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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: lesaucer on June 01, 2010, 04:34:28 PM
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Looks good. I like the effort you put into this. Personally I would use adex on cycle instead of letro. Letro kills estradiol which you need to keep elasticity in your bones. Adex will do the trick as far as estrogen control goes. 1mg e3d should work very well.
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watch out for that dbol and accutane cycle....
you getting blood work done monthly on that?
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i would hold the accutane, most people's acne clear up while on cycle.... mine does!
only to come back during the dreaded PCT period.
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I tried dbol while on accutane and lasted 10 days before I had this internal pain under my right ribs. was probably my liver! Dropped the dbol and few days later was fine. Don't fuxk with orals if you are on accutane
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thats right I hear ya about the adex, but in the end both do the same job, just that letro is crazy strong so you gotta use wayyy less than adex. going to start at like .3mg twice a week, see whats up with the estro and bump it if I need to.
Yes but adex does not wipe out your estradiol like letro does. People see lots of bone pain and injury when on letro vs adex.
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Yes but adex does not wipe out your estradiol like letro does. People see lots of bone pain and injury when on letro vs adex.
indeed...
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bab
sick cycle bro..your gonna be dead by 20 if you keep running those kind of doses tho
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yep thats true, but most people use like 1-1.5mg e3d thinking that they get wayy less than needed for sides,wrong. letro is so strong, you need the biggest pussy dose, I heard some reviews about people using it around .20mg 2 times a week, supposedly had their estrogen controlled without sides. anyway, gonna try it soon so ill keep you all updated
any noticable gains yet?
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havent started yet, looks like my source fucked me up with the test and hcg, been almost 40days and still no bro knocking on my door
40 days isnt very long......they have been known to take their time with those letters...
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the accutane is really questionable for several reasons. most dont even realize it began as cancer therapy. will cause lots of nose bleeds,hair loss and chap the fuck out of your lips
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the accutane is really questionable for several reasons. most dont even realize it began as cancer therapy. will cause lots of nose bleeds,hair loss and chap the fuck out of your lips
Yep, they are also starting to see a link between accutane, and crohns disease. Pretty nasty stuff that if you can avoid, should be avoided.
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40 days isnt very long......they have been known to take their time with those letters...
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thats hella long...
even for intl. :-X
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thats hella long...
even for intl. :-X
I would bet that its gone, lifted by customs.
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I would bet that its gone, lifted by customs.
thats the letter i was talking about...
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update: going to add eq for my tendons. dont wanna tear something and fuck up my cycle.
gonna be: test e: 250mg e3d wk 1-16. dbol: 30-40mg for 4-6 weeks. eq 400mg ew 1-15, tren a 50mg ed wk 6-14 or sooner depending how i feel. pct: hcg 350mg ed for 2 weeks starting after last shoot of test. and then nolva 40-50mg ed for 2 weeks, 20mg 3 weeks.
not running hcg during cycle, dont want any acne.
why not bump the test up to 750? I would definitely run that before running tren bro. ::) an amp of test e3d is too low.
Also you dont need to run it 16 fucking weeks. That leaves room for two cycles a year if pct is gonna be included. Equipoise is a weak steroid dude run deca. If you run 10 or 8 week cycles more time to experiment with different drugs to find what works for you throughout the year. Also 16 weeks sounds easy to do but its very hard.
here is a diesel cycle about to run myself
750mg test
400mg decaI would do 600 if I could afford it
dbol
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why not bump the test up to 750? I would definitely run that before running tren bro. ::) an amp of test e3d is too low.
Also you dont need to run it 16 fucking weeks. That leaves room for two cycles a year if pct is gonna be included. Equipoise is a weak steroid dude run deca. If you run 10 or 8 week cycles more time to experiment with different drugs to find what works for you throughout the year. Also 16 weeks sounds easy to do but its very hard.
here is a diesel cycle about to run myself
750mg test
400mg decaI would do 600 if I could afford it
dbol
An amp of test E3D for a first cycle isn't enough? Really? Where did you get your info from. That would be over 583.33mg test ew on average. Didn't you just run your very first cycle just recently? You're already giving out this kind of BS advice?
BTW that cycle is no where diesel, its no more than a standard bulking cycle that guys have been doing for years.
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An amp of test E3D for a first cycle isn't enough? Really? Where did you get your info from. That would be over 583.33mg test ew on average. Didn't you just run your very first cycle just recently? You're already giving out this kind of BS advice?
