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Title: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: Captain Equipoise on May 25, 2010, 09:04:31 AM
Invest some of the crazy money it earns per show back into the programme and create an visual/audio like Pride did?!!

instead all these lame fuckers can focus on is how to fit more sponsors logos into the octagon before they start overlapping.. wouldn't it be cool if the top MMA fight promotion had a real kick ass entrance, ramp, themes, music, lighting, etc. ?!!? It couldn't possibly be that much more to do, instead we get the same mediocre shit for every event.
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: Fury on May 25, 2010, 09:11:03 AM
The UFC pays out roughly 1-3% of the revenue made on a card in fighter salaries and the rest goes into Dana White and Co.'s dirty pockets. They're concerned with their bottom line and only their bottom line. Anything that costs extra money has next to no chance of happening.  :-\
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: WeightPSHR on May 25, 2010, 09:19:00 AM
IMO because this would take up too much time on broadcasts. They would rather air more fights and this adding these circus shows would make it very unpredictable as to how much time to allow.
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: MindSpin on May 25, 2010, 09:20:15 AM
Invest some of the crazy money it earns per show back into the programme and create an visual/audio like Pride did?!!

instead all these lame fuckers can focus on is how to fit more sponsors logos into the octagon before they start overlapping.. wouldn't it be cool if the top MMA fight promotion had a real kick ass entrance, ramp, themes, music, lighting, etc. ?!!? It couldn't possibly be that much more to do, instead we get the same mediocre shit for every event.


You should watch the WWE bro.  They do all of that shit there.  For me, I would be pissed if any of my PPV time was wasted on stupid shit like that.  I like MMA for the sport, not the hype and BS.  I rather them do what they do.  Use the extra time to fit in some of the good prelims.


The UFC pays out roughly 1-3% of the revenue made on a card in fighter salaries and the rest goes into Dana White and Co.'s dirty pockets. They're concerned with their bottom line and only their bottom line. Anything that costs extra money has next to no chance of happening.  :-\

Really?  Did you get a look at their balance sheet?  moron ::)
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: WeightPSHR on May 25, 2010, 09:22:03 AM
The UFC pays out roughly 1-3% of the revenue made on a card in fighter salaries and the rest goes into Dana White and Co.'s dirty pockets. They're concerned with their bottom line and only their bottom line. Anything that costs extra money has next to no chance of happening.  :-\

How are they growing the org/UFC then? Please post a source showing these 1-3% numbers are accurate.
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: MindSpin on May 25, 2010, 09:25:17 AM
How are they growing the org/UFC then? Please post a source showing these 1-3% numbers are accurate.


According to BF, the UFC is just growing by magic.  There is no money being invested in promotion, marketing, licensing, sanctioning, etc.  ::)
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: Fury on May 25, 2010, 09:25:55 AM
Did you seriously just make the same exact post on your main account and gimmick within 2 minutes of each other? You're not even trying to hide it at this point. Pretty embarrassing for a 40 year old man. :-\
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: Captain Equipoise on May 25, 2010, 09:28:02 AM
Part of the reason I posed this question is because of the owners (Fertita brothers) made their money in Vegas with Casino's which are all about flash, lights, neons, audio/visual presentations and so on, it seemed logical to me that they would spruce up the live show and make it fun to watch not the same lame ass shitfest it's always been.

That was part of what made Pride so amazing, the electricity, the crazy light shows, big themed entrances down a ramp it was just cool, has nothing to do with WWE type shit, that's ok mindspin we know you still think wrasslin's real  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: MindSpin on May 25, 2010, 09:29:12 AM
oh brother ::)  

I'm neither 40 or the other account.  You're a sad individual.
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: Fury on May 25, 2010, 09:30:24 AM
oh brother ::)  

I'm neither 40 or the other account.  You're a sad individual.

It's nothing short of miraculous that you both consistently manage to pop up at the same time. Sorry that you don't possess the intellectual capacity to hide your gimmick.  :-\

The UFC's shows reek of WWE influence as it is.
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: WeightPSHR on May 25, 2010, 09:30:57 AM
Did you seriously just make the same exact post on your main account and gimmick within 2 minutes of each other? You're not even trying to hide it at this point. Pretty embarrassing for a 40 year old man. :-\

Why don't you post proof of your numbers....you owe it to us.
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: MindSpin on May 25, 2010, 09:31:59 AM
Part of the reason I posed this question is because of the owners (Fertita brothers) made their money in Vegas with Casino's which are all about flash, lights, neons, audio/visual presentations and so on, it seemed logical to me that they would spruce up the live show and make it fun to watch not the same lame ass shitfest it's always been.

