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Can someone give me one decent reason to support a so called "pathway to citizenship" for those here illegally?
Personally, I would deport every one of them without thinking twice about it.
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According to CNN's stellar polling, 84% of the people in this country are in favor of amnesty. ::)
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One ex-governor was asked, "To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?"
Her response was: "I do because I understand why people would want to be in America.”
She might have had more to add, but that was it because she isn't always one to finish what she
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One ex-governor was asked, "To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?"
Her response was: "I do because I understand why people would want to be in America.”
She might have had more to add, but that was it because she isn't always one to finish what she
240, Your promotion of this Lie is getting old.
I pointed it out to you a couple of months back that she doesn't support amnesty, yet you continue with your smear campaign.
She does not support Amnesty, (giving legal status to illegals)
What she does support is having them take their ass back home and get in line, and doing it the legal way.
All she said is she understands why people would want to come here, and that she is for people doing it the legal way.
Here are her own words:
Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants?
"No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They’ve got to follow the bar, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides." -Sarah Palin
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One ex-governor was asked, "To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?"
Her response was: "I do because I understand why people would want to be in America.”
She might have had more to add, but that was it because she isn't always one to finish what she
More deflection and Palin obsession. ::) ::) ::) ::)
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James, this article answers it better than I can:
Sarah Palin finally came out and made her stance on illegal immigration clear. She is pro amnesty for illegal aliens. In an interview to Univision she stated unequivocally that she is for a pathway to citizenship. In the same interview she says she is against amnesty for illegal aliens. Have your cake and eat it to, I think that is called.
You are either against amnesty or you are not. If you are for a pathway to citizenship for those who have illegally entered our country then you are pro-amnesty as you have virtually absolved them of all of their illegality.
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33,
Deflection? LOL!
I have a tougher stance than most "conservatives" on here who voted RINO in 2008.
Break one of their legs at the knee and drop them at the southernmost tips of Mexico. This will minimize the chance of them limping all the way back up - and they'll be easier to notice the second time, with the limp, if they are that determined. You tell them in ONE YEAR, you'll start the policy. Watch how many of them move back in the next 364 days.
My position on amnesty has been stated 2000 times, so please don't act like I'm deflecting the Q. Nobody on this board that I can think of supports this POS bill - they do, however, support candidates (both D and R 2008 offerings) that supported this POS bill.
Sen Thune is VERY MUCH against amnesty. Not like palin, who SUPPORTED MCCAINS BILL, then said she's against it in the next damn sentence.
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James, this article answers it better than I can:
Sarah Palin finally came out and made her stance on illegal immigration clear. She is pro amnesty for illegal aliens. In an interview to Univision she stated unequivocally that she is for a pathway to citizenship. In the same interview she says she is against amnesty for illegal aliens. Have your cake and eat it to, I think that is called.
You are either against amnesty or you are not. If you are for a pathway to citizenship for those who have illegally entered our country then you are pro-amnesty as you have virtually absolved them of all of their illegality.
This is not about Palin, its about posters on this board and my seeking an answer as to why we should support this.
Palin in not VP, Bush is not POTUS, your hero and messiah Obama is. He is the one pushing this disaster, no one else.
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James, this article answers it better than I can:
Sarah Palin finally came out and made her stance on illegal immigration clear. She is pro amnesty for illegal aliens. In an interview to Univision she stated unequivocally that she is for a pathway to citizenship. In the same interview she says she is against amnesty for illegal aliens. Have your cake and eat it to, I think that is called.
You are either against amnesty or you are not. If you are for a pathway to citizenship for those who have illegally entered our country then you are pro-amnesty as you have virtually absolved them of all of their illegality.
That's not at all surprising. Her former running mate once said he was all for gay marriage... then 20 seconds later said he was against it. Politicians will always cater to both sides of the fence, and hope you only remember the statements that coincide with your particular views.
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33,
Deflection? LOL!
I have a tougher stance than most "conservatives" on here who voted RINO in 2008.
Break one of their legs at the knee and drop them at the southernmost tips of Mexico. This will minimize the chance of them limping all the way back up - and they'll be easier to notice the second time, with the limp, if they are that determined. You tell them in ONE YEAR, you'll start the policy. Watch how many of them move back in the next 364 days.
My position on amnesty has been stated 2000 times, so please don't act like I'm deflecting the Q. Nobody on this board that I can think of supports this POS bill - they do, however, support candidates (both D and R 2008 offerings) that supported this POS bill.
Sen Thune is VERY MUCH against amnesty. Not like palin, who SUPPORTED MCCAINS BILL, then said she's against it in the next damn sentence.
Yet in 240's world no one would ever know who is here illegally so everyone gets their legs broken.
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That's not at all surprising. Her former running mate once said he was all for gay marriage... then 20 seconds later said he was against it. Politicians will always cater to both sides of the fence, and hope you only remember the statements that coincide with your particular views.
Jag - if 25 million mexicans, south americans, russians, illegal irish, etc invaded Canada and demanded health care, schooling, benes, druivers license etc, what would your reaction be?
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James, this article answers it better than I can:
Sarah Palin finally came out and made her stance on illegal immigration clear. She is pro amnesty for illegal aliens. In an interview to Univision she stated unequivocally that she is for a pathway to citizenship. In the same interview she says she is against amnesty for illegal aliens. Have your cake and eat it to, I think that is called.
You are either against amnesty or you are not. If you are for a pathway to citizenship for those who have illegally entered our country then you are pro-amnesty as you have virtually absolved them of all of their illegality.
Post the link. Every time you post a quote without the link I have to second guess it. Please post the link.
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240 says he hates illegals but doesnt want all ow the cops to find who they are. ::) ::)
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Post the link. Every time you post a quote without the link I have to second guess it. Please post the link.
240 is flat out wrong, and he knows it, he just is so full of hae for Sarah, he cant see straight.
Here are her own words from that interview :
Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants?
"No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They’ve got to follow the bar, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides." -Sarah Palin
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James, this article answers it better than I can:
Sarah Palin finally came out and made her stance on illegal immigration clear. She is pro amnesty for illegal aliens. In an interview to Univision she stated unequivocally that she is for a pathway to citizenship. In the same interview she says she is against amnesty for illegal aliens. Have your cake and eat it to, I think that is called.
You are either against amnesty or you are not. If you are for a pathway to citizenship for those who have illegally entered our country then you are pro-amnesty as you have virtually absolved them of all of their illegality.
She is for legal immigration, people doing it the legal way, just like our great great grandparents did.
She is not for giving Amnesty to Illegals
why is it so hard for you to understand the difference 240 ?
