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CIA director: US has not had good intelligence on Osama bin Laden in years
The United States has not had good intelligence on the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden, the al-Qaeda leader, in years, Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, admitted on Sunday.
Published: 8:42PM BST 27 Jun 2010
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01667/Leon_Panetta_1667608c.jpg)
Leon Panetta, the CIA director
He also gave a sobering account of the war in Afghanistan, saying the Taliban seemed to be strengthening with a stepped-up campaign of violence, even as US-led forces undermine the Islamist movement with attacks on its leadership.
Of greatest concern, he said, was al-Qaeda's reliance on operatives without previous records or those living in the US.
"We are engaged in the most aggressive operations in the history of the CIA in that part of the world, and the result is that we are disrupting their leadership," Mr Panetta told ABC television's "This Week".
The rare assessment from the US spy chief comes as President Barack Obama builds up US forces in Afghanistan to prop up the government and prevent al-Qaeda from returning. Mr Panetta said only 50 to 100 militants were believed to be operating inside Afghanistan.
Mr Panetta said the al-Qaeda leadership was at its weakest point since the Sept 11, 2001 attacks, but admitted that he had not had reliable intelligence on the location of the group's leader since "the early 2000s".
"Since then, it's been very difficult to get any intelligence on his exact location," he said. "He is, as is obvious, in very deep hiding ... He's in an area of the tribal areas of Pakistan."
Denying the world's most wanted man safe haven on the lawless Afghanistan-Pakistan border has been an aim of Western policy since the Sept 11 attacks, when the Taliban in effect spurned a US demand to hand over the al-Qaeda chief.
Taliban militants, Mr Panetta said, "with regards to some of the directed violence, they seem to be stronger. But the fact is, we are undermining their leadership and that I think is moving in the right direction."
Violence in Afghanistan is at its worst in the nine-year war, with the Taliban stepping up their campaign of suicide bombings and assassinations, particularly in their Kandahar heartland.
Some 80 foreign troops have been killed so far in June, making it the deadliest month for international forces since the war began in late 2001. More than 300 troops have been killed this year compared with about 520 for all of 2009.
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Osama's not even on the FBI's most wanted list. Why? Because he's dead.
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Osama's not even on the FBI's most wanted list. Why? Because he's dead.
So GWB killed OBL?
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So GWB killed OBL?
Who said that ?
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Osama's not even on the FBI's most wanted list. Why? Because he's dead.
He's the first name on the list of Most Wanted Terrorists, bright spot. ::)
But of course, everyone out there thinks they know more than the CIA. LOL. The powers of Google!
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They released sketches of what they suspect Osama looks like today with short hair and beard. The only distinguishing feature was his lips. Personally it would not surprise me to learn he had fled the area back to Saudi to hide with supporters there and get additional plastic surgery.
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They released sketches of what they suspect Osama looks like today with short hair and beard.
A Spanish lawmaker on Tuesday angrily rejected the United States' apology for the FBI's using a photo of him to create a poster showing what Osama bin Laden might look like today.
Gaspar Llamazares, of Spain's communist-run United Left party, demanded the U.S. investigate the incident and take appropriate action.
"Apologies are not enough," he told a news conference at Parliament after the U.S. ambassador apologized via Spain's interior minister on Monday.
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He's the first name on the list of Most Wanted Terrorists, bright spot. ::)
He isn't wanted for 9/11. A lot of people wonder why.
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Didnt Samson post a thread a few weeks ago saying Obama was actually Osama? I think I'll bump that gem.
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He isn't wanted for 9/11. A lot of people wonder why.
Maybe because KSM confesssed guilt for it?
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Maybe because KSM confesssed guilt for it?
He was never on the list.
And are you saying OBL's videotaped confession was not authentic? ;)
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He was never on the list.
And are you saying OBL's videotaped confession was not authentic? ;)
OBL was not the technical mastermind, KSM was, unless of course you believe that Cheney was. ::) ::)
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He was never on the list.
