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Real questions Coach. How would having a Republican president make the situation any different? I mean the military or government don't have equipment to cap a oil well so they obviously can't help. They didn't have it when Bush was in, so what would they do? Has Rush ever come up with any solutions on his show on how to stop it?
jt
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bush had/has 25$M in oil holdings. you do the math, saw what happen when a can of lube was a streak in iraq? he'd come down on BP like bunker busters on iraq troops.
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bush had/has 25$M in oil holdings. you do the math, saw what happen when a can of lube was a streak in iraq? he'd come down on BP like bunker busters on iraq troops.
still, what would make the situation different? BP can be pushed as much as you want, but they have showed their lack of success in capping this to be near 100% failure every time. So that being said, what would have Bush done to make them cap the leak?
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Are there are many Jews in the oil business? They are heavily involved in media, banking, the legal system and the medical professions (basically things involving money and power) but how about oil? Just curious.
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Are there are many Jews in the oil business? They are heavily involved in media, banking, the legal system and the medical professions (basically things involving money and power) but how about oil? Just curious.
Oil=More Arabs, Africans, South Americans, and Texans than Jews.
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still, what would make the situation different? BP can be pushed as much as you want, but they have showed their lack of success in capping this to be near 100% failure every time. So that being said, what would have Bush done to make them cap the leak?
Bush + Chaney = Halliburton = They find away to get it done when a 10 figure non-competition govt contract is at steak. Maybe Obama's advisers need to drop that dime on him.
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It would be the same situation. The laws are written where the federal government cannot intervene in the event of an oil spill
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Bush Jr. would have simply taken a swim in the polluted waters. His oily hide would have absorbed the spill like a Sham-Wow.
Obama needs to enlist the Navy’s help. They are equipped to handle underwater ops at that depth.
BP knows what needs to be done, but they lack the means to do it.
Working together, they could likely find a solution.
However, Obama has no understanding of (or use for) our military and is just as big an ass-wipe as “Jr.”
Environmental restrictions require drilling no closer than 65 mi. from shore. That puts them roughly a mile down.
This spill would have been contained long before now if drilling in shallower waters.
But the liberal eco-tards will never understand that their asshole restrictions contributed in a major way to the severity of this problem.
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It would be the same situation. The laws are written where the federal government cannot intervene in the event of an oil spill
i stand my ground. Halliburton, its' contractors and their equipment would be mobilized with Baby Bush in office because this is turning into a national problem. If he can jimmy up the numbers for a WMD war...then an oil spill is child's play. You are fool Vince.
Too many barrels at steak.
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nobody knows more about petroleum-based products then jtcumonme
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The navy does not have the capability to fix it they already said that. Do you get your news from rush ? :-)
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Real questions Coach. How would having a Republican president make the situation any different? I mean the military or government don't have equipment to cap a oil well so they obviously can't help. They didn't have it when Bush was in, so what would they do? Has Rush ever come up with any solutions on his show on how to stop it?
jt
Gone over this alrready in another post......
How about start working to clean up the shores and protect jobs and business and surrounding environment in marshes? That's should be part of the governments job and he HUGE power as president to implement it, instead he does nothing. He has more power to help with the clean up than he has taking over corporations, but that's another debate!!
In other words, they wouldn't have sat on their asses and did NOTHING. Fucker doesn't even act like he cares.
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If there's one thing this shows, it's the bias of the media.
Could you imagine the ass-ripping Bush would be getting if he were still President?
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Bobby Jindal has been begging for help from the Army Corp of Engineers for a long time now with no real response. And if jtsuami keeps up with ANYTHING besides what he reads in the "Huffington Post" I know he saw that clip of Carville begging for help as well.
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Oil=More Arabs, Africans, South Americans, and Texans than Jews.
Doesn't like 80% of USA's oil come from canada? That would make them huge in the oil game too.
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Doesn't like 80% of USA's oil come from canada? That would make them huge in the oil game too.
Yes, around 1/3 to 40% of our IMPORTED oil comes form Canada much from oil shale they dig up and refine.
Aprox 20% comes from the Saudi's.
I am amazed at how little the avg person knows in terms of facts about our oil and energy industry.
At least you were aware that Canada is a big player.
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howard, do you believe oil rig workers should be tested for steroids? Do youy prefer the oil rig workers' physique of the early 1980s, or those of today?
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Yes, around 1/3 to 40% of our IMPORTED oil comes form Canada much from oil shale they dig up and refine.
Aprox 20% comes from the Saudi's.
I am amazed at how little the avg person knows in terms of facts about our oil and energy industry.
At least you were aware that Canada is a big player.
Gee get over yourself. I'm not even american. I remember reading somewhere though that Cananda supplies most of the oil to the States. Perhaps they were wrong... I'll look it up.
EDIT: Seems like you were right
http://www.wisegeek.com/where-does-the-us-oil-supply-come-from.htm (http://www.wisegeek.com/where-does-the-us-oil-supply-come-from.htm)
"Approximately 40% of America's oil comes from domestic oil fields in states like Texas, Alaska, and California. Some of this oil is actually sold to other countries, such as Japan. The other 60% of the US oil supply is from foreign sources. Contrary to popular belief, however, the US has very diverse oil interests all over the world, and receives oil and petroleum products from almost every continent on Earth. This diversity within the US oil supply allows allows for the manufacture of a wide range of petroleum products, using crude oil of various chemical makeups."
You learn something new every day.
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Bush would give Haliburton "no bid" contracts to go clean up the mess and also make sure his Republican cronies in Congress made sure that BP got off with a slap on the wrist and a token fine
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Bush Odrama would give Haliburton "no bid" contracts do nothing to go clean up the mess and also make sure his Republican Democrat cronies in Congress made sure that BP got off with a slap on the wrist and a token fine
Updated for Ollama.
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Bush would give Haliburton "no bid" contracts to go clean up the mess and also make sure his Republican cronies in Congress made sure that BP got off with a slap on the wrist and a token fine
Translation = Bush would've cleaned it up, while Che Obama's doing dick about it.
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Updated for Ollama.
what should he do?
BP doesn't even know what the fuck to do
the only thing Obama can really do is make sure BP is held fully accountable and make sure that no other oil company can be in a position to create a this kind of disaster
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Translation = Bush would've cleaned it up, while Che Obama's doing dick about it.
don't kid yourself
At this stage Bush wouldn't have even acknowledged there was a problem
He'd be spinning that it's not really that bad and that BP is in full control of the situation
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what should he do?
BP doesn't even know what the fuck to do
the only thing Obama can really do is make sure BP is held fully accountable and make sure that no other oil company can be in a position to create a this kind of disaster
He isn't going to do anything substantial to BP....wait and see.....just like so many other things that his "supporters" thought he would be differrent about, it will be the same ole same ole.
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bush had/has 25$M in oil holdings. you do the math, saw what happen when a can of lube was a streak in iraq? he'd come down on BP like bunker busters on iraq troops.
bush would have set the whole mess on fire and had one hell of a barbecue. yee hawwwwww.
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He isn't going to do anything substantial to BP....wait and see.....just like so many other things that his "supporters" thought he would be differrent about, it will be the same ole same ole.
the Dems are trying to raise the cap on liablity from 75 million to 10 billion (working from memory on those #'s) and the Repubs in Congress have blocked it saying it would hurt the Mom and Pop offshore drilling companies (do those even exist) and they (those Mom and Pop offshore drillers) would be prevented from creating their own disasters which they are incapable paying for.
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Hahaha, Libs back to Bush. Priceless!
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Hahaha, Libs back to Bush. Priceless!
Way to avoid the question
Bush was the POTUS for the prior 8 years and it was his policies which put industry cronies in charge of regulation (and made most regulation voluntary) which contributed in large part to the current criminal disaster
cue the 10,000 word cut and paste transcript from Limbaugh
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What in THEE fuck does this have to do with Obama's total lack of response to the current situation?
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What in THEE fuck does this have to do with Obama's total lack of response to the current situation?
Do you read books? Maybe long books even? I've been dying to find out.
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Do you read books? Maybe long books even? I've been dying to find out.
The Coach can barely spell; you expect him to comprehend?
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What in THEE fuck does this have to do with Obama's total lack of response to the current situation?
What do you expect him to do? He has done everything he can so far, do you expect him to move down to the Gulf to stay in a hotel so you can physically see him by the oil everyday?
Was Bush at the World Trade Center's everyday after 9/11? He keeps getting criticized for not being down their enough, only time I can remember Bush going to World Trade was to make that speech on the mound of metal. Bush handled 9/11 well too, and Obama is handling this the best he can as well. Your one sidedness is just beyond me Coach!
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What do you expect him to do? He has done everything he can so far, do you expect him to move down to the Gulf to stay in a hotel so you can physically see him by the oil everyday?
Was Bush at the World Trade Center's everyday after 9/11? He keeps getting criticized for not being down their enough, only time I can remember Bush going to World Trade was to make that speech on the mound of metal. Bush handled 9/11 well too, and Obama is handling this the best he can as well. Your one sidedness is just beyond me Coach!
You don't keep up on things too well do you? he hasn't done shit and people are begging for help. Go back and read my last posts, I'm sick of reiterating things.
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If you have no clue about what you're talking about, why not just STFU?
Sincerely yours,
DK
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If you have no clue about what you're talking about, why not just STFU?
Sincerely yours,
DK
Ok, I'll keep that in mind the next time you write a stupid post.
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If you have no clue about what you're talking about, why not just STFU?
Sincerely yours,
DK
Amen to that.
Coach is a stupid son of a bitch who needs to shut the fuck up about world events until he learns about the world. Coach should be ashamed of himself. A 50 year old man who is so stupid and ignorant about the world.
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Amen to that.
Coach is a stupid son of a bitch who needs to shut the fuck up about world events until he learns about the world. Coach should be ashamed of himself. A 50 year old man who is so stupid and ignorant about the world.
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He is the best example of the ignorant stupid conservative american dumbfuck who knows nothing east of Texas yet claims he is the smartest person in the world.
Teh Coach: getbigs most stupid poster in 2007, 2008, 2009 and probably also 2010.
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Where is Coach from anyway? Some hick town for sure.
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Amen to that.
Coach is a stupid son of a bitch who needs to shut the fuck up about world events until he learns about the world. Coach should be ashamed of himself. A 50 year old man who is so stupid and ignorant about the world.
Quiet stupid, there are men on this site. Go to the Miley Cyrus board where you belong.
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Quiet stupid, there are men on this site. Go to the Miley Cyrus board where you belong.
Uhh, i bet that hurts when you live down in Louisiana and live of krill fishing.
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Quiet stupid, there are men on this site. Go to the Miley Cyrus board where you belong.
You're just a fucking Gump.
Wassup Gump.
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I seriously doubt The Coach even has his own opinion. Everything about him has been heavily influenced by a bunch of frauds. He's a brainwashed parrot taking out his napoleon frustrations on things he doesn't understand.
He is a "christian", oh brother.
He is a young-earth creationist.
He is "republican"/neo conservative.
He blindly agrees with whatever is said by Fox News or Limbaugh.
Anyone that disagrees with him is either a far-left lib or communist.
He never deviates from these things.
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He is the best example of the ignorant stupid conservative american dumbfuck who knows nothing east of Texas yet claims he is the smartest person in the world.
Teh Coach: getbigs most stupid poster in 2007, 2008, 2009 and probably also 2010.
I've proved our president was a bafoon before he was even elected. What the fuck more do you want. Shipshekki has shouldn't be in any political discussion seeing that he's made a COMPLETE ass of himself in past discussions. YOU donkeyKong are bias liberal moron who can't accept the fact that a liberal prime minister economically fucked up the UK even more. Oh, yeah you can also thank them for showing us just how great Universal health care is, but unfortunately OUR president and his administration is too damn stupid to realize it!
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i defy any of the haters to be in one tenth as good shape as coach at 46 and to have half his knowledge
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i defy any of the haters to be in one tenth as good shape as coach at 46 and to have half his knowledge
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Half his knowledge about what?
I've never seen him share any knowledge about anything. Besides training tips that any gym rat would know.
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i defy any of the haters to be in one tenth as good shape as coach at 46 48 and to have half his knowledge
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fixed, thanks 8)
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Half his knowledge about what?
I've never seen him share any knowledge about anything. Because training tips that any gym rat would know.
Well, you know nothing about training so I wouldn't expect you understand anything I was talking about anyway and you are a liberal so I wouldn't expect you to have shred of commonsense.
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I've proved our president was a bafoon before he was even elected. What the fuck more do you want. Shipshekki has shouldn't be in any political discussion seeing that he's made a COMPLETE ass of himself in past discussions. YOU donkeyKong are bias liberal moron who can't accept the fact that a liberal prime minister economically fucked up the UK even more. Oh, yeah you can also thank them for showing us just how great Universal health care is, but unfortunately OUR president and his administration is too damn stupid to realize it!
No you did not you fucking clown. All you did was whine about William Ayers and how Joe Biden messed up his tv interviews etc, stupid shit that was spoon fed to you by "conservative" news outlets. You constantly complained about minor irrelevant stuff that was never the source of his real problems to begin with. You did NOT predict the way Obama ended up acting.
All you could ever do was hate him, no matter what with no real logic behind it.
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No you did not you fucking clown. All you did was whine about William Ayers and how Joe Biden messed up his tv interviews etc, stupid shit that was spoon fed to you by "conservative" news outlets. You constantly complained about minor irrelevant stuff that was never the source of his real problems to begin with. You did NOT predict the way Obama ended up acting.
All you could ever do was hate him, no matter what with no real logic behind it.
Find the posts where I said that and while you're at it go back to before the election and read what I said. Whether I read it or heard it my souces where I go the info from were right. Go ahead, tell me they weren't. Tell me this president isn't the biggest fuck up this country has ever seen.
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No you did not you fucking clown. All you did was whine about William Ayers and how Joe Biden messed up his tv interviews etc, stupid shit that was spoon fed to you by "conservative" news outlets. You constantly complained about minor irrelevant stuff that was never the source of his real problems to begin with. You did NOT predict the way Obama ended up acting.
All you could ever do was hate him, no matter what with no real logic behind it.
What is your opinion of ayers,monkey?
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Find the posts where I said that and while you're at it go back to before the election and read what I said. Whether I read it or heard it my souces where I go the info from were right. Go ahead, tell me they weren't. Tell me this president isn't the biggest fuck up this country has ever seen.
Dude I'm not gonna go dig up posts from 2008 to prove your midget ass wrong, it's really not worth the effort. I'll just rely on that you can't say with a straight face that you were not obsessed with the whole William Ayers thing and Joe Biden's interview credibility. Were you not? Be honest.
Oh Obama is a fuck up alright, but that's besides the point. The point here is that you can't even form your own opinion and everything is spoon fed to you by highly dubious sources.
When are you going to realize that there is no real struggle between "liberal" and "conservative" forces, it's all the same mess.
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What is your opinion of ayers,monkey?
I don't really have any besides that he is not the source of Obama's problems as coach would have us believe during the election.
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hows "your fighter" rampage feelin coach..
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If you have no clue about what you're talking about, why not just STFU?
Sincerely yours,
DK
who are you to question ANY american, eurofag?
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Jesus was ultra liberal, wasn't he Coach?
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hint for shipsekki
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who are you to question ANY american, eurofag?
Oh boy... ::) ::) ::)
I guess this thread is another proof that "Teh Coach" is as stupid as a pissing against the wind.
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Coach i do. Never been to huffington site. I watch cable news. Were do you get your news from.
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Coach i do. Never been to huffington site. I watch cable news. Were do you get your news from.
Doughboy... ;D
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No you did not you fucking clown. All you did was whine about William Ayers and how Joe Biden messed up his tv interviews etc, stupid shit that was spoon fed to you by "conservative" news outlets. You constantly complained about minor irrelevant stuff that was never the source of his real problems to begin with. You did NOT predict the way Obama ended up acting.
All you could ever do was hate him, no matter what with no real logic behind it.
Are you a moron? There's plenty of hard evidence that virtually all of Obama's mentors were Marxists, Communists, radicals and far left nutjobs. Look at his appointees for god's sake. How many resigned after being exposed for what they were. Most Americans don't want that shit in the US. The guy is an absolute disaster and if you hate Coach for realizing it, then you will have to hate the majority of America as well.
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Are you a moron? There's plenty of hard evidence that virtually all of Obama's mentors were Marxists, Communists, radicals and far left nutjobs. Look at his appointees for god's sake. How many resigned after being exposed for what they were. Most Americans don't want that shit in the US. The guy is an absolute disaster and if you hate Coach for realizing it, then you will have to hate the majority of America as well.
you mean the majority of Americans who voted him into office?
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Are you a moron? There's plenty of hard evidence that virtually all of Obama's mentors were Marxists, Communists, radicals and far left nutjobs. Look at his appointees for god's sake. How many resigned after being exposed for what they were. Most Americans don't want that shit in the US. The guy is an absolute disaster and if you hate Coach for realizing it, then you will have to hate the majority of America as well.
I think you're mistaking me for a Obama supporter. I'm not saying that the Obama-bashing was entirely unfounded, I'm saying that the coach is a fucking imbecile parrot.
Get a clue, idiot.
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If you have no clue about what you're talking about, why not just STFU?
Sincerely yours,
DK
lol
getbig's resident retard is back .. you, ship sekki and devislime would make a great centipede ... you could be link 2 or 3
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i defy any of the haters to be in one tenth as good shape as coach at 46 and to have half his knowledge
And the area in Huntington Beach California that Coach lives his morgage payment is more than most here make in income.
It's funny when a conservative passes on his value system it's brainwashing but when a liberal passes on their value system it's education.
When Coach articulates his beliefs he's just parroting what others say but when a liberal does it it's an original clearly thought out belief system.
Adress any man's arguments on it's merits rather than attack someone just because you don't like them pesonally. But since a liberal's beliefs are based on emotion rather than rational thought that's nearly impossible to do.
I saw this on a bumper sticker the other day. "Why do we kill people that kill people to teach others that killing is wrong?"
I'm sure the libs on this board are saying, "Yeah, why? Good point."
Why do we kidnap people (put them in jail) that kidnap people to teach others that kidnapping is wrong?
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And the area in Huntington Beach California that Coach lives his morgage payment is more than most here make in income.
It's funny when a conservative passes on his value system it's brainwashing but when a liberal passes on their value system it's education.
When Coach articulates his beliefs he's just parroting what others say but when a liberal does it it's an original clearly thought out belief system.
Adress any man's arguments on it's merits rather than attack someone just because you don't like them pesonally. But since a liberal's beliefs are based on emotion rather than rational thought that's nearly impossible to do.
I saw this on a bumper sticker the other day. "Why do we kill people that kill people to teach others that killing is wrong?"
I'm sure the libs on this board are saying, "Yeah, why? Good point.
Why do we kidnap people (put them in jail) that kidnap people to teach others that kidnapping is wrong?
And you're no different from Coach, calling people "lib" whenever they happen to disagree with yourself.
Is the world really black and white to you?
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And you're no different from Coach, calling people "lib" whenever they happen to disagree with yourself.
Is the world really black and white to you?
I consider it a compliment and an honor to be compared with Coach.
Coach is primarily attacked for his religious and political beliefs which is why I framed my argument around this point.
I call a person a liberal when they hold a particular set of beliefs. It is not an insult though libs take it that way. You can call me a right wing conservative until the cows come home and I'll just keep telling you you're correct. The vast, vast majority of people that I disagree with here on this board has nothing to do with politics.
Is the world really black and white to you?
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I consider it a compliment and an honor to be compared with Coach.
Coach is primarily attacked for his religious and political beliefs which is why I framed my argument around this point.
I call a person a liberal when they hold a particular set of beliefs. It is not an insult though libs take it that way. You can call me a right wing conservative until the cows come home and I'll just keep telling you you're correct. The vast, vast majority of people that I disagree with here on this board has nothing to do with politics.
Is the world really black and white to you?
You're both religious and conservative, right? Why would you be honored to be compared to Coach? The man brings disgrace to the values and beliefs you treasure.
If one were to interview him right on the spot and ask him what socialism is, I bet you dollar to donuts that he wouldn't be able to answer it without embarrassing himself. I'd even go as far as saying that he wouldn't know what the founding fathers really did for america and what being a republican really stands for. Lets not even mention communism let alone fascism. The man's a dumbass parrot. I seriously doubt he reads books.
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I consider it a compliment and an honor to be compared with Coach.
Coach is primarily attacked for his religious and political beliefs which is why I framed my argument around this point.
I call a person a liberal when they hold a particular set of beliefs. It is not an insult though libs take it that way. You can call me a right wing conservative until the cows come home and I'll just keep telling you you're correct. The vast, vast majority of people that I disagree with here on this board has nothing to do with politics.
Is the world really black and white to you?
Coach has, and continues to, caught a lot of flack on Getbig because he is continually misinformed or uninformed. I wouldn't try to guess the number of times he has passed on unsourced items or fraudulent pieces believing them to be gospel. This has some to do with his political stance, but more with his emotional and educational quotients: There's just no critical eye or rationality being employed in Coach's world. Combine this with his knee-jerk reactions and you get the train wreck that is a Coach thread. :-\
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You're both religious and conservative, right? Why would you be honored to be compared to Coach? The man brings disgrace to the values and beliefs you treasure.
If one were to interview him right on the spot and ask him what socialism is, I bet you dollar to donuts that he wouldn't be able to answer it without embarrassing himself. I'd even go as far as saying that he wouldn't know what the founding fathers really did for america and what being a republican really stands for. Lets not even mention communism let alone fascism. The man's a dumbass parrot. I seriously doubt he reads books.
Your tone sounds measured and sincere so I take it seriously and with respect.
You feel Coach brings disgrace to the values and beliefs I uphold. That's just an opinion that I disagree with. If you can give me a specific example I will address it and I leave open the possibility that I will be proven wrong. But be aware that nobody agrees with anybody 100% of the time. I'm sure I agree with Coach vis-a-vis politics and religion far more than a liberal does.
And as far as his knowing what Socialism, Communism, Fascism is; people disagree on the specifics but the common theme is bigger and more (and in some cases, complete) government control. Coach and myself believe that goverment is a necessary evil and should be limited. Their role, both Federal and State, is clearly enunciated in the Constitution -- and is routinely and savagely violated daily.
I would like an example, taken in context, that Coach, a very successful man by any measure, is a dumbass?
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Your tone sounds measured and sincere so I take it seriously and with respect.
You feel Coach brings disgrace to the values and beliefs I uphold. That's just an opinion that I disagree with. If you can give me a specific example I will address it and I leave open the possibility that I will be proven wrong. But be aware that nobody agrees with anybody 100% of the time. I'm sure I agree with Coach vis-a-vis politics and religion far more than a liberal does.
And as far as his knowing what Socialism, Communism, Fascism is; people disagree on the specifics but the common theme is bigger and more (and in some cases, complete) government control. Coach and myself believe that goverment is a necessary evil and should be limited. Their role, both Federal and State, is clearly enunciated in the Constitution -- and is routinely and savagely violated daily.
I would like an example, taken in context, that Coach, a very successful man by any measure, is a dumbass?
What about being christian and already on his way to the 4th divorce? I thought marriage was a holy union ;D
So he likes less government, huh. So that's why he's praising Bush Jr all the time and not voting libertarian or something of the like?
Well, we can only know him through this message board so that is what both of our impressions are based on. I say based on the stupidness he displays here, he's a certifiable dumbass. I don't care how much money he makes or what kind of family man he is(a failed one in any case), it's irrelevant to the discussion.
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Stop drilling into the ocean floor or you will eventually hit something that you cant stop should be the lesson here. ::)
You have to laugh at how little pea brain humans think they created this planet and have all the answers. Eventually some idiots bright ideas will end this planet for good, people cant just settle for what they have, always need to find more things till it all goes boom.
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I'm on my way to my 4th divorce? Damn, why didn't you tell me this earlier? First TA tell me I don't actually live where I THOUGHT I actually lived and now I'm on my way to my 4th divorce.. :'(
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Coach has, and continues to, caught a lot of flack on Getbig because he is continually misinformed or uninformed. I wouldn't try to guess the number of times he has passed on unsourced items or fraudulent pieces believing them to be gospel. This has some to do with his political stance, but more with his emotional and educational quotients: There's just no critical eye or rationality being employed in Coach's world. Combine this with his knee-jerk reactions and you get the train wreck that is a Coach thread. :-\
You I take seriously because you are a level headed and reasonable person. I haven't read all of Coach's post but I have never found any of the sort of thing that you described. And keep in mind that context determines everything. I've called Obama and idiot before but I know in reality he is a very, very intelligent person. Scary smart. You don't have his academic background and get to where he is at such a young age by being a dummy.
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You I take seriously because you are a level headed and reasonable person. I haven't read all of Coach's post but I have never found any of the sort of thing that you described. And keep in mind that context determines everything. I've called Obama and idiot before but I know in reality he is a very, very intelligent person. Scary smart. You don't have his academic background and get to where he is at such a young age by being a dummy.
Well, this differentiates you and others from Coach. Coach really does believe Obama is less than what he appears to be. I remember all the posts by Coach about Obama being unable to give a speech without a teleprompter. That nonsense went on for weeks. I do clearly remember in the 1st week following Obama's inauguration, Coach was incessantly going on about why Obama hadn't yet *fixed* the economy!? And I could go on, but what would be the point.
Now, Coach seems like a decent sort, and appears to be a noted trainer of athletes; but his using language he doesn't understand, or positing polemical or misleading/untrue points is just gonna get himself called out. Hell, around here it's like wearing a bullseye.
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What about being christian and already on his way to the 4th divorce? I thought marriage was a holy union ;D
So he likes less government, huh. So that's why he's praising Bush Jr all the time and not voting libertarian or something of the like?
Well, we can only know him through this message board so that is what both of our impressions are based on. I say based on the stupidness he displays here, he's a certifiable dumbass. I don't care how much money he makes or what kind of family man he is(a failed one in any case), it's irrelevant to the discussion.
It is true that Christianity is rarely followed to the letter by anybody and those that do are called religious zealots and fanatics by those like you. Premarital sex, living together "in sin", skipping Mass/Services when it suits them. I myself am no virgin and I missed Mass last month because I was just too fuckin tired. What do you want me to do? Completely abandon my belief system by striving for something higher than myself simply because I'm not perfect? One of the difference between Christianity and Judaism is that a Christian can't "earn" their way into heaven on deeds alone because we recognize and realized that as humans we are flawed beings and can't do it solely on our own. We need Christ. You can disagree and mock these beliefs and even be outrage that we far short of our ideals daily. But we don't answer to you.
Bush Jr. succeeded in the number one responsibility of government. Protecting it's people. No believe after 9/11 that we would go another 8 years without a single major domestic attack. And it's wasn't for our enemy's lack of trying. Of course, you never get credit for something that didn't happen. Something that you prevented from happening.
Bush domestically, not as good. But life is a matter of trade offs. I believe under Gore or Kerry it wouldn't have been worse.
I am very sympathetic to the Libertarian's domestic policies (not so much foreign) but none of that matter if you don't win. I know you will disagree with me but this is as true as death and taxes. Under our system of government a third party will never rise to control political power. You may elect an independent here an there to congress but President? Never, ever, ever. In all it's history it's never been close. All it does it muck up things for the major candidates. Gore would have won if it wasn't for Nader. Bush Sr. would have won a 2nd term if it wasn't for Perot.
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Well, this differentiates you and others from Coach. Coach really does believe Obama is less than what he appears to be. I remember all the posts by Coach about Obama being unable to give a speech without a teleprompter. That nonsense went on for weeks. I do clearly remember in the 1st week following Obama's inauguration, Coach was incessantly going on about why Obama hadn't yet *fixed* the economy!? And I could go on, but what would be the point.
Now, Coach seems like a decent sort, and appears to be a noted trainer of athletes; but his using language he doesn't understand, or positing polemical or misleading/untrue points is just gonna get himself called out. Hell, around here it's like wearing a bullseye.
You can be brilliant and not able to speak off the cuff effectively. That's a skill. Clinton was great at it. Obama not so much and more contrived. I don't think he really meant, I hope, that there is a point where someone can make too much money. I wonder how much that would be and what he thinks should be done about it? I wonder if Obama believes there ever is a point where the government has taken too much of our money. At least Gates became a billionaire because he's an insanely productive human being. He earned his money. The government just takes it.
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The BP disaster is partisan only in perception. The corporations presence and influence remain in gov regardless of the party in power.
Needless to say, this will be drummed into the US consciousness during the next election.
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You can be brilliant and not able to speak off the cuff effectively. That's a skill. Clinton was great at it. Obama not so much and more contrived. I don't think he really meant, I hope, that there is a point where someone can make too much money. I wonder how much that would be and what he thinks should be done about it? I wonder if Obama believes there ever is a point where the government has taken too much of our money. At least Gates became a billionaire because he's an insanely productive human being. He earned his money. The government just takes it.
Yeah, Clinton's got the gift and charisma, in spades. Obama, I think, is less contrived than very careful, which I think is part his lawyering, and part because he is the first Black President and so many people want him to fail because of it. Let's not forget he's a nerd, too. Those mom jeans. Oh brother.
Let's not forget that Obama is a politician and has lots of checks and balances to work with/against. Turning the ship of state is long, slow work and Presidents try to enact policies to effect change in the ensuing years/decades. Like putting forward Supreme Court nominees, who then have a nasty habit of not aligning themselves with the politics of said President.
And Bill Gates was also timely, lucky, and a virtual monopolist. You know: the American way. :D
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Jesus was ultra liberal, wasn't he Coach?
Um, I believe Christ was pro life and he preached giving to the poor not giving to the government.
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Yeah, Clinton's got the gift and charisma, in spades. Obama, I think, is less contrived than very careful, which I think is part his lawyering, and part because he is the first Black President and so many people want him to fail because of it. Let's not forget he's a nerd, too. Those mom jeans. Oh brother.
Let's not forget that Obama is a politician and has lots of checks and balances to work with/against. Turning the ship of state is long, slow work and Presidents try to enact policies to effect change in the ensuing years/decades. Like putting forward Supreme Court nominees, who then have a nasty habit of not aligning themselves with the politics of said President.
And Bill Gates was also timely, lucky, and a virtual monopolist. You know: the American way. :D
Couple of points. Fate and luck plays a role in everything in life. But that had little to do with Gates success. He was, or at least his henchmen, were ruthless businessmen and did created a virtual monopoly.WTH. I'd do the same thing if I could. But think how much he singlehanded grew the economy and made the world as a whole more prosperous both directly and indirectly.
And I'm sure some want Obama to fail because he's Black but that's a small irrelevant minority. Unlike Clinton, Obama won the majority of the vote. And if you know anything about White guilt in this country they bend over backwards for minorities and many non Blacks supported Obama in some measure because he is Black. All else being equal I myself would vote for a Black if no other reason than to show this is not a racist country. Not to say there's no racism in American. Of course there is. There's just very little institutionalized racism, i.e. public policy that specifically dictates that certain minorities are to be discriminated against.
It's just I would rather go with a Condeleeza Rice than an Obama for president.
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It's just I would rather go with a Condeleeza Rice than an Obama for president.
She'd be on my short list if I was looking for a new CEO, but probably last if I was looking for social policy changes. I'm on the fence about Obama. I think he's trying to do too much, or maybe has bitten off more than he can chew. Whereas I'd go with either a major foreign policy objective and one minor domestic policy (or vice versa), Obama has basically opted for two major foreign policy objectives and two major domestic ones. If he pulls it off, amazing, but the odds are against it.
On the whole, I'm leery of people who actively seek public office: they're whores trying to become madames.
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lol
getbig's resident retard is back .. you, ship sekki and devislime would make a great centipede ... you could be link 2 or 3
The next time you have one of your gay orgies/ reptillian rituals, invite us all over and we can do that.
You fucking fruitcake. Go shove a snake up your ass so you can interbreed with the reptillians.
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the Dems are trying to raise the cap on liablity from 75 million to 10 billion (working from memory on those #'s) and the Repubs in Congress have blocked it saying it would hurt the Mom and Pop offshore drilling companies (do those even exist) and they (those Mom and Pop offshore drillers) would be prevented from creating their own disasters which they are incapable paying for.
YES, Mom and Pop drilling companies exist
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Well, this differentiates you and others from Coach. Coach really does believe Obama is less than what he appears to be. I remember all the posts by Coach about Obama being unable to give a speech without a teleprompter. That nonsense went on for weeks. I do clearly remember in the 1st week following Obama's inauguration, Coach was incessantly going on about why Obama hadn't yet *fixed* the economy!? And I could go on, but what would be the point.
Now, Coach seems like a decent sort, and appears to be a noted trainer of athletes; but his using language he doesn't understand, or positing polemical or misleading/untrue points is just gonna get himself called out. Hell, around here it's like wearing a bullseye.
Okay Chimps, enough is enough. First I am going to address the highlighted then I want you to point out where I was wrong in my postings about the criticisms I have now and that I've had in the past about Obama and his administration. First off, if you REALLY think that I was actually serious about Obama fixing the economy in the FIRST week following his inauguration, you're the naive one and to even suggest that was imbecilic and judgmental but just to clarify so you don't make the same mistake again, of course I did not expect him to fix the economy, that being said, seems even in jest at the time, I wasn't far off because here we are almost 2 years later and things are worse. Thats not speculation, that's a fact!
On to point two, please point out what language you're referring to I would love to know. I'm not calling myself an expert by any means but I read, watch and listen to both sides when it comes to politics and draw my own conclusions on what it right and what is wrong and how it effects my life, my business, my family and our future. I also go by what happen in the past history when it come's to how Democrats have ran the country and how republicans have ran the country. I'm not out to change minds just express my own and if people don't like it they can kiss my hairy Italian ASS, same with my being a Christian, I'm not bible thumper, I don't stand on a corner preaching the gospel that I believe in but if someone is in need of being witnessed to and is open to it, I'm more than happy to witness to them. I know I don't think I would have got this far without Him.
Make me a target all you want, I'm still going to believe what I believe and I will express it on these boards and face to face. But I will tell you one thing, when ever I do express my feelings about this president and administration on here, all I see is criticisms and name calling and bashing and yes, like you pointed out, made a target of.....I get no real intelligent answer to what I post and no facts to back up the what I might post in regards to a story. If I post something Limbaugh said that is factually accurate, I'll get bashed for posting it and some moron will call him a drug addict without even refuting the facts in the article.
I read an article today about how Bill Maher said in one of his monologues that "Obama wasn't acting like black president"
Now to bring up another point, no I don't think Obama is stupid not in the least, I think he's extremely intelligent but not as much as people might think he is, personally think he's above average as a whole but by Washington standards, he's average but smart enough to dupe the american public, he definitely has an agenda but it's an agenda that few want. But there are certain issues, IMPORTANT issues that he is COMPLETELY clueless about, this gulf spill is just one!
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oh god we know you will not stop believing what you believe in coach that's what makes it so hard for us to take, cause your beliefs are just beyond crazy and lunaticish. Sad but we must embrace reality, you will never recover from conservatism :-[
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Okay Chimps, enough is enough. First I am going to address the highlighted then I want you to point out where I was wrong in my postings about the criticisms I have now and that I've had in the past about Obama and his administration. First off, if you REALLY think that I was actually serious about Obama fixing the economy in the FIRST week following his inauguration, you're the naive one and to even suggest that was imbecilic and judgmental but just to clarify so you don't make the same mistake again, of course I did not expect him to fix the economy, that being said, seems even in jest at the time, I wasn't far off because here we are almost 2 years later and things are worse. Thats not speculation, that's a fact!
On to point two, please point out what language you're referring to I would love to know. I'm not calling myself an expert by any means but I read, watch and listen to both sides when it comes to politics and draw my own conclusions on what it right and what is wrong and how it effects my life, my business, my family and our future. I also go by what happen in the past history when it come's to how Democrats have ran the country and how republicans have ran the country. I'm not out to change minds just express my own and if people don't like it they can kiss my hairy Italian ASS, same with my being a Christian, I'm not bible thumper, I don't stand on a corner preaching the gospel that I believe in but if someone is in need of being witnessed to and is open to it, I'm more than happy to witness to them. I know I don't think I would have got this far without Him.
Make me a target all you want, I'm still going to believe what I believe and I will express it on these boards and face to face. But I will tell you one thing, when ever I do express my feelings about this president and administration on here, all I see is criticisms and name calling and bashing and yes, like you pointed out, made a target of.....I get no real intelligent answer to what I post and no facts to back up the what I might post in regards to a story. If I post something Limbaugh said that is factually accurate, I'll get bashed for posting it and some moron will call him a drug addict without even refuting the facts in the article.
I read an article today about how Bill Maher said in one of his monologues that "Obama wasn't acting like black president"
Now to bring up another point, no I don't think Obama is stupid not in the least, I think he's extremely intelligent but not as much as people might think he is, personally think he's above average as a whole but by Washington standards, he's average but smart enough to dupe the american public, he definitely has an agenda but it's an agenda that few want. But there are certain issues, IMPORTANT issues that he is COMPLETELY clueless about, this gulf spill is just one!
Bill Mahr is not a politican or talk show host. He's a comedian. His job is to make people laugh.
As far as the oil spill is concerned, because of the way the laws have been set up, the government cannot come in and intervene as they did with the banks. Regardless of what president was in office, there would not have been any chance made
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i stand my ground. Halliburton, its' contractors and their equipment would be mobilized with Baby Bush in office because this is turning into a national problem. If he can jimmy up the numbers for a WMD war...then an oil spill is child's play. You are fool Vince.
Too many barrels at steak.
Its not a national problem. That's why they cannot intervene like they did with the banks, dum ass. Its a bad problem but it definitely isn't on a national scale.
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Gone over this alrready in another post......
How about start working to clean up the shores and protect jobs and business and surrounding environment in marshes? That's should be part of the governments job and he HUGE power as president to implement it, instead he does nothing. He has more power to help with the clean up than he has taking over corporations, but that's another debate!!
In other words, they wouldn't have sat on their asses and did NOTHING. Fucker doesn't even act like he cares.
props to coach for NOT starting this thread.
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Limbaugh, Hannity, Levine, etc arnt politicians either Vince.
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Limbaugh, Hannity, Levine, etc arnt politicians either Vince.
Limbaugh, Hannity, and Levine are not comedians. They are Radio and TV Show commentator who want people to take what they are saying seriously.
My point is that you take someone who's job is to make people laugh seriously. Bill Mahr's job is a comedian so you can't put him on par with Limbaugh & Hannity although he's branched out into political reporting. Personally I like Hannity because he's a straight shooter and rarely goes outside the box . Limbaugh on the hand takes pot shots at any liberal or Democrat person even if its completely bullshit and has a tendancy to twist a story around to his own advantage.
We need to get back to real clear politics where the message is clear for everyone so they can make a well informed decision as to who to go with. The GOP also needs to be much more centralized and not go too far to the right or left. Obviously we are two totally different Republicans but it should not be at a point where the GOP has to cut off one side to please another side.
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I am curious to see how the criminal investigations go.
if this happened on Ontario Canada, for example, those responsible would be charged criminally, fined and go to prison.
our environmental protection laws are written that way.
all you have to do is cause a discharge that MAY cause a deleterious effect on the environment and you can be charged.
you don't even have to fuck up the environment. just the potential has to have been there for you to be charged under the environmental protection act and associated regulations.
I hope the same sorts of regulations are in effect in the states and the higher ups go to prison for a long time..