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Title: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: Stark on June 16, 2010, 09:36:05 AM
Was it because "we" "was" bleck?

Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: pedro01 on June 16, 2010, 09:42:33 AM
looked to me like one chick resisting arrest and then another wading in to try to 'free her sister'.

She's got off lightly
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: Stark on June 16, 2010, 09:44:31 AM
looked to me like one chick resisting arrest and then another wading in to try to 'free her sister'.

She's got off lightly

Problem is he (as in the cop) will not the best outcome for him would be a descjob some place in the cellar hunting cockroaches.
but I guess they gonna fire him and give the bleck a big paycheck.
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: 4thAD on June 16, 2010, 09:48:53 AM
Looks to me that it was deserved, black or white. She put her nose where it didn't belong, and got punched.
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on June 16, 2010, 09:51:26 AM
Problem is he (as in the cop) will not the best outcome for him would be a descjob some place in the cellar hunting cockroaches.
but I guess they gonna fire him and give the bleck a big paycheck.


If you interfere with a officers arresting a person then the officer can take appropriate action to defend himself, even if its a female.  He'll prob be put in a desk but not fired.      
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: noworries on June 16, 2010, 09:55:36 AM
Was it because "we" "was" bleck?



She got what was coming to her.  One girl resisted and another girl got into it with the officer.  Scumbags like that should be beaten.  To bad the courts and the department won't see it that way.
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: astro on June 16, 2010, 09:55:44 AM
that was one slippery bitch or he's a bit of a weak pussy. either way where was the guy's back-up as it could have gotten real ugly for him real fast. why does everyone in the u.s feel it is their right to resist arrest?
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: dan18 on June 16, 2010, 10:13:42 AM
that was one slippery bitch or he's a bit of a weak pussy. either way where was the guy's back-up as it could have gotten real ugly for him real fast. why does everyone in the u.s feel it is their right to resist arrest?
trust me she got the reaction she was looking for she was trying to egg the guy on now she will sue........set up
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: G_Thang on June 16, 2010, 10:16:18 AM
i'd be more upset if it was michael

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Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: spinnis on June 16, 2010, 10:26:14 AM
I wish he would have hit her more, the fact that shes black doesnt change a thing the could have been white or yellow, acting like a fucking bitch, "get your hands off me" after the assulted a cop, stupid fuckign bitches,

crying and shit, Im sure her pimp hits her harder. maby breast camcer would humble her ass and sure the cop didnt show up for no reason at all.

And why didnt the cop take her DOWN. A cop thats supposed to be there for Yorue security cant even take a woman down?  ::)
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: spinnis on June 16, 2010, 10:28:58 AM
If we want to move onto the "black" angle, I wish they would remove ALL cops for ALL ghettos and watch them come crying for help within 24 hours. Because it sure seems like they dont want them there.
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on June 16, 2010, 10:31:49 AM
If she doesn't fall into a coma you aren't hitting hard enough.
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feeling
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on June 16, 2010, 10:41:02 AM
Seattle isnt really a place for blacks anyways.
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: benchmstr on June 16, 2010, 10:53:25 AM
he didn't do anything wrong, but he still could get fired.....what you have to realize about use of force is that department get crazy with it in their policies.....again, he was in the right, but his department policy could bite him in the ass...

my first department had a policy saying if i used a elbow strike i would face disciplinary actions....my new department pretty much say whatever you have to do..

bench
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: 240 is Back on June 16, 2010, 10:59:08 AM
If you put a hand on a cop, you do deserve to get roughed up a little.
I'm shocked this cop couldn't get her on the ground.

Also, his ass was slipping.  The kid came in and shrugged - he was right behind the cop and could have easily pulled that gun free.

That cop, IMO, just isn't good enough at his job.  Put him on a desk or send him back to traffic dept for 2 years.
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: Wiggs on June 16, 2010, 10:59:29 AM
Resisting arrest...End of story.
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: benchmstr on June 16, 2010, 11:00:07 AM
If you put a hand on a cop, you do deserve to get roughed up a little.
I'm shocked this cop couldn't get her on the ground.