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If you are here illegally - your ass shouldn't get a pass to sign up for citizenship. You've already shown you shit on US law.
http://www.univision.com/content/content.jhtml;jsessionid=LW3JWTB3WPGCICWIAAOSFFQKZAABYIWC?chid=3&schid=10414&secid=25534&cid=1716304&pagenum=2
Her quote:
To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?
I do because I understand why people would want to be in America.
See - to me, a person who is an "undocumented immigrant" is a fvcking illegal. To me, they shouldn't get "amnesty"... a path to citizenship. They should get thrown out.
And the other Q:
A: Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants?
Palin: "No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. "
So not "Total" amnesty... I don't even know what that means. Does anyone? Any kind of amnesty - letting illegals stay - sucks, in the view of myself and those like Thune.
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She is for legal immigration, people doing it the legal way, just like our great great grandparents did.
She is not for giving Amnesty to Illegals
why is it so hard for you to understand the difference 240 ?
Okay, this must be where we are clashing.
She isn't for giving amnesty for illegals - but she IS for giving them a "pathway" to citizenship.
no matter what the case, she support "Not TOTAL amnesty", but some bastardized version of it, where people who pissed on the border and came here anyway, get to stay.
Sen Thune and others are TRULY against Amnesty. Palin just kinda sits on the fence about it, wouldn't you agree? "Not TOTAL Amnesty" says, IMO, "I dont want to piss off hispanics, or the militia men, so I'm gonna dance around this."
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If you are here illegally - your ass shouldn't get a pass to sign up for citizenship. You've already shown you shit on US law.
http://www.univision.com/content/content.jhtml;jsessionid=LW3JWTB3WPGCICWIAAOSFFQKZAABYIWC?chid=3&schid=10414&secid=25534&cid=1716304&pagenum=2
Her quote:
To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?
I do because I understand why people would want to be in America.
See - to me, a person who is an "undocumented immigrant" is a fvcking illegal. To me, they shouldn't get "amnesty"... a path to citizenship. They should get thrown out.
And the other Q:
A: Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants?
Palin: "No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. "
So not "Total" amnesty... I don't even know what that means. Does anyone? Any kind of amnesty - letting illegals stay - sucks, in the view of myself and those like Thune.
Here is the part 240 left off:
"No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They’ve got to follow the bar, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides." -Sarah Palin
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240 says he hates illegals but doesnt want all ow the cops to find who they are. ::) ::)
Hey, I don't think legal americans with a cali drivers licence should have to carry a birth cert in AZ. To me, that's unamerican.
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She isn't for giving amnesty for illegals - but she IS for giving them a "pathway" to citizenship.
What she supports is the Illegals going back home, and getting in line to do it the legal way.
That is not Amnesty.
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Okay. So those who didn't break the law are first in line.
This implies those who did break the law are second in line. Her position is merely one of administrative preference. She'll let the illegals stay, but they have to wait a bit longer.
Instead of "people who follow the laws are first in line", the position should be "people who break the rules are not welcome in line at all".
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To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?"
Her response was: "I do because I understand why people would want to be in America.”
UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT = ILLEGALS.
Do you support a path? Yes or no? "I do."
I don't. Thune does not. Palin does - she just wants to make them wait in line longer. A TRUE conservative would have said, "No, I DO NOT support a pathway to citizenship for UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS, because they are here illegally, and do not respect US law.:"
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Hey, I don't think legal americans with a cali drivers licence should have to carry a birth cert in AZ. To me, that's unamerican.
Yes you are ok with a cop breaking someones' knees who they don't even know is illegal or not? That is american to you? ::) ::)
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What she supports is the Illegals going back home, and getting in line to do it the legal way.
That is not Amnesty.
She never says that... She just says those who follow the law go FIRST. This implies those who defecate on our law get to go second.
"No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They’ve got to follow the bar, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides." -Sarah Palin
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Yes you are ok with a cop breaking someones' knees who they don't even know is illegal or not? That is american to you? ::) ::)
I never said a cop would do it.
INS would do it - after a long process where they are shown to be 100% illegal - and they'd get busted about 5 minutes before they get dropped off.
No americans will be forced to sit in cuffs while their papers (Valid Cali DL) are deemed not good enough.
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She never says that... She just says those who follow the law go FIRST. This implies those who defecate on our law get to go second.
"No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They’ve got to follow the bar, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides." -Sarah Palin
"those who are here legally should be first in line"
If you cross the border illegally,. then you are illegal, why cant you get that ?
She said people here "legally" (as in legally came here) should be first in line, and not the illegals.
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I never said a cop would do it.
INS would do it - after a long process where they are shown to be 100% illegal - and they'd get busted about 5 minutes before they get dropped off.
No americans will be forced to sit in cuffs while their papers (Valid Cali DL) are deemed not good enough.
60% of the public disagrees with you.
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Those here illegally should be forced to leave and wait in line from their home country and be in the back of the line.
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"those who are here legally should be first in line"
So who is second in line?
She never says "those here ILLEGALLY don't get a spot in line". She never opposes the Amnesty bill. She allows sanctuary cities in her state - which Govs can defeinitely stop.
Dont get me wrong - she's 100% right on most of her issues. On amnesty, she's hispandering here, I think most can admit it.
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Those here illegally should be forced to leave and wait in line from their home country and be in the back of the line.
she never says that.
And "not TOTAL amnesty'..... that sounds to me like "KINDA amnesty".
I'd prefer a candidate like Thune who is against it from minute 1 guys, that's all.
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This is not about Palin, its about posters on this board and my seeking an answer as to why we should support this.
Palin in not VP, Bush is not POTUS, your hero and messiah Obama is. He is the one pushing this disaster, no one else.
I'm not too sure about that. If you recall during the election, Obama was tough on illegal immigration.
He proposed what I considered to be draconian, almost punitive measures be taken against illegals. It was McCain and the Republicans who were all for Amnesty. Now, he's done a complete 180. I think it is those who pull the Presidents strings who are demanding Amnesty for illegals, and as President, they expect Obama to bring it about.
Now, let's ask the age old key question... Cui bono? Who benefits? Who benefits from a blanket amnesty for illegal aliens (besides the illegals themselves) Could it be those who hire them? Who are the big players who routinely hir illegals? Those in the food production industry? We know Dole has already issued orders to the CIA and others in order to ensure their interests both domestically and abroad, what other large food manufacturer might have the ability to influence US policy? Tyson's foods perhaps?
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she never says that.
And "not TOTAL amnesty'..... that sounds to me like "KINDA amnesty".
I'd prefer a candidate like Thune who is against it from minute 1 guys, that's all.
You are the one who brought her up, not me or james and so far she is not running.
Now, do you favor obama's p[athway to citizenship?
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So who is second in line?
She has said that if you are here Illegally, you should go back to your Country and get in the line, that means the end of the line.
She never says "those here ILLEGALLY don't get a spot in line". She never opposes the Amnesty bill. She allows sanctuary cities in her state - which Govs can defeinitely stop.
Rob, you are flat out wrong, she opposes the amnesty Bill. here again are her own words:
Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants?
"No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They’ve got to follow the bar, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides." -Sarah Palin
Rob, do you know what the word "No" means ?
Dont get me wrong - she's 100% right on most of her issues. On amnesty, she's hispandering here, I think most can admit it.
So let me see if I get this straight Rob,, you think she is 100% right on most issues ("100 % right on most issues") yet you smear her name every chance you get..
Rob, we had debate a while back, I showed you where you were wrong, yet you continue your smear campaign. When you know damn well she is against amnesty . This is the reason I hardly ever post on here anymore.
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kegan said foreign law could be useful in America!! well why dont we adopt the n. korean laws for people who enter illegally??
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kegan said foreign law could be useful in America!! well why dont we adopt the n. korean laws for people who enter illegally??
'Cause Clinton already has enough frequent flyer miles. :D
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I'm not too sure about that. If you recall during the election, Obama was tough on illegal immigration.
He proposed what I considered to be draconian, almost punitive measures be taken against illegals. It was McCain and the Republicans who were all for Amnesty. Now, he's done a complete 180. I think it is those who pull the Presidents strings who are demanding Amnesty for illegals, and as President, they expect Obama to bring it about.
Now, let's ask the age old key question... Cui bono? Who benefits? Who benefits from a blanket amnesty for illegal aliens (besides the illegals themselves) Could it be those who hire them? Who are the big players who routinely hir illegals? Those in the food production industry? We know Dole has already issued orders to the CIA and others in order to ensure their interests both domestically and abroad, what other large food manufacturer might have the ability to influence US policy? Tyson's foods perhaps?
I spent weeks attacking Bush and McCain over amnesty and was kicked off FR in 2005 because of it. I signed up recently under another name but that is a different story.
Amnesty for invaders favors big business and the democrats over the middle class schmuck who foots the bill. Big business gets cheap labor and wage deflation, the democrats get votes and people addicted to welfare and in and out of prison.
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I don't support amnesty but how do you get rid of the millions of people who are here illegally??....we don't have the kind of manpower necessary to deport them...it only makes sense that since they are here anyway that we offer amnesty and register them legally so we can keep track of them....I would not offer citizenship right away to those who get amnesty..maybe over a 10 year period if they work and don't commit crimes would I then offer citizenship.....
and people like 3333 are very anti-illegal immigrant when we are talking about Mexicans, but what about all the WHITE illegals here who come from Europe and Ireland...they simply come here on Visas and STAY....should we round them up as well???
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No.
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I don't support amnesty but how do you get rid of the millions of people who are here illegally??....we don't have the kind of manpower necessary to deport them...it only makes sense that since they are here anyway that we offer amnesty and register them legally so we can keep track of them....I would not offer citizenship right away to those who get amnesty..maybe over a 10 year period if they work and don't commit crimes would I then offer citizenship.....
and people like 3333 are very anti-illegal immigrant when we are talking about Mexicans, but what about all the WHITE illegals here who come from Europe and Ireland...they simply come here on Visas and STAY....should we round them up as well???
I don't favor sending out posses to round people up. I favor policies that will force self deportation over time and securing the border and visa over stay issues now.
Someone gets arreseted - call ice.
Someone has to go to the ICU - treat em, stabilize em - call ice
Someone burns down a flop house and there are 20 illegals on the corner - call the paddy wagon and call ice.
Go after employers without abondon and make many of the these CEO's and HR managers do real hard time.
BTW I live in Woodlawn and we have estimates of 40,000 illegal irish alone around here.
Whats' wrong with my plan?
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Yes!! All illegals, mexicans, whites, black, whatever if your illegal you shouldn't be here. If you cant even enter America legally why should anyone believe you will respect any of the other laws??
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If illegals are fined $20,000 each then yes. But they have to pay in gold not dollars. If they can't come up with the money they ship back to Mexico.
It is the law! How the fuck can you have immigration laws and then not hold people to those standards. If they give amnesty to 20 million illegals what message is that going to send to the next batch of a million illegals?
USA may just as well open its legs and get raped at will. That is what this amounts to. Seriously how any sane American citizen could even entertain this idea is beyond comprehension. Do you really think giving amnesty to illegals will prevent future illegals from entering?? Wake up! Close the borders and enforce the immigration laws that were put in place. How fucking stupid can you be!!!
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I don't favor sending out posses to round people up. I favor policies that will force self deportation over time and securing the border and visa over stay issues now.
Someone gets arreseted - call ice.
Someone has to go to the ICU - treat em, stabilize em - call ice
Someone burns down a flop house and there are 20 illegals on the corner - call the paddy wagon and call ice.
Go after employers without abondon and make many of the these CEO's and HR managers do real hard time.
BTW I live in Woodlawn and we have estimates of 40,000 illegal irish alone around here.
Whats' wrong with my plan?
Your plan is admirable, but unrealistic....very few illegals are gonna simply pack up and head home where they will have an immediate substantial drop in their standard of living....the choice will be stay here and eat or go home and starve..which would you pick?....not to mention there are too many families in their countries who depend on the money which illegals send back...so its stay here and support my family the way a man should ort go back and look my wife and kids in the eyes and watch them starve...I know I'm being a little simplistic but thats a big part of this....these people are not evil....just trying to survive...they have been crossing the border for hundreds of years....they are not going to0 stop because of enforcement
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Then fine, give out work permits, but make it so that they can't get welfare or public assistance, show evidence of financial support, hasve an employer post a bond for them in case of illness or work accident, etc.
I sponsored my friends' wife for citizenship and had to sign a personal guaranty of support. It took her a few years to get citizenship the legal way. She is from Venzuela and loathes illegals knowing what she went through to get here legally.
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If illegals are fined $20,000 each then yes. But they have to pay in gold not dollars. If they can't come up with the money they ship back to Mexico.
It is the law! How the fuck can you have immigration laws and then not hold people to those standards. If they give amnesty to 20 million illegals what message is that going to send to the next batch of a million illegals?
USA may just as well open its legs and get raped at will. That is what this amounts to. Seriously how any sane American citizen could even entertain this idea is beyond comprehension. Do you really think giving amnesty to illegals will prevent future illegals from entering?? Wake up! Close the borders and enforce the immigration laws that were put in place. How fucking stupid can you be!!!
it's not a matter of stupidity...it's cost.....whether we like it or not, it would cost too much for us to deport a guy who will sneak back across the border in a few days anyway....if every single illegal immigrant turned him/herself in tomorrow it would overwhelm our courts, our immigration services and our enforcement agencies.....it woud simply cost too much to kick them out..thats the big secret in all of this...I agree that amnesty is distasteful...but we have no other choice....
