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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: gh15 on June 18, 2010, 07:37:26 PM
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I know you prefer HG gear but what is you opinion on the old Mexican gear compared to UG? Would you consider those to be on the same levels(Mexican and UG) as far as quality? I tried several of the Mexican anabolics years ago and liked a few of them. QV Test E and QV dbol from what I can remember.
old mexican gear was real hormones,,,shitty sterility but real hormones,,ug now days is 90 percent bunk,,only thing i recomend is human grade unless you know the source of the powders real well and even then i recomend to keep testosterone human grade
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old mexican gear was real hormones,,,shitty sterility but real hormones,,ug now days is 90 percent bunk,,only thing i recomend is human grade unless you know the source of the powders real well and even then i recomend to keep testosterone human grade
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Agreed
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this isnt a question that could be answered cut-and-dry either............i mean, there were a few of those old mex labs that were ok (denkall, QV)...........but by and large i would trust the shit coming from some of the more popular UGL's then any of those dirty old mex labs
remember ttokyo??............what were some of the names of some other shitty labs from back then.....fort dodge(good ketamine)?.......remember Tornel........HAHA..../..remember Brovel.. ;D ;D ;D..
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all the qv i used to get was real hormones.....real underdosed hormones...
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this isnt a question that could be answered cut-and-dry either............i mean, there were a few of those old mex labs that were ok (denkall, QV)...........but by and large i would trust the shit coming from some of the more popular UGL's then any of those dirty old mex labs
remember ttokyo??............what were some of the names of some other shitty labs from back then.....fort dodge(good ketamine)?.......remember Tornel........HAHA..../..remember Brovel.. ;D ;D ;D..
brovel was an experience.....sometimes you get 100mg/ml of test, other bottles it could be 500mg/ml of test.....every bottles dosage was different, but they were all labeled the same at 250mg/ml ;D
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tornell was the bomb
25 bucks for a 10 ml vial 200mg per ml
worth every penny
pre 2006
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old mexican gear was real hormones,,,shitty sterility but real hormones,,ug now days is 90 percent bunk,,only thing i recomend is human grade unless you know the source of the powders real well and even then i recomend to keep testosterone human grade
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You seem to imply with this post, along with the others that you have recently posted, that ug testosterone is more likely to be fake than the other anabolics. Why would that be when testosterone is the cheapest and more available when compared to Eq, Deca, Primo, Tren, Mast....
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You seem to imply with this post, along with the others that you have recently posted, that ug testosterone is more likely to be fake than the other anabolics. Why would that be when testosterone is the cheapest and more available when compared to Eq, Deca, Primo, Tren, Mast....
Not fake exactly.. low purity and not as effective as human grade. Like I mentioned in the other thread - its hit or miss with UG labs because the raws that they use are not always top notch.
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Not fake exactly.. low purity and not as effective as human grade. Like I mentioned in the other thread - its hit or miss with UG labs because the raws that they use are not always top notch.
But it seems like gh15 is implying the problem is more pronounced with testosterone than with the other compounds. Some mentioned when commenting on Lewellyn's book where he tested a lot of popular UG labs that if a lab can't produce a decent testosterone product chances are their primo, deca, eq are even worse. Seemed to make sense to me. gh15 seems to say it's harder to get decent test than other compounds.
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But it seems like gh15 is implying the problem is more pronounced with testosterone than with the other compounds.
I don’t know why he would imply that. Quality control is a crapshoot across the board.. any hormone powder coming out of china.. test, primo, whatever.
Some mentioned when commenting on Lewellyn's book where he tested a lot of popular UG labs that if a lab can't produce a decent testosterone product chances are their primo, deca, eq are even worse. Seemed to make sense to me. gh15 seems to say it's harder to get decent test than other compounds.
Anyone testing UG labs most likely did not test the purity of the hormone itself.. only the milligram amount in each vile.
You can get 2 different batches of test E, they will both test out just fine, indeed testosterone ehthanate. One will be 99%+ pure, the other 94% pure.
The 99% batch will rock your world, the 94% will be barely noticeable.. No matter the dose.
UG labs are at the mercy of the raw powder they receive - that is the problem, the quality of the raw powder is hit or miss.. you cant depend on it.
