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Title: Penn & Teller: Exercise vs Genetics...
Post by: 65stew on June 22, 2010, 10:36:00 AM
http://www.blinkx.com/watch-video/penn-teller-bullshit-exercise-vs-genetics/nkQV7iroHDPYNTnC0MpHkg

This is Great! Exposes some of the scams.
Title: Re: Penn & Teller: Exercise vs Genetics...
Post by: Papper on June 22, 2010, 03:18:19 PM
good vid. you shouldn't train versus your genetics, rather develop the features you're good in.
Title: Re: Penn & Teller: Exercise vs Genetics...
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2010, 04:05:18 PM
I saw that entire video and couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Penn & Teller: Exercise vs Genetics...
Post by: big L dawg on June 22, 2010, 04:25:43 PM
there religion episode was spot on as well...
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Post by: Nails on June 22, 2010, 04:37:23 PM
Good watch... i was bullshitted on for years by the FLEX mag, MD mag, and every other bodybuilding MAG. ... UNTIL getbig.com made me see the light ... thanks RON
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Post by: TrueGrit on June 22, 2010, 04:46:45 PM
Which was the one that Chris' girl gave head to in the bathroom?
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Post by: 65stew on June 22, 2010, 05:59:04 PM
I couldn't believe the personal trainer/model guy could actually say with a straight face that the lady he was training would someday be on the cover of a fitness magazine! I guess flattery can make you a buck!
Title: Re: Penn & Teller: Exercise vs Genetics...
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2010, 07:14:43 PM
I couldn't believe the personal trainer/model guy could actually say with a straight face that the lady he was training would someday be on the cover of a fitness magazine! I guess flattery can make you a buck!

Thats why I have a hard time training the general public....they hate the truth and I couldn't baffle them with bullshit and keep a straight face!
Title: Re: Penn & Teller: Exercise vs Genetics...
Post by: 65stew on June 22, 2010, 07:35:34 PM
Thats why I have a hard time training the general public....they hate the truth and I couldn't baffle them with bullshit and keep a straight face!

Good point, I see the trainers in the gym all the time with these people that have no self discipline, body never changes even after months of working with a personal trainer but they now have someone that tells them everytime they come in how good they're looking and much progress they've made and it keeps them coming back!
Title: Re: Penn & Teller: Exercise vs Genetics...
Post by: Lundgren on June 22, 2010, 07:41:33 PM
Meh I guess the vids nice for the ignorant, to me its just common sense. However the ecto meso morph shit is well "bullshit". There's people that got genes for muscle, for strength, and a good fugure, there are different types of muscle as well as endurance metablisms genes as well.  they don't group together. Fat men are mostly lazy, so basically there are two groups of people, ones that look strong and look skinny. This usually has more to do with hip to waste ratios and bone structure.
Title: Re: Penn & Teller: Exercise vs Genetics...
Post by: Tapeworm on June 23, 2010, 04:09:47 AM
Which was the one that Chris' girl gave head to in the bathroom?

Haha.  "The big one."  That chick was stacked.
Title: Re: Penn & Teller: Exercise vs Genetics...
Post by: spinnis on June 23, 2010, 04:43:57 AM
Almost everything is true, but I feel like EVERYONE can look good.
The genetics determine how "fast" you will reach your goals. EVERYONE can look good (compared to how you looked). Even someone with bad predetermined genetics, Take Evan centapani for example. Fatty kid etc...

This will cause fatties to blame genetics for not even TRYING :)

I feel as they failed to mention that, besides that Great hehe
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Post by: spinnis on June 23, 2010, 04:55:52 AM
Some people have fucked up skeleton and muscle shape/attachments.

you can still be Fit, which will make you look a million times better then if you were FAT.


On a side note, my hats of to all the ppeople that made a fourtune of the BS equipment shit.

If people are so fuckign stupid that they let themself be taken advantage of like that, they deserve it and more power to you.
All info you would ever need if just a few clicks away, if you're too lazy for that then fuck off
Title: Re: Penn & Teller: Exercise vs Genetics...
Post by: _bruce_ on June 23, 2010, 06:16:55 AM
Almost everything is true, but I feel like EVERYONE can look good.
The genetics determine how "fast" you will reach your goals. EVERYONE can look good (compared to how you looked). Even someone with bad predetermined genetics, Take Evan centapani for example. Fatty kid etc...

This will cause fatties to blame genetics for not even TRYING :)

I feel as they failed to mention that, besides that Great hehe

 +1
Title: Re: Penn & Teller: Exercise vs Genetics...
Post by: 65stew on June 23, 2010, 06:20:18 AM
Almost everything is true, but I feel like EVERYONE can look good.
The genetics determine how "fast" you will reach your goals. EVERYONE can look good (compared to how you looked). Even someone with bad predetermined genetics, Take Evan centapani for example. Fatty kid etc...

