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Three Presidents did it, yet we never hear about it
I FOUND THIS TO BE VERY INTERESTING.
I WONDER WHY IT WAS NEVER BROUGHT UP.
What did Hoover, Truman, and Eisenhower have in common?
Back during The Great Depression, President Herbert Hoover ordered the deportation of ALL illegal aliens in order to make jobs available to American citizens that desperately needed work..
Harry Truman deported over two million Illegal's after WWII to create jobs for returning veterans'.
And then again in 1954, President Dwight Eisenhower deported 13 million Mexican Nationals! The program was called 'Operation Wetback'. It was done so WWII and Korean Veterans would have a better chance at jobs. It took 2 Years, but they deported them!
Now...if they could deport the illegal's back then - they could sure do it today.
lf you have doubts about the veracity of this information, enter Operation Wetback into your favorite search engine and confirm it for yourself.
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George S Patton dealt with illegals the old fashioned way. Look it up.
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Good find James. Too bad our current president is in favor of amnesty instead of deportation.
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The communist street agitator is now out there applauding the Los Suns for the jerseys they wore.
Typical of a street agitator.
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nedds to be done again cause legal americans are getting squeezed more and more each day mean while illegals get our tax money and jobs
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catch em, kneecap them, deport them.
Then, police in AZ will only have to ID those with a noticable limp.
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In the stupid world of "PC" no one has the balls to do whats needed.
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Good find James. Too bad our current president is in favor of amnesty instead of deportation.
During the election, Obama had a very firm almost draconian position AGAINST illegal immigration while McCain favoured Amnesty. Now, after the election, it looks like the monied interests have caused Obama's position against illegal immigration to somewhat soften, ...either that or he's had his hands full with much more pressing matters... like a couple of wars on two different front, an economy in the toilet etc., etc.,
btw - Previous admins didn't just deport illegals. they rounded up anyone of hispanic blood American or not and shipped them out. they also fostered racial environments that caused many American born to simply leave the country. People who experience that on foreign shores often find their way to North America as political refugees. I don't know about the rest of you, ...but I don't think it's a very good thing when people leave their country for fear of racial or ethnic persecution. Could possibly be why these "achievements" are not trumpeted more in your history books.
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During the election, Obama had a very firm almost draconian position AGAINST illegal immigration while McCain favoured Amnesty. Now, after the election, it looks like the monied interests have caused Obama's position against illegal immigration to somewhat soften, ...either that or he's had his hands full with much more pressing matters... like a couple of wars on two different front, an economy in the toilet etc., etc.,
btw - Previous admins didn't just deport illegals. they rounded up anyone of hispanic blood American or not and shipped them out. they also fostered racial environments that caused many American born to simply leave the country. People who experience that on foreign shores often find their way to North America as political refugees. I don't know about the rest of you, ...but I don't think it's a very good thing when people leave their country for fear of racial or ethnic persecution. Could possibly be why these "achievements" are not trumpeted more in your history books.
but I thought the US was full of racists as it is...so why are these immigrants coming and staying? ::)
obama wasnt to busy to focus on health care for a year neglecting the economy was he? focused on gitmo pretty good? not to busy to spend time campaigning for liberal politicians is he? LMAO ::)
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but I thought the US was full of racists as it is...so why are these immigrants coming and staying? ::)
dealing with racism sucks, ...but having a depleted uranium bomb land on your house while you're in it sucks even worse. ;D
obama wasnt to busy to focus on health care for a year neglecting the economy was he? focused on gitmo pretty good? not to busy to spend time campaigning for liberal politicians is he? LMAO ::)
nope he wasn't too busy to focus on health care. Lucky for you guys!
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btw - Previous admins didn't just deport illegals. they rounded up anyone of hispanic blood American or not and shipped them out.
Source please.
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The original GSP took care of shit on the border.
George St. Pierre has nothing on George S. Patton.
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Source please.
the annals of US history. Look it up.
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lol
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the annals of US history. Look it up.
Ah, another bullshit claim from you. No surprise here.
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Ah, another bullshit claim from you. No surprise here.
If it makes you feel better... go for it.
The only question I have is 'Is it that you're really that ignorant about your own history?
...or is it that you think everyone else is, and you'd like to keep it that way? ???
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Ah, another bullshit claim from you. No surprise here.
dont hold it against her skip she is from canada and you know about the colleges they have up there so take it easy...
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dont hold it against her skip she is from canada and you know about the colleges they have up there so take it easy...