That was part of what made Pride so amazing, the electricity, the crazy light shows, big themed entrances down a ramp it was just cool, has nothing to do with WWE type shit, that's ok mindspin we know you still think wrasslin's real  ::)  ::)

That's were people like me preferred the UFC over Pride.  Pride was too much like the WWE.  They even made up fake bios for their fighters.  Do you remember how Rampage was supposedly a homeless guy that Pride found on the streets and then they brought him to fight?  That's just not what I like about MMA.  I love the sport and enjoy the fights.  The rest is all a bunch of nonsense to me.
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: WeightPSHR on May 25, 2010, 09:33:57 AM
It's nothing short of miraculous that you both consistently manage to pop up at the same time. Sorry that you don't possess the intellectual capacity to hide your gimmick.  :-\

Quit making excuses. Post your proof of your numbers.

I am not MS....but who gives a shit. There are plenty of gimmicks on here.

Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: Captain Equipoise on May 25, 2010, 09:35:16 AM
That's were people like me preferred the UFC over Pride.  Pride was too much like the WWE.  They even made up fake bios for their fighters.  Do you remember how Rampage was supposedly a homeless guy that Pride found on the streets and then they brought him to fight?  That's just not what I like about MMA.  I love the sport and enjoy the fights.  The rest is all a bunch of nonsense to me.

LOL, yeah I do remember that... the Japs tend to do a little overboard on everything..  :-\
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: Fury on May 25, 2010, 09:38:24 AM
Quit making excuses. Post your proof of your numbers.

I am not MS....but who gives a shit. There are plenty of gimmicks on here.



Do the math yourself, Yemeni. Simple arithmetic isn't hard. I'll even walk you through a rudimentary analysis of it. Take the PPV purchase price and multiply it by the number of purchases. Then add up the salaries of the fighters (these are released) and then calculate the percentage of PPV revenues generated that were paid out in salaries. This ignores things like revenue generated through the gate and other things, but you won't find the UFC paying more than 1-3% on almost every card. Bringing up things like licensing fees and what not doesn't mean shit because we're talking about REVENUE, not profits.

Now please move along you embarrassing TUF fanboy.
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: MindSpin on May 25, 2010, 09:39:52 AM
It's nothing short of miraculous that you both consistently manage to pop up at the same time. Sorry that you don't possess the intellectual capacity to hide your gimmick.  :-\


As usual, the facts show that you are wrong :-\  The stats below show we post at different times and on different boars...
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: Fury on May 25, 2010, 09:41:46 AM
As usual, the facts show that you are wrong :-\  The stats below show we post at different times and on different boars...


Bahaha, those graphs are almost identical. The curve is almost the same. The only thing that shows is that you spend more time on your Mindspin account than your WeightPSHR. You two consistently pop up at the same exact time, like you did just now. I'm sorry that you're incapable of covering it up.

I can't believe you just posted that and actually thought it exonerated you. What a moron. LOL.
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: WeightPSHR on May 25, 2010, 09:42:24 AM
Do the math yourself, Yemeni. Simple arithmetic isn't hard. I'll even walk you through a rudimentary analysis of it. Take the PPV purchase price and multiply it by the number of purchases. Then add up the salaries of the fighters (these are released) and then calculate the percentage of PPV revenues generated that were paid out in salaries. This ignores things like revenue generated through the gate and other things, but you won't find the UFC paying more than 1-3% on almost every card. Bringing up things like licensing fees and what not doesn't mean shit because we're talking about REVENUE, not profits.

Now please move along you embarrassing TUF fanboy.

It will now be assumed that everything you post is entirely fictional and completely baseless. You had your chance.
You spend more time on here back pedaling and calling people names. Why don't you prove yourself?

Find proof or go back to watching your PRIDE DVD's that ZUFFA so happens to own.

 
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: MindSpin on May 25, 2010, 09:45:46 AM
Do the math yourself, Yemeni. Simple arithmetic isn't hard. I'll even walk you through a rudimentary analysis of it. Take the PPV purchase price and multiply it by the number of purchases. Then add up the salaries of the fighters (these are released) and then calculate the percentage of PPV revenues generated that were paid out in salaries. This ignores things like revenue generated through the gate and other things, but you won't find the UFC paying more than 1-3% on almost every card. Bringing up things like licensing fees and what not doesn't mean shit because we're talking about REVENUE, not profits.

Now please move along you embarrassing TUF fanboy.

