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"It will never happen in a million years. They are a minor league. Listen I have come to the realization and everyone else needs to too; that Fedor [Emeliananko] doesn’t want to fight the best guys in the world. Believe me when I tell you guys I have done everything in my power, I have flown to crazy parts of the world, done all this stuff, been on the phone for hours, not hung out with my kids on weekends because I’m on the phone with these lunatics and just can’t make the deal. They don’t want to do it so we gotta get over it."
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Honestly, I think there is no doubt Fedor is afraid of fighting the best guys in the UFC. His record would be tarnished. The money is in the UFC too, so this can't be his excuse.
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The best way to describe Fedor is that he was the best of an era.
That era is long gone. It is clear Fedor makes plenty of money outside of the UFC and he feels he has nothing left to prove.
As frustrating as it is, I can't say I blame him for staying away from the UFC.
Fedor is smart, and no matter how skilled you are, it is impossible to match up with guys like Carwin and Brock who weigh a lean 290+lbs in the ring and are skilled athletes, when he is a fat 225. They are not as technical as Fedor, but simple physics will tell you that the odds are slim for Fedor against these monsters.
The day Fedor loses his #1 ranking will be when he retires. He keeps fighting number 10 ranked guys and the polls will start catching up to him and his scheme.
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The best way to describe Fedor is that he was the best of an era.
That era is long gone. It is clear Fedor makes plenty of money outside of the UFC and he feels he has nothing left to prove.
As frustrating as it is, I can't say I blame him for staying away from the UFC.
Fedor is smart, and no matter how skilled you are, it is impossible to match up with guys like Carwin and Brock who weigh a lean 290+lbs in the ring and are skilled athletes, when he is a fat 225. They are not as technical as Fedor, but simple physics will tell you that the odds are slim for Fedor against these monsters.
The day Fedor loses his #1 ranking will be when he retires. He keeps fighting number 10 ranked guys and the polls will start catching up to him and his scheme.
Yeah, I tthink he is afraid of tarnishing his stats. I don't thnk he's afraid to fight these guys.. but more afraid of not being undefeated. I think he could fair well in the UFC, but i don't think he would last long as undefeated.
Kinda a shame though. You're right though... he is the best of a dying breed
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Yeah, I tthink he is afraid of tarnishing his stats. I don't thnk he's afraid to fight these guys.. but more afraid of not being undefeated. I think he could fair well in the UFC, but i don't think he would last long as undefeated.
Kinda a shame though. You're right though... he is the best of a dying breed
Agree 100%. He is afraid of a loss. Until he loses, there will always be a mystique to Fedor, which in the end could cement his place in history and financially after he retires.
IMO if he won or lost, I would respect him more if he fought the guys/fights that MMA fans want to see.
For example, Couture doesn't have the best record in MMA, but he has ALWAYS stepped up and fought the guys everyone wants to see him fight. That is a real MMA legend to me. Not some guy who just has a stellar record.
Honestly, who really cares about his fight with Werdum? Fedor is supposed to win, and I bet 75% of current MMA fans barely know who Werdum is. That is just the direction the sport has taken, and all the 'old-timers' hate it, but it's the way it is now.
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Once again, Fedor is 100% spot-on with his analysis of the joke that is the UFC and its HW division.
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Once again, Fedor is 100% spot-on with his analysis of the joke that is the UFC and its HW division.
Fill me in.. what is Fedor's analysis of the UFC HW division?
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Once again, Fedor is 100% spot-on with his analysis of the joke that is the UFC and its HW division.
Fedor has outed himself. Not that it wasn't obvious what's really important to him.
Fedor Emelianenko: "I'd like to finish my career without any losses."
http://www.fiveknuckles.com/mma-news/Fedor-Emelianenko-Id-like-to-finish-my-career-without-any-losses.html (http://www.fiveknuckles.com/mma-news/Fedor-Emelianenko-Id-like-to-finish-my-career-without-any-losses.html)
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I can't think of one UFC HW that has even earned a shot at Fedor. Brock should pay his dues for 3-4 years against some top competition (aka not 60-year-old cans) but by then Fedor will have definitely retired.
He should fight Overeem, call it a career and go down as the greatest MMA fighter to ever live.
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I can't think of one UFC HW that has even earned a shot at Fedor. Brock should pay his dues for 3-4 years against some top competition (aka not 60-year-old cans) but by then Fedor will have definitely retired.
He should fight Overeem, call it a career and go down as the greatest MMA fighter to ever live.
Do you think Hong Man Choi earned his shot at Fedor in his second MMA fight EVER?
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I can't think of one UFC HW that has even earned a shot at Fedor. Brock should pay his dues for 3-4 years against some top competition (aka not 60-year-old cans) but by then Fedor will have definitely retired.
He should fight Overeem, call it a career and go down as the greatest MMA fighter to ever live.
More like HAS FEDOR earned a shot at a UFC top HW....
Fedor is totally ducking the UFC HW division.
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Do you think Hong Man Choi earned his shot at Fedor in his second MMA fight EVER?
Of course he does! He also thinks Frank Mir isn't a big name in MMA.