Great point, Tony. I have been trying to keep an open mind though. I've been toying around with her style - you know, making shit up, lying, feeble attempts at making my internet persona appear larger than life.
In this thread, I'm claiming to bench 1280:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=331516.50
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i think jag and samson are the same person , one is a gimmick account to try to back up the things said by the other
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i think jag and samson are the same person , one is a gimmick account to try to back up the things said by the other
Oh puleaze!!! ::)
And you believe this because the allegation has been repeated over & over again by the board trolls,
...or because you've seen evidence of this yourself?
Someone whose account is only 1 month old has no business making declarations about posters who have been posting here for years. You have no credibility or basis for such opinion.
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You point out that I must say this cause it has been said at some point before, then you point out that I have only been on here a month. That doesn't really add up ! Hopefully you didn't think much before saying that!
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I have never read where anyone said that, as you so kindly pointed out, I have only been on here about a month. Thats just what I think after reading the posts from your accounts.
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It takes all of 20 seconds to look these facts up, and they indeed did happen. However, they weren't exactly as cut and dry as the Op would lend you to believe. A lot of legal citizens were deported and quite a bit of public backlash ensued afterward. Scare tactics, intimidation and raids on public and private properties were commonly used to round up anyone who was Mexican.
I certainly agree that they need a much harder line on illegals, of any origin, but definitely not a repeat of these incidents.
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It takes all of 20 seconds to look these facts up, and they indeed did happen. However, they weren't exactly as cut and dry as the Op would lend you to believe. A lot of legal citizens were deported and quite a bit of public backlash ensued afterward. Scare tactics, intimidation and raids on public and private properties were commonly used to round up anyone who was Mexican.
I certainly agree that they need a much harder line on illegals, of any origin, but definitely not a repeat of these incidents.
Finally, ...someone who is at least familiar with the history of his own country.
Skippy, my unwillingness to look up source info for you is not an indication that I've lied or made it all up, it simply means I can't be bothered to spend my time educating you. I'll leave that to anyone else who wants to do that, ...and I'll leave it up to those who actually want to know the truth to do their own research. The rest can continue to stroke their own egos... or any other parts they feel like stroking. :D
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George S Patton dealt with illegals the old fashioned way. Look it up.
And Patton was dealt with the old fashioned way as well...
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?id=9868
Your little heros are NOT what and who you think they are 3, read THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN to learn about Europes and Americans past and leaders...IT IS SHOCKING to say the least
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Finally, ...someone who is at least familiar with the history of his own country.
Skippy, my unwillingness to look up source info for you is not an indication that I've lied or made it all up, it simply means I can't be bothered to spend my time educating you. I'll leave that to anyone else who wants to do that, ...and I'll leave it up to those who actually want to know the truth to do their own research. The rest can continue to stroke their own egos... or any other parts they feel like stroking. :D
That's it. Keep showing the world that 160 65 IQ.
He/She is not backing up your bullshit claim, idiot.
Please provide a source to back up your dumbass, nonsense claim that:
btw - Previous admins didn't just deport illegals. they rounded up anyone of hispanic blood American or not and shipped them out.
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Three Presidents did it, yet we never hear about it
I FOUND THIS TO BE VERY INTERESTING.
I WONDER WHY IT WAS NEVER BROUGHT UP.
What did Hoover, Truman, and Eisenhower have in common?
Back during The Great Depression, President Herbert Hoover ordered the deportation of ALL illegal aliens in order to make jobs available to American citizens that desperately needed work..
Harry Truman deported over two million Illegal's after WWII to create jobs for returning veterans'.
And then again in 1954, President Dwight Eisenhower deported 13 million Mexican Nationals! The program was called 'Operation Wetback'. It was done so WWII and Korean Veterans would have a better chance at jobs. It took 2 Years, but they deported them!
Now...if they could deport the illegal's back then - they could sure do it today.
lf you have doubts about the veracity of this information, enter Operation Wetback into your favorite search engine and confirm it for yourself.
Three times? Dang! And why do you still have an illegal immigration problem? Obviously it did not work, but it costs the US lots of money to detain and deport these people just so they can come right back, and many legal immigrants and US citizens were deported too in the process.
"Most high school students in the USA probably don't know that tens of thousands of Mexican-Americans — many of them legal residents or even U.S. citizens — were forcibly sent to Mexico during the depths of the Depression. That's because few history books even mention it."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2006-04-04-history-books_x.htm
Funny how this anti-immigration sentiment, and operations such as the above and such as the new Arizona law seem to surface during a recession. Angry, desperate people just fabricate a common enemy to blame and to hate, and the politicians use this to their advantage and to divert attention from their own mismanagement of the country.