This will cause fatties to blame genetics for not even TRYING :)

I feel as they failed to mention that, besides that Great hehe
I agree, everyone can definately look better with consistant exercise and good diet. Someone like Evan I'm sure has worked very hard but he's also been on the "supplements." I think that and plastic Surgery are about the only ways to make drastic changes if your genetics are not so great to begin with.
Title: Re: Penn & Teller: Exercise vs Genetics...
Post by: Lundgren on June 23, 2010, 07:37:56 AM
I agree, everyone can definately look better with consistant exercise and good diet. Someone like Evan I'm sure has worked very hard but he's also been on the "supplements." I think that and plastic Surgery are about the only ways to make drastic changes if your genetics are not so great to begin with.
Surgery can't fix skeletal structure. The big scam is that people think they look better by going to the gym. Sure you look fit but there's no drastic change. I have friends that work  out constantly and others that never lift a weight its not a deal breaker for pussy. If you work out you gotta do it out of enojyment looking better is a small bonus. Of course it does help your ego which does get you laid, but it's not your look as how you think you look.
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Post by: drkaje on June 23, 2010, 07:44:07 AM
Watched until the commercials got too annoying.

Looks like they were just making excuses for lazy bastards not committed to being healthy. Of course everyone doesn't have the genetics to look like a fitness model, get a pro card, play for the Yankees, etc... but that's not excuse for not putting the best motherloving you possible out there on a daily basis.

If fatties put the time into their bodies they do making excuses this epidemic would go away.

Even a skinny person can still get fit if committed.
Title: Re: Penn & Teller: Exercise vs Genetics...
Post by: Lundgren on June 23, 2010, 07:52:38 AM
One of my best friends works out constantly and look like a stocky dwarf, the other looks better than most of the form and never touched a weight. 6 pack, taper v etc. For both of them working out will never get them laid ever it's a waste of time. There are loads of things they could with their time that's a better payoff. For me I have wide hips and narrow shoulder working out won't change that. Just the same I work out because I enjoy. However I work my arms about twice a week, anymore would be a waste as I'd get mild improvement and a waste of time. 
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Post by: Tom on June 24, 2010, 06:28:18 AM
are you kidding me people? were to listen to penn & teller for life advice! lol! gimme a break! two out of shape, no talent losers who somehow made a successful living in entertainment and i used the word entertainment very loosely are telling people that what's the point of exercise, eating right you'll never look like the people on covers of bb/fitness magazines and stop buying supplements and so on and so on.

of course, genetics play a large part, but everyone and i mean EVERYONE can look and feel better with working out and eating right, including taking supplements, just don't go overboard with them! as far as fitness models, yes, if your butt ugly or plain, unless you get plastic surgery you won't have a fitness model face. okay, so what? (by the way, the fitness model/personal trainer in this video is clark bartram and when he told that girl that she was going to be on the cover of a magazine someday i don't think he was bullshitting her and us, because she actually has a cute face even if she was then a bit overweight, facially i could see her on the covers of a fitness magazine once she got in shape. anyway....

who the hell are penn and teller anyway? what's their point? teller? are you kidding me? i wish i could make a great living, not doing anything at all and not even talking?! and penn, a loudmouth fat out of shape profanity spewing douchebag! what was with the constant use of the "f"word and making fun of bartram i.e. bar-tram's name? surpised bartram didn't sue them for character defamation and slander?! if anything their ranting made THEM look worse and even more pathetic!

then making fun of everyone and anyone who wants to be in shape, make themselves the best they can be, making fun of anyone who would even want to be a fitness model? hey, if that is what people aspire too, more power to them! don't think we should be making fun of what anyone wants to do for a living and using what they were given whether body, face, mind, education, what have you!
Title: Re: Penn & Teller: Exercise vs Genetics...
Post by: Aerian on June 24, 2010, 04:41:48 PM
are you kidding me people? were to listen to penn & teller for life advice! lol! gimme a break! two out of shape, no talent losers who somehow made a successful living in entertainment and i used the word entertainment very loosely are telling people that what's the point of exercise, eating right you'll never look like the people on covers of bb/fitness magazines and stop buying supplements and so on and so on.

of course, genetics play a large part, but everyone and i mean EVERYONE can look and feel better with working out and eating right, including taking supplements, just don't go overboard with them! as far as fitness models, yes, if your butt ugly or plain, unless you get plastic surgery you won't have a fitness model face. okay, so what? (by the way, the fitness model/personal trainer in this video is clark bartram and when he told that girl that she was going to be on the cover of a magazine someday i don't think he was bullshitting her and us, because she actually has a cute face even if she was then a bit overweight, facially i could see her on the covers of a fitness magazine once she got in shape. anyway....

who the hell are penn and teller anyway? what's their point? teller? are you kidding me? i wish i could make a great living, not doing anything at all and not even talking?! and penn, a loudmouth fat out of shape profanity spewing douchebag! what was with the constant use of the "f"word and making fun of bartram i.e. bar-tram's name? surpised bartram didn't sue them for character defamation and slander?! if anything their ranting made THEM look worse and even more pathetic!

then making fun of everyone and anyone who wants to be in shape, make themselves the best they can be, making fun of anyone who would even want to be a fitness model? hey, if that is what people aspire too, more power to them! don't think we should be making fun of what anyone wants to do for a living and using what they were given whether body, face, mind, education, what have you!

