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PHOENIX -- Mexico on Tuesday asked a federal court in Arizona to declare the state's new immigration law unconstitutional, arguing that the country's own interests and its citizens' rights are at stake.
Lawyers for Mexico on Tuesday submitted a legal brief in support of one of five lawsuits challenging the law. The law will take effect July 29 unless implementation is blocked by a court.
The law generally requires police investigating another incident or crime to ask people about their immigration status if there's a "reasonable suspicion" they're in the country illegally. It also makes being in Arizona illegally a misdemeanor, and it prohibits seeking day-labor work along the state's streets.
Citing "grave concerns," Mexico said its interest in having predictable, consistent relations with the United States shouldn't be frustrated by one U.S. state.
Mexico also said it has a legitimate interest in defending its citizens' rights and that the law would lead to racial profiling, hinder trade and tourism, and strain the countries' work on combating drug trafficking and related violence.
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They are fomenting CW2
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WTF ????
I thought the UK was bad - but fuck me, this takes the biscuit !
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Can people really still be defending this shit? It boggels the mind.
My blood temperture just went up a few degrees.
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Can people really still be defending this shit? It boggels the mind.
My blood temperture just went up a few degrees.
Now we know obama probably gave calderone his blessing for this during that bash we through for him while he trashed us.
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PHOENIX -- Mexico on Tuesday asked a federal court in Arizona to declare the state's new immigration law unconstitutional, arguing that the country's own interests and its citizens' rights are at stake.
Lawyers for Mexico on Tuesday submitted a legal brief in support of one of five lawsuits challenging the law. The law will take effect July 29 unless implementation is blocked by a court.
The law generally requires police investigating another incident or crime to ask people about their immigration status if there's a "reasonable suspicion" they're in the country illegally. It also makes being in Arizona illegally a misdemeanor, and it prohibits seeking day-labor work along the state's streets.
Citing "grave concerns," Mexico said its interest in having predictable, consistent relations with the United States shouldn't be frustrated by one U.S. state.
Mexico also said it has a legitimate interest in defending its citizens' rights and that the law would lead to racial profiling, hinder trade and tourism, and strain the countries' work on combating drug trafficking and related violence.
Why don't those assholes worry about their own failed state?
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Why don't do those assholes worry about their own failed state?
No shit. This just goes to show how fucked up things are.
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WTF? I can't believe an American court actually entertains this nonsense.
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WTF? I can't believe an American court actually entertains this nonsense.
It's not really surprising given that we have people in our own government who sit there and applaud a foreigner bashing American citizens in front of the White House. What a fucking joke. ::)
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"Why don't do those assholes worry about their own failed state? "
x 2 LOL!
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It's not really surprising given that we have people in our own government who sit there and applaud a foreigner bashing American citizens in front of the White House. What a fucking joke. ::)
Ain't that the truth. Maybe everybody who has ever had their identity stolen by an illegal immigrant should sue Mexico.
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"Why don't do those assholes worry about their own failed state? "
x 2 LOL!
That post hit the nail in the head. Absolutely true.
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Minus the grammatical errors from typing it while half-asleep. :P
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How does the state of Mexico even have standing to file this lawsuit in the first place? Since when can a foreign country assert the rights of citizens that have illegally entered another country and then broken the law in that country? This is sheer insanity.
"We are suing a state in another country where millions of our citizens have snuck into that country illegally using that state as a way in. That state is trying to prevent our citizens from breaking the law and entering their country illegally. Furthermore, this state is attempting to deport those who commit a criminal offense in their state once it is discovered that they are in fact inside the country illegally. As the country of origin for the millions of people who are in America illegaly, we find the enforcement of United States Immigration laws and criminal laws offensive. Therefore, the AZ immigration law will harm the US+Mexican relationship."
^Is that what these morons plan to argue in court? Not only is this argument utter nonsense, but how can a country sue a state for expelling criminals that have entered the state and country illegally? I mean this is stupidity at it's highest magnitude.
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Its Cloward & Piven tactics by Obama and Calderone to collapse the system.
Look it up. Obama and Calderone planned this during his trip and gaudy bash last month.
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Its Cloward & Piven tactics by Obama and Calderone to collapse the system.
Look it up. Obama and Calderone planned this during his trip and gaudy bash last month.
Don't be so hard on the Nobel Peace Prize winner. (barf)
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Libs would rather citizens start shooting them than have the new law.
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Libs would rather citizens start shooting them than have the new law.
Who the libs? Sign me up. If they want to volunteer for a firing squad I'm all game for that.
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Who the libs? Sign me up. If they want to volunteer for a firing squad I'm all game for that.