Also, his ass was slipping.  The kid came in and shrugged - he was right behind the cop and could have easily pulled that gun free.

That cop, IMO, just isn't good enough at his job.  Put him on a desk or send him back to traffic dept for 2 years.
doubt he could pull the gun free......since they are locking holsters...

bench
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 16, 2010, 11:02:37 AM
looks good.
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: Croatch on June 16, 2010, 11:03:34 AM
I don't like idiots like this. He should have gone with the upper cut.  Black or white, it doesn't matter.
If I were a cop and people gave me lip, I'd club them in a second.  Way too many tough guys out there who don't respect authority.
You stfu and cooperate when a cop asks you a question.
Strange, these situations never seem to happen to me?
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: 240 is Back on June 16, 2010, 11:16:16 AM
doubt he could pull the gun free......since they are locking holsters...

bench

It it just a thumb release that lets the gun go free? 

We had a cop here in SW Fl, a few years back.  Got called to a report of gunshots.  Was standing there on the scene and suddenly he hit his panic button on the radio. 

Backup showed up.  he was unconscious.  Gun missing.  Someone knocked him out and took his gun and he didn't have any recollection of what happened.  Crazy.
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: benchmstr on June 16, 2010, 11:28:12 AM
It it just a thumb release that lets the gun go free? 

We had a cop here in SW Fl, a few years back.  Got called to a report of gunshots.  Was standing there on the scene and suddenly he hit his panic button on the radio. 

Backup showed up.  he was unconscious.  Gun missing.  Someone knocked him out and took his gun and he didn't have any recollection of what happened.  Crazy.
some are thumb release, but a lot are level 3.....which means the only way it can be pulled out is if it is attached to you.....i use a safariland level 3 for my H&K MK23......you aint getting it out unless you have a lot of know how...

bench
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: coltrane on June 16, 2010, 11:32:12 AM
<<ENTER BOB CHICHERILLO>>
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: lesaucer on June 16, 2010, 11:39:21 AM
why didnt he just lift that bitch of the ground and dumped her face down on the ground and arrest her in 10 seconds instead of messing around for fucking minutes...noob
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: benchmstr on June 16, 2010, 11:42:06 AM
why didnt he just lift that bitch of the ground and dumped her face down on the ground and arrest her in 10 seconds instead of messing around for fucking minutes...noob
because its a pain in the ass to get off the ground with a full length vest, and gun belt on...and cause he really didnt know what he was doing...

bench
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: 240 is Back on June 16, 2010, 11:42:55 AM
<<ENTER BOB CHICHERILLO>>

i think he has retired from getbig
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: Tre on June 16, 2010, 11:45:02 AM
I can't believe how weak that cop was.

Don't know what the context of that encounter was, but he could've been seriously injured or worse if the mob that gathered had attacked him.  

As for the girl getting 'punched in the face', he merely moved her back away from him after she assaulted him.  It was a glancing blow, hardly a knockout strike, but even if it had bloodied her face, he still would've been in the right, because that big bitch was out of fucking control.

The only Blacks who acted properly during the clip were the ones who encouraged their friend to calm the fuck down while the officer put the handcuffs on.  
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feeling
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on June 16, 2010, 11:54:34 AM
some are thumb release, but a lot are level 3.....which means the only way it can be pulled out is if it is attached to you.....i use a safariland level 3 for my H&K MK23......you aint getting it out unless you have a lot of know how...

bench

lol isnt that one a bit big for carry?
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feeling
Post by: benchmstr on June 16, 2010, 11:58:48 AM
lol isnt that one a bit big for carry?
not really...i dont have anything else on my belt except my gun, and sometimes handcuffs...

