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Title: Republican Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: The_Hammer on July 01, 2010, 01:40:25 PM
RIP Officers Evans and Paudert.

New Video Released Today.

Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: Army of One on July 01, 2010, 01:44:31 PM
I think the father is just pised off because it looks like he mistimed his carb load on the day.
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: G_Thang on July 01, 2010, 01:48:52 PM
sorry for the cops but this is another vid of white boys running ape s##t wild in the usa.  minorities get profiled and police open fire on car before you can get out with ak47.

(http://downlogo.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/bope_tropa_de_elite.jpg)  

skulls dont discriminate when a body bag bonus is on the line.
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: pro nitrousADRL on July 01, 2010, 03:19:13 PM
guns dont kill people,  people kill people
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on July 01, 2010, 03:27:37 PM
RIP Officers Evans and Paudert.

New Video Released Today.




funny you didnt mention the black guy in flordia (who should have been in prison but was let out)  who killed two police officer in the other day during a traffic stop.........because of political correctness the officers are not allowed to approach black suspects defensively



i dont really dislike anyone on getbig...........but i wish death upon you, you smarmy liberal c0cksucker

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/jul/01/police-shooting-suspect-released-prison-despite-fe/news-metro/ (http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/jul/01/police-shooting-suspect-released-prison-despite-fe/news-metro/)  


By KEITH MORELLI  | The Tampa Tribune

Published: July 1, 2010



The felony worthless check warrant that two Tampa police officers were about arrest Dontae Morris on during a traffic stop Tuesday night had been issued before the convicted drug dealer was to be released from prison three months ago.

Yet, Morris, charged with gunning down the two officers, David Curtis and Jeffrey Kocab on Tuesday night, was able to walk out of prison. He remains on the loose and a massive hunt is on for him involving some 200 law enforcement officers from a wide variety of local, state and federal agencies.

As grief-stricken Tampa police officers continued their relentless search for Moore today, his release from prison nags at Police Chief Jane Castor.

She said the circumstances around his release – the outstanding warrants – are not a priority at the moment.

"I am focused on catching him," the chief said this morning. "If errors were made (in releasing Morris from prison on April 4), we will look at that after he has been captured."

Two of the bogus check warrants issued in Duval County are misdemeanors and likely would not have held up his release, law enforcement officials said.

The felony warrant might have, but it was never received by the Florida Department of Corrections, said Gretl Plessinger, spokeswoman for the department.

"We did find a warrant in this case out of Duval County," Plessinger said on Thursday afternoon. "We contacted Duval County and they notified us that they did not want to extradite or detain the inmate.

"We only can hold inmates who have been convicted and sentenced to state prison," she said. "If charges are pending, we don't hold them."

The exception is if law enforcement agencies file detainers to hold an about-to-be-released inmate, she said. And that wasn't done in Moore's case.

"We can't hold anybody past their court-ordered time," she said.

She said contact was made with the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office in Duval County in October and again during the days before Moore was released to double check about whether a detainer would be filed of if deputies would pick him up before his release on the felony charge.

"There was one misdemeanor warrant," Plessinger said. "We did not find a felony warrant."

Jacksonville deputies told corrections officials they would not file a detainer on Morris.

Jacksonville Sheriff John H. Rutherford said the misdemeanor warrants call for extradition only in Clay, St. Johns, Baker and Nassau counties.

The felony warrant has a statewide extradition order, and even though the department of corrections did not receive the felony warrant, it did go out to state law enforcement agencies to pick Moore up.

Rutherford said his office is reviewing its October 2009 communication with the department of corrections regarding Morris' release from prison.

"We are working to determine if our Records and Identification clerk missed the third worthless check warrant," he said, "which indicates a statewide extradition order."

Further complicating the matter is that the checks were said to be written to Publix in Jacksonville in April 2008, after Moore began his two year sentence in prison






of course this piece of garbage will post some anomalous event and ignore the police shooting that occur in the inner-city daily
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 01, 2010, 03:45:27 PM
guns dont kill people,  people kill people

right !
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: 240 is Back on July 01, 2010, 04:15:37 PM
sorry... that first cop who was shot... I feel terrible for it... but at the same time... how in the world do you not see an AK in the front seat - and then you TURN YOU BACK on the passenger, a teenage boy?