As an example..why are states releasing prisoners early?....cost....why are serious crimes downgraded and prosoners allowed to plead to lesser crimes?..cost.....we don't like it but our country would go bankrupt if we prosecuted everyone on the merits...same with illegal immigration
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Then fine, give out work permits, but make it so that they can't get welfare or public assistance, show evidence of financial support, hasve an employer post a bond for them in case of illness or work accident, etc.
I sponsored my friends' wife for citizenship and had to sign a personal guaranty of support. It took her a few years to get citizenship the legal way. She is from Venzuela and loathes illegals knowing what she went through to get here legally.
your work permit idea isn't bad...but then you would have to change the law about U.S, citizenship....its a myth that illegals get welfare...they can't...but their American born children qualify for foodstamps..welfare...me dicaid..etc...
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your work permit idea isn't bad...but then you would have to change the law about U.S, citizenship....its a myth that illegals get welfare...they can't...but their American born children qualify for foodstamps..welfare...me dicaid..etc...
If they made the qualifications the same for these people, 2 citizen sponsors, personal guaratees of support, evidence of employment & knowing english, dealt with the anchor baby situation, and seriously dealt with the border, I would not be as against it.
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;D
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If they made the qualifications the same for these people, 2 citizen sponsors, personal guaratees of support, evidence of employment & knowing english, dealt with the anchor baby situation, and seriously dealt with the border, I would not be as against it.
fair enough....but my contention with you is that you seem to blame Obama for all of the illegal immigration because you are trying to score political points against him when none of the other presidents did anything about it either....I give Bush some credit for trying to build a fence but he never dealt with the laws governing immigration..just decided to put up a fence which the illegals scale everyday anyway...and again we have to deal with the guys who come over on airplanes as well..not just pick on the ones who are poor.
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The fact remains Presidential administrations have been granting illegals amnesty on a regular basis over the years.
It's usually done every 8 yrs to 12 years or so and usually by Republicans, ...Reagan did it, but Bush senior lost his bid at a 2nd term, so it was left to Clinton. Now it's Obama's turn to grant amnesty, and who ever is in office in 2020 will be granting amnesty as well. Amnesty for illegals every 12 years, is US policy and has been for decades.
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If amnesty some new, nicer way of saying deportation then I'm all for it.
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;D
lol :)
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You are the one who brought her up, not me or james and so far she is not running.
Now, do you favor obama's p[athway to citizenship?
Hell no! If you have ever entered the US illegally, your ass is OFF the "potential citizenship" list, PERIOD!
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Hell no! If you have ever entered the US illegally, your ass is OFF the "potential citizenship" list, PERIOD!
...unless you're Cuban, ...in which case... the minute your feet touch US soil... INSTANT CITIZENSHIP!!!!
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...unless you're Cuban, ...in which case... the minute your feet touch US soil... INSTANT CITIZENSHIP!!!!
That's simple politics and has nothing to do with right or wrong.
None of them should be here.
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That's simple politics and has nothing to do with right or wrong.
None of them should be here.
It's all politics!
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It's all politics!
That's the problem.
Canadians want America to fail and would never accept millions of illegals.
Politicians want votes and will never do the right thing.
The middle class and poor will stay stuck in the middle until they start forcing term limit onto ballots and boycotting certain legislative decisions by refusing to spend money.
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Obama/Bush/McCain/Graham are all playing word games on this.
Pay a fine? - with what money and who is going to collect that?
Back of the line? Do you think they give a rats ass about that?
Speak English? Most are illiterate as it is.
Secure the border? How did that work out in 1986?
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Great one.
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No
What is Amnesty "for illegals"? Is there such a thing as Amnesty for legals?
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Obama/Bush/McCain/Graham are all playing word games on this.
Pay a fine? - with what money and who is going to collect that?
Back of the line? Do you think they give a rats ass about that?
Speak English? Most are illiterate as it is.
Secure the border? How did that work out in 1986?
Do you think palin is playing word games too?
"Not TOTAL amnesty..."
Come on, that's not straight talk.
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I support amnesty for those already here.
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I support amnesty for those already here.
And what is 30 million flood the border after that? Do you support amnesty for them too?
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I support amnesty for those already here.
So they should be rewarded for entering the country illegally? What about the millions of people who wait years to enter this country through legal channels? Are the illegals that already here better than them or something?
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no
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The problem is that as soon as you give the present ones amnesty, we are going to be in the same situation 20 years from now.
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The problem is that as soon as you give the present ones amnesty, we are going to be in the same situation 20 years from now.
Potentially yes. But it certainly makes it easier to swallow a tougher border stance in liberal areas given that there is amnesty for those already here.
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Potentially yes. But it certainly makes it easier to swallow a tougher border stance in liberal areas given that there is amnesty for those already here.
That never happens.
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That never happens.
You're saying this as if amnesty has already been given. It's an easier sell to close the borders if you give amnesty for those already here.
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You're saying this as if amnesty has already been given. It's an easier sell to close the borders if you give amnesty for those already here.
KC - how old are you? Im saying this because I remember the last debates over amnesty.
I'm using past experience as a barometer for the future. The last amnesty was sold to where it was the last ever and they would secure the borde.r They granted amnesty to many millions of people, never secured the border, and hence we have the same problem.
most people, inclusing myself, have no faith thatt he govt will take the enforcement side seriously at all.
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You're saying this as if amnesty has already been given. It's an easier sell to close the borders if you give amnesty for those already here.
The majority of Americans already want the border closed. No need to sell amnesty to get people to want to close the borders. But this is what CNN and other far-lefters are zeroing in on with trying to tie the two together.
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Okay close the border without amnesty, then watch as Americans are not allowed in central American countries or South American countries. The closing of a border without amnesty for those inside would result in a massive sh*t storm for Americans and further relegate America's international status to that of a tyrant.
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Okay close the border without amnesty, then watch as Americans are not allowed in central American countries or South American countries. The closing of a border without amnesty for those inside would result in a massive sh*t storm for Americans and further relegate America's international status to that of a tyrant.
Nice, your entire argument is built on hyperbole. Thanks for playing.
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Okay close the border without amnesty, then watch as Americans are not allowed in central American countries or South American countries. The closing of a border without amnesty for those inside would result in a massive sh*t storm for Americans and further relegate America's international status to that of a tyrant.
Those countries dont permit illegal aliens to get away with it, why should we?