BTW that cycle is no where diesel, its no more than a standard bulking cycle that guys have been doing for years.
afraid of deca, scared to run more than 500mg of test but is running fucking tren for a first cycle! Am I the only one who sees what is wrong with this picture?
And yes 4th I am aware that the deca/test/dbol classic has been used before me ;)
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583mg test ew is plenty for a first, 16 weeks because its my fucking first and I will probably keep gaining until the end of the entire cycle so why stop when you're still making gains?
I know eq is not very powerful esp at only 400mg but i only use it for my tendons so i dont tear a fucking muscle, could use deca for that too but imo; better vascularity, more collagen synthesis, maybe increased hunger, better cardio > a little bit more strength, watery look, getting shut down hard.
and even if eq is a weak sauce, im gonna crank up that tren a anyway so dont worry about my gains k?
also another reason I said run 750mg test too is because you said your "shit got seized so your stuck with shitty ugl" and ugl is underdosed alot.
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also another reason I said run 750mg test too is because you said your "shit got seized so your stuck with shitty ugl" and ugl is underdosed alot.
Give me a break. UG test is overdosed quite often as well. Stick to learning for a while before you start giving out advice.
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Why arent you mixing the test and Eq together?
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because I wanted to know which one it was if i was feeling pain, but zero pain so will mix them up now
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Keep us posted!!
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You havent been training in 2 months? Did i read that right? And you wanna start a cycle?
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cest koi ton cycle finalement
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What name brands of gear are you using?
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alright so almost 3 weeks on now. 15pounds up. had to lower the dbol dose, I was feeling fatigued and sick, no appetite and got some nosebleeds. so lowered it and now I think I found my sweet spot for it feeling good, good appetite and great feeling. quads seems to be less and less sore from inject every week, i guess the muscle is getting used to the oil. Strength increased ALOT, muscles are pumped up like balloons, and im feeling awesome. + I have almost zero acne now lol... gear gives you acne my ass
LOL at pinning quads on your first cycle. Theres fellas that pin prop eod same glute for months. I have done nothing but glutes for 4 months straight no problem. I once asked a doctor about pinning quads and he said I was nuts.
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what do you have against quad shots? when i was runnin test E twice a week thats all i used
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alright so almost 3 weeks on now. 15pounds up. had to lower the dbol dose, I was feeling fatigued and sick, no appetite and got some nosebleeds. so lowered it and now I think I found my sweet spot for it feeling good, good appetite and great feeling. quads seems to be less and less sore from inject every week, i guess the muscle is getting used to the oil. Strength increased ALOT, muscles are pumped up like balloons, and im feeling awesome. + I have almost zero acne now lol... gear gives you acne my ass
You need to rotate those injections bro. You can get whats called a sterile abscess from injecting to frequently in the same spot. If your getting nose bleeds its best that you drop the dbol dose. Gear will give you some acne depending, on the compounds used, estrogen levels, and a few other factors. Make sure you drink plenty of water, 1-2 gallons ed.
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what do you have against quad shots? when i was runnin test E twice a week thats all i used
Quad shots are fine. Some people have problems with them, but if they work for you then who gives a fuck what someone else says.
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what do you have against quad shots? when i was runnin test E twice a week thats all i used
nothing againt it I am just saying that the internet gurus are a bunch of bs. You have guys pinning human grade gear smooth as silk, with 25g needles, :D, running three cycles per year who are using their fucking quads because they are afraid of scar tissue.
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quads shots are the worst..dangerous to shoot there esp if you dont have a lot of experience.
A kid in my gym recently went into shock after he nicked a vein and accidentally shot Tren in there. It wasnt his first cycle either and had done plenty of quad shots before.
Glutes is the best and easiest place to pin. you can fuck up shooting glutes and you will be fine since theres plenty of cushion for the pushing back there...however i can recount many bad quad shots that i personally experienced.
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aspirate every time and you'll never end up in a vein :) personally quads are my favorite
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quads shots are the worst..dangerous to shoot there esp if you dont have a lot of experience.
A kid in my gym recently went into shock after he nicked a vein and accidentally shot Tren in there. It wasnt his first cycle either and had done plenty of quad shots before.
Glutes is the best and easiest place to pin. you can fuck up shooting glutes and you will be fine since theres plenty of cushion for the pushing back there...however i can recount many bad quad shots that i personally experienced.
Come on man where do you guys come up with this stuff? Dangerous, really? You have veins in your ass too ya know. Thats why we aspirate every time we inject!