Seriously, I can't have a conversation with a stranger in a grocery store if another unknown is within striking range with my back to him... i can't sit with my back to the door in a restaurant... i'm too darn paranoid.

I don't see how a trained cop can turn his back to a kid holding a rifle.
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: G_Thang on July 01, 2010, 04:21:29 PM
sorry... that first cop who was shot... I feel terrible for it... but at the same time... how in the world do you not see an AK in the front seat - and then you TURN YOU BACK on the passenger, a teenage boy?


Seriously, I can't have a conversation with a stranger in a grocery store if another unknown is within striking range with my back to him... i can't sit with my back to the door in a restaurant... i'm too darn paranoid.

I don't see how a trained cop can turn his back to a kid holding a rifle.

same as a cop lets a hillbilly go back to his car and get his rifle after 20 warnings.  RACIAL PROFILING IN NORTH AMERICA.  minority shot before you can sneeze.
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on July 01, 2010, 04:23:09 PM
same as a cop lets a hillbilly go back to his car and get his rifle after 20 warnings.  RACIAL PROFILING IN NORTH AMERICA.  minority shot before you can sneeze.

and rightly so...........99.99999999 99999999999% of police shootings are perpetrated by blacks and hispanics

not even an arguable point.........
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: 240 is Back on July 01, 2010, 04:29:33 PM
same as a cop lets a hillbilly go back to his car and get his rifle after 20 warnings.  RACIAL PROFILING IN NORTH AMERICA.  minority shot before you can sneeze.

I am sure every cop profiles to some degree... some cops are more scared of big black guys, some cops are more scared of hispanics, and some surely fear the bearded white guys with camo pants.   Without a doubt, this cop was more comfortable with these 2 people than he should have been, and it's possible he might have been more 'on guard' with another race of occupants.

I'm sure their academy taught them "Seven indicators of drugs in vehicle" and "Four keys to identifying illegals"... profiling shit happens all the time... and yes, minorities do get the brunt of it.

This guy just slipped, plain and simple, god rest his soul.  He didn't check the occupant who was holding a rifle, and he turned his back to him.  Thanks to all the dash cams, we see this time and time again... cops who are just too trusting, or cops who just have an off moment at the wrong time.

I remember getting pulled over in the trailer park driving my smoking overheating POS car, maybe 8 or 9 years ago.  This cop was maybe 22, and a complete slip.  He turned his back to me to squint at my ID in his headlight after stopping me at midnight or whatever.  Then he read my permit and said "Oh you have a gun?  What kind?  We carry the glock" with both hands holding paperwork... if I was a militant camo nutjob (which yeah I might have looked like wearing camo in the trailer park at midnight), he would have been an easy target.

Cops can't be trusting, at all.  They don't have to be inpolite, trigger happy profilers as well.
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 01, 2010, 04:30:12 PM
and rightly so...........99.99999999 99999999999% of police shootings are perpetrated by blacks and hispanics

not even an arguable point.........

Where did you get your facts? the Klan website? lol
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: Shockwave on July 01, 2010, 04:36:58 PM
Where did you get your facts? the Klan website? lol
he's exaggerating slightly, yes, but not much. Seriously.
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on July 01, 2010, 08:02:28 PM
Where did you get your facts? the Klan website? lol


when is the last time you heard of a white guy killing a cop


i purposely  pay attention attention to cop killings, because it fuels my dislike of minorities.............a nd for the life of me i cant think of the last time i heard  a white person shot a cop


99% is no exaggeration
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: jtsunami on July 01, 2010, 08:24:18 PM
RIP Officers Evans and Paudert.

New Video Released Today.



they were Tea Party members going around preaching anti establishment bs and anti government propaganda.


here's the rest of the video, end of shootout is in walmart parking lot.


Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: io856 on July 01, 2010, 09:01:15 PM
guns dont kill people,  people kill people
guns make it a lot easier to kill someone

when we rage hard enough we want to kill... we are animals during this state of mind... often an absence of morality occurs... rage...

it is absolutely stupid to legalise guns... the average man can't control his animalistic urges...

look how many fuckers get gunned down in your country... wow... indicative of that which is stated above
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on July 01, 2010, 09:05:13 PM
guns make it a lot easier to kill someone

when we rage hard enough we want to kill... we are animals during this state of mind... often an absence of morality occurs... rage...

it is absolutely stupid to legalise guns... the average man can't control his animalistic urges...

ive never seen a gun kill anybody by itself


and you could just as easily kill lots of people with your car
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on July 01, 2010, 09:33:19 PM
guns make it a lot easier to kill someone

when we rage hard enough we want to kill... we are animals during this state of mind... often an absence of morality occurs... rage...

it is absolutely stupid to legalise guns... the average man can't control his animalistic urges...

look how many fuckers get gunned down in your country... wow... indicative of that which is stated above


that is a REAL slippery slope when  free individuals have to start making concession for crazy people......



how about the blacks and hispanics just learn to fucking BEHAVE....
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: pro nitrousADRL on July 01, 2010, 09:37:10 PM
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guns make it a lot easier to kill someone

when we rage hard enough we want to kill... we are animals during this state of mind... often an absence of morality occurs... rage...

it is absolutely stupid to legalise guns... the average man can't control his animalistic urges...

look how many fuckers get gunned down in your country... wow... indicative of that which is stated above

still takes people to pull the triggers,   if someone wants to kill another, the means of killing are irrelevant, that person will use a gun, knife, bat, sword, a car, chemicals fire, their hands, or whatever,   you want to ban all that stuff too???
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on July 01, 2010, 09:44:26 PM
still takes people to pull the triggers,   if someone wants to kill another, the means of killing are irrelevant, that person will use a gun, knife, bat, sword, a car, chemicals fire, their hands, or whatever,   you want to ban all that stuff too???

in addition to that, legality is not the issue........NONE of the guns being used in street/urban crime are legal and registered

they are "throw aways" , unregistered guns purchased on the black market.............so changing the gun law will not mean a thing........its a total red harring


in the city of CHICAGO, guns are completely illegal.,.........you cannot buy or own a gun in chicago..........yet, chicago  is still one of the top 3 cities in the US when it comes to violent street gun crime and murder

so the only thing the bleeding heart politicians in chicago actually accomplished..........is they made it impossible for a law abiding citizen to protect hiself or herself  from one of these crazy fuckers who is going to have a gun regardless


they will ensure you become a victim
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: pro nitrousADRL on July 01, 2010, 09:49:04 PM
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in the city of CHICAGO, guns are completely illegal.,.........you cannot buy or own a gun in chicago..........yet, chicago  is still one of the top 3 cities in the US when it comes to violent street gun crime and murder

great point,  cant despute that or come up with a logical answer as to why  without admitting that it isnt the guns fault, rather its the stupid childish people that cant act civil.  why not address that ???
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: Emmortal on July 01, 2010, 09:52:57 PM
sorry... that first cop who was shot... I feel terrible for it... but at the same time... how in the world do you not see an AK in the front seat - and then you TURN YOU BACK on the passenger, a teenage boy?


Seriously, I can't have a conversation with a stranger in a grocery store if another unknown is within striking range with my back to him... i can't sit with my back to the door in a restaurant... i'm too darn paranoid.

I don't see how a trained cop can turn his back to a kid holding a rifle.

What makes you think the kid was holding it or it was in the front seat when they were pulled over?  It could have easily been concealed behind the seat when he was at the window.
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: io856 on July 01, 2010, 10:59:39 PM
in addition to that, legality is not the issue........NONE of the guns being used in street/urban crime are legal and registered

they are "throw aways" , unregistered guns purchased on the black market.............so changing the gun law will not mean a thing........its a total red harring


in the city of CHICAGO, guns are completely illegal.,.........you cannot buy or own a gun in chicago..........yet, chicago  is still one of the top 3 cities in the US when it comes to violent street gun crime and murder

so the only thing the bleeding heart politicians in chicago actually accomplished..........is they made it impossible for a law abiding citizen to protect hiself or herself  from one of these crazy fuckers who is going to have a gun regardless


they will ensure you become a victim
the legalisation of guns allows the widespread flow of firearms in your country...


killing somebody with a gun is FAR easier and FAR more lethal than ANY other form of killing...