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Those countries dont permit illegal aliens to get away with it, why should we?
Because we are the better country. Why do you always think we should stoop to low levels of humanity? If others are so closed minded that they have policies that do not allow their countries to become great then so be it, but America is great and it's great because we aren't like everyone else.
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Those countries dont permit illegal aliens to get away with it, why should we?
It's well documented how atrociously most Central and South American countries treat illegals yet we're supposed to give amnesty because the leftists are claiming they'll bar Americans from entering those countries.
What a joke. Do they honestly expect us to believe that? ::)
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So they should be rewarded for entering the country illegally? What about the millions of people who wait years to enter this country through legal channels? Are the illegals that already here better than them or something?
Why are you avoiding this, KC?
Are the people who enter America illegally better than the ones who do it through legal channels and wait years for the opportunity to come here?
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Great one.
BOB is saying EXACTLY what I've been saying for 2 years on getbig!!!!!!!!
FINE THE EMPLOYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bob says you don't need a wall, you don't need to be checking IDs. You fine the hell out of the employers $$$$$$$ and THE ILLEGALS WILL LEAVE.
Good call, Bob. Good link, 33.
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That's the problem.
Canadians want America to fail and would never accept millions of illegals.
America's failure is one of the last things Canadians want. America is our largest trading partner.
America fails and Canada is fvcked.
Politicians want votes and will never do the right thing.
The middle class and poor will stay stuck in the middle until they start forcing term limit onto ballots and boycotting certain legislative decisions by refusing to spend money.
You cannot stop spending money in a consumer society.
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America's failure is one of the last things Canadians want. America is our largest trading partner.
America fails and Canada is fvcked.
You cannot stop spending money in a consumer society.
Once America fails Canada will suck a little less. That way at least the people from Quebec may actually have reason to be so arrogant on a regular basis.
We need to cut personal spending one day/week in protest because tax revenue is the only language the legislature understands. Plenty of businesses take a day off, consumers should as well.
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The problem in America is the kind of immigrants that are coming in lately..as opposed to the white Europeans that helped build this country and made it great. If you look beyond the politically correct rose colored glasses, you see the truth. If you study ancient history, you will see which people were the most evolved and civilized. They had an infrastructure in ancient Rome that is still light years ahead of many parts of Africa. Look at all the dysfunctional countries in the world today...now look at their majority population...Are they white Europeans? Of course not. Look at Haiti, Africa....Look at what happened to South Africa after Mandela. It's a total disaster. The reasons are obvious, unless you're a dumb ass liberal. It's a fact that America is browning... and in the future when the majority population resembles that of the dysfunctional dark skinned countries, America will become like them as well. Who commits the majority of violent crime in this Country? We used to have immigrants that were skilled and contributed. Now we have fruit pickers. I could live on less fruit if they'd keep these bastards out. Hopefully, there will be one Country in the world where the people will be strong enough to keep the shit out. It's already too late for America. That's where I will have to move one day. Requiem for the USA. It was a great country while it lasted.
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Can someone give me one decent reason to support a so called "pathway to citizenship" for those here illegally?
Personally, I would deport every one of them without thinking twice about it.
WOP...That was the term for you and your own 3... As it stands you are no more than an ANCHOR BABY yourself. So please pack your belongings and prepare to ship out back to Italy. What reason is there that YOU should remain in america since you and your own are as ILLEGAL as the ones who came after you in the exact same fashion?
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The problem in America is the kind of immigrants that are coming in lately..as opposed to the white Europeans that helped build this country and made it great. If you look beyond the politically correct rose colored glasses, you see the truth. If you study ancient history, you will see which people were the most evolved and civilized. They had an infrastructure in ancient Rome that is still light years ahead of many parts of Africa. Look at all the dysfunctional countries in the world today...now look at their majority population...Are they white Europeans? Of course not. Look at Haiti, Africa....Look at what happened to South Africa after Mandela. It's a total disaster. The reasons are obvious, unless you're a dumb ass liberal. It's a fact that America is browning... and in the future when the majority population resembles that of the dysfunctional dark skinned countries, America will become like them as well. Who commits the majority of violent crime in this Country? We used to have immigrants that were skilled and contributed. Now we have fruit pickers. I could live on less fruit if they'd keep these bastards out. Hopefully, there will be one Country in the world where the people will be strong enough to keep the shit out. It's already too late for America. That's where I will have to move one day. Requiem for the USA. It was a great country while it lasted.
Um.. built america? Are you on drugs? the garbage that arrived in america discovered a land highly developed and a society the likes of which they had never seen in their lives. Not the concrete jungle and caves in which whites dwell, but a peaceful land that was described as a PARADISE.... something it is NOT described as today.
The very constitution of america was built on the laws of the Native Peoples of america and the knowledge on home building, survival, agriculture, civilization is only the beginnings of what the Native People taught whites. Does your nation even know it has a constitution? THe Native People tamed and educated the SAVAGE only to have it "BITE THE MASTERS HAND". Now look at america... DECIMATED, DESECRATED, UNCIVILIZED... A SAVAGE NATION to say the least. And where are those Native People who educated them???... Oh yeah on CONCENTRATION CAMPS called reservations...How nice. Imagine a people who see themselves as "civilized" treating the Native People in that fashion after all they did. And since then the european savage has been on a wanton murdering and killing spree to this very day. TO hear anyone referring to these people as civilized, intelligent or having built anything but a HELL ON EARTH is laughable at best.
BTW have you studied any history other than the LIES told to you on the white washed caucasian history? Did you ask where the Romans learned anything from? Maybe you should have asked the Greeks who taught them. THen you should have asked who taught the Greeks... then the Africans would have stood up and said we taught them. Clearly your learning has been in LYING because no person even mildly intelligent would have made the statement you did.
Makes me feel good to see americas downfall and eventual destruction. That will take out of the world a people and a mindset that has been more destructive that any pandemic that has ever existed on this planet.
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Um.. built america? Are you on drugs? the garbage that arrived in america discovered a land highly developed and a society the likes of which they had never seen in their lives. Not the concrete jungle and caves in which whites dwell, but a peaceful land that was described as a PARADISE.... something it is NOT described as today.
The very constitution of america was built on the laws of the Native Peoples of america and the knowledge on home building, survival, agriculture, civilization is only the beginnings of what the Native People taught whites. Does your nation even know it has a constitution? THe Native People tamed and educated the SAVAGE only to have it "BITE THE MASTERS HAND". Now look at america... DECIMATED, DESECRATED, UNCIVILIZED... A SAVAGE NATION to say the least. And where are those Native People who educated them???... Oh yeah on CONCENTRATION CAMPS called reservations...How nice. Imagine a people who see themselves as "civilized" treating the Native People in that fashion after all they did. And since then the european savage has been on a wanton murdering and killing spree to this very day. TO hear anyone referring to these people as civilized, intelligent or having built anything but a HELL ON EARTH is laughable at best.