Those people are just political pawns. If anyone actually gave a shit about them something would have been done to help Mexico from becoming so bad in the first place. I do find it amusing how anyone saying we can't afford them automatically has no compassion.
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Those people are just political pawns. If anyone actually gave a shit about them something would have been done to help Mexico from becoming so bad in the first place. I do find it amusing how anyone saying we can't afford them automatically has no compassion.
My compasssion is for legal american citizens, not these nomads.
If Mexico is so bad, let them change their system and reform their country since so many of them obviously love their precisious Mexico so much as evidence by the flags, retaining the language,e tc.
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Those people are just political pawns. If anyone actually gave a shit about them something would have been done to help Mexico from becoming so bad in the first place. I do find it amusing how anyone saying we can't afford them automatically has no compassion.
It's the faux-bleeding hearts. You can see this in almost every conflict or human rights disaster. People pick and choose what to throw their weight behind because they're opportunists. The ones who are objectively helping others are few and far between.
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Holy fucking shit! How can they even legally sue a state in our country? This shit is why Americans are so upset...cue kcballer to call us all racists Americans that are overreacting.
Psycho talk: I need to go blast some rounds off at the range so I can cool down from reading this shit.
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It's the faux-bleeding hearts. You can see this in almost every conflict or human rights disaster. People pick and choose what to throw their weight behind because they're opportunists. The ones who are objectively helping others are few and far between.
Can you imagine how they'd vote/act if living in a border state or if illegals were flooding Canada?
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Mexico doesn't want Mexicans back?
The US Federal government files lawsuit against Arizona, the ACLU files lawsuit against Arizona, Mexico files lawsuit against Arizona...who's paying for the processing of these lawsuits, for the lawyer fees, court fees, etc.?
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Mexico doesn't want Mexicans back?
The US Federal government files lawsuit against Arizona, the ACLU files lawsuit against Arizona, Mexico files lawsuit against Arizona...who's paying for the processing of these lawsuits, for the lawyer fees, court fees, etc.?
The schmuck taxpayer.
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Mexico doesn't want Mexicans back?
The US Federal government files lawsuit against Arizona, the ACLU files lawsuit against Arizona, Mexico files lawsuit against Arizona...who's paying for the processing of these lawsuits, for the lawyer fees, court fees, etc.?
The Tooth Fairy. :)
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To quote my good friend, things like this "make a brotha want to cuss." >:( This is the kind of culture the Obama administration and DC Democrats have created. This is the logical extension of allowing the president of Mexico to criticize the policy of one of our states and giving him a standing ovation after he does so. Of going on national TV at taxpayer expense and telling illegal immigrants they have a right to be "paid fairly" and the federal government will help them. Of willfully refusing to secure the borders.
I'm just flat out disgusted. :-\
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To quote my good friend, things like this "make a brotha want to cuss." >:( This is the kind of culture the Obama administration and DC Democrats have created. This is the logical extension of allowing the president of Mexico to criticize the policy of one of our states and giving him a standing ovation after he does so. Of going on national TV at taxpayer expense and telling illegal immigrants they have a right to be "paid fairly" and the federal government will help them. Of willfully refusing to secure the borders.
I'm just flat out disgusted. :-\
How many years did preceding presidents have to address illegal immigration?
None of them were willing to do a damn thing because it would cost too many votes.
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Illegal Immigration was GWB's biggest failure.
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Oh beach how short your memory is.
As for this topic Mexico is doing what it's people want, pushing for an easy entry into America. The end game for them is to one day have Mexico absorbed by the States so they can come and go as they please.
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Oh beach how short your memory is.
As for this topic Mexico is doing what it's people want, pushing for an easy entry into America. The end game for them is to one day have Mexico absorbed by the States so they can come and go as they please.
Jorge Booosh was a disaster on this issue.
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Illegal Immigration was GWB's biggest failure.
+ Clinton
+ Bush 1
+ Reagan
+ Carter
etc etc
Although none of them spent $800 mil on an electronic fence that never worked.
Except Bush.
So you may be right...
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Fuck what Mexico thinks... They cant even keep their border towns in check.
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How many years did preceding presidents have to address illegal immigration?
None of them were willing to do a damn thing because it would cost too many votes.
Past failures really don't have anything to do with current failures. Wasn't this president supposed to be about "change"?
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The problem is far more reaching than just 'building a fence'. In order to stop people from risking their lives (which they will continue to do) you need to make sure there is an incentive to stay away. I.E. no jobs because employers will get ruined. You also need to work with Mexico to increase their standard of living. Many here may view this as a bad idea but until you have people in Mexico living at reasonable standard you will continue to have millions attempting to cross the border. I'm not saying we give Mexico money but encouraging American firms to invest in Mexico, boosting co-operation and aid will do a lot more in combating illegal immigration than building a formidable fence. Plus it'll cost less in the long run and we don't have the situation no one wants where a potential illegal is gunned down on TV.