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I can't think of one UFC HW that has even earned a shot at Fedor. Brock should pay his dues for 3-4 years against some top competition (aka not 60-year-old cans) but by then Fedor will have definitely retired.
He should fight Overeem, call it a career and go down as the greatest MMA fighter to ever live.
What did Hong Man Choi do to "earn" a shot at fedor ??? The guys record is 2-3-0...lol ::)
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More like HAS FEDOR earned a shot at a UFC top HW....
Fedor is totally ducking the UFC HW division.
Exacly. The more I think about it Dana needs realize that it would be a disgrace to the UFC to bring that sham group of Russians to the UFC.
You are correct. It is a privilege to be in the UFC and Fedor has blown his chance. You don't piss on the biggest show in town.
I think Dana has made it clear that Fedor's invitation is no longer good.
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;D ;D ;D
for all the UFC guy's ::)
fedor doesn't care what you think....
Top-ranked heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko said today that he doesn't think much of the promotion that's so aggressively courted him for more than three years.
"I'm not a UFC fan," Emelianenko said when asked if his June 26 headliner against Fabricio Werdum at "Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Werdum" is more relevant than an a UFC title-unification bout between champ Brock Lesnar and interim title-holder Shane Carwin at UFC 116.
"I would invite all the fans to watch our fight, which I believe is more important," he said through translator Steven Bash.
The winner of Emelianenko (31-1 MMA, 1-0 SF) vs. Werdum (13-4-1 MMA, 2-0 SF) is expected to fight current Strikeforce heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem, who in May defended his title against Brett Rogers.
Overeem and his managers have sparred in the press with Emelianenko's representatives over the potential bout and have traded accusations as to the the long-anticipated fight's delay.
Emelianenko, who this past August signed a three-fight contract with Strikeforce after intense negotiations with the UFC, did not back off his statements when later asked to clarify.
"I'm not a fan of watching [the UFC's] fights," he said. "Compared to a lot of the commercials and promotion in anticipation of their fights, and compared to a lot of the shows I've seen, there seems to be a lot of negativity involved in their shows.
"So I'm just not a fan of watching their programs."
It was the first time Emelianenko took a direct shot at the UFC's product. In the three years since the Russian became a free agent with the shuttering of PRIDE Fighting Championships, he shied away from criticizing the industry-leading fight promotion.
UFC president Dana White alternately has blasted Emelianenko and coveted his services.
"I've signed Brock Lesnar, who came from the WWE, James Toney from boxing - he's a nut chasing me all over the place - Tito Ortiz, whom I hated, and he hated me," White told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) in an interview following UFC 115. "I've kept Chuck Liddell, kept Matt Hughes, kept Rich Franklin, when they were all champions. Anderson Silva, I've dealt with all the crazy [expletive] with him.
"But I can't sign Fedor? How is this possible that I can't sign this guy? It's not possible. These guys don't want to fight the best in the world."
Emelianenko said his dislike of the UFC stems from how its fights are presented and the fighters it employs.
"I think a combination," he said. "And also, in some ways, (it's due to) the actions and the behavior of a lot of fighters from the UFC. It takes away from the sport."
In the past, Emelianenko's manager, Vadim Finkelchtein, has addressed White's claims. But today, the manager and M-1 Global president was silent.
Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker said today that "Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Werdum" has crossed the 10,000 mark in ticket sales, and he expects a full house at the HP Pavilion in San Jose, Calif., for the event.
For more on "Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Werdum," check out the MMA Rumors section of MMAjunkie.com.
teamfedor.com
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;D ;D ;D
for all the UFC guy's ::)
fedor doesn't care what you think....
Top-ranked heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko said today that he doesn't think much of the promotion that's so aggressively courted him for more than three years.
"I'm not a UFC fan," Emelianenko said when asked if his June 26 headliner against Fabricio Werdum at "Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Werdum" is more relevant than an a UFC title-unification bout between champ Brock Lesnar and interim title-holder Shane Carwin at UFC 116.
"I would invite all the fans to watch our fight, which I believe is more important," he said through translator Steven Bash.
The winner of Emelianenko (31-1 MMA, 1-0 SF) vs. Werdum (13-4-1 MMA, 2-0 SF) is expected to fight current Strikeforce heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem, who in May defended his title against Brett Rogers.
Overeem and his managers have sparred in the press with Emelianenko's representatives over the potential bout and have traded accusations as to the the long-anticipated fight's delay.
Emelianenko, who this past August signed a three-fight contract with Strikeforce after intense negotiations with the UFC, did not back off his statements when later asked to clarify.
"I'm not a fan of watching [the UFC's] fights," he said. "Compared to a lot of the commercials and promotion in anticipation of their fights, and compared to a lot of the shows I've seen, there seems to be a lot of negativity involved in their shows.
"So I'm just not a fan of watching their programs."
It was the first time Emelianenko took a direct shot at the UFC's product. In the three years since the Russian became a free agent with the shuttering of PRIDE Fighting Championships, he shied away from criticizing the industry-leading fight promotion.