BTW have you studied any history other than the LIES told to you on the white washed caucasian history? Did you ask where the Romans learned anything from? Maybe you should have asked the Greeks who taught them. THen you should have asked who taught the Greeks... then the Africans would have stood up and said we taught them. Clearly your learning has been in LYING because no person even mildly intelligent would have made the statement you did.
Makes me feel good to see americas downfall and eventual destruction. That will take out of the world a people and a mindset that has been more destructive that any pandemic that has ever existed on this planet.
Keep having wet dreams moron. You think blacks are so great go look at Africa. Look at how great mugabe was for Zimbabwe. Your fantasies are just that, fantasies. You think blacks will be able to sustain a population of billions on their own? Think again - go look at the cluster fuck that has occurred in Africa whenever a black tried his hands at farming.
You owe WHITE people everything. That computer you're typing on was the original concept of a WHITE man. You are speaking ENGLISH - a language that was developed by WHITES. You have been throughly owned by WHITES. You are their bitch by default whether you like it or not. That car you drive was originally developed by WHITES. Your culture is the result of WHITE influence. Can you speak another language?? You may as well forget about English since you despise WHITES so much. Go learn your forefather's language. Everytime you speak / write you are showing how the WHITE man owned you and your ancestors. The only reason you are prosperring is because of the kindness of WHITES.
WHITES in America fought against and killed each other so YOU could have your FREEDOM. What have you done lately for WHITES? How have WHITES benefitted from your existence?
Speak up scrotum!
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yes.
there arent enough school buses in the country that can transport 11 million + people to mexico.
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Once America fails Canada will suck a little less. That way at least the people from Quebec may actually have reason to be so arrogant on a regular basis.
First of all, you need to get this straight... CANADA DOESN'T SUCK! >:(
Secondly, the Quebecois have never needed a reason to be so arrogant, why would they need one now?
We need to cut personal spending one day/week in protest because tax revenue is the only language the legislature understands. Plenty of businesses take a day off, consumers should as well.
And you think it makes a difference is you wait until Tuesday, instead of monday to make that much needed purchase? ::)
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First of all, you need to get this straight... CANADA DOESN'T SUCK! >:(
Secondly, the Quebecois have never needed a reason to be so arrogant, why would they need one now?
And you think it makes a difference is you wait until Tuesday, instead of monday to make that much needed purchase? ::)
Consuming less and saving more will make a huge difference.
Additionally, the state need to feel, hear, get an organized "F-U" weekly so they know people are pissed. I'm talking real Boston Tea Party stuff not a bunch of idiots marching and yelling about Marxism, Maoism, Taoism or whatever other ism they're always going on about. The british didn't take notice until people started dumping tea in the harbor. Taxes are the only language they can possibly understand.
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The interest in the tea party really seems to be fading. They cancelled their convention just a few weeks before it was to be held? That's a lot of people who already booked flights, hotels, etc (or is it?)
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The interest in the tea party really seems to be fading. They cancelled their convention just a few weeks before it was to be held? That's a lot of people who already booked flights, hotels, etc (or is it?)
Until people start saying "F-U" in a way politicians cannot ignore we're all going to keep getting boned.
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The interest in the tea party really seems to be fading. They cancelled their convention just a few weeks before it was to be held? That's a lot of people who already booked flights, hotels, etc (or is it?)
::) ::) Obama is as unpopular as ever. His agenda is applauded by CPUSA, his rating are that of Carters', his economic plan is failed, and most peopl eare against his amnesty scheme.
Its only you and the LGBT'ers that view him with rose colored glasses.
Amnesty for illegals is akin to applauding anarachy.
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::) ::) Obama is as unpopular as ever. His agenda is applauded by CPUSA, his rating are that of Carters', his economic plan is failed, and most peopl eare against his amnesty scheme.
Its only you and the LGBT'ers that view him with rose colored glasses.
Amnesty for illegals is akin to applauding anarachy.
My post was about the tea party losing popularity.
Your post was about Obama losing popularity.
Do you agree or disagree with my point? And what does Obama have to do with the tea party? Sounds like youre changing the subject ;)
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My post was about the tea party losing popularity.
Your post was about Obama losing popularity.
Do you agree or disagree with my point? And what does Obama have to do with the tea party? Sounds like youre changing the subject ;)
Yeah 240, the Tea Party is so unpopular that the candidates it backed won their primaries in many of the races, many of the issues they champion are agree with by at least 50% of the population, etc.
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Yeah 240, the Tea Party is so unpopular that the candidates it backed won their primaries in many of the races, many of the issues they champion are agree with by at least 50% of the population, etc.
Why do you think they cancelled the convention? One of their reasons: "It is hot in Las vegas in the summer".
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Yeah 240, the Tea Party is so unpopular that the candidates it backed won their primaries in many of the races, many of the issues they champion are agree with by at least 50% of the population, etc.
So you think Angle will win over Harry Reid in Nevada? Straight question, since Harry Reid is the most "despised" politician aside Pelosi by your standards. That should be a very easy win for the Tea Party.
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So you think Angle will win over Harry Reid in Nevada? Straight question, since Harry Reid is the most "despised" politician aside Pelosi by your standards. That should be a very easy win for the Tea Party.
Yes, I'll make that call. If I'm wrong, so be it. But I think Reid is gone.
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So you think Angle will win over Harry Reid in Nevada? Straight question, since Harry Reid is the most "despised" politician aside Pelosi by your standards. That should be a very easy win for the Tea Party.
Barring some blue dress or macacca like gaffe, Angle will win.
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Can someone give me one decent reason to support a so called "pathway to citizenship" for those here illegally?
Personally, I would deport every one of them without thinking twice about it.
case by case i see it being helpfull.......there are a lot of illegals that i feel could contribute to helping this country grow.....i would also like to kick a lot of them out.....i would like to kick out a lot of non productive americans also...
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case by case i see it being helpfull.......there are a lot of illegals that i feel could contribute to helping this country grow.....i would also like to kick a lot of them out.....i would like to kick out a lot of non productive americans also...
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Start with the ones that have a record. Guilty of crimes of some sort. Nothing against that, but to start rounding up people who crossed the border illegally, or people who have some sort of social contribution here and sent them home regardless of what kind of family ties they have or how much this move would damage their family structure is simply madness. But that's just my opinion.
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What determines helping this country grow? Having a job? Donating to charity? Not being a criminal? Far too vague and far too many illegals to analyze on a case-by-case basis.