i usually carry my operator TRP, or STI tactical 5.0 with a TLR1

bench
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feeling
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 16, 2010, 12:07:44 PM
Scares me how many incompetent cops are out there.  Weak fat fucks and women have no business being Cops. Cops should be Allowed and encouraged to take steroids and there should be a height requirement  6 feet tall or better, no exceptions. Women can be cops but only administrative
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: spinnis on June 16, 2010, 12:08:50 PM
because its a pain in the ass to get off the ground with a full length vest, and gun belt on...and cause he really didnt know what he was doing...

bench

Just grab ahold of her shoulders and "sweep the leg" and lay her down, and skip the "lay down" if you want it to hurt, not veru hard especially to a fucking woman
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feeling
Post by: benchmstr on June 16, 2010, 12:09:29 PM
Scares me how many incompetent cops are out there.  Weak fat fucks and women have no business being Cops. Cops should be Allowed and encouraged to take steroids and there should be a height requirement  6 feet tall or better, no exceptions. Women can be cops but only administrative
that actually used to be a rule for most departments here in texas, including state troopers.....but a mexican female sued the fuck out of them, cause no mexican woman has ever been 6' tall ;D

bench
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: Alex23 on June 16, 2010, 12:10:09 PM
Scares me how many incompetent cops are out there.  Weak fat fucks and women have no business being Cops. Cops should be Allowed and encouraged to take steroids and there should be a height requirement  6 feet tall or better, no exceptions. Women can be cops but only administrative

Swede's feelings = hurt.

Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: benchmstr on June 16, 2010, 12:10:56 PM
Just grab ahold of her shoulders and "sweep the leg" and lay her down, and skip the "lay down" if you want it to hurt, not veru hard especially to a fucking woman
his problem was he was trying to grab her hands....he should have just grabbed the arm, and slammed her ass into that car they were standing by...

bench
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: spinnis on June 16, 2010, 12:11:08 PM
Swede's feelings = hurt.



Dont worry bro, you wouldn't pass the physical = being able to run for 30 sec  ;D
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feeling
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 16, 2010, 12:15:29 PM
Swede should get a job at Disneyland as an elf...he would be awesomd
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: Nails on June 16, 2010, 12:16:51 PM
That was the worst Right Hand power punch ever thrown in history.. Cop needs to go back to training manual when dealing with loud black woman.. 150,000 volts of electricity running thru both their systems would have settled those bitches in a second... and ALL over what a $15?? $20?? J-walking ticket
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: Overload on June 16, 2010, 12:19:59 PM
All within reason.

He should have swept the leg and smashed her face into the pavement.

If I tried to break up a fight with a cop i would get tasered. She is lucky he barely hit her, that wasn't even a punch, it was an arm swing that hardly even hit her.

I can't imagine the feeling that cop had during the altercation, he was probably shitting his pants and didn't know how to control the situation.


8)
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: Army of One on June 16, 2010, 12:23:38 PM
She attacked him first trying to push him off her friend, theres an angry mob around him, I dont see him getting in any trouble for this.
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: benchmstr on June 16, 2010, 12:24:44 PM
bench
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: Chick on June 16, 2010, 12:48:46 PM
All within reason.

He should have swept the leg and smashed her face into the pavement.

If I tried to break up a fight with a cop i would get tasered. She is lucky he barely hit her, that wasn't even a punch, it was an arm swing that hardly even hit her.

I can't imagine the feeling that cop had during the altercation, he was probably shitting his pants and didn't know how to control the situation.


8)


Correct...He handled it incorrectly from the start...should have called for back up immediately with that many people around, it could have gotten out of hand very fast.

THat said, if you're going to take someone down, you need to do just that...not dance around making it worse and aggitating the crowd.

Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: Stark on June 16, 2010, 12:51:17 PM

Correct...He handled it incorrectly from the start...should have called for back up immediately with that many people around, it could have gotten out of hand very fast.

THat said, if you're going to take someone down, you need to do just that...not dance around making it worse and aggitating the crowd.



