the 38th parallel, I think China will invade south a few hundered miles to create a buffer zone. We won't go north of the capital. Obama will be forced to honor the treaties and mutual defense pacts we've had since 1953. I've conducted numerous wargames in South Korea...it will take 30 days to mount offensive ops north of the 38th and an additional 30 days to incircle the capital. It remains to be seen how much the North will employ chemical weapons and then what we'll do.
Did you use a Tandy 8000 in these simulations?
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I can't help but like this guy... ;D ;D
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Nice coat....
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Anyone who can drink alcohol all day, bang broads at will, watch porno all the time, and play around w guns and do whatever he wants sounds pretty cool to me.
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Anyone who can drink alcohol all day, bang broads at will, watch porno all the time, and play around w guns and do whatever he wants sounds pretty cool to me.
have you been watching me? fucking creeper.
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HELL NO!
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I can't help but like this guy... ;D ;D
(http://moneyteachers.org/images/northkorea.jpg)
Nice coat....
Why don't these people revolt and take their country back? To starved and weak? He keeps his top leaders happy?
Hows it work? ???
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Why don't these people revolt and take their country back? To starved and weak? He keeps his top leaders happy?
Hows it work? ???
Too starved and weak, for starters. The military actually eats very well. The people don't have the means, money, or training to fight back against the military. He's actually got a pretty good system for oppression of the populace going. Iran's probably taking pointers.
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Why don't these people revolt and take their country back? To starved and weak? He keeps his top leaders happy?
Hows it work? ???
The same way it has worked in the US. :D
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Why don't these people revolt and take their country back? To starved and weak? He keeps his top leaders happy?
Hows it work? ???
Total media control, "feed" them only 1-2 hours of TV a day, one channel, obviously state controlled, seal off ANY outside information, no radio, no TV, no internet, no newspapers, feed them patriotic messages everyday, make any free country and their values look evil,detain, incarcerate or execute whomever talks anything bad about the leader( or worse, detain their families and punish them for the "crimes" committed by one their family members) have a secret police where your neighbour or your best friend might be an informant rat on you for a loaf of bread....stuff like that,pretty simple. You guys have NO IDEA what it REALLY means to live in society like that. It's pretty scary ..... :o
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The same way it has worked in the US. :D
I would expect this from a canadian I know your colleges suck up there... ;)
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Total media control, "feed" them only 1-2 hours of TV a day, one channel, obviously state controlled, seal off ANY outside information, no radio, no TV, no internet, no newspapers, feed them patriotic messages everyday, make any free country and their values look evil,detain, incarcerate or execute whomever talks anything bad about the leader( or worse, detain their families and punish them for the "crimes" committed by one their family members) have a secret police where your neighbour or your best friend might be an informant rat on you for a loaf of bread....stuff like that,pretty simple. You guys have NO IDEA what it REALLY means to live in society like that. It's pretty scary ..... :o
What communist country did you used to live in?
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What communist country did you used to live in?
I don't think that's relevant but I'll tell you one thing growing up there was like growing up in a fukin prison.....it sucked big time! ;D