UFC president Dana White alternately has blasted Emelianenko and coveted his services.
"I've signed Brock Lesnar, who came from the WWE, James Toney from boxing - he's a nut chasing me all over the place - Tito Ortiz, whom I hated, and he hated me," White told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) in an interview following UFC 115. "I've kept Chuck Liddell, kept Matt Hughes, kept Rich Franklin, when they were all champions. Anderson Silva, I've dealt with all the crazy [expletive] with him.
"But I can't sign Fedor? How is this possible that I can't sign this guy? It's not possible. These guys don't want to fight the best in the world."
Emelianenko said his dislike of the UFC stems from how its fights are presented and the fighters it employs.
"I think a combination," he said. "And also, in some ways, (it's due to) the actions and the behavior of a lot of fighters from the UFC. It takes away from the sport."
In the past, Emelianenko's manager, Vadim Finkelchtein, has addressed White's claims. But today, the manager and M-1 Global president was silent.
Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker said today that "Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Werdum" has crossed the 10,000 mark in ticket sales, and he expects a full house at the HP Pavilion in San Jose, Calif., for the event.
For more on "Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Werdum," check out the MMA Rumors section of MMAjunkie.com.
teamfedor.com
Doesn't like "how the UFC's fights are presented" WTF?
How is Strikeforce much different other than the amateur style they have.
Fedor is a joke. His era is done. All he is doing at this point is disgracing himself.
I am actually doubtful that he is even writing this stuff.
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;D ;D ;D
for all the UFC guy's ::)
fedor doesn't care what you think....
Top-ranked heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko said today that he doesn't think much of the promotion that's so aggressively courted him for more than three years.
"I'm not a UFC fan," Emelianenko said when asked if his June 26 headliner against Fabricio Werdum at "Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Werdum" is more relevant than an a UFC title-unification bout between champ Brock Lesnar and interim title-holder Shane Carwin at UFC 116.
"I would invite all the fans to watch our fight, which I believe is more important," he said through translator Steven Bash.
The winner of Emelianenko (31-1 MMA, 1-0 SF) vs. Werdum (13-4-1 MMA, 2-0 SF) is expected to fight current Strikeforce heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem, who in May defended his title against Brett Rogers.
Overeem and his managers have sparred in the press with Emelianenko's representatives over the potential bout and have traded accusations as to the the long-anticipated fight's delay.
Emelianenko, who this past August signed a three-fight contract with Strikeforce after intense negotiations with the UFC, did not back off his statements when later asked to clarify.
"I'm not a fan of watching [the UFC's] fights," he said. "Compared to a lot of the commercials and promotion in anticipation of their fights, and compared to a lot of the shows I've seen, there seems to be a lot of negativity involved in their shows.
"So I'm just not a fan of watching their programs."
It was the first time Emelianenko took a direct shot at the UFC's product. In the three years since the Russian became a free agent with the shuttering of PRIDE Fighting Championships, he shied away from criticizing the industry-leading fight promotion.
UFC president Dana White alternately has blasted Emelianenko and coveted his services.
"I've signed Brock Lesnar, who came from the WWE, James Toney from boxing - he's a nut chasing me all over the place - Tito Ortiz, whom I hated, and he hated me," White told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) in an interview following UFC 115. "I've kept Chuck Liddell, kept Matt Hughes, kept Rich Franklin, when they were all champions. Anderson Silva, I've dealt with all the crazy [expletive] with him.
"But I can't sign Fedor? How is this possible that I can't sign this guy? It's not possible. These guys don't want to fight the best in the world."
Emelianenko said his dislike of the UFC stems from how its fights are presented and the fighters it employs.
"I think a combination," he said. "And also, in some ways, (it's due to) the actions and the behavior of a lot of fighters from the UFC. It takes away from the sport."
In the past, Emelianenko's manager, Vadim Finkelchtein, has addressed White's claims. But today, the manager and M-1 Global president was silent.
Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker said today that "Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Werdum" has crossed the 10,000 mark in ticket sales, and he expects a full house at the HP Pavilion in San Jose, Calif., for the event.
For more on "Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Werdum," check out the MMA Rumors section of MMAjunkie.com.
teamfedor.com
Translation: I'm afraid of fighting in the UFC. Please, please come watch me beat up a bottom barrell hw so maybe some will still think i'm the best.
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Careful Coltrane. The fedor nutguggers are going to accuse you of being another MindSpin gimmick :)
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Careful Coltrane. The fedor nutguggers are going to accuse you of being another MindSpin gimmick :)
They know better. lol.
It's funny how Fedor is God-like to them. The guy DOESN"T fight the toughest MMA fighters out there. Period. He is obviously too afraid of tarnishing his record (which is what he cares most about) or he'd fight in the UFC.
How can so many Fedor jock lickers not see thru this bs? The real competition lies in the UFC... not the minor leagues, i.e. strikeforce and the like.
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...AND it's only a matter of time before Fedor's glorious record is tarnished by another minor leaguer.
Until he steps up and fights a Carwin, Randy, Velasquez or Dos Santos (whom, by the way beat Werdum), he's nothing to me.