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Come on man where do you guys come up with this stuff? Dangerous, really? You have veins in your ass too ya know. Thats why we aspirate every time we inject!
ya i know we have veins in ass too, but more in quads..and ass has alot more fat ..more cushion for the pushing.
and of course we aspirate, but the chances of hitting a vein in quads is higher than hitting vein in glutes.
quads used to be my favorite place too, till i learned to shoot glutes. hehe
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if you aspirate Your chances of ending up in a vein are 0%....easier to aspirate on a quad shot too
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how does more fat help when doing an INTRAMUSCULAR shot
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because the ass has more fat, it has less nerves..hences chance of hitting a nerve are less than shooting quads.
and of course you aspirate to avoiding shooting into a vein..but that doesnt mean you cant hit or nick a vein while you actually plunging down the needle..ass has veins too but more in quads.
why do you think doctors give 90% shots in glutes?
its not cuz they like looking at mens asses thats for sure
but if quad shots werk for you, then thats cool and to each his own
tehe
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because the ass has more fat, it has less nerves..hences chance of hitting a nerve are less than shooting quads.
and of course you aspirate to avoiding shooting into a vein..but that doesnt mean you cant hit or nick a vein while you actually plunging down the needle..ass has veins too but more in quads.
why do you think doctors give 90% shots in glutes?its not cuz they like looking at mens asses thats for sure
lol lets see them argue with that, rather do delts over quads any day.
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well according to gh15
gh/insulin = delts
aas = glutes
right? ;D
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every shot i've gotten from a Dr was in my delt actually but passing thru or nickin a vein doesn't matter as long as you don't inject into the blood stream changing It from IM to IV..i guess It comes down to personal preference but i have never had a problem with quad shots and as long as you follow proper protocol you won't either...but hey if glutes work for you then keep on pinnin brother
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thanks man, I rotate legs for every injection, im doing 2 per week so basically, im shooting only once per week at the same spot, think im protected from those sterile abscess doing this? I do aspirate every time. yep and also guys I do very little water retention, lean face and body, while still having awesome sex drive and no joints pain, simply by using letro at 0.3mg twice a week. so far quads shots are perfect except for some oil pain 2 days after. test+eq= medistar, dbol= naposim
are you fucking serious! I thought you were running tren too thats why you were doing quads but your running test alone and NOT pinning glutes. I promise you will not get an abscess I have been doing glutes for 4 months straight no problem.
4th has a problem with the kids on this board giving advice even if we are right.. 4th this isnt a dick measuring contest bro so quit the bullshit of telling newbs to pin quads when the biggest, most muscular bodypart is your ass. I sware man every time I post your right there questioning it when most of the time I am right.
ps Did you know that pinning glutes also results in better absorbtion of the hormone and highest blood plasma levels of the drug compared to any other injection spot?
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are you fucking serious! I thought you were running tren too thats why you were doing quads but your running test alone and NOT pinning glutes. I promise you will not get an abscess I have been doing glutes for 4 months straight no problem.
4th has a problem with the kids on this board giving advice even if we are right.. 4th this isnt a dick measuring contest bro so quit the bullshit of telling newbs to pin quads when the biggest, most muscular bodypart is your ass. I sware man every time I post your right there questioning it when most of the time I am right.
ps Did you know that pinning glutes also results in better absorbtion of the hormone and highest blood plasma levels of the drug compared to any other injection spot?
I believe Delts have the highest concentration of androgen receptors and better absorption rate IIRC
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I believe Delts have the highest concentration of androgen receptors and better absorption rate IIRC
its hard to find information on this topic so I am not saying you are wrong, but in medical studies where nandrolone was given to patients the highest blood plasma level was when the glutes were used, compared to delts. I believe Bill Roberts said the same.
I will try to find it.
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I have a problem with guys like you who have hardly even run a cycle giving out advice. listen learn for a minute and I promise you will look back later and think wow was I nieve(did I spell that right?). Noobs can shoot quads just as easily as shooting glutes or any other place on the body. You have a very good chance of hitting nerves(and a major one at that) shooting glutes as your sciatic nerve runs through the area.
When you are shooting just test you may get away with shooting glutes only, but when you run multiple compounds that are all short esters and you are pinning ed, trust me you will utilize your quads. There is no time like the present to learn how to successfully shoot quads. The absorption rate in the glutes is old news, but do you really think it makes much difference?
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are you fucking serious! I thought you were running tren too thats why you were doing quads but your running test alone and NOT pinning glutes. I promise you will not get an abscess I have been doing glutes for 4 months straight no problem.