Testosterone is the most commonly ordered hormone, so that will obviously be the measure used to determine a UG labs worth.. Just because you have so many people testing it, everyone is familiar with the effects of testosterone, so it will make or break the labs reputation.
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I don’t know why he would imply that. Quality control is a crapshoot across the board.. any hormone powder coming out of china.. test, primo, whatever.
Anyone testing UG labs most likely did not test the purity of the hormone itself.. only the milligram amount in each vile.
You can get 2 different batches of test E, they will both test out just fine, indeed testosterone ehthanate. One will be 99%+ pure, the other 94% pure.
The 99% batch will rock your world, the 94% will be barely noticeable.. No matter the dose.
UG labs are at the mercy of the raw powder they receive - that is the problem, the quality of the raw powder is hit or miss.. you cant depend on it.
Testosterone is the most commonly ordered hormone, so that will obviously be the measure used to determine a UG labs worth.. Just because you have so many people testing it, everyone is familiar with the effects of testosterone, so it will make or break the labs reputation.
very good,,see heres a fella who knows hsi bodybuilding well,,
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very good,,see heres a fella who knows hsi bodybuilding well,,
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James001 is such a show off.
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gh15 = the only threads worth reading round here anymore
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James001 is such a show off.
haha, he knows exactly what to say to make GH melt ;D ;D
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gh15 = the only threads worth reading round here anymore
Indeed. I'm glad he's back. 8)
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Anyone testing UG labs most likely did not test the purity of the hormone itself.. only the milligram amount in each vile.
You can get 2 different batches of test E, they will both test out just fine, indeed testosterone ehthanate. One will be 99%+ pure, the other 94% pure.
The 99% batch will rock your world, the 94% will be barely noticeable.. No matter the dose.
wrong!!!!
the only thing that matters is the amount of hormones in your blood stream.
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all the qv i used to get was real hormones.....real underdosed hormones...
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I remember the QV burning real bad going in and not disbursing right away leaving a knot for days.
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Aww, I remember the good ol' days of SWIM (Someone who isn't me) smuggling ttokyo shit across the Loredo-Nuevo boarder....
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I remember the QV burning real bad going in and not disbursing right away leaving a knot for days.
i can still feel the qv enan 250 ;D ;D
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wrong!!!!
the only thing that matters is the amount of hormones in your blood stream.
Thats what I was thinking. Maybe James can elaborate on what he meant.
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Thats what I was thinking. Maybe James can elaborate on what he meant.
Yeah doesnt make a lot of sense, GH your english is very good today compared to yesterdays PM Q's congrats. Just busting your balls a little friend.
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this isnt a question that could be answered cut-and-dry either............i mean, there were a few of those old mex labs that were ok (denkall, QV)...........but by and large i would trust the shit coming from some of the more popular UGL's then any of those dirty old mex labs
remember ttokyo??............what were some of the names of some other shitty labs from back then.....fort dodge(good ketamine)?.......remember Tornel........HAHA..../..remember Brovel.. ;D ;D ;D..
Hahahaha remember This
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I remember the QV burning real bad going in and not disbursing right away leaving a knot for days.
the worst pain i ever got was from denkall supertest 400.......i still have a knot in my thigh from a 2cc injection from 5 years ago....
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gh15, how do you rate this?
Caspian Tamin Androne 250
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gh15, how do you rate this?
Caspian Tamin Androne 250
He only answers when you PM
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wrong!!!!
the only thing that matters is the amount of hormones in your blood stream.
All hormone powder are not created equal, quality varies.
Hormone purity/quality makes a difference in effectiveness.
In my experience, low purity powder is crap. Maybe the impurities degrade or alter the hormone in some way.. affecting efficacy. Who knows, but something is going on there.
For whatever reason, low purity powder is not nearly as effective as a high purity powder.
I’ve used high purity powder at 250mg a week that beat the hell out of low purity powder at 600mg + a week.
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gh15, how do you rate this?
Caspian Tamin Androne 250
whoa- where'd you find those?
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All hormone powder are not created equal, quality varies.
Hormone purity/quality makes a difference in effectiveness.
In my experience, low purity powder is crap. Maybe the impurities degrade or alter the hormone in some way.. affecting efficacy. Who knows, but something is going on there.
For whatever reason, low purity powder is not nearly as effective as a high purity powder.
I’ve used high purity powder at 250mg a week that beat the hell out of low purity powder at 600mg + a week.
Correct. My workout partner was doing a gram a week of some shit that we grew off of before. He ran for 10 weeks and didn't get anything out of it. I figured he would be blowing me away during workouts. You just never know from batch to batch.
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whoa- where'd you find those?
It's not my pic, but I got a hold of some of these locally (I don't do the internet thing). Mine expire september this year, bigger chance that they aren't counterfeits probably (as opposed to very recently manufactured amps)?
Have you tried them? A few experienced guys I know rate them very highly.
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It's not my pic, but I got a hold of some of these locally (I don't do the internet thing). Mine expire september this year, bigger chance that they aren't counterfeits probably (as opposed to very recently manufactured amps)?
Have you tried them? A few experienced guys I know rate them very highly.
i wish- i too have heard the are supposed to be very good, but they haven't made their way up here yet. i asked a friend to keep an eye out.
ever notice when good product like this always crop up it isn't usually for very long, so you kinda have to get them when you can cause you don't know when the next time will be.
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It's not my pic, but I got a hold of some of these locally (I don't do the internet thing). Mine expire september this year, bigger chance that they aren't counterfeits probably (as opposed to very recently manufactured amps)?
Have you tried them? A few experienced guys I know rate them very highly.
got them once instead of reg irans (which i ordered) same thing. i like the galenikas and testovis a lot better. If you get the opp, spend the extra cash bc its worth it.
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gh15, how do you rate this?
Caspian Tamin Androne 250
very good,,
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All hormone powder are not created equal, quality varies.
Hormone purity/quality makes a difference in effectiveness.
In my experience, low purity powder is crap. Maybe the impurities degrade or alter the hormone in some way.. affecting efficacy. Who knows, but something is going on there.
For whatever reason, low purity powder is not nearly as effective as a high purity powder.
I’ve used high purity powder at 250mg a week that beat the hell out of low purity powder at 600mg + a week.
of course it does. if one powder is 98% usp grade testosterone. and the other powder is 70% testsoterone. then the total hormone per ml in the fninished product will be lower, and thus less effective.
simple use a little bit more of the 70% version, and VWALA!! same effect
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simple use a little bit more of the 70% version, and VWALA!! same effect
Not in my experience.
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Not in my experience.
That could simply be your genetic response my friend.
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Sry but I'll take HG amps over ANY UG Test any day.
Just my 2 cc's 8)
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Sry but I'll take HG amps over ANY UG Test any day.
Just my 2 cc's 8)
I would too if I knew where to get it. :-\
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the problem is that the kids who get the 65% bad quality powder dont know its 65% and they either put in the vial exactly 200mg not 400 or they think that the p9owder is good and 97% and say oh we can underdose it and make all vials 100mg ,,the result is ,,,you see the efect of the test enantate after 7 weeks insted of after 2 ,,
when it comes to human grade there is one thing that is sure 100% and it is your quality of powder is the highest possible and its tested,,and they will always dose it right within 20-30mg at the most btu when the powder is so pure those 20mg wont mean much
also testosterone long ester is the most wanted test by bodybuilders and any one who lift,,dealers will prefer keeping it for themselves while sending your way test prop,,happens all over the place,,
when it comes to human grade yuo know test enantate = test enantate and 250=250 ,,you know that week2 come and boom thickness is there ,,its just happens always any time anyplace with poressure or with out pressure ,,with en9ough calories or with out ,,it just happens my friends
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gh15 seems like he knows a lot but why doesn't he remove usernames when he starts threads like this? What a douche.
I didn't ask him to. I don't care if he posts my name or not. I've been clean for years and have nothing to hide.
To Coach- all the Mexican gear I used had way too much alcohol in it, especially QV. I had to time my injections around leg day so I wouldn't be as sore while working them. I even tried supertest 400 once and the pain was so bad I never tried another Mexican product again ;D