<<enter the jock lickers>>
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...AND it's only a matter of time before Fedor's glorious record is tarnished by another minor leaguer.
Until he steps up and fights a Carwin, Randy, Velasquez or Dos Santos (whom, by the way beat Werdum), he's nothing to me.
<<enter the jock lickers>>
Don't forget, Werdum also lost to Arvloski.
I am 100% convinced, Fedor is currently a sham and his era has come and gone.
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The most over-hyped MMA fighter of all time...
Hey Horseface, I'm still waiting on a response on how Hong Man Choi earned a chance at Fedor.
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I think it's very interesting all this hatred towards Fedor given that UFC fighters themselves have nothing but respect and deference for the guy. Here is what UFC fighters think of Fedor:
"The UFC is the best organization out there, but there are some fantastic fighters outside the UFC. Obviously, Fedor comes to mind as an example of that..."
Frank Mir, former UFC heavyweight champion
"Emelianenko Fedor"
Mauricio "Shogun" Ruas, current UFC light-heavyweight champion, answering the question of who he thinks is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the World
"Most people in the United States don't know just how good Fedor is. He is very well rounded. From a technical point of view, there are no flaws in him. He is the only fighter who is a master on all aspects of the game."
Randy Couture, former UFC light-heavyweight and heavyweight champion
"Fedor Emelianenko"
George Saint-Pierre, current UFC welterweight champion, answering the question of who he thinks is the best pound-for-pound fighter of the World
"The best fighter in the World, right here. Fedor."
BJ Penn, current UFC lightweight champion, talking about Fedor who was standing right next to him.
"I would need to train from 6 to 12 months to fight him. He is the elite. Right now, I would stand no more than a puncher's chance against him."
Shane Carwin, UFC heavyweight contender, answering the question of who would win in a fight between him and Fedor
"Fedor is the best I ever fought against."
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, former UFC heavyweight champion
"I would love to fight Fedor. The best should absolutely fight the best."
Brock Lesnar, current UFC heavyweight champion
So are a dozen UFC champions from all weight classes wrong about the greatness of Fedor, and internet nobodies like "WeightPSHR" and "MindSpin" right ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
As for fedor having problems with UFC heavyweights because they are too big, Fedor didn't seem to have any problems knocking out with a single punch a 270 lbs guy who is famous for having a rock chin. Size doesen't matter when you have the punching power of a 280 lbs fighter, and it doesen't matter on the ground where leverage comes into the equation and allows a much smaller man to submit a much larger one.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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...AND it's only a matter of time before Fedor's glorious record is tarnished by another minor leaguer.
Until he steps up and fights a Carwin, Randy, Velasquez or Dos Santos (whom, by the way beat Werdum), he's nothing to me.
<<enter the jock lickers>>
UFC jock lickers, always good for a laugh.
That's almost funnier than a 40-year-old man constantly talking to himself on his gimmick to back his retarded arguments up.
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UFC jock lickers, always good for a laugh.
That's almost funnier than a 40-year-old man constantly talking to himself on his gimmick to back his retarded arguments up.
I debated even responding to you due to your lack of MMA knowledge in that you think Frank Mir isn't a big name in fighting.. but I will.
Why hasn't the great amazing Fedor fought Randy then? I bet my life Randy would sign on the dotted line regardless of whether he thought he'd get beat. Reason why he'd sign: Cause he's a real fighter. Loves the challenge.
Fedor hides in the minor leagues so he doesn't get paired up with a great fighter.
Oh, and BTW, "jock-licker" is my term. I should invest in Xerox.
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Fedor is smart, and no matter how skilled you are, it is impossible to match up with guys like Carwin and Brock who weigh a lean 290+lbs in the ring and are skilled athletes, when he is a fat 225. They are not as technical as Fedor, but simple physics will tell you that the odds are slim for Fedor against these monsters.
Fedor beat guys in pride who were WAY bigger and much more skilled than lesnar or carwin. Your point, as usual, is full of shit.
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The most over-hyped MMA fighter of all time...
Hey Horseface, I'm still waiting on a response on how Hong Man Choi earned a chance at Fedor.
I will give you an explanation as soon as you give me one on how lesnar earned a chance at couture.
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He should come to the UFC where he can literally make tens of thousands of dollars...
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Fedor beat guys in pride who were WAY bigger and much more skilled than lesnar or carwin. Your point, as usual, is full of shit.
But dude, Brock is 4-1 and beat a 46-year-old Randy Couture that he was 15 years younger than and outweighed by 50+ pounds, a years-past-his-prime Heath Herring and an overhyped can in Frank Mir. He's the fucking best fighter EVER! ::)
The most ironic part of this Fedor debate is that MindspinPSHR spends more time talking about Fedor than anyone else on here.
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Fedor beat guys in pride who were WAY bigger and much more skilled than lesnar or carwin. Your point, as usual, is full of shit.
That era is over....PRIDE has been gone for YEARS now. Fedor has been exposed.
Does Hong Man Choi count as one that was way bigger?
Brutal opponent for Fedor to pad his record with.
