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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: theworm on June 03, 2010, 06:44:39 PM
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whats the average cost of real human grade GH? my doc says its thousands of dollars a month.
also, do people cycle it like test?
and do you worry about cancer with GH? seems like if u had some low grade malignancy, it would make it grow like crazy.
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Gh is very expensive through a US compounding pharmacy...I loved gh until I came off of it this time around..I had some pretty nasty side effects which are getting better each day...its been almost 4 weeks and I'm just starting to feel normal again...do you have cancer in your family?
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Gh is very expensive through a US compounding pharmacy...I loved gh until I came off of it this time around..I had some pretty nasty side effects which are getting better each day...its been almost 4 weeks and I'm just starting to feel normal again...do you have cancer in your family?
What kind of muscle mass gains did you see from the GH?
Does it live up the hype or no?
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What kind of muscle mass gains did you see from the GH?
Does it live up the hype or no?
Most people see the kind of gains where their muscles appear bigger. Some may see the kind where their muscles appear larger though.
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Most people see the kind of gains where their muscles appear bigger. Some may see the kind where their muscles appear larger though.
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I said "most" people. You'll still look like a midget giraffe.
At least you'll have less money.
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I said "most" people. You'll still look like a midget giraffe.
At least you'll have less money.
wow.
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Gh is awesome for recovery and burning fat...I gain lean muscle mass from it and look fuller...nothing beats AAS for strength and size
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Gh is awesome for recovery and burning fat...I gain lean muscle mass from it and look fuller...nothing beats AAS for strength and size
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water retention in the muscle, layer of skin and belly
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Gh is very expensive through a US compounding pharmacy...I loved gh until I came off of it this time around..I had some pretty nasty side effects which are getting better each day...its been almost 4 weeks and I'm just starting to feel normal again...do you have cancer in your family?
Why didn't you use peptides to get your pituitary to produce on its own right away. Less than 1 hour post injection produces a nice spike of YOUR own gh.
It's like HCG for your pituitary.
100mcg of ghrp6, or ghrp2(if you're not sensitive to minimal prolactin and cortisol increase, some also say it effects their sleep)
100mcg of mod grf (1-29)
It's effects can be felt quickly. Only down side I've noticed about peps is the water retention. Just like gh, it will cause some bloat, so it's not good if you're going to do a show.
Once in the am and right before bed. You will sleep like a baby just like if you are on gh.
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whats the average cost of real human grade GH? my doc says its thousands of dollars a month.
also, do people cycle it like test?
and do you worry about cancer with GH? seems like if u had some low grade malignancy, it would make it grow like crazy.
Cheapest I know of is $350 for 100ius. I know lots of people say they pay less.
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whats the average cost of real human grade GH? my doc says its thousands of dollars a month.
also, do people cycle it like test?
and do you worry about cancer with GH? seems like if u had some low grade malignancy, it would make it grow like crazy.
It depends on what your getting, the generic stuff is as low as $1.00 an iu, if get something like humatrope or serostim it's gonna be more like $9.00-$10.00 an iu. It just depends really on who you know, I've seen the name brand stuff go anywhere from $300-$1200. Also keep in mind if you buy in bulk that's gonna effect the price as well. In my opinion GH works really well, but it depends on your goals. Nothing will put mass and strength on as well as AAS, but GH changes more of your bodys look than anything else. The scale doesn't change that much with GH, but your look will. GH is also great for repairing the body in so many different ways. My advice to most would be if you've reached a point with your physique where nothing seems to be changing and your diet and training is in check and you've reached a plateau with AAS then GH would be perfect under those circumstances. One last thing considering ones age would be in that equation as well.
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It depends on what your getting, the generic stuff is as low as $1.00 an iu, if get something like humatrope or serostim it's gonna be more like $9.00-$10.00 an iu. It just depends really on who you know, I've seen the name brand stuff go anywhere from $300-$1200. Also keep in mind if you buy in bulk that's gonna effect the price as well. In my opinion GH works really well, but it depends on your goals. Nothing will put mass and strength on as well as AAS, but GH changes more of your bodys look than anything else. The scale doesn't change that much with GH, but your look will. GH is also great for repairing the body in so many different ways. My advice to most would be if you've reached a point with your physique where nothing seems to be changing and your diet and training is in check and you've reached a plateau with AAS then GH would be perfect under those circumstances. One last thing considering ones age would be in that equation as well.