So they should be rewarded for entering the country illegally? What about the millions of people who wait years to enter this country through legal channels? Are the illegals that already here better than them or something?
Love how this keeps going ignored by the pro-amnesty far-leftists like kcballer.
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What determines helping this country grow? Having a job? Donating to charity? Not being a criminal? Far too vague and far too many illegals to analyze on a case-by-case basis.
Love how this keeps going ignored by the pro-amnesty far-leftists like kcballer.
what i mean is if you are a natural born American with a life long career of crime, or unemployment...your hurting us, and you need to go.... if you are a non us born foreigner with a valuable skill, and good standing individual, you can be taken into consideration for amnesty(not guaranteed).....we aren't talking minimal skills here......something that is actually valuable...
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Bloomberg said something similar the other day. He said if you are an immigrant employing 10 or more people, or a foreginer who can demonstrate that he will employ 10 or more citizens, you should be given the red carpet treatment.
I agree 10000000000%
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So they should be rewarded for entering the country illegally? What about the millions of people who wait years to enter this country through legal channels? Are the illegals that already here better than them or something?
My sentiments exactly!! If they're going to reward the criminals for their crimes, then they need to issue REFUNDS to all those immigrants who came here LEGALLY. You can start with some family members of mine, who immigrated here from Jamaica.
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My sentiments exactly!! If they're going to reward the criminals for their crimes, then they need to issue REFUNDS to all those immigrants who came here LEGALLY. You can start with some family members of mine, who immigrated here from Jamaica.
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Add me to the list. I paid over $20,000 in legal and federal fees to get a green card. Why the hell did I go through all this bullshit and jump through hoops? The Obama administration needs to be very careful about this issue - it will sink them. What message are they sending to future illegal immigrants if 10 million are granted amnesty?? Didn't Reagan try that already? How did it work out?
Amnesty = Civil War.
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Bloomberg said something similar the other day. He said if you are an immigrant employing 10 or more people, or a foreginer who can demonstrate that he will employ 10 or more citizens, you should be given the red carpet treatment.
I agree 10000000000%
So you're okay with people being here illegally - IF they can make money and put others to work?
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So you're okay with people being here illegally - IF they can make money and put others to work?
No, I want to invite every business person from overseas over here and deport the criminals. Bloomberg said its too expensive for legal people and too easy for the criminals.
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Add me to the list. I paid over $20,000 in legal and federal fees to get a green card. Why the hell did I go through all this bullshit and jump through hoops? The Obama administration needs to be very careful about this issue - it will sink them. What message are they sending to future illegal immigrants if 10 million are granted amnesty?? Didn't Reagan try that already? How did it work out?
Amnesty = Civil War.
Was your experience anything like that 80s sitcom with Yakov Smirnoff?
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Was your experience anything like that 80s sitcom with Yakov Smirnoff?
Never seen that sitcom. I had numerous H1-B Visas, Green Card Sponsorships (Employer and family). It cost me an arm and a leg. Many meetings with lawyers over a period of 10 years. If illegals are given amnesty it is a slap in the face to people that followed the legal route.
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Never seen that sitcom. I had numerous H1-B Visas, Green Card Sponsorships (Employer and family). It cost me an arm and a leg. Many meetings with lawyers over a period of 10 years. If illegals are given amnesty it is a slap in the face to people that followed the legal route.
All obama and the dems care about are votes from the illiterate hispanics. Get over it.
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Never seen that sitcom. I had numerous H1-B Visas, Green Card Sponsorships (Employer and family). It cost me an arm and a leg. Many meetings with lawyers over a period of 10 years. If illegals are given amnesty it is a slap in the face to people that followed the legal route.
The show was called "What A Country!". I remember Smirnoff and the guy who played an African prince
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ok, so we agree no amnesty.
how you gonna get rid of 11 million people? a giant car pool to mexico?
does anyone who opposes amnesty have a solution?
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ok, so we agree no amnesty.
how you gonna get rid of 11 million people? a giant car pool to mexico?
does anyone who opposes amnesty have a solution?
Make it so they have no choice but to self deport. Crack down on employers like no tommorow. Send a few to jail for many years, place ICE officers in the jails and ER's, and schools, etc.
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Make it so they have no choice but to self deport. Crack down on employers like no tommorow. Send a few to jail for many years, place ICE officers in the jails and ER's, and schools, etc.
WOW!!!!..talk about NAZISM!!....take it easy 3333..it's getting harder and harder to take you seriously.....you used to post intelligent stuff..now you're getting looney in your desperation
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WOW!!!!..talk about NAZISM!!....take it easy 3333..it's getting harder and harder to take you seriously.....you used to post intelligent stuff..now you're getting looney in your desperation
Why?
If your an employer and get busted highing illegals - you go to jail.
If your an illegal and get arrseted and convicted and go to jail - you get deported.
If you go to the ER and are an illegal, you get treated, stabilized under EMTALA, and then referred to ICE for deportation.
What is wrong with that?
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Why?
If your an employer and get busted highing illegals - you go to jail.
If your an illegal and get arrseted and convicted and go to jail - you get deported.
If you go to the ER and are an illegal, you get treated, stabilized under EMTALA, and then referred to ICE for deportation.
What is wrong with that?
whats wrong with that is that a lot of WHITE people would go to jail along with the illegals...who do you think is employing all of these illegals?
when you eat in a restaurant who is often waiting your table?...who is bussing it?...who washes the dishes when you are done?....who actually chopping up the food in the back and often preparing it?...you gonna throw restaurant owners in jail??...
how about all the middle class and rich whites who employ nannies and gardeners and maids who are illegal?...they number in the thousands...you gonna put them in jail as well??
how about all the farmers who benefit from having illegals for cheap labor??..and all the nice cheap food u buy in the supermarket???....you willing to pay $4 for a loaf of bread??
you gonna put farmers in jail too?
you talk a really good game but the reality is that once whites are being locked up for this stuff, you'll change your mind really fast!
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whats wrong with that is that a lot of WHITE people would go to jail along with the illegals...who do you think is employing all of these illegals?
when you eat in a restaurant who is often waiting your table?...who is bussing it?...who washes the dishes when you are done?....who actually chopping up the food in the back and often preparing it?...you gonna throw restaurant owners in jail??...
how about all the middle class and rich whites who employ nannies and gardeners and maids who are illegal?...they number in the thousands...you gonna put them in jail as well??
how about all the farmers who benefit from having illegals for cheap labor??..and all the nice cheap food u buy in the supermarket???....you willing to pay $4 for a loaf of bread??
you gonna put farmers in jail too?
you talk a really good game but the reality is that once whites are being locked up for this stuff, you'll change your mind really fast!