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But dude, Brock is 4-1 and beat a 46-year-old Randy Couture that he was 15 years younger than and outweighed by 50+ pounds, a years-past-his-prime Heath Herring and an overhyped can in Frank Mir. He's the fucking best fighter EVER! ::)
The most ironic part of this Fedor debate is that MindspinPSHR spends more time talking about Fedor than anyone else on here.
All of your petty arguments regarding Fedor as being the best are all moot until he steps up and joins the major leagues in the UFC and fights the best in the world.
What ranking is Werdum these days, like 9th? The top mma heavyweight fighters are the following: carwin, lesnar, velasquez, and dos santos. All UFC fighters. This is where the best fight. Why isn't Fedor fighting in the UFC? Cause he's afraid of getting beat. That's the sole reason. Prove otherwise. You cannot.
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I think it's very interesting all this hatred towards Fedor given that UFC fighters themselves have nothing but respect and deference for the guy. Here is what UFC fighters think of Fedor:
"The UFC is the best organization out there, but there are some fantastic fighters outside the UFC. Obviously, Fedor comes to mind as an example of that..."
Frank Mir, former UFC heavyweight champion
"Emelianenko Fedor"
Mauricio "Shogun" Ruas, current UFC light-heavyweight champion, answering the question of who he thinks is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the World
"Most people in the United States don't know just how good Fedor is. He is very well rounded. From a technical point of view, there are no flaws in him. He is the only fighter who is a master on all aspects of the game."
Randy Couture, former UFC light-heavyweight and heavyweight champion
"Fedor Emelianenko"
George Saint-Pierre, current UFC welterweight champion, answering the question of who he thinks is the best pound-for-pound fighter of the World
"The best fighter in the World, right here. Fedor."
BJ Penn, current UFC lightweight champion, talking about Fedor who was standing right next to him.
"I would need to train from 6 to 12 months to fight him. He is the elite. Right now, I would stand no more than a puncher's chance against him."
Shane Carwin, UFC heavyweight contender, answering the question of who would win in a fight between him and Fedor
"Fedor is the best I ever fought against."
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, former UFC heavyweight champion
"I would love to fight Fedor. The best should absolutely fight the best."
Brock Lesnar, current UFC heavyweight champion
So are a dozen UFC champions from all weight classes wrong about the greatness of Fedor, and internet nobodies like "WeightPSHR" and "MindSpin" right ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
As for fedor having problems with UFC heavyweights because they are too big, Fedor didn't seem to have any problems knocking out with a single punch a 270 lbs guy who is famous for having a rock chin. Size doesen't matter when you have the punching power of a 280 lbs fighter, and it doesen't matter on the ground where leverage comes into the equation and allows a much smaller man to submit a much larger one.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
VERY outdated quotes...Nice try though.
Fedor WAS the best of an era.
His era is up, and he has been exposed.
As he has stated himself, a win is what is most important to him.
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But dude, Brock is 4-1 and beat a 46-year-old Randy Couture that he was 15 years younger than and outweighed by 50+ pounds, a years-past-his-prime Heath Herring and an overhyped can in Frank Mir. He's the fucking best fighter EVER! ::)
The most ironic part of this Fedor debate is that MindspinPSHR spends more time talking about Fedor than anyone else on here.
Brock and Carwin outweigh Fedor by 50+lbs too.
That is exactly why Fedor is afraid.
EPIC self-owning.
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He should come to the UFC where he can literally make tens of thousands of dollars...
Where is he going to make more?
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Bezrk said no UFC Heavyweight has earned a chance to fight Fedor. I ask again, what did Hong Man Choi who has 2 wins (one over Jose Conseco) and 3 losses do to earn his shot at Fedor ???
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Bezrk said no UFC Heavyweight has earned a chance to fight Fedor. I ask again, what did Hong Man Choi who has 2 wins (one over Jose Conseco) and 3 losses do to earn his shot at Fedor ???
WHAT??!!! Oh NOW i've heard it all from this dingdong. First he states Mir isn't a top name, THEN i hear no UFC heavy is worthy of fighting the almighty Fedor.
Pure poppycock.
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I ask again, what did Hong Man Choi who has 2 wins (one over Jose Conseco) and 3 losses do to earn his shot at Fedor ???
Are you seriously asking this question? A payday is a payday.
They fought @ some bullshit event called Yarennoka or whatever it is after the fall of Pride.
Hong was probably the only man with a sac to step up. You point is nil
Now if you would have said why in the hell did Rodgers step around Fedor to get a title shot instead of waiting a few more months. then I 100% agree
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Are you seriously asking this question? A payday is a payday.
They fought @ some bullshit event called Yarennoka or whatever it is after the fall of Pride.
Hong was probably the only man with a sac to step up. You point is nil
Now if you would have said why in the hell did Rodgers step around Fedor to get a title shot instead of waiting a few more months. then I 100% agree
This fight with Hong Man Choi went on Fedor's already padded record.
Not everyone of Fedor's "wins" are against legitimate opponents.
Why is Brock fighting a higher ranked guy in his next fight then Fedor is fighting?