If this were true as far as GH goes then how come in the days of pumping iron guys were on a shitload of human grade deca,dbol,test, all the same AAS we use today...... but bodybuilders back then hardly even looked like they worked out compared to nowadays
Gh can put on a shitload of size... look at the fella Spike on here...see his old pics before he started GH and slin? Looked like nothing compared to now...
I know guys who put on ALOT of size after gh. However they were all running high doses. (over 6 IU per day for close to a year straight. MAybe it wasn't the GH but the GH allowed the steroids to work better or some shit. Who knows, but I will say that they were nothing special on AAS alone until dabbling with the growth.
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Gh wont put a lot of mass on
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at 5iu a day it sure wont :D
most people who have ran GH will say that in order to see gains in size 8-10 iu is needed.
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If this were true as far as GH goes then how come in the days of pumping iron guys were on a shitload of human grade deca,dbol,test, all the same AAS we use today...... but bodybuilders back then hardly even looked like they worked out compared to nowadays
Gh can put on a shitload of size... look at the fella Spike on here...see his old pics before he started GH and slin? Looked like nothing compared to now...
I know guys who put on ALOT of size after gh. However they were all running high doses. (over 6 IU per day for close to a year straight. MAybe it wasn't the GH but the GH allowed the steroids to work better or some shit. Who knows, but I will say that they were nothing special on AAS alone until dabbling with the growth.
"If this were true as far as GH goes then how come in the days of pumping iron guys were on a shitload of human grade deca,dbol,test, all the same AAS we use today...... but bodybuilders back then hardly even looked like they worked out compared to nowadays"....That's one of the boldest statements I've ever heard my friend, 99.999% of the people on this and every other board couldn't even come close to achieving the look of any of those guys !!! and what makes it even more comical is guys today have many more available items than those guys ever could've dreamed of !! Also AAS and GH work extremely well together, but without AAS GH doesn't work as well. Just out of curiousity have you ever used GH ??
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"If this were true as far as GH goes then how come in the days of pumping iron guys were on a shitload of human grade deca,dbol,test, all the same AAS we use today...... but bodybuilders back then hardly even looked like they worked out compared to nowadays"....That's one of the boldest statements I've ever heard my friend, 99.999% of the people on this and every other board couldn't even come close to achieving the look of any of those guys !!! and what makes it even more comical is guys today have many more available items than those guys ever could've dreamed of !! Also AAS and GH work extremely well together, but without AAS GH doesn't work as well. Just out of curiousity have you ever used GH ??
First of all those guys in pumping iron would not even be able to look like they work out when standing in a tshirt compared to todays average juiced up gym rat on hgh and AAS.
This has nothing to do with who can achieve what...no shit not everyone can be Arnold and those guys. But bodybuilders are way bigger today. See gym rats at 260 pounds and lean at 5 11 which you did not see back in that day EVER!
Arnold was 6 2 and weighed almost 30 pounds less.
Never said I used GH did I ever say that?
I said I have talked to friends and have seen them change over the course of the year and they told me exactly what I said. AAS with GH (in high enough doses) is extremely powerful and is much more powerful than steroids alone.
It is funny how tstmaniac also said he didn;t gain much size from GH...that is because he was on 5iu's per day.
If he ran 8 per day the results would probably be different.
Ask Spike how much he would weigh without gh...
I would say he would be stuck at 230 soaking wet.
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Gh wont put the size on you that test will no matter how much gh your on...i never went up to 8ius a day because i dont want gh gut and a caveman head..gh is great for lean muscle,shredding fat, and better muscle shape...its also great for repairing injuries...why dont you actually try it instead of analyzing other peoples gains
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Gh wont put the size on you that test will no matter how much gh your on...i never went up to 8ius a day because i dont want gh gut and a caveman head..gh is great for lean muscle,shredding fat, and better muscle shape...its also great for repairing injuries...why dont you actually try it instead of analyzing other peoples gains
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Why didn't you use peptides to get your pituitary to produce on its own right away. Less than 1 hour post injection produces a nice spike of YOUR own gh.
It's like HCG for your pituitary.