And are you saying OBL's videotaped confession was not authentic? ;)
No. Iraq was responsible for it. Remember the old "find me a link to Iraq" demand.
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OBL was not the technical mastermind, KSM was, unless of course you believe that Cheney was. ::) ::)
So are you saying Bin Laden had nothing to do with 911?
He confessed it on a video found in jalalabad by us spec forces 1 day after the world demanded proof. Granted, his face looked a little weird, and language experts argued the voice, and it sure did benefit us politically when we needed it most...
But aside from that - are you saying he's not wanted for it - even though he confesses - because of KSM's waterboarded confession?
Hell, they didn't catch KSM for 18 months after the Bin laden confession tape went public. OBL never went on the Wanted list for those 18 months. Why>? ;)
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Didnt Samson post a thread a few weeks ago saying Obama was actually Osama? I think I'll bump that gem.
You are some lawyer 3... I never said Obama was Osama... I did say it woud be something if it were so
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Maybe because KSM confesssed guilt for it?
Holograms, dude. Holograms. ::)
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A Spanish lawmaker on Tuesday angrily rejected the United States' apology for the FBI's using a photo of him to create a poster showing what Osama bin Laden might look like today.
Gaspar Llamazares, of Spain's communist-run United Left party, demanded the U.S. investigate the incident and take appropriate action.
"Apologies are not enough," he told a news conference at Parliament after the U.S. ambassador apologized via Spain's interior minister on Monday.
LOL!! Dude scared to leave his home now for fear of being stalking by some Bible carrying Christian with a sword.
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I'm sure KSM had something to do with it logistically.
But you have bin laden CONFESSION ON VIDEO about how he never expected them to collapse, and other details. Our govt confirmed the tape is real. He admitted FOREKNOWLEDGE - and he never went on the Most Wanted list for 911?
33, why the heck not? Your answer "cause KSM confessed" - that came 2 years after 911.
Can you see why not adding him to the list - when he is listed for other crimes - made people scratch their heads? Add in the plane ride for his family in his name 2 days after 911 when everyone else was grounded. It certainly fuels conspiracy theorists. Maybe it was Bush just granting favors to his business partners the bin ladens - but you're telling me it's okay for bush to wiretap americans for calling their auntie in France, but the bin laden family doesn't even get questioned?
33, you got quiet on this thread man.
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I'm sure KSM had something to do with it logistically.
But you have bin laden CONFESSION ON VIDEO about how he never expected them to collapse, and other details. Our govt confirmed the tape is real. He admitted FOREKNOWLEDGE - and he never went on the Most Wanted list for 911?
33, why the heck not? Your answer "cause KSM confessed" - that came 2 years after 911.
Can you see why not adding him to the list - when he is listed for other crimes - made people scratch their heads? Add in the plane ride for his family in his name 2 days after 911 when everyone else was grounded. It certainly fuels conspiracy theorists. Maybe it was Bush just granting favors to his business partners the bin ladens - but you're telling me it's okay for bush to wiretap americans for calling their auntie in France, but the bin laden family doesn't even get questioned?
33, you got quiet on this thread man.
Why would OBL comment on this if he had nothing to do with this and it was GWB behind the CT?
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I'm sure KSM had something to do with it logistically.
But you have bin laden CONFESSION ON VIDEO about how he never expected them to collapse, and other details. Our govt confirmed the tape is real. He admitted FOREKNOWLEDGE - and he never went on the Most Wanted list for 911?
33, why the heck not? Your answer "cause KSM confessed" - that came 2 years after 911.
Can you see why not adding him to the list - when he is listed for other crimes - made people scratch their heads? Add in the plane ride for his family in his name 2 days after 911 when everyone else was grounded. It certainly fuels conspiracy theorists. Maybe it was Bush just granting favors to his business partners the bin ladens - but you're telling me it's okay for bush to wiretap americans for calling their auntie in France, but the bin laden family doesn't even get questioned?