Not to mention Fedor is #1 ranked.
Fedor's game of charades is coming to an end.
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Not everyone of Brocks wins have been against legit opponents, and he only has 5 fights on his resume.
When you have 31 professional fights spanning more than a decade and you never lose in your weight class, you can't fight a number one contender every time out.
Brock is fighting a higher ranked opponent because he has been idle for 6 months while holding onto the UFC belt. He is also fighting someone who has never lost a fight and decimated somebody that has already beaten him.
Arguging that Fedor should be in the UFC is one thing. Comparing Fedor to Brock Lesnar is childish and moronic.
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This fight with Hong Man Choi went on Fedor's already padded record.
Not everyone of Fedor's "wins" are against legitimate opponents.
Why is Brock fighting a higher ranked guy in his next fight then Fedor is fighting?
Not to mention Fedor is #1 ranked.
WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???
Carwin is co #1 in the UFC last time I saw.
Can't get any higher than #1 within the UFC roster can it?
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WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???
Carwin is co #1 in the UFC last time I saw.
Can't get any higher than #1 within the UFC roster can it?
wow. who taught you reading comprehension in grade school?
He's saying that Brock is fighting a higher ranked opponent than Fedor is fighting. Carwin > Werdum.
Man are these guys THICK!
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wow. who taught you reading comprehension in grade school?
He's saying that Brock is fighting a higher ranked opponent than Fedor is fighting. Carwin > Werdum.
Man are these guys THICK!
HAHAHA Me = owned!!! Nice one.
I just jump to conclusions when Weight post anything regarding Fedor, CoCk, UFC, ect....
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HAHAHA Me = owned!!! Nice one.
I just jump to conclusions when Weight post anything regarding Fedor, CoCk, UFC, ect....
Props Hickson.
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Not everyone of Brocks wins have been against legit opponents, and he only has 5 fights on his resume.
When you have 31 professional fights spanning more than a decade and you never lose in your weight class, you can't fight a number one contender every time out.
Brock is fighting a higher ranked opponent because he has been idle for 6 months while holding onto the UFC belt. He is also fighting someone who has never lost a fight and decimated somebody that has already beaten him.
Arguging that Fedor should be in the UFC is one thing. Comparing Fedor to Brock Lesnar is childish and moronic.
Brock has beaten legitimate opponents, but that is subjective and I'll give you that.
You maybe misunderstood me, but I agree, Carwin is a very worthy opponent for Brock. Brock has been fighting top ranked guys since he got to the UFC. That is REMARKABLE for a guy new to MMA.
Fedor's era is over, and what he has done in the past has NOTHING to do with the SHAM he has become today.
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HAHAHA Me = owned!!! Nice one.
I just jump to conclusions when Weight post anything regarding Fedor, CoCk, UFC, ect....
Apology accepted ;D
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Can anyone name a top HW besides Fedor that has fought 3 top 10 HWs (including two top 5 HWs, one who was ranked #2 in the world) in their last 3 fights? Didn't think so. /thread
The fanboys can go home now. :)
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Can anyone name a top HW besides Fedor that has fought 3 top 10 HWs (including two top 5 HWs, one who was ranked #2 in the world) in their last 3 fights? Didn't think so. /thread
The fanboys can go home now. :)
I got a better question that doesn't have all the stipulations....
Can you name the last time a #1 Ranked guy fought a #10 ranked to defend his title?
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Can anyone name a top HW besides Fedor that has fought 3 top 10 HWs (including two top 5 HWs, one who was ranked #2 in the world) in their last 3 fights? Didn't think so. /thread
The fanboys can go home now. :)
Geez. Could you custom tailor your question to fit ONLY Fedor any better? ::) ::) ::)
Go away BF. You're a mental vegetarian on this board.
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I should have mentioned that I won't be bothering to read WeightPSHR aka Mindspin's posts because I can guarantee that they'll be full of excuses skirting around the fact that there isn't a single HW besides Fedor that has fought 3 top 10 HWs (1 ranked #2, another in the top 5 and one who hovers around 5-10) in their last 3 fights.
The truth hurts. 8)
Geez. Could you custom tailor your question to fit ONLY Fedor any better? ::) ::) ::)
Go away BF. You're a mental vegetarian on this board.
What's tailored about it? It's a simple question. Is there another HW besides Fedor that has fought 3 straight top 10 ranked opponents? Stop making excuses and show me one or shut up.
I know it's hard to come to grips with the fact that the fanboy arguments you and the gimmick circle around are completely invalid. \
I'll ask again. Is there another HW, besides Fedor, that has fought 3 top 10 HWs in their last 3 fights? Never mind that Fedor has fought 2 top FIVE HWs and a guy who hovers between 5-10.
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I should have mentioned that I won't be bothering to read WeightPSHR aka Mindspin's posts because I can guarantee that they'll be full of excuses skirting around the fact that there isn't a single HW besides Fedor that has fought 3 top 10 HWs (1 ranked #2, another in the top 5 and one who hovers around 5-10) in their last 3 fights.