"that person will use a gun, knife, bat, sword, a car, chemicals fire, their hands, or whatever, "

BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT!

GUNS KILL EASILY YOU KNOW THAT

knives and swords take far more BALLS and SKILL

HANDS? once again SAME FUCKING PRINCIPLE
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: pro nitrousADRL on July 01, 2010, 11:12:53 PM
do you think the criminals get their guns the proper way that laws call for,    america could ban guns all together and they would still be here, the only difference is it would be the criminals only that had them, and the gun crimes would continue!  killing is easy if your not an idiot no matter what means you use!!! 
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: io856 on July 01, 2010, 11:15:26 PM
do you think the criminals get their guns the proper way that laws call for,    america could ban guns all together and they would still be here, the only difference is it would be the criminals only that had them and the gun crimes would continue!  killing is easy if your not an idiot no matter what means you use!!!
oh my god

it takes a certain fitness, tenacity and strength of will to actually get to the point of striking a knife into someone's chest... also the other person is able to attempt to defend themselves...

multiple gunshots from mid range requires only the ability to aim and shoot... not to mention the ease at which several lives can be lost...
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: pro nitrousADRL on July 01, 2010, 11:18:36 PM
knife to the chest is by far the only way to kill a person with a knife,  and there are tons of other things that can be used to kill, if a human wants another human dead and will do anything to make it happen their weapon is irrelevant.


i could run you over with my car and you could die   you want to ban cars?  
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: pro nitrousADRL on July 01, 2010, 11:21:23 PM
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it takes a certain fitness, tenacity and strength of will to actually get to the point of striking a knife into someone's chest... also the other person is able to attempt to defend themselves...

it takes the same aiming to hit someone with a kill shot from a gun too,  just cause they get a bullet doesnt mean certain death,  and its way easier to slit the juggular then to stab!  so we going to ban knives too?
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 01, 2010, 11:23:05 PM
guns make it a lot easier to kill someone

when we rage hard enough we want to kill... we are animals during this state of mind... often an absence of morality occurs... rage...

it is absolutely stupid to legalise guns... the average man can't control his animalistic urges...

look how many fuckers get gunned down in your country... wow... indicative of that which is stated above

If someone breaks into my house in the middle of the night and is standing over my son or wife....I WILL shoot first and ask questions later.
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: pro nitrousADRL on July 01, 2010, 11:24:57 PM
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If someone breaks into my house in the middle of the night and is standing over my son or wife....I WILL shoot first and ask questions later.

better make sure they arent black or it will be a hate crime
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: io856 on July 01, 2010, 11:25:47 PM
it takes the same aiming to hit someone with a kill shot from a gun too,  just cause they get a bullet doesnt mean certain death,  and its way easier to slit the juggular then to stab!  so we going to ban knives too?
thats why I said MULTIPLE shots

shouldn't be legal to carry a knife anyway... whats the use?
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: io856 on July 01, 2010, 11:27:15 PM
If someone breaks into my house in the middle of the night and is standing over my son or wife....I WILL shoot first and ask questions later.
exactly my point

we've all been there

and most of us can't be trusted with a gun at those points in time...
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: pro nitrousADRL on July 01, 2010, 11:28:15 PM
you can stap or slice someone multiple times very fast too!!!  weapons arent the problem,  its fucked up people.
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: io856 on July 01, 2010, 11:30:43 PM
you can stap or slice someone multiple times very fast too!!!  weapons arent the problem,  its fucked up people.
::)

fucked up people shouldn't have access to any weapons

why should any person other than law enforcement have access to weapons?

and I think we all know that its rarity for ANY person to display restraint in those times of cold fury
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on July 02, 2010, 03:35:39 AM
the legalisation of guns allows the widespread flow of firearms in your country...




yes cause blanket illegality of drugs like heroin and cocaine has done such a good job of keeping them out of the country............when i was hooked on heroin it was easier for me to buy it then it was for me to buy cigarettes or liquor


and just like it is illegal for people to cross our borders adn live in our country without being documented citizens.............oh wait, thats not a problem either...............ten s of millions of illegal immigrants have flooded america's borders in the past decade




so millions of people and billions of tons of illegal narcotics could get in easily..............but handguns will not :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: 240 is Back on July 02, 2010, 05:01:11 AM
What makes you think the kid was holding it or it was in the front seat when they were pulled over?  It could have easily been concealed behind the seat when he was at the window.