4th has a problem with the kids on this board giving advice even if we are right.. 4th this isnt a dick measuring contest bro so quit the bullshit of telling newbs to pin quads when the biggest, most muscular bodypart is your ass. I sware man every time I post your right there questioning it when most of the time I am right.
ps Did you know that pinning glutes also results in better absorbtion of the hormone and highest blood plasma levels of the drug compared to any other injection spot?
I believe I said something to you one time. Get over it, we can all be right when we copy and paste ;D
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every shot i've gotten from a Dr was in my delt actually but passing thru or nickin a vein doesn't matter as long as you don't inject into the blood stream changing It from IM to IV..i guess It comes down to personal preference but i have never had a problem with quad shots and as long as you follow proper protocol you won't either...but hey if glutes work for you then keep on pinnin brother
amen brother ;)
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I have a problem with guys like you who have hardly even run a cycle giving out advice. listen learn for a minute and I promise you will look back later and think wow was I nieve(did I spell that right?). Noobs can shoot quads just as easily as shooting glutes or any other place on the body. You have a very good chance of hitting nerves(and a major one at that) shooting glutes as your sciatic nerve runs through the area.
When you are shooting just test you may get away with shooting glutes only, but when you run multiple compounds that are all short esters and you are pinning ed, trust me you will utilize your quads. There is no time like the present to learn how to successfully shoot quads. The absorption rate in the glutes is old news, but do you really think it makes much difference?
Definately. While injecting short ester you want to have as many spots as possible.
For example, when I did Prop/Tren/Mast
Glute,Glute,Quad,Quad,Delt,Delt,Chest,Chest,Ventro-Glute.
Quads are so easy for me. Never had a problem.
Standing up, put your arm to your side of your quad...That is where u want to hit it..Leave your quad relaxed..and go for it..
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well i'm half way thru my first cycle and have studied for hours on how to use the copy button...i even learned a shortcut you press the C key while holding the Ctrl key to copy faster...i was even gonna change my name to Gh16-5thAd(plus one to each cuz i'm better) so does this mean i'm really not a guru?? cuz i viewed my copy and pasting skills to be that of a master, me...jerseymuscles, a guru amongst gurus..Lmaooo
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well i'm half way thru my first cycle and have studied for hours on how to use the copy button...i even learned a shortcut you press the C key while holding the Ctrl key to copy faster...i was even gonna change my name to Gh16-5thAd(plus one to each cuz i'm better) so does this mean i'm really not a guru?? cuz i viewed my copy and pasting skills to be that of a master, me...jerseymuscles, a guru amongst gurus..Lmaooo
Think you fit more of this category ;D ;D ;D
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can't pull up links on my phone...what is It
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Think you fit more of this category ;D ;D ;D
haha
lots of those homos down here in montreal
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haha
lots of those homos down here in montreal
didnt know they had guidos in montreal?
are they real italians? or just canadian punks posing as italians?
NJ is a breeding ground for guidos tho, you havent seen shit till you been to the jersey shore...btw love that show.
season 2 starts this thursday
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didnt know they had guidos in montreal?
are they real italians? or just canadian punks posing as italians?
NJ is a breeding ground for guidos tho, you havent seen shit till you been to the jersey shore...btw love that show.
season 2 starts this thursday
well montreal is abit different from the rest of canada... theres alot of different ethnicities here its a different way of life here
they arent guidos like in jersey shore, but you always see them try and stand out and act all big and say "brooooo" "what da fuck" "me i did this" etc etc bullshit like that
they dont look like them but act wise theyre like the guy on the video lol (most not all italians)
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if you aspirate Your chances of ending up in a vein are 0%....easier to aspirate on a quad shot too
Not true.
You could wiggle the pin a millimeter while pressing on the plunger and hit anything.
My worst injection was a pain free delt injection that left me crippled on the floor gasping for breath for 3 mins and it was just a 2cc shot of HG test.
There are no absolutes in this game.
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Also i nominate lesaucer for "most common user of the word fucking" award.
This thread makes me sad, so much horrible info and the mods/vets are being ignored.
I wonder how many of you will survive past 30.
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Also i nominate lesaucer for "most common user of the word fucking" award.
This thread makes me sad, so much horrible info and the mods/vets are being ignored.
I wonder how many of you will survive past 30.
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if only Munzer were still alive, he'd make a great mod giving out solid advices
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Also i nominate lesaucer for "most common user of the word fucking" award.
This thread makes me sad, so much horrible info and the mods/vets are being ignored.
I wonder how many of you will survive past 30.
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Its the GB way anymore brother!
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if only Munzer were still alive, he'd make a great mod giving out solid advices
Thats actually funny, BRAVO:)