33, you got quiet on this thread man.
You realize that the list of crimes on his FBI wanted ad does not include everything he's been charged with, right? Same goes for almost every other person on the list of most wanted terrorists. ::)
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Didnt Samson post a thread a few weeks ago saying Obama was actually Osama? I think I'll bump that gem.
Na your "news" company did that...hahahahahaha
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You realize that the list of crimes on his FBI wanted ad does not include everything he's been charged with, right? Same goes for almost every other person on the list of most wanted terrorists. ::)
I see.
biggest crime in american history, the world leader in terror confesses on video, and he's not wanted for it. hahahahah oh brother.
Why would OBL comment on this if he had nothing to do with this and it was GWB behind the CT?
You know your shit when it comes to obama, but you don't know shit about 911 dude. I never said Dubya did anything on 911 but sit on his hands and keep his mouth shut. I could spend an hour with you, and you'd still be clueless. So let's just make this easy so we can both save some time. You go bash obama some more, I'll watch some porn on tube8.com and we'll both save an hour of wasted time :)
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Na your "news" company did that...hahahahahaha
I don't watch TV other than the Yankees games. I have said that at least 50 times already.
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I see.
biggest crime in american history, the world leader in terror confesses on video, and he's not wanted for it. hahahahah oh brother.
Best way to get acquitted in court I suppose. If he is brought to justice he only has to point out he did it and they basically called him a liar and didn't think he did.
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I see.
biggest crime in american history, the world leader in terror confesses on video, and he's not wanted for it. hahahahah oh brother.
You really go above and beyond in proving that you're a fucking idiot sometimes. He's been on the wanted list since the Tanzania/Kenya bombings. He's BEEN WANTED since the 90s so why would 9/11 have changed that? If and when he's caught, he'll no doubt be charged for 9/11 and a host of other terrorist attacks like the USS Cole. Notice how the USS Cole isn't listed there, either? ::)
Or do you honestly think the FBI would give you a free layup on your CT by not having him wanted for 9/11? In my opinion, hanging on shit like this just discredits your CT as it shows that you really don't have much to go on.
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The last couple years, Bush didn't seem to think Osama was all that important.
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You really go above and beyond in proving that you're a fucking idiot sometimes. He's been on the wanted list since the Tanzania/Kenya bombings. He's BEEN WANTED since the 90s so why would 9/11 have changed that? If and when he's caught, he'll no doubt be charged for 9/11 and a host of other terrorist attacks like the USS Cole. Notice how the USS Cole isn't listed there, either? ::)
Or do you honestly think the FBI would give you a free layup on your CT by not having him wanted for 9/11? In my opinion, hanging on shit like this just discredits your CT as it shows that you really don't have much to go on.
BF - I'm still waiting for the CT from 240.
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The last couple years, Bush didn't seem to think Osama was all that important.
Yeah, Obama is really smoke-em out too LickerEverMore? ::) ::)
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BF - I'm still waiting for the CT from 240.
The CIA did it so that they could spend the next 10+ years chasing people all over the planet. ::)
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Yeah, Obama is really smoke-em out too LickerEverMore? ::) ::)
Did he ever admit he didn't think bib Laden was not important?
Keep struggling. You might make a point yet.
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Did he ever admit he didn't think bib Laden was not important?
Keep struggling. You might make a point yet.
OBAMA = FAIL.
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hey, you can defend the bin laden story. he's not on the 911 most wanted list. you can try to think of reasons why. 33, you have backed off the "KSM did it, so Osama isn't wanted for it" position, good call there.
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hey, you can defend the bin laden story. he's not on the 911 most wanted list. you can try to think of reasons why. 33, you have backed off the "KSM did it, so Osama isn't wanted for it" position, good call there.
WTF are you talking about? I believe KSM was the ring leader and have said so from day 1. OBL was the spirtual leader on that thing and he admitted it.
240 -was the Cole a CT?, WTC 93 a CT, the Khobar towers a CT, etc?