Too freaking bad.
I would gladly $4 a loaf of bread if we could deport all the illegals and put all the welfar ebums on farms growing the food.
BTW - while we may pay more for food, we might pay less in taxes that these people are costing the states.
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Too freaking bad.
I would gladly $4 a loaf of bread if we could deport all the illegals and put all the welfar ebums on farms growing the food.
BTW - while we may pay more for food, we might pay less in taxes that these people are costing the states.
No....we would lose money because these people CONTRIBUTE much more than they get back in return...they get no welfare, no social security, no disability..the only argument you could use is that they take up some of our tax dollars in terms of their children going to school....and maybe the cost of incarceration when they get arrested..or even when they get hospitalized.....
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she's made her position clearer now.
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Rob, you are flat out wrong, she opposes the amnesty Bill. here again are her own words:
She clarified her position yesterday on OReilly:
“We won’t complicate it any more. Let’s keep it simple and let’s say, ‘No, if you are here illegally and you don’t follow the steps that at some point through immigration reform we’re going to be able to provide, and that is to somehow allow you to work. If you’re not going to do that, you will be deported you will be gone.”
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/sarah-palin-americans-must-learn-from-reagans-mistakes-on-illegal-immigration/
So now we know. If you're here illegally, you don't have to leave. Listen to the interview. She admits we can't kick the illegals out. Instead, you have to fill out papers. if you fail to fill out the paper, THEN you have to leave.
If that's not amnesty, I don't know what is!
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I don't favor this pathway to citizenship bs whatsoever. Its amnesty no matter how you spin it.
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I don't favor this pathway to citizenship bs whatsoever. Its amnesty no matter how you spin it.
Great call 33.
I think some palin fans believe since she says "I dont want amnesty" that it means she's against it.
When finally asked (for the first time since telemundo's awkward questioning), she referred to the political doublespeak "whatever it takes!"
That's lame, of course, typical politician. OReilly didn't let her 'spin' it though... he made her elaborate. When she did, well, you saw the answer. She made it clear no illegals will have to leave, as long as they fill out paperwork.
That's amnesty. You can call it something else. But letting them stay, as long as they sign a paper? Sorry guys, I know many of you are fans, but she's as bad as Mccain and Obama on this issue.
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Like I said, I favor policies that encourage self deportation. Obviousl if we catch illegals they need the trebuche' over the border. However, this pathway to citizenship nonsense is offensive to my ears since we all know its amnesty by any other word.
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240 - Check these out - ha ha ha ha ha ha I love youtube
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I don't favor this pathway to citizenship bs whatsoever. Its amnesty no matter how you spin it.
then you can be the lead car in the caravan that loads up all the illegals, drives them to the border and kicks them out.
Would be a great photo op....you, and 15,000 cars, vans, SUVs , trucks....driving and dumping the illegals. would be on FOX all day! You would beat out Joe the Plumber in popularity !
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then you can be the lead car in the caravan that loads up all the illegals, drives them to the border and kicks them out.
Would be a great photo op....you, and 15,000 cars, vans, SUVs , trucks....driving and dumping the illegals. would be on FOX all day! You would beat out Joe the Plumber in popularity !
I would favor laws that encourage self deportation. ICE officers in schools, hospitals, jails, etc.
Throw a few CEO's in jail for a few decades, etc. Change the anchor bomb law, etc.
These invaders do not deserve a pathway to anywhere but the hell out here.
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All obama and the dems care about are votes from the illiterate hispanics. Get over it.
333 you don't even try to hide your racism anymore
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333 you don't even try to hide your racism anymore
Am i wrong?
Why else do dems encourage illegal immigration and immigration from countries of primarily poor illiterate populations?
ANSWER - VOTES
Why don't they encourage immigration from Europe, Canada, India, Korea, Japan, etc?
ANSWER - MOST EDUCATED PEOPLE DON'T BUY INTO THE DEMOCRAT WELFARE PLANTATION
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Can someone give me one decent reason to support a so called "pathway to citizenship" for those here illegally? Personally, I would deport every one of them without thinking twice about it.
If not for illegals who would clean our homes? American domestics suck!
Lupida rules!!! :D :D :D
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If not for illegals who would clean our homes? American domestics suck!
Lupida rules!!! :D :D :D
Typical dem plantation mentality.
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If not for illegals who would clean our homes? American domestics suck!
Lupida rules!!! :D :D :D
American domestics suck! (truth)
Lupita Rules!!!!
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aside from Thune, I can't think of any Repub 2012 potentials who are AGAINST amnesty.
Anyone know Newt's position?
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CBS SHOCK POLL: 74% say Arizona illegal immigration law about right, doesn't go far enough
CBS ^ | 07.14.10
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:04:47 AM by VU4G10
57% of Americans see Arizona’s recent immigration law – which gives police the power to question someone they have already stopped, detained, or arrested about their legal status in the country, and requires people to produce documents verifying their status if asked – as about right, an uptick of five points since May. 23% think the law goes too far, and 17% say it does not go far enough.
(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
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American domestics suck! (truth)
Lupita Rules!!!!
and her excellent gardener- husband, Juan !
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American domestics suck! (truth)
Lupita Rules!!!!
Good example of a leftist who despises America and the people who live in it right here. ::)
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Can someone give me one decent reason to support a so called "pathway to citizenship" for those here illegally?
Personally, I would deport every one of them without thinking twice about it.
Lupita (illegal mexican) is our all time BEST domestic. American workers are lazy and suck monkey balls!
Truth.
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Lupita (illegal mexican) is our all time BEST domestic. American workers are lazy and suck monkey balls!
Truth.
Good, maybe we can deport you to Kenya along with MAObama
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so now that she's explained her position - illegals can stay as long as they fill out a paper - can we stop that argument that Palin is against amnesty, once and for all?
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so now that she's explained her position - illegals can stay as long as they fill out a paper - can we stop that argument that Palin is against amnesty, once and for all?
Fine. I support a 90 day window. you get your stuff together and leave, and if you are caught after that, you are gone, no questions asked.
Catapult over the border.
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Fine. I support a 90 day window. you get your stuff together and leave, and if you are caught after that, you are gone, no questions asked.
Catapult over the border.
jhahahahahaha that'd be awesome. Adios!
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Can someone give me one decent reason to support a so called "pathway to citizenship" for those here illegally?
Personally, I would deport every one of them without thinking twice about it.
I think the most practical solution to this problem is prevention, NOT deportation. If we give all these illegals a pathway to citizenship, what are we gonna do with the millions that flood after them.
Build a F-ing wall, patrol it with 100k troops from Iraq.
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I think we need a few ceos and soccer moms in jail to TBH.