I guess the question we are all dying to ask, in your career as law enforcement officer did you ever had to punch somebody in the face?
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: Nails on June 16, 2010, 12:53:26 PM
Woman or only good for TWO things picture include to illustrate



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Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: leadhead on June 16, 2010, 01:02:48 PM
I would have Rodney King'd her ass >:(. I wouldn't last very long as a cop because I'd want to shoot/beat down all the rejects that try resisting arrest and run
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: vic86 on June 16, 2010, 01:07:28 PM
[/youtube] talk about Cop atrocities damn this is worst >:(
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: Nails on June 16, 2010, 01:12:02 PM
[/youtube] talk about Cop atrocities damn this is worst >:(


Did these dudes get the dogs for advertising their brand of beer at the World Cup??? ???
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: Stark on June 16, 2010, 01:14:20 PM
[/youtube] talk about Cop atrocities damn this is worst >:(

I think this is quite sporting - not that I understand the rules but it looks like a lot of fun to be honest
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: TK652 on June 16, 2010, 01:17:28 PM
After further review....

O'Neill forcefully defended Walsh's actions.

"The focus needs to be on the two individuals," O'Neill said. "If you watch the entire video, he is trying to de-escalate the situation, first by voice commands, then by taking her by the wrists, and then she reacts by pulling away and swinging.

"My critique is that he could have used more force and taken the girl to the ground," O'Neill said. "He could have grabbed her, it's called a leg sweep, handcuffed her and it would have been over a lot faster, but when you take someone to the ground you risk more injury."


At least that what his boss had to say...

Looks like Swede and Overlord have been studing the Seattle police manuals.
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: FREAKgeek on June 16, 2010, 02:42:43 PM
I would of tasered them both.

I would of tasered the annoying guy with the cellphone just for fun.
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feeling
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on June 16, 2010, 03:46:02 PM
not really...i dont have anything else on my belt except my gun, and sometimes handcuffs...

i usually carry my operator TRP, or STI tactical 5.0 with a TLR1

bench

oh forgot you were a cop, thought you were just some guy trying to concealed carry that thing  ;D
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feeling
Post by: benchmstr on June 16, 2010, 04:57:13 PM
oh forgot you were a cop, thought you were just some guy trying to concealed carry that thing  ;D
i dont conceal shit...

bench
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: Nails on June 16, 2010, 04:57:39 PM
They should take this cop back to the station an beat him with a water hose for not laying her ass out.... but then again that was just too much of a pathetic punch to do any damage  

(http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/159737-3/Cop_punches_woman.gif)
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: Chick on June 16, 2010, 05:07:33 PM
I guess the question we are all dying to ask, in your career as law enforcement officer did you ever had to punch somebody in the face?

Yes sir...never a woman though. Had to take a few down, but nothing past that
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: Robgun1 on June 16, 2010, 05:09:05 PM
They should fire that fuckwads ass.  Not only should he have slapped both those bitches but it took him way fuckin too long to cuff that ho.
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feeling
Post by: drkaje on June 16, 2010, 06:24:05 PM
She was interfering, race has nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feeling
Post by: bigdumbbell on June 16, 2010, 06:43:09 PM
She was interfering, race has nothing to do with it.
who the hell does she think she is...interfering with an officer
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: splank on June 16, 2010, 07:15:35 PM
and cause he really didnt know what he was doing...

bench

X 2. That could have been very bad for him. He needs to watch the video and learn from his mistakes.
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feeling
Post by: splank on June 16, 2010, 07:17:20 PM
Women can be cops but only administrative

Fuck no they can't. Well I guess it depends on what your definition of administrative is :-\
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: G_Thang on June 16, 2010, 08:30:07 PM
all pu$$ies. 

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the skulls... >:(
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on June 16, 2010, 08:56:57 PM
I can't believe how weak that cop was.

Don't know what the context of that encounter was, but he could've been seriously injured or worse if the mob that gathered had attacked him.  