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Source please.
http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/OO/pqo1.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1403814/posts
http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/05-06/bill/sen/sb_0651-0700/sb_670_cfa_20050902_130859_sen_floor.html
Not that hard, is it?
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According to Wikipedia it was 1 million, not 13 million.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback)
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Three times? Dang! And why do you still have an illegal immigration problem? Obviously it did not work, but it costs the US lots of money to detain and deport these people just so they can come right back, and many legal immigrants and US citizens were deported too in the process.
"Most high school students in the USA probably don't know that tens of thousands of Mexican-Americans — many of them legal residents or even U.S. citizens — were forcibly sent to Mexico during the depths of the Depression. That's because few history books even mention it."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2006-04-04-history-books_x.htm
Funny how this anti-immigration sentiment, and operations such as the above and such as the new Arizona law seem to surface during a recession. Angry, desperate people just fabricate a common enemy to blame and to hate, and the politicians use this to their advantage and to divert attention from their own mismanagement of the country.
Why merely highlight and include a link? You know most are simply too lazy to click it.
Some stories hard to get in history books
By Kasie Hunt, USA TODAY Updated 4/5/2006 1:36 AM
Most high school students in the USA probably don't know that tens of thousands of Mexican-Americans — many of them legal residents or even U.S. citizens — were forcibly sent to Mexico during the depths of the Depression. That's because few history books even mention it.
Related story: U.S. urged to apologize for deportations
A USA TODAY survey of the nine American history textbooks most commonly used in middle schools and high schools found that four don't mention the deportations at all. Only one devotes more than half a page to the topic.
For social activists, textbooks are the most important vehicle for trying to raise awareness about controversial or sensitive periods in U.S. history — "the issues that I didn't learn in school," says Greg Marutani, who heads the education committee of the Japanese American Citizens League. His group tries to increase awareness among students of the internment of Japanese-Americans during World War II by developing curriculum guides and holding seminars for teachers.
According to the survey, the nine textbooks devote a total of 18 pages to the internment issue, compared with two pages on the coerced Mexican-American emigration.
While textbooks are critical in shaping public understanding of issues, changing textbooks isn't easy.
"Most histories are designed to make people feel good" about their country, says John Womack, a history professor at Harvard University. He says people of Mexican ancestry were coerced into leaving the United States in the 1930s because many small border-state towns, hit with a scarcity of jobs, were "thoroughly racist." But he says it is difficult to put such negative comments into textbooks that states purchase for their schools.
Financial realities also make change difficult. "Once a textbook enters a classroom, it stays there for a number of years," says Gilbert Sewall, director of the American Textbook Council, because schools invest a significant amount of money in a set of books. Sewall says a list of the most popular high school textbooks changes "glacially."
Bureaucracy is another factor slowing the pace. Curriculum guidelines are written by state education departments, and each state maintains its own list of approved textbooks. No single agency can change textbooks. "There has never been a federal mandate on textbook content," Sewall says. "It's a state issue" that would have to be dealt with one state capital at a time.
Even if a state takes an official position on an controversial topic, actually getting the issue into textbooks can be complicated. In January, California formally apologized to Mexican-Americans for the Depression-era deportations. However, high schools in California — unlike middle schools — are not required to select books from a state-approved list.
The federal government provides funding for independent educational projects, which can have a trickle-down effect. In 1988, when Congress formally apologized to Japanese-Americans over internment and paid $20,000 per person in reparations, it also created the Civil Liberties Public Education Fund. The fund dispensed $3.3 million aimed at raising public awareness of the issue.
Dale Shimasaki, executive director of the fund until it expired in 1998, says one law school's curriculum project assembled a legal text on the topic, and a project at the University of Arkansas created a curriculum now required for all of the state's seventh- and eighth-graders.
Shimasaki says a similar project could help Mexican-Americans raise awareness about the deportation issue. "The parallels are very striking and very eerie," he says.
The Japanese American Citizens League's Marutani says both groups still have work to do. "We have achieved what we need to if someone said to a high school grad, 'Can you name some examples where the U.S. government mistreated its citizens?' and they could answer correctly," he says.
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According to Wikipedia it was 1 million, not 13 million.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback)
Wikipedia could hardly be considered the definitive or authoritative voice on this or any other issue.
This is part 1 of a 6 part series on what you don't know about Wikipedia