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Fuck what Mexico thinks... They cant even keep their border towns in check.
^^^^ This.
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Im glad beach finally said what none of the dickless and mindless Obama suporters have the courage to admit to themselves.
Since when does "the last guy did a bad job" become an excuse for the current President to railroad the American people into suicidal policies while continuing to do a bad job?
Who gives a FUCK what George Bush and Bill Clinton did or didnt do?!?!
He's the president NOW.
He was elected to correct past failures and make the country better, not to pass the buck and blame the guy before him like a toothless assembly line worker who mistakenly puts razor blades in childrens toys.
You idiots do realize that he is in the post powerful position on earth, right? How the fuck can you excuse his pathetically poor performance thus far by comparing him to the last president, who also had a bad record on practically every major issue also? Why elect a president at all?
I'm sorry that being the leader of the free world is a "difficult" job. I guess someone lied to Barry and told him that it was only going to be basketball games, re reuns of Sanford and Son and cocktail parties with heads of state.
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Past failures really don't have anything to do with current failures. Wasn't this president supposed to be about "change"?
I didn't follow the campaign. Did he make some lies promises about increasing Mexican border safety?
They've been choosing to remain in power over doing the right thing for years. The Cuban embargo is a perfect example of this nonsense. What's to stop Mexicans from washing up on shore in Miami and claiming to be Cuban? Cuban descendants have gained enough power to keep the embargo in place and insure their relatives immediately become a protected class once on shore. They control three states and no one can get re-elected/elected without their votes.
Arizona and California will do the same thing unless we put an end to career politicians and have real term limits.
We have to fix the system first. This isn't simply a presidential problem. No matter what party a president came from his/her cronies would either need hispanic votes back in their districts or be empowering a more liberal rival to get elected.
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President Bush on Tuesday wrapped up a two-day visit to the Southwest to promote his policy for stemming the tide of illegal immigration, vowing that his administration will "enforce our border."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/29/AR2005112901392.html
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The issue is who is going to step up and be a leader, not a hispanderer.
Obama in not a leader, he is an agitator. He agitates all sides of an issue to hopefully get what he wants and does so on every issue.
Whether its lllegals, taxes, WOY< whatever, he is a disgraceful mistake that should never have been.
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Romney supported the Bush-McCain immigration proposal in 2005, and even supported a "path to citizenship" as recently as 2006
Huck? Open Borders, pro-Amnesty position
Palin? She supports a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants
Mccain called Americans against Amnesty RACISTS. And yall voted for him? LOL!
That being said, it's not all clouds and rain. Check out the positions of this Repub 2012 hopeful:
•Voted NO on continuing federal funds for declared "sanctuary cities". (Mar 2008)
•Voted NO on comprehensive immigration reform. (Jun 2007)
•Voted YES on declaring English as the official language of the US government. (Jun 2007)
•Voted NO on eliminating the "Y" nonimmigrant guestworker program. (May 2007)
•Voted YES on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006)
•Voted NO on establishing a Guest Worker program. (May 2006)
•Voted NO on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security. (May 2006)
•Voted NO on giving Guest Workers a path to citizenship. (May 2006)
•Voted YES on more immigrant visas for skilled workers. (Sep 1998)
•Rated 100% by USBC, indicating a sealed-border stance. (Dec 2006)
•Government services in English only. (Mar 2008)
John Thune 2012
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Thune is still my choice for 2012.
Nationwide CCW.
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Im glad beach finally said what none of the dickless and mindless Obama suporters have the courage to admit to themselves.
Since when does "the last guy did a bad job" become an excuse for the current President to railroad the American people into suicidal policies while continuing to do a bad job?
Who gives a FUCK what George Bush and Bill Clinton did or didnt do?!?!
He's the president NOW.
He was elected to correct past failures and make the country better, not to pass the buck and blame the guy before him like a toothless assembly line worker who mistakenly puts razor blades in childrens toys.
You idiots do realize that he is in the post powerful position on earth, right? How the fuck can you excuse his pathetically poor performance thus far by comparing him to the last president, who also had a bad record on practically every major issue also? Why elect a president at all?
I'm sorry that being the leader of the free world is a "difficult" job. I guess someone lied to Barry and told him that it was only going to be basketball games, re reuns of Sanford and Son and cocktail parties with heads of state.
Word.
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I didn't follow the campaign. Did he make some lies promises about increasing Mexican border safety?