As for the girl getting 'punched in the face', he merely moved her back away from him after she assaulted him.  It was a glancing blow, hardly a knockout strike, but even if it had bloodied her face, he still would've been in the right, because that big bitch was out of fucking control.

The only Blacks who acted properly during the clip were the ones who encouraged their friend to calm the fuck down while the officer put the handcuffs on.  



ONCE AGAIN YOU'RE WRONG TRE


The officer stopped a man for jaywalking and the women went and butt their noses in for no reason.  The officer was fully justified in his actions.  As an officer we're trained in offensive and defensive skills which includes boxing and officers are free to utilize a close handed punch and striking elbows if neccessary.

The only mistake he made was trying to handle the situation with kid gloves.  I would have planted her ass on the car hood, cuffed her, and thrown her into the squad car just like that and anyone that encroached my space would have been told to back up or get mase in the face.  In addition, I would have called for a little backup as well

Whenever I was taking down rowdy inmates in a pod, I always kept eyes in the back of my head for other inmates to jump in because sometimes they do and if you work there long enough they will do so.



Fortunately the Seattle Police Officers Guild is standing by the officers decision as well as the union and the dept which they should.  The officer did his job and while he should have used more force in subduing that lady in a quick matter, he shouldn't be punishing for defending himself.  There was no racism involved whatsoever. 

He hit her because SHE ATTTACKED HIM FIRST. 

Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: what: on June 16, 2010, 09:22:30 PM


ONCE AGAIN YOU'RE WRONG TRE


The officer stopped a man for jaywalking and the women went and butt their noses in for no reason.  The officer was fully justified in his actions.  As an officer we're trained in offensive and defensive skills which includes boxing and officers are free to utilize a close handed punch and striking elbows if neccessary.

The only mistake he made was trying to handle the situation with kid gloves.  I would have planted her ass on the car hood, cuffed her, and thrown her into the squad car just like that and anyone that encroached my space would have been told to back up or get mase in the face.  In addition, I would have called for a little backup as well

Whenever I was taking down rowdy inmates in a pod, I always kept eyes in the back of my head for other inmates to jump in because sometimes they do and if you work there long enough they will do so.



Fortunately the Seattle Police Officers Guild is standing by the officers decision as well as the union and the dept which they should.  The officer did his job and while he should have used more force in subduing that lady in a quick matter, he shouldn't be punishing for defending himself.  There was no racism involved whatsoever. 

He hit her because SHE ATTTACKED HIM FIRST. 


::)
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: Voice of Doom on June 16, 2010, 09:35:53 PM
You cannot have a police state without police.
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on June 16, 2010, 09:51:10 PM
all pu$$ies. 

(http://www.securicar-consultor.com/useruploads/images/BopeField_logo-full.jpg)

the skulls... >:(

i agree,......if you saw how BOPE would react to a situation like this, those blacks would be praying for that pudgy white cop



the fact that this is even an issue, a police officer being attacked by someone while he is trying to arrest someone else,...............just re-affirms how DOOMED america is.........we are being swallowed up into a toilet filled to the brim with complacence, hypocrisy, bleeding hearts, and white guilt.........we need to be flushed into the sewer



the was a great country ONCE..............and if the world survives,,,,,our story will be told as a cautionary tale akin to the fall of the roman empire.........the more things change the more they stay the same
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: The RedMeatKid on June 23, 2010, 12:39:18 PM
Police work is 20% instinct and 80% pumping iron and taking roids.
Title: Re: Getbig crew report in - Seattle cop punches black woman in da face - feelings?
Post by: The RedMeatKid on June 23, 2010, 02:53:07 PM

Correct...He handled it incorrectly from the start...should have called for back up immediately with that many people around, it could have gotten out of hand very fast.

THat said, if you're going to take someone down, you need to do just that...not dance around making it worse and aggitating the crowd.


WTF does Bob Chick know about police procedure; he was a mall cop/crossing guard before he went to work as a Weider flunky.