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Title: Can we get an official arguement thread going for this Fedor/Pride stuff?
Post by: LatsMcGee on June 05, 2010, 11:59:35 PM
Seriously fellas,  lets talk about something else for once.  Seems like every thread on here now turns into this shit.  It's almost as bad right now as when Bluto was a mod.  I think Spin does a pretty good job here but all this childish bickering is getting old.   
Title: Re: Can we get an official arguement thread going for this Fedor/Pride stuff?
Post by: FREAKgeek on June 06, 2010, 07:39:02 AM
I agree. It's time to move forward.
Title: Re: Can we get an official arguement thread going for this Fedor/Pride stuff?
Post by: MB_722 on June 07, 2010, 11:13:38 PM
how can anyone move fwd when we can't agree on a common history?

lol this is like nation vs nation.
Title: Re: Can we get an official arguement thread going for this Fedor/Pride stuff?
Post by: MindSpin on June 09, 2010, 02:53:49 PM
I'm not sure what the argument is ???  Yes, Fedor was great in his day.  No, he is not great today.  That's all there's to it.
Title: Re: Can we get an official arguement thread going for this Fedor/Pride stuff?
Post by: gmflex on June 22, 2010, 05:58:43 PM
Fedor Emelianenko was a no-show for Monday's episode of "The MMA Hour" with Ariel Helwani, leaving M-1 Global's Director of Operations, Evgeni Kogan, to answer questions in his stead.

Kogan spent much of his time on the show shooting down rumors about M-1 Global's most famous fighter, saying that he did not think Emelianenko was seriously considering retirement and insisting that neither Emelianenko nor M-1 Global is avoiding a fight with Strikeforce champion Alistair Overeem.

"We have no problem with fighting anyone," Kogan told MMA Fighting's Ariel Helwani. "Fedor doesn't choose his opponents. He will fight whoever is put in front of him."

This Saturday night in San Jose that person is Fabricio Werdum, an opponent who Kogan said would make for an "interesting fight," but conceded that it's not exactly the fight fans have been waiting to see.

"If, in a perfect world, he could be fighting anyone at heavyweight, I think there could be fights that are more interesting," Kogan said. "In a perfect world."


Kogan, who attempted to explain some of M-1's recent moves by claiming that Fedor is the highest paid fighter in MMA, bristled at the notion that Emelianenko needs to face Brock Lesnar or other UFC heavyweights in order to legitimize his legacy.

"[Emelianenko] is at the top of his sport for 10 years. I think to compare him or say he needs to fight people who have had three or four fights or five fights, I don't think it's doing justice to his career. It's not holding him up in the light that he should be held up in. It's not doing him justice."

When asked whether there's still a chance that Fedor might land in the UFC some day, Kogan said he "wouldn't rule anything out."

As for reports that Emelianenko was hinting at retirement during his latest media call, Kogan said that the top heavyweight may have been simply trying to "keep people guessing a little bit," adding that it was his "personal belief" that a potential political career in Russia would not bring about Emelianenko's departure from the sport at the end of his current contract.

Perhaps the most ironic moment of Kogan's appearance on the show was his remark that M-1 plans to "write our own narrative a little bit more" when it comes to how the company is perceived by fans and in the media.

Of course, this came on the same appearance where M-1's star fighter and shareholder was missing in action. Kogan said he had no idea where Emelianenko might be during this scheduled appearance, but suggested that he could be "at the beach" or "in a movie."

Granted, scheduling mix-ups do happen from time to time, but it's hard to write your own narrative in the media when you can't even get your most valuable asset to show up for media appearances during fight week.
Title: Re: Can we get an official arguement thread going for this Fedor/Pride stuff?
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 22, 2010, 06:09:57 PM
Fedor Emelianenko was a no-show for Monday's episode of "The MMA Hour" with Ariel Helwani, leaving M-1 Global's Director of Operations, Evgeni Kogan, to answer questions in his stead.

Kogan spent much of his time on the show shooting down rumors about M-1 Global's most famous fighter, saying that he did not think Emelianenko was seriously considering retirement and insisting that neither Emelianenko nor M-1 Global is avoiding a fight with Strikeforce champion Alistair Overeem.

"We have no problem with fighting anyone," Kogan told MMA Fighting's Ariel Helwani. "Fedor doesn't choose his opponents. He will fight whoever is put in front of him."

This Saturday night in San Jose that person is Fabricio Werdum, an opponent who Kogan said would make for an "interesting fight," but conceded that it's not exactly the fight fans have been waiting to see.

"If, in a perfect world, he could be fighting anyone at heavyweight, I think there could be fights that are more interesting," Kogan said. "In a perfect world."


Kogan, who attempted to explain some of M-1's recent moves by claiming that Fedor is the highest paid fighter in MMA, bristled at the notion that Emelianenko needs to face Brock Lesnar or other UFC heavyweights in order to legitimize his legacy.

"[Emelianenko] is at the top of his sport for 10 years. I think to compare him or say he needs to fight people who have had three or four fights or five fights, I don't think it's doing justice to his career. It's not holding him up in the light that he should be held up in. It's not doing him justice."

When asked whether there's still a chance that Fedor might land in the UFC some day, Kogan said he "wouldn't rule anything out."

As for reports that Emelianenko was hinting at retirement during his latest media call, Kogan said that the top heavyweight may have been simply trying to "keep people guessing a little bit," adding that it was his "personal belief" that a potential political career in Russia would not bring about Emelianenko's departure from the sport at the end of his current contract.

Perhaps the most ironic moment of Kogan's appearance on the show was his remark that M-1 plans to "write our own narrative a little bit more" when it comes to how the company is perceived by fans and in the media.

Of course, this came on the same appearance where M-1's star fighter and shareholder was missing in action. Kogan said he had no idea where Emelianenko might be during this scheduled appearance, but suggested that he could be "at the beach" or "in a movie."

Granted, scheduling mix-ups do happen from time to time, but it's hard to write your own narrative in the media when you can't even get your most valuable asset to show up for media appearances during fight week.

Put a fork in that fat Russian and soak him in vodka....he's done. His era has come and gone.
His management is disgracing the little bit of respect people did have for Fedor with these comments. M-1 reminds me of Affliction in so many ways.
Title: Re: Can we get an official arguement thread going for this Fedor/Pride stuff?
Post by: George Whorewell on June 22, 2010, 08:25:01 PM
I actually thought that was pretty funny.

I've been saying it for months and ill say it again.

He finishes his SF contract beating Overeem and Werdum. He then will fight Barnett in the DREAM promotion.

Once that is over with, he will either retire, or sign a very short deal with the UFC for 2 or 3 fights.

This is all just gamesmanship by M1 in trying to max out for the promotion and Fedor when they go back to the bagraning table with the UFC. Thats all. I wouldn't read into what is being said here too seriously.