Good post  QFT

They never once brought up the fact that even though not everyone can be a fitness model, everyone...  EVERYONE... can still be active and strive to be in the best shape their genetics/body type can be.
Title: Re: Penn & Teller: Exercise vs Genetics...
Post by: Captain Equipoise on June 24, 2010, 05:02:19 PM
Genetics determine the 'rough' layout of your physique, hard work and effort go a long way in shaping that physique..
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Post by: Lundgren on June 24, 2010, 05:44:21 PM
Good post  QFT

They never once brought up the fact that even though not everyone can be a fitness model, everyone...  EVERYONE... can still be active and strive to be in the best shape their genetics/body type can be.
I don't think there against physical activity. But for most people lifting weights to looks good is a waste. The  amount of time would be much better spent playing team sports.
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Post by: Aerian on June 24, 2010, 05:57:24 PM
I don't think there against physical activity. But for most people lifting weights to looks good is a waste. The  amount of time would be much better spent playing team sports.

They didnt seem to agree with a single thing in the video, about the fitness industry, supplements, working out, really anything. 

They might as well have said, everyone don't do a damn thing ever, cause nothing will ever happen to your physique.  You are stuck.

Which is anything but the truth.

I find their videos entertaining but at times very one sided.
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Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 24, 2010, 06:08:01 PM
I dont understand

Everyone can build muscle, get lean and look good.......Having the model look is easy if you are disicplined enough

Someone please correct me if im wrong here?  ???
Title: Re: Penn & Teller: Exercise vs Genetics...
Post by: clued-up on June 24, 2010, 06:15:26 PM
I dont understand

Everyone can build muscle, get lean and look good.......Having the model look is easy if you are disicplined enough


Someone please correct me if im wrong here?  ???

You are incorrect.. genetics are everything.

Title: Re: Penn & Teller: Exercise vs Genetics...
Post by: body88 on June 24, 2010, 09:04:21 PM
Oh brother. Penn and fucking telling giving advice on exercise?

This video is just one long winded EXCUSE for fat pieces of shit like those two, to dodge exercising and eating right.

Not everyone can be a fitness model, or look like the models that you see in the mags, but anyone can get lean and build a little muscle with proper diet and dedication to exercise.

Jack Lalane "hit the gentic jackpot"? LMAO, what a shitty video.

I know I'm being redundant, here...but, fuck it, this video is among the dumber things that I've seen recently.
Title: Re: Penn & Teller: Exercise vs Genetics...
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 24, 2010, 10:12:54 PM
I couldn't believe the personal trainer/model guy could actually say with a straight face that the lady he was training would someday be on the cover of a fitness magazine! I guess flattery can make you a buck!

Why couldnt she though?
Title: Re: Penn & Teller: Exercise vs Genetics...
Post by: Primemuscle on June 24, 2010, 10:42:36 PM
Our genetics may determine both our basic strengths and our weaknesses. One can always improve on their genetics if they believe this and they are willing to work hard enough to achieve realistic goals. Obviously, an adult who is 5'5" isn't ever going to be 6'2". What they can be is a really fit 5'5"  person regardless of whether they are a mesomorph, an endomorph, an ectomorph or somewhere on a scale in between these body types. Up to a point, steroids can help you temporarily achieve things you wouldn't be able to achieve on naturally. However, everything we do has a price.
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Post by: clued-up on June 24, 2010, 11:07:17 PM
One can always improve on their genetics if they believe this and they are willing to work hard enough

You’re a Matt C gimmick.. so its understandable why a runt like yourself would like for that to be the case, but its not.

Genetics are fixed. You can not alter them; you can not escape them.

An oddly shaped runt will remain an oddly shaped runt.. no matter what they do in the gym.
Title: Re: Penn & Teller: Exercise vs Genetics...
Post by: 65stew on June 25, 2010, 05:29:42 PM
Why couldnt she though?
I guess she could if she had her own magazine like Oprah.
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Post by: brooklynbruiser on June 25, 2010, 06:26:12 PM
I'm watching now. I'm not completely sold. The entire idea of working out is about FIGHTING the body's predisposition. You fight more or less, but you fight.  ANYONE can look decent without drugs if they push hard enough and diet properly. Anything else is bullshit.

HAHAHA! I just realized that guy Clark was the same guy that played Batman in 'Dead End'.

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Post by: epic_alien on June 25, 2010, 07:31:34 PM
sooo, your saying plazmosis doesnt work?
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Post by: brooklynbruiser on June 25, 2010, 08:11:58 PM
Fuck yeh, it does!