100mcg of ghrp6, or ghrp2(if you're not sensitive to minimal prolactin and cortisol increase, some also say it effects their sleep)
100mcg of mod grf (1-29)
It's effects can be felt quickly. Only down side I've noticed about peps is the water retention. Just like gh, it will cause some bloat, so it's not good if you're going to do a show.
Once in the am and right before bed. You will sleep like a baby just like if you are on gh.
How do you feel about CJC-1295?
Alone and after hgh?
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GH=LEAN,SOME WATER RETENTION+LOTS OF BENEFITS+3D LOOK
INSULIN=MASS
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still think u cannot beat good ol test.
very cheap, effective, and safe.
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GH is still too hit and miss up here in Canada for fuck sakes. The money I've wasted over this shit. First time I think I got legit GH I came down with H1N1 but did feel a lot different. My hands and feet are a lot bigger. The shoes I got last fall are way too tight on my feet now. Even if you're running legit GH, it seems like the general consensus is that a lot needs to be run in order to see decent gains.
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still think u cannot beat good ol test.
very cheap, effective, and safe.
Agreed
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How do you feel about CJC-1295?
Alone and after hgh?
I wouldn't run any peptide alone after gh.
Always combine ghrp(growth hormone producing peptide) ie;ghrp6, ghrp2, Ipamorelin, Hexarelin with GHRH (growth hormone releasing hormone) modified Sermorelin(grf 1-29) aka modified GRF (1-29).
100mcg of mod grf
plus 100mcg of one of the other 4
Hexa has the strongest gh spike, ghrp2 also has a strong gh spike but both raise other stess hormones and prolactin(read up before trying these). Ipa and ghrp 6 are the safest with minimal sides. Ghrp6 increases gastric motility ( makes you take a dump and makes your hungry, not good for contest or dieting) that's why it's better to take g6 before bed. Ipa doesn't have much sides but isn't as strong as the others.
CJC1295 with DAC, instead of causing gh pulsation, it causes gh bleed which can last for days. This has more similarities with female pattern gh release than male, not good! I've heard some venders sell cjc1295 as mod grf1-29 and some call it cjc1293.
I would avoid cjc1295 altogether. I would look for a vender that has modified Sermorelin aka mod grf1-29.
Some venders now refer to mod grf1-29 as cjc1293.
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so again, whats the agerage cost?
600 bucks?
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so again, whats the agerage cost?
600 bucks?
Anywhere between 300-700 usd and you are not getting raped... (provided that the guy selling you is at least a somewhat stand up man) and you are actually getting real hgh... I'd rather pay more for something that i know is good than pinch pennies for god knows what...
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ok, but a bottle of HG test is around 100 bucks,
i do 400mg a week, so thats about 80 bucks a month. much cheaper than gh, and probably as effective as putting on lean body mass... :-X
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ok, but a bottle of HG test is around 100 bucks,
i do 400mg a week, so thats about 80 bucks a month. much cheaper than gh, and probably as effective as putting on lean body mass... :-X
Yeah, hgh is taking it to another level at least with slin, also i don't think it's "fair" to compare the two since hgh does much more than just builds muscle, but i get your point...
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but all i care about is building muscle ;)
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GH is a waste of money for the average juicer, it's an expensive fat burner at low doses and you need to use really high doses to achieve any sort of "mass" gains.
Peptides seem to be more common now but the chances of getting legit forms of them are very slim.
Save your money for more Test and food.
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GH is a waste of money for the average juicer, it's an expensive fat burner at low doses and you need to use really high doses to achieve any sort of "mass" gains.
Peptides seem to be more common now but the chances of getting legit forms of them are very slim.
Save your money for more Test and food.
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Agreed
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so again, whats the agerage cost?
600 bucks?
For generics:
International - $150/kit incl. shipping
Domestic - $250-300/kit
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GH is a waste of money for the average juicer, it's an expensive fat burner at low doses and you need to use really high doses to achieve any sort of "mass" gains.
Peptides seem to be more common now but the chances of getting legit forms of them are very slim.
Save your money for more Test and food.
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I don't know man, I just started GH (generic green tops) about 3 months ago (4 iu's ed) for the first time combined with a moderate AAS cycle and the gains I have achieved are above and beyond any gains I have expereinced before. It has given me a totally differant look in terms of muscle not to mention the fat loss is incredable. The cost for my generic GH is only about $27 each week.
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The cost for my generic GH is only about $27 each week.
I would love those prices.