Who cares what they pay the fighters.  If the UFC went away tomorrow, most of those guys would still fight for peanuts.  You said Dana puts the rest in his pocket...prove it.
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: Fury on May 25, 2010, 09:46:47 AM
LOL! Funny how ridiculously similar these two accounts are for supposedly being two different people. What a fool.
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on May 25, 2010, 09:49:33 AM
Those do look pretty similar.
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: MindSpin on May 25, 2010, 09:50:35 AM
you don't know how to read graphs do you :-\
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: Fury on May 25, 2010, 09:53:41 AM
you don't know how to read graphs do you :-\

Spin it anyway you want but those account posting times are eerily similar. The curves were just to make it easier to see the similarities. Of course they won't be identical, but it's pretty amusing that two supposedly different people post at nearly identical times.  :)
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: Fury on May 25, 2010, 10:15:30 AM
Haha, and now they both stop posting at the same time. This is too good.
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: MindSpin on May 25, 2010, 10:22:24 AM
I'm still here.  Let's play a game shall we?  If I provide you with irrefutable proof that I have no gimmick accounts on GB, including weightpusher, you get permanently exiled from the board (all of GB).  If I can't, then I will voluntarily banish myself.  Deal?
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: Fury on May 25, 2010, 10:24:27 AM
Oh brother, here we go. Trying to set me up like you did Sarcasm. No thanks.

I know from first-hand experience how easy it is to cover a gimmick's tracks. Would be even easier if I were in your position and not just a regular member.
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: MindSpin on May 25, 2010, 10:31:09 AM
::)
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: Fury on May 25, 2010, 10:32:24 AM
::)

And you think it's not? We have a few Getdumbers running half a dozen gimmick accounts that Ron is convinced are legitimate posters. It's not hard to do.

However, I'm not going to walk into your trap like you managed to make Sarcasm do.
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: WeightPSHR on May 25, 2010, 11:20:56 AM
And you think it's not? We have a few Getdumbers running half a dozen gimmick accounts that Ron is convinced are legitimate posters. It's not hard to do.

However, I'm not going to walk into your trap like you managed to make Sarcasm do.

Backing down huh? If your so sure make the bet.



Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on May 25, 2010, 12:21:33 PM
Backing down huh? If your so sure make the bet.

Those words are pretty funny coming from a coward.
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: WeightPSHR on May 25, 2010, 12:31:04 PM
Those words are pretty funny coming from a coward.

This has nothing to do with me, other then him accusing me of being a MS gimmick.

Do what's best and back the fuck off....I already put an epic owning on you. Thought you learned your lesson.

You already have a reminder of what I did to you every time you see my name....

Do we need to keep this going? Really now...think about it.

Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on May 25, 2010, 12:40:09 PM
This has nothing to do with me, other then him accusing me of being a MS gimmick.

Do what's best and back the fuck off....I already put an epic owning on you. Thought you learned your lesson.

You already have a reminder of what I did to you every time you see my name....

Do we need to keep this going? Really now...think about it.

You pussed out of a bet and kept pretending it wasn't on the table by posting novels worth of excuses in order to change the subject.  All I see everytime you post is a picture from my collection that you said didn't exist, thanks for the homage, like I said, I'm honored.  Instead of changing your sig, you changed your avatar, I'm still flattered though.
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: WeightPSHR on May 25, 2010, 01:07:11 PM
You pussed out of a bet and kept pretending it wasn't on the table by posting novels worth of excuses in order to change the subject.  All I see everytime you post is a picture from my collection that you said didn't exist, thanks for the homage, like I said, I'm honored.  Instead of changing your sig, you changed your avatar, I'm still flattered though.

Are you referring to the bet that you created after I said you didn't have any MMA trinkets.

There is nothing to prove on here you idiot. This is just the internet. Post whatever you want. It don't mean shit LOL.

You fell for it and thought you were going to prove something. What exactly did you prove? That you have some pics? Even if they are yours, you are an idiot for getting so worked up that you posted them after I called you out. Taking the bait once again.

Now you have a permanent reminder everytime you see my name ;D
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: FREAKgeek on May 25, 2010, 03:27:19 PM
(http://api.ning.com/files/9a*QNo5bU*4bL2oKwqeS-bShFYrtX-keOWJmen51en1XEaar3rlXeWsrb3KM0VaIfq6DXVWcqkYApDNrbaHxpK2dy5Dy6LB*/danaandbabybl.jpg)
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: MindSpin on May 25, 2010, 03:31:11 PM
ha ha ha hah ahahah!!!
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: FREAKgeek on May 25, 2010, 03:37:40 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: WeightPSHR on May 25, 2010, 04:02:45 PM
Brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Why doesn't the UFC...
Post by: AC Slater on May 26, 2010, 09:58:20 PM
i started a thread exactly like this about 2 weeks ago.  ufc shows are elementary at best.  pride had awesome entrances and a cool theme song.