in that case, he turned back to passenger to do anything but sit facing fwd.
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on July 02, 2010, 05:29:19 AM
guns make it a lot easier to kill someone

when we rage hard enough we want to kill... we are animals during this state of mind... often an absence of morality occurs... rage...

it is absolutely stupid to legalise guns... the average man can't control his animalistic urges...

look how many fuckers get gunned down in your country... wow... indicative of that which is stated above

The reason the United States remains one of the last bastions of freedom is because of our second amendment rights.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on July 02, 2010, 05:31:49 AM
why should any person other than law enforcement have access to weapons?

Are you kidding?  ???
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on July 02, 2010, 05:33:22 AM
Are you kidding?  ???


there are some real fucking morons on here arent there ;D ;D

some of the things they say just make my jaw drop,
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on July 02, 2010, 05:41:31 AM

there are some real fucking morons on here arent there ;D ;D

some of the things they say just make my jaw drop,

haha...

Every time someone is killed by a gun (which is bound to happen occasionally in a country with 309,000,000 people) anti gun lunatics come out of the wood work with their knee jerk decision to ban weapons.

You've actually only got a 0.01697313915857605 chance of being a victim of gun violence in the United States, I'm not concerned...  ;D

Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on July 02, 2010, 05:47:24 AM
haha...

Every time someone is killed by a gun (which is bound to happen occasionally in a country with 309,000,000 people) anti gun lunatics come out of the wood work with their knee jerk decision to ban weapons.

You've actually only got a 0.01697313915857605 chance of being a victim of gun violence in the United States, I'm not concerned...  ;D



again, even though it is almost always an illegal unregistered handgun responsible for the incident


so what effect banning legal-law abiding gun ownership will have on guns being purchased on the black market..............in still trying to understand :-\ :-\


Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on July 02, 2010, 05:53:48 AM
again, even though it is almost always an illegal unregistered handgun responsible for the incident


so what effect banning legal-law abiding gun ownership will have on guns being purchased on the black market..............in still trying to understand :-\ :-\

That's the biggest question right there. 
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: delta9mda on July 02, 2010, 06:03:00 AM
guns make it a lot easier to kill someone

when we rage hard enough we want to kill... we are animals during this state of mind... often an absence of morality occurs... rage...

it is absolutely stupid to legalise guns... the average man can't control his animalistic urges...

look how many fuckers get gunned down in your country... wow... indicative of that which is stated above
wrong, 80 million gun owners did not kill someone today.
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: tonymctones on July 02, 2010, 06:58:22 AM
I use a dog-cat-rat for protection. Nobody messes with me.

(http://www.loupiote.com/photos_m/3355275151-dog-cat-rat-pets.jpg)
LMAO that would scare the shit out of me I wouldnt know which one to concentrate on. I would simply apologize for upsetting you and hope that you would have mercy on me.

and io856 you like most on this board love to hate on the US and know nothing about the situation that youre talking about...

how would making guns illegal limit the violence? others have shown that even when illegal they can still be a problem, others have shown that they are a necessary evil, and others have shown that that evil is extremely exaggerated by ppl with agendas and parotted by ignorant ppl such as yourself...
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: bears on July 02, 2010, 07:44:30 AM
GUNS ARE HERE.  we can't go back and change that.  taking guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens is certainly not the answer.  frankly there is no answer.  its a shame.  just like nuclear weapons are here.  Do you think it would be a good idea for the U.S. to disarm?  Maybe the U.S. could set a good example for Iran and they would follow suit.  Maybe Iran and North Korea would see the error of their ways and disarm as well.  That would probably be the libs solution.  Then we'd all die.  Thanks God for conservatives.
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: jtsunami on July 02, 2010, 10:18:11 AM
If someone breaks into my house in the middle of the night and is standing over my son or wife....I WILL shoot first and ask questions later.

I hope you would go to jail, if they are standing there not threatening them with their life, then your option is to flee to safety not hurt the intruder, maybe get your wife and kids first, if you hurt the intruder if he isn't threatening you, you are the criminal and will go to jail.

Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: jtsunami on July 02, 2010, 11:20:56 AM
well, for one, the constitution gives us that RIGHT.  2nd, what if the government were to turn on the people, and the people have no means of fighting?  it is for protection against enemies abroad (foreign gov.) and domestic (our gov.)

you really think having a gun or even ar 15 or fully automatic weapon will protect you from the government if they decide they want your guns or take over some other stuff?  You will be fighting against tanks and fighters jets bro, you will die.

Also if a foreign country does invade, they will leave civilians alone, and if you attack them as a civilian they will make sure to murder your ass with a 50 cal machine gun, get over this I need a gun to protect myself from gov't crap, if gov't wanted they will take your guns, you can't stop them, or you'll end up dead.



Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: cross-of-iron on July 02, 2010, 11:26:14 AM
I hope you would go to jail, if they are standing there not threatening them with their life, then your option is to flee to safety not hurt the intruder, maybe get your wife and kids first, if you hurt the intruder if he isn't threatening you, you are the criminal and will go to jail.



You should apply that same philosophy to US forces occupying Iraq.  ;)
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: 240 is Back on July 02, 2010, 11:43:42 AM
exactly my point

we've all been there

and most of us can't be trusted with a gun at those points in time...

I've been in fistfights/shoving matches before, never pulled mine in those situations.  Random shit does pop off, particularly when you're 21/22 that doesn't happen at 30.  Just showing the gun without legal reason is ONE YEAR in prison.  Pointing it at someone, the sentence climbs rapidly. 

Most people with gun permits - you never know they're carrying.  Sure, you get the grizzled guy with camo pants and an H&K shirt, guns are all he has and he's just dying for a conversation.  But most people with permits, you never know they're armed. 
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2010, 12:20:16 PM
guns make it a lot easier to kill someone

when we rage hard enough we want to kill... we are animals during this state of mind... often an absence of morality occurs... rage...

it is absolutely stupid to legalise guns... the average man can't control his animalistic urges...

look how many fuckers get gunned down in your country... wow... indicative of that which is stated above

Yes we should ban guns like in the U.K. follow their example and now they have a rash of stabbings , what's next banning knifes?

the old adage applies if you ban guns than only criminals will have them.
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: Nails on July 02, 2010, 12:22:32 PM
 


Of all the weapons in the vast soviet arsenal, nothing was more profitable than Avtomat Kalashnikova model of 1947. More commonly known as the AK-47, or Kalashnikov. It's the world's most popular assault rifle. A weapon all fighters love. An elegantly simple 9 pound amalgamation of forged steel and plywood. It doesn't break, jam, or overheat. It'll shoot whether it's covered in mud or filled with sand. It's so easy, even a child can use it; and they do. The Soviets put the gun on a coin. Mozambique put it on their flag. Since the end of the Cold War, the Kalashnikov has become the Russian people's greatest export. After that comes vodka, caviar, and suicidal novelists.
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2010, 12:31:33 PM
::)

fucked up people shouldn't have access to any weapons

why should any person other than law enforcement have access to weapons?

and I think we all know that its rarity for ANY person to display restraint in those times of cold fury


Why should any person other than law enforcement have access to weapons? you're really asking this question? let's see for personal protection of family & property , for tyranical Governments , most dictators start by banning firearms to the common man , it's what Hitler did it's what they all do.

A crazed man enters your home in the with the means and motivation to carry out harm to your family you call 911 I'll be just a tad more proactive

I agree that mentally unstable people shouldn't have access to firearms though
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2010, 12:37:23 PM
I've been in fistfights/shoving matches before, never pulled mine in those situations.  Random shit does pop off, particularly when you're 21/22 that doesn't happen at 30.  Just showing the gun without legal reason is ONE YEAR in prison.  Pointing it at someone, the sentence climbs rapidly. 

Most people with gun permits - you never know they're carrying.  Sure, you get the grizzled guy with camo pants and an H&K shirt, guns are all he has and he's just dying for a conversation.  But most people with permits, you never know they're armed. 

great point , people are clueless on how many people are carry right besides them everywhere they go. it defeats the purpose to let everyone know.
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 02, 2010, 12:44:18 PM
::)

fucked up people shouldn't have access to any weapons

why should any person other than law enforcement have access to weapons?

and I think we all know that its rarity for ANY person to display restraint in those times of cold fury


I could kill a regular Joe with a screw driver just as fast as a 6 inch blade and it will hurt a hell of a lot more. How are you gonna keep screwdrivers out of people's hands.
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: tonymctones on July 02, 2010, 02:27:01 PM
you really think having a gun or even ar 15 or fully automatic weapon will protect you from the government if they decide they want your guns or take over some other stuff?  You will be fighting against tanks and fighters jets bro, you will die.

Also if a foreign country does invade, they will leave civilians alone, and if you attack them as a civilian they will make sure to murder your ass with a 50 cal machine gun, get over this I need a gun to protect myself from gov't crap, if gov't wanted they will take your guns, you can't stop them, or you'll end up dead.
so the answer is to just bow down and let them have their way with you?  ::) ::) ::)

LOL yea no invading force has ever targeted civilians...you dumb ass...

guns are just for protection from the govt, they are for personal protection from others who would harm you, they are hunting, they are for recreation...
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: Earl1972 on July 02, 2010, 02:29:04 PM

when is the last time you heard of a white guy killing a cop




a white supremacist killed 3 in pittsburgh last year

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Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2010, 03:34:30 PM
so the answer is to just bow down and let them have their way with you?  ::) ::) ::)

LOL yea no invading force has ever targeted civilians...you dumb ass...

guns are just for protection from the govt, they are for personal protection from others who would harm you, they are hunting, they are for recreation...

smart man !! dead-on

Guns are like abortions , you don't want one , don't get one but don't make the mistake of telling me I can't get one.
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: LATS on July 02, 2010, 03:50:30 PM
SUNAMI.. once again you say silly things like they were tea party members.. you said this about the new york bombing.. you have said it before that also.. but it is never true.. no where does it state that these were tea party members.. where did you get that info? please get facts straight before jumping to conclusions.. your blind ideology makes you do and say silly statements..  being anti government is not being a tea party member.. these guys were on a whole different level..  i am not a "tea party" member but, i am smart enough to know the difference between a white extremist and the tea party..    
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on July 02, 2010, 04:17:00 PM


Of all the weapons in the vast soviet arsenal, nothing was more profitable than Avtomat Kalashnikova model of 1947. More commonly known as the AK-47, or Kalashnikov. It's the world's most popular assault rifle. A weapon all fighters love. An elegantly simple 9 pound amalgamation of forged steel and plywood. It doesn't break, jam, or overheat. It'll shoot whether it's covered in mud or filled with sand. It's so easy, even a child can use it; and they do. The Soviets put the gun on a coin. Mozambique put it on their flag. Since the end of the Cold War, the Kalashnikov has become the Russian people's greatest export. After that comes vodka, caviar, and suicidal novelists.

here in texas you can easily buy one, for less than 500 bucks LOL
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2010, 05:44:41 PM
SUNAMI.. once again you say silly things like they were tea party members.. you said this about the new york bombing.. you have said it before that also.. but it is never true.. no where does it state that these were tea party members.. where did you get that info? please get facts straight before jumping to conclusions.. your blind ideology makes you do and say silly statements..  being anti government is not being a tea party member.. these guys were on a whole different level..  i am not a "tea party" member but, i am smart enough to know the difference between a white extremist and the tea party..    

he makes shit up that's where he gets his info. and great post BTW
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: io856 on July 02, 2010, 06:01:36 PM
if someone breaks into your house and is threatening your family, it is not wrong to shoot htem down.  so dont say "we've all been there", b/c u obviously havent.  We CAN be trusted with a gun at those points in time, and the trust is that we WILL USE IT.  theres nothing wrong with using it either.  It's not a "rage", its called protection of your family.  let me know how things go when an armed burglar breaks in and you dont have a weapon and he rapes and kills your wife and kids in front of you.  let me know if you would have liked to have a gun then.
Wheres your all forgiving God in that case?


Fight fire with fire?

Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: io856 on July 02, 2010, 06:38:01 PM

yes cause blanket illegality of drugs like heroin and cocaine has done such a good job of keeping them out of the country............when i was hooked on heroin it was easier for me to buy it then it was for me to buy cigarettes or liquor


and just like it is illegal for people to cross our borders adn live in our country without being documented citizens.............oh wait, thats not a problem either...............ten s of millions of illegal immigrants have flooded america's borders in the past decade




so millions of people and billions of tons of illegal narcotics could get in easily..............but handguns will not :-\ :-\
Where there is a will there is way. How do bodybuilders access PEDs even with the illegality of such?

Of course people will still have handguns through illegitimate means just like anything else. However to acquire a handgun in countries with highly restricted access to firearms it can cost upwards of $10 000 through the black market. A price like that obviously limits access... Just like the price of cocaine...

Also you have to take into account the culture surrounding freedom of access to handguns. I can assure you in countries with a high level of restricted access to firearms there is an absence of a "handgun mentality". The means of violence are predominately non lethal close contact melee attacks. Although the widespread exposure of the firearm culture through the distribution of mass marketed American film does have an effect.
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: kh300 on July 02, 2010, 06:50:50 PM
The cop probably has done thousands of traffic stops without one person even lifting a finger at him.

thats why he wasnt ready
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2010, 06:57:00 PM
Where there is a will there is way. How do bodybuilders access PEDs even with the illegality of such?

Of course people will still have handguns through illegitimate means just like anything else. However to acquire a handgun in countries with highly restricted access to firearms it can cost upwards of $10 000 through the black market. A price like that obviously limits access... Just like the price of cocaine...

Also you have to take into account the culture surrounding freedom of access to handguns. I can assure you in countries with a high level of restricted access to firearms there is an absence of a "handgun mentality". The means of violence are predominately non lethal close contact melee attacks. Although the widespread exposure of the firearm culture through the distribution of mass marketed American film does have an effect.


Most cities in the U.S that have outright bans on handguns are crime central meccas , guns are not cost prohibitive because they just go to other states to get them

it's a proven fact that banning guns will not cause a decline in murders & suicides and here's the link to the Harvard study

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

in a Utopian Society we would all have no need for firearms but we're not so firearms are a necessity to combat those who would wish to due us harm , if you don't want one don't get one but attempting to restrict others is wrong and immoral
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: io856 on July 02, 2010, 07:14:29 PM
Most cities in the U.S that have outright bans on handguns are crime central meccas , guns are not cost prohibitive because they just go to other states to get them

it's a proven fact that banning guns will not cause a decline in murders & suicides and here's the link to the Harvard study

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

in a Utopian Society we would all have no need for firearms but we're not so firearms are a necessity to combat those who would wish to due us harm , if you don't want one don't get one but attempting to restrict others is wrong and immoral
::)
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2010, 07:20:11 PM
::)


That's your response? I see , you're one of those people who can't be swayed by facts and already made up your mind , hey more power to you. good luck
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: Cardfan on July 02, 2010, 07:21:12 PM
::)

::)
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: clued-up on July 02, 2010, 07:21:17 PM
Wheres your all forgiving God in that case?


Fight fire with fire?

What does god have to do with protecting your family? Or are you being silly?
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: Shockwave on July 02, 2010, 07:30:31 PM
Clearly he has no argument, he just "knows" his opinion is right because it's what his country does, and nothing is gonna change his opinion. Look, most people just make up there mind off passion and whatever they know, and they'll argue vehemtley to support there claim. The dumbest people talk the loudest. :-*
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: clued-up on July 02, 2010, 07:31:24 PM
it is absolutely stupid to legalise guns... the average man can't control his animalistic urges...

Are you black?
Title: Re: Republican Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on July 02, 2010, 09:16:01 PM
honestly, im definitely left-leaning politically but all this gun banning nonsense is pretty fucking stupid. the 'bad guys' dont adhere to the laws whatever they may be, so all these bans do is prevent good people from having them. the bad guys will have guns regardless of what the laws are, all these laws do is assure the bad guys that whoever they are robbing/assaulting wont be able to defend themselves LMAO
Title: Re: Republican Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: