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CNSNews.com
Pelosi Says She Has a Duty to Pursue Policies in Keeping With The Values of Jesus, 'The Word Made Flesh'
Tuesday, June 01, 2010
By Nicholas Ballasy, Video Reporter
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.). (AP Photo/Cliff Owen)(CNSNews.com) -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) says she believes she must pursue public policies "in keeping with the values" of Jesus Christ, "The Word made Flesh."
Pelosi, who is a Catholic and who favors legalized abortion, voted against the ban on partial-birth abortion that was enacted into law in 2003.
At a May 6 Catholic Community Conference on Capitol Hill, the speaker said: “They ask me all the time, ‘What is your favorite this? What is your favorite that? What is your favorite that?’ And one time, ‘What is your favorite word?’ And I said, ‘My favorite word? That is really easy. My favorite word is the Word, is the Word. And that is everything. It says it all for us. And you know the biblical reference, you know the Gospel reference of the Word.”
“And that Word," Pelosi said, "is, we have to give voice to what that means in terms of public policy that would be in keeping with the values of the Word. The Word. Isn’t it a beautiful word when you think of it? It just covers everything. The Word.
“Fill it in with anything you want. But, of course, we know it means: ‘The Word was made flesh and dwelt amongst us.’ And that’s the great mystery of our faith. He will come again. He will come again. So, we have to make sure we’re prepared to answer in this life, or otherwise, as to how we have measured up.”
John 1:14 states, "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we saw His glory, the glory as it were of the only begotten of the Father) full of grace and truth."
The passage from the Gospel of John, Christians believe, refers to God (the Word) becoming a man, Jesus Christ, at the moment of the Annunciation, when the angel Gabriel told the Virgin Mary she was going to have a child. According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, “the Incarnation is the mystery and the dogma of the Word made Flesh.”
Section 423 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church states: “We believe and confess that Jesus of Nazareth, born a Jew of a daughter of Israel at Bethlehem at the time of King Herod the Great and the emperor Caesar Augustus, a carpenter by trade, who died crucified in Jerusalem under the procurator Pontius Pilate during the reign of the emperor Tiberius, is the eternal Son of God made man. He 'came from God', 'descended from heaven', and 'came in the flesh'. For 'the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father … And from his fullness have we all received, grace upon grace.”
After Pope Benedict XVI met privately with Speaker Pelosi in February 2009, the Vatican issued a statement saying: "His Holiness took the opportunity to speak of the requirements of the natural moral law and the Church's consistent teaching on the dignity of human life from conception to natural death which enjoin all Catholics, and especially legislators, jurists and those responsible for the common good of society, to work in co-operation with all men and women of good will in creating a just system of laws capable of protecting human life at all stages of its development."
Pelosi’s office did not respond to CNSNews.com’s follow-up questions regarding the speaker’s statement that she seeks to make policy in conformance with the values of the Word made flesh.
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Yeah, Jesus was for 24/7 abortion, gay marriage, stealing from your neighbor, etc. ::) ::)
I cant wait till Straw, Lurker, TA, Mons, Benny, Blacken, and the rest of the loons chipe in on this gem.
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I wish no politician would make statements like this but I'm not aware that Jebus ever gave an opinion on gay marriage or abortion.
I wasn't aware Pelosi was in favor of stealing from your neighbors (let me guess that's your way of talking about taxes, or things like food stamps) though I recall there is some words attributed to Jebus about selling all your possessions and giving it to the poor
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I wish no politician would make statements like this but I'm not aware that Jebus ever gave an opinion on gay marriage or abortion.
I wasn't aware Pelosi was in favor of stealing from your neighbors (let me guess that's your way of talking about taxes, or things like food stamps) though I recall there is some words attributed to Jebus about selling all your possessions and giving it to the poor
Read: Yours, not others.
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Straw- she is stealing from you and me.
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Read: Yours, not others.
I don't actually believe Pelosi promotes stealing from others
I assumed that was obvious
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You also believe that the post office is solvent and the Stimulus Bill was a good use of 800 Billion dollars.
Notice a pattern Straw?
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Supporting the war in which (US) soldiers, and innocent civilians are being killed daily isn't a sin, but being pro choice is? ???
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You also believe that the post office is solvent and the Stimulus Bill was a good use of 800 Billion dollars.
Notice a pattern Straw?
I seem to recall you love the post office, especially those kiosks where you can drop stuff off. Didn't you say there should be more of those things?
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I wish no politician would make statements like this but I'm not aware that Jebus ever gave an opinion on gay marriage or abortion.
I wasn't aware Pelosi was in favor of stealing from your neighbors (let me guess that's your way of talking about taxes, or things like food stamps) though I recall there is some words attributed to Jebus about selling all your possessions and giving it to the poor
Jesus certainly gave an opinion of homosexuality.He said "they that do these things are worthy of death".He was speaking of homosexuality when he said that.
When Jesus said to "sell your possessions and give the money to the poor",he was speaking to a rich man who said he wanted to be a disciple of Jesus.So Jesus told the man to do this to show that the man loved his things and the things of this world more then he loved Jesus.It was not a command for all,but specifically for this man.
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Yes I do like their 24/7 Kisok, but that does not mean I like their overall business plan or pattern.
As for Pelosi - do you see why so many people loathe this woman?
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I cant wait till Straw, Lurker, TA, Mons, Benny, Blacken, and the rest of the loons chipe in on this gem.
Jesus gave no mention or judgement against homosexuality. Jesus never said he was against abortion. God himself is Pro-Abortion as the bible clearly states.
I thought liberals were not suppose to be Christians? But Republicans are? Is your tirade directed at liberal Christians or Christians in general that would echo the same statement she made? Which is it?
Otherwise, your whine has failed. (No surprise)
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Jesus gave no mention or judgement against homosexuality. Jesus never said he was against abortion. God himself is Pro-Abortion as the bible clearly states.
I thought liberals were not suppose to be Christians? But Republicans are? Is your tirade directed at liberal Christians or Christians in general that would echo the same statement she made? Which is it?
Otherwise, your whine has failed. (No surprise)
Can you show me where God is pro-abortion?
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As for Pelosi - do you see why so many people loathe this woman?
Because she is a Christian and professes to believe in Jesus?
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Supporting the war in which (US) soldiers, and innocent civilians are being killed daily isn't a sin, but being pro choice is? ???
I'm not defending Pelosi, I'm just seriously curious. How is it not a sin to send our soldiers to be killed, and to kill innocent civilians, but it is a sin to support freedom for women? ???
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Yeah where does it say God is pro-abortion? He's pro genocide, but not pro abortion, and there are no comments on gay marriage that i can recollect.
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Jesus gave no mention or judgement against homosexuality. Jesus never said he was against abortion. God himself is Pro-Abortion as the bible clearly states.
I thought liberals were not suppose to be Christians? But Republicans are? Is your tirade directed at liberal Christians or Christians in general that would echo the same statement she made? Which is it?
Otherwise, your whine has failed. (No surprise)
A COMPLETE LIE!!The Bible which is the word of God according to Christians and Jesus, condems homosexuality quite a bit.
Leviticus 18:22
Romans 1:26-27
First Corinthians 6:9
All say its an abomination.
As far as abortion goes,there are many many passages that clearly state that a fetus in the womb is a life and we are demanded to protect the life of the innocent and weak.The Bible clearly states that the baby in the womb is a life and since murder is a sin,to snuff out that life is murder.
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Can you show me where God is pro-abortion?
Do you not realize how many unborns and first borns God handed a death sentence out to?
God is all for late term abortions and post birth killings.
Do you not recall the stories of God striking wombs barren so their fruits wither and die?
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Yeah where does it say God is pro-abortion? He's pro genocide, but not pro abortion, and there are no comments on gay marriage that i can recollect.
I guess we have to wait for McWay or others to chipe in.
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to snuff out that life is murder.
Unless God does it huh?
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Unless God does it huh?
YES!!!Are our ways equal to Gods ways?HE created everything and HE decides who lives and who dies.I know Barrack Hussein Obama thinks he decides everything including the earth healing itself and the flow of the oceans but sorry,its God that decides.
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A COMPLETE LIE!!The Bible which is the word of God according to Christians and Jesus, condems homosexuality quite a bit.
Bullshit. The Bible is NOT the word of God. The Bible is the writing of man (men) who think they KNOW that the word of God is. If it were the true word of God don't you think he would have at least taken out the contradictions in it that abound?
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oh brother... i'm so sick of politicians of both parties citing jesus as a justification for anything.
STFU already. I believe in a higher power and follow a code of conduct... but seriously, I can't stand people who try to justify any legislation based upon God.
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YES!!!Are our ways equal to Gods ways?HE created everything and HE decides who lives and who dies.I know Barrack Hussein Obama thinks he decides everything including the earth healing itself and the flow of the oceans but sorry,its God that decides.
Says who?
Can you provide PROOF of all this you are crediting to some invisible man sitting on a cloud?
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Maybe you should go and ask Queen Nancy since she obviously is connected to this magic man you refer to.
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Says who?
Can you provide PROOF of all this you are crediting to some invisible man sitting on a cloud?
Ummm,we were talking about whats in the Bible were we not?Im simply posting whats in there.Quite frankly I dont give a flying fuck if you believe it or not,or if you think there is some invisible jew in the sky dictating things.BUT if your going to quote the Bible,quote it right and dont distort it.I believe what I believe and never argue it one way or the other,in fact you dont have a clue of what I believe when it comes to faith.
According to the Bible taking steroids without a perscription would be a sin,because your not following the laws of the land.Ive posted on here I take steroids.I dont follow the law of the land,I also NEVER EVER use a seat belt simply because IT IS the law of the land.So you really have no idea what I believe,and Im not here to prove a f'n thing about God and if he exists or if he is a figmant of others imagination.BUT dont say the Bible says something it doesnt.
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Ummm,we were talking about whats in the Bible were we not?Im simply posting whats in there.Quite frankly I dont give a flying fuck if you believe it or not,or if you think there is some invisible jew in the sky dictating things.BUT if your going to quote the Bible,quote it right and dont distort it.I believe what I believe and never argue it one way or the other,in fact you dont have a clue of what I believe when it comes to faith.
According to the Bible taking steroids without a perscription would be a sin,because your not following the laws of the land.Ive posted on here I take steroids.I dont follow the law of the land,I also NEVER EVER use a seat belt simply because IT IS the law of the land.So you really have no idea what I believe,and Im not here to prove a f'n thing about God and if he exists or if he is a figmant of others imagination.BUT dont say the Bible says something it doesnt.
I think it's only a sin if you use more than a gram of total steroids per week... :-X
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I think it's only a sin if you use more than a gram of total steroids per week... :-X
Hopefully that goes for masterbation as well.Maybe a cut off at once a day and you get a pass.Or if you like prostitutes,maybe you get a pass at two or three a year?
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Ummm,we were talking about whats in the Bible were we not?Im simply posting whats in there.Quite frankly I dont give a flying fuck if you believe it or not,or if you think there is some invisible jew in the sky dictating things.BUT if your going to quote the Bible,quote it right and dont distort it.
EXACTLY!! That is the point I am making.
Maybe you should go and ask Queen Nancy since she obviously is connected to this magic man you refer to.
Follow along closer and you won't need to get lost in rhetorical postings like this.
The fact Nancy - or anyone else - is making decisions that affect other people besides herself while based on the principles of someone that she can't even follow to the letter is ridiculous. There is no true source for what God's word is. There is only the writings of feeble minded men thousands of years ago that were GUESSING at what they THOUGHT God's word is. The bible is nothing more than a collection of contradictions of what man WANTED God's word to be at that time.