The truth hurts. 8)
What's tailored about it? It's a simple question. Is there another HW besides Fedor that has fought 3 straight top 10 ranked opponents? Stop making excuses and show me one or shut up.
I know it's hard to come to grips with the fact that the fanboy arguments you and the gimmick circle around are completely invalid. \
I'll ask again. Is there another HW, besides Fedor, that has fought 3 top 10 HWs in their last 3 fights? Never mind that Fedor has fought 2 top FIVE HWs and a guy who hovers between 5-10.
So your putting up the white flag huh? Damn if I knew all along it was that easy....
Can you name the last time a #1 Ranked guy fought a #10 ranked to defend his title in ANY weight class?
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I got a better question that doesn't have all the stipulations....
Can you name the last time a #1 Ranked guy fought a #10 ranked to defend his title?
I will post a article as to why Werdum is a great opponent for Fedor & is under ranked.
You know my opinion on the Fedor vs Werdum bout & that rankings don't mean shit unless its done by other fighters.
Fabricio Werdum, Not Alistair Overeem: The Right Opponent for Fedor Emelianenko
by JonathanSnowden on Jun 23, 2010 1:00 PM EDT in Events 269 comments
I've seen plenty of prattle online about Fedor Emelianenko "ducking" the mighty Alistair Overeem and taking an easier fight with jiu jitsu wizard Fabricio Werdum. Nothing could be further from the truth. The fact is, among heavyweights not in the UFC, it's hard to argue that anyone who is licensed to fight in California deserves a shot at the best more than Werdum-and certainly not Overeem, a man more media myth than top contender.
Since 2008, Overeem has a handful of wins in MMA, almost none of them over top 10 opponents, almost none of them meaningful in the grand scheme of things. He's beaten Mark Hunt long after Hunt stopped trying, James Thompson (post Kimbo and in the middle of losing 7 of 8), and the 39 year old shell of Kazayuki Fujita. None of this was particularly impressive. What is so great then about the Dutch behemoth? Hulking muscles. Incredible mass. Veins. MMA promoters and fans have had a hard on for muscular physiques since Royce made Ken tap the mat way back at UFC 1. Nothing has changed.
Werdum, on the other hand, doesn't look like he has just come out of a GNC with a bag the size of a Mini Cooper. He's just a solid professional fighter. In the last five years he's lost a handful of times, but only to the very best. Nogueira. An Arlovski who, while the world's biggest metrosexual, was also the second best heavyweight in the UFC. And finally, the top young prospect in the world, Junior Dos Santos. He impressed everyone with his tough fight against Antonio Silva at Strikeforce in Chicago last year and has wins over Gabriel Gonzaga and Brandon Vera-back when those two men mattered.
And then, there's the head to head battle. Even assuming all things are equal (and I'd argue Werdum has the more impressive resume as a heavyweight MMA fighter) Fabricio has the ultimate chit-a head to head win over Overeem a few years ago in Pride. Werdum made him tap to a kimura, the first and last time Overeem was ever submitted by a hold, choke, or lock in his ten year MMA career.
That's what makes Werdum a worthy test for Fedor (or anyone else for that matter). It's the submission pedigree that earned the Brazilian two ADCC titles and two Brazilian Jiu Jitsu championships. This is a very dangerous man. At 6-4 and a solid 240, he has the size to submit Fedor in the right circumstances. If the Russian is as bored and out of shape as he looks, if he's been enjoying married life at the expense of training, if he's looking too far forward into a blissful retirement, Werdum could pull off the ultimate upset. If he does, he will have earned the opportunity. In an ideal world we'd see Fedor against Lesnar, Carwin, and Dos Santos. We don't live in that world. Werdum is the best available fighter out there. He's also the guy with the best chance of beating the "Last Emperor." He deserves the shot.
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berzerkfury owning these tiny tits.
Fedor is #1. His last 3 fights were against the #2, #3 and #7-10 ranked guy in the world. No one else in mma comes close to that. Regardless, all rankings besides Fedor at #1 mean jack shit; before Brock ever fought couture, he had a 2-1 record and was ranked 7th in the world LOL.
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berzerkfury owning these tiny tits.
Fedor is #1. His last 3 fights were against the #2, #3 and #7-10 ranked guy in the world. No one else in mma comes close to that. Regardless, all rankings besides Fedor at #1 mean jack shit; before Brock ever fought couture, he had a 2-1 record and was ranked 7th in the world LOL.
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It's funny how quickly Coltrane disappeared when I asked him to answer such a simple question. Too easy.
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;D ;D
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Hickson that article has no credibility because it wasn't written by Dana White, Weight or MS.
You know it and I know it.
Werdum wouldn't last 2 minutes with Check Kongo's grandmother. I am confident in this statement because Kongo fights in the UFC.
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Hickson that article has no credibility because it wasn't written by Dana White, Weight or MS.
You know it and I know it.
Werdum wouldn't last 2 minutes with Check Kongo's grandmother. I am confident in this statement because Kongo fights in the UFC.
FUCK!!!! Owned again!!!! twice in one day!! I feel like creating another account.