They've been choosing to remain in power over doing the right thing for years. The Cuban embargo is a perfect example of this nonsense. What's to stop Mexicans from washing up on shore in Miami and claiming to be Cuban? Cuban descendants have gained enough power to keep the embargo in place and insure their relatives immediately become a protected class once on shore. They control three states and no one can get re-elected/elected without their votes.
Arizona and California will do the same thing unless we put an end to career politicians and have real term limits.
We have to fix the system first. This isn't simply a presidential problem. No matter what party a president came from his/her cronies would either need hispanic votes back in their districts or be empowering a more liberal rival to get elected.
I don't know if he made a specific promise (read "lie") about securing the border, but he did ground his campaign on changing business as usual in D.C. He has failed miserably in that regard. In fact, because he has been the Appeaser in Chief, he has emboldened foreign leaders to flip us the bird on our own soil.
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author=George Whorewell link=topic=340183.msg4780260#msg4780260 date=1277322454
Since when does "the last guy did a bad job" become an excuse for the current President to railroad the American people into suicidal policies while continuing to do a bad job?
Who gives a FUCK what George Bush and Bill Clinton did or didnt do?!?!
He's the president NOW.
He was elected to correct past failures and make the country better, not to pass the buck and blame the guy before him like a toothless assembly line worker who mistakenly puts razor blades in childrens toys.
You idiots do realize that he is in the post powerful position on earth, right? How the fuck can you excuse his pathetically poor performance thus far by comparing him to the last president, who also had a bad record on practically every major issue also? Why elect a president at all?
This shit right here.
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Im glad beach finally said what none of the dickless and mindless Obama suporters have the courage to admit to themselves.
Since when does "the last guy did a bad job" become an excuse for the current President to railroad the American people into suicidal policies while continuing to do a bad job?
Who gives a FUCK what George Bush and Bill Clinton did or didnt do?!?!
He's the president NOW.
He was elected to correct past failures and make the country better, not to pass the buck and blame the guy before him like a toothless assembly line worker who mistakenly puts razor blades in childrens toys.
You idiots do realize that he is in the post powerful position on earth, right? How the fuck can you excuse his pathetically poor performance thus far by comparing him to the last president, who also had a bad record on practically every major issue also? Why elect a president at all?
I'm sorry that being the leader of the free world is a "difficult" job. I guess someone lied to Barry and told him that it was only going to be basketball games, re reuns of Sanford and Son and cocktail parties with heads of state.
Awesome post. It's amazing how many people think that because the previous guy in office was a jerk-off it automatically gives the next guy the right to be just as bad. Never mind that by doing that they're ensuring that it will be a never ending cycle of failure after failure. Great fucking logic.
There are quite a few Getbiggers who espouse that belief.
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Im glad beach finally said what none of the dickless and mindless Obama suporters have the courage to admit to themselves.
Since when does "the last guy did a bad job" become an excuse for the current President to railroad the American people into suicidal policies while continuing to do a bad job?
Who gives a FUCK what George Bush and Bill Clinton did or didnt do?!?!
He's the president NOW.
He was elected to correct past failures and make the country better, not to pass the buck and blame the guy before him like a toothless assembly line worker who mistakenly puts razor blades in childrens toys.
You idiots do realize that he is in the post powerful position on earth, right? How the fuck can you excuse his pathetically poor performance thus far by comparing him to the last president, who also had a bad record on practically every major issue also? Why elect a president at all?
I'm sorry that being the leader of the free world is a "difficult" job. I guess someone lied to Barry and told him that it was only going to be basketball games, re reuns of Sanford and Son and cocktail parties with heads of state.
GW bringing the pain.
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Im glad beach finally said what none of the dickless and mindless Obama suporters have the courage to admit to themselves.
Since when does "the last guy did a bad job" become an excuse for the current President to railroad the American people into suicidal policies while continuing to do a bad job?
Who gives a FUCK what George Bush and Bill Clinton did or didnt do?!?!
He's the president NOW.
He was elected to correct past failures and make the country better, not to pass the buck and blame the guy before him like a toothless assembly line worker who mistakenly puts razor blades in childrens toys.
You idiots do realize that he is in the post powerful position on earth, right? How the fuck can you excuse his pathetically poor performance thus far by comparing him to the last president, who also had a bad record on practically every major issue also? Why elect a president at all?
I'm sorry that being the leader of the free world is a "difficult" job. I guess someone lied to Barry and told him that it was only going to be basketball games, re reuns of Sanford and Son and cocktail parties with heads of state.
That's like arguing changing captains on the Titanic (after hitting the iceberg) would have saved everyone.
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I've read about this. The only thought I have is to get all must together asnd in order as civil unrest will ensue.
Obama is a communist mugabe pofs. There is no doubt in my mind he is doing everything possible as fast as possible to collapse the system.