The fact that someone is taking liberties in their interpretation based on the interpretations of other men, who clearly took their own liberties with it at the time is laughable.
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Hopefully that goes for masterbation as well.
Masturbation is becoming more and more accepted as a positive treatment and therapeutic method for sex addicts and anxiety cases with most shrinks nowdays.
True story. Not sure why they would just be getting around to what everyone else could have deduced with common sense.
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Masturbation is becoming more and more accepted as a positive treatment and therapeutic method for sex addicts and anxiety cases with most shrinks nowdays.
True story. Not sure why they would just be getting around to what everyone else could have deduced with common sense.
Thats awesome because my cock looks like it has pistlol grips on it.My wife will look at it and ask "how come it bends to the right"?I never say "because Ive been beating off for thirty five years using my right hand".
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I wish no politician would make statements like this but I'm not aware that Jebus ever gave an opinion on gay marriage or abortion.
He didn't have to, since he as a Jew, amongst JEWS, did not need to repeat what was already clear as day based on their moral law. That homosexuality is a sin.
Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
Who the heck was going to come up to Jesus at that time and ask him if he approved of anyone being a fag? When asked about marriage, he didn't present union between homos as an option.
Now, since the word is inspired by God and Jesus was God incarnate, the words by Apostle Paul are from Jesus himself. Since the Holy Spirit would only speak what was given to him by the Son:
John 16:7-8 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
John 16:13-14 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
So what Apostle Paul stated in his epistles came from Jesus himself via the Holy Spirit. Paul addressed homosexuality. What did Jesus teach him to say? The following:
Romans 1:26-27 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Timothy 1:9-10 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
How do you defile yourself? By having sex with your own gender. Leviticus 18:22-23 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.
The teachings of Paul and the apostles are from Jesus himself and the foundation of Christianity.
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Jesus was qouted as saying (paraphrasing) The old testament says this.... (eye for an eye for example) but I say this....(turn the other cheek)
So to say Jesus didn't change anything from the old laws isn't all that accurate.
One thing I think is ironic that many Christians don't discuss often is that Jesus spoke extensively about divorce in Matthew saying if you divorce for any reason other than adultery, and remarry, you commit adultery and cause the person you marry to commit adultery. He then goes on to list those who will NOT enter the kingdom of heaven.. and of course adulterers are on the list..
Since so many christians are divorced and remarried more than a couple times...it's not a very popular subject..
Usually it's the same folks pointing out how awful homosexuality is that have a couple divorces under their belts... ::)
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Yeah where does it say God is pro-abortion? He's pro genocide, but not pro abortion, and there are no comments on gay marriage that i can recollect.
Try and keep up 33333. Are you thinking that because I wouldn't vote for bachmann that means I will vote for Pelosi?
What kind of logic is that? ::)
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Try and keep up 33333. Are you thinking that because I wouldn't vote for bachmann that means I will vote for Pelosi?
What kind of logic is that? ::)
No - its called you get all worked up when bachmann does it and did not say squat when pelosi did it. double standards.
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Supporting the war in which (US) soldiers, and innocent civilians are being killed daily isn't a sin, but being pro choice is? ???
correct... what are you trying to get at ova hea...
lol
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No - its called you get all worked up when bachmann does it and did not say squat when pelosi did it. double standards.
Dude, I didn't get all worked up, people were debating me over it. So i debated back, thats what this forum is about. Just as if someone here would debate me about whether or not pelosi's statements were correct. No one did, so no debate from me. I would have loved for someone to try to legitimatize pelosi's statements. If that happened I am sure loco, McWay would have joined in.
33333, please please please try and keep up.
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The ever pius Nancy Pelosi ::)
(http://thepeoplescube.com/red/gallery/supercommissar-maksim-a34/pelosi-spot-the-difference-i2926.jpg)