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FUCK!!!! Owned again!!!! twice in one day!! I feel like creating another account.
that is what mindspin did to make it look like someone other than him has the same opinion.
now as for coltrane, i think he is just trolling or a fucking moron. one or the other.
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The Great "Mindspin" owned again!
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
teamfedor.com (http://teamfedor.com)
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that is what mindspin did to make it look like someone other than him has the same opinion.
now as for coltrane, i think he is just trolling or a fucking moron. one or the other.
It could never be the fact that there are several HIGHLY intelligent MMA fans on here could it?
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The Great "Mindspin" owned again!
How am I being owned ???
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berzerkfury owning these tiny tits.
Fedor is #1. His last 3 fights were against the #2, #3 and #7-10 ranked guy in the world. No one else in mma comes close to that. Regardless, all rankings besides Fedor at #1 mean jack shit; before Brock ever fought couture, he had a 2-1 record and was ranked 7th in the world LOL.
ya i agree... brock has 5 fights compared to fedors thirty something?? too funny brock is a marketing machine and will lose to carwin by KO first round
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First off, I'm not sure who started the argument that Brock is better than Fedor. I sure didn't. I think that he needs to get through 2-3 of the top heavyweights before that could be argued.
That said, Fedor is NOT the best Heavyweight today. He is fighting cans and avoiding the UFC roster of legit contenders. This month, Lesner will put his title on the line against a legitimate top three contender. Fedor, will again be fighting someone who is taylor made for him and who is ranked 10.
For the record, I hope both Fedor and Brock lose their fights. Brock is a complete douche-bag that needs to be KTFO. And Fedor is an overhyped fat piece of shit.
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I'm still waiting for one of the UFC ball lickers to name a UFC HW that has fought 3 top 10 ranked HWs in their last 3 fights. The fact that they continue to avoid that question proves who is really fighting the cans and who isn't. ;)
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I'm still waiting for one of the UFC ball lickers to name a UFC HW that has fought 3 top 10 ranked HWs in their last 3 fights. The fact that they continue to avoid that question proves who is really fighting the cans and who isn't. ;)
Carwins fight with Brock will be his 3rd fight against a top 10 HW. Gonzaga was a top 10 when they fought.
Now answer me this....
When was the last time a #1 ranked guy fought a #10 ranked guy for title defense?
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First off, I'm not sure who started the argument that Brock is better than Fedor. I sure didn't. I think that he needs to get through 2-3 of the top heavyweights before that could be argued.
That said, Fedor is NOT the best Heavyweight today. He is fighting cans and avoiding the UFC roster of legit contenders. This month, Lesner will put his title on the line against a legitimate top three contender. Fedor, will again be fighting someone who is taylor made for him and who is ranked 10.
For the record, I hope both Fedor and Brock lose their fights. Brock is a complete douche-bag that needs to be KTFO. And Fedor is an overhyped fat piece of shit.
Well said.
I agree, if Brock and Fedor lose, I will be a very happy MMA fan!
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Damn, after Fedor's fight against Werdum and then his fight against the #2 HW in the world in Overeem, that will have been 5 straight top 10 HWs he will have fought. Nice way to end the greatest career in MMA history. 8)
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Damn, after Fedor's fight against Werdum and then his fight against the #2 HW in the world in Overeem, that will have been 5 straight top 10 HWs he will have fought. Nice way to end the greatest career in MMA history. 8)
Skipped my question Chump?
Overeem is not ranked #2 either.
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I'm still waiting for one of the UFC ball lickers to name a UFC HW that has fought 3 top 10 ranked HWs in their last 3 fights. The fact that they continue to avoid that question proves who is really fighting the cans and who isn't. ;)
once again owning the ufc tiny tits.
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once again owning the ufc tiny tits.
Already answered it. CARWIN.
His next fight with Brock will be #3. Gonzaga was ranked when they fought. Then Mir and now Lesnar.
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Answer this chump...
When was the last time a #1 ranked guy fought a #10 guy to defend his title?
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Damn, after Fedor's fight against Werdum and then his fight against the #2 HW in the world in Overeem, that will have been 5 straight top 10 HWs he will have fought. Nice way to end the greatest career in MMA history. 8)
You must have not read the article I posted on another thread. After the top 5 UFC heavyweights fight each other, they will all have a more established record, which will result in Fedor losing his #1 ranked status. That will all happen within 6-12 months. What a glorious day that will be :)
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Already answered it. CARWIN.
His next fight with Brock will be #3. Gonzaga was ranked when they fought. Then Mir and now Lesnar.
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Answer this chump...
When was the last time a #1 ranked guy fought a #10 guy to defend his title?
I do not believe gonzaga was ranked when he fought Carwin. Gonzaga lost 2 in a row to Couture and WERDUM, then beat justin mccully and josh hendricks (who are they) before losing to Carwin.
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It's funny how quickly Coltrane disappeared when I asked him to answer such a simple question. Too easy.
ahem.
Mr. Coltrane was in Vegas this past weekend watching your boy Fedor get annihilated. (in the sportsbook).
Sorry to rain on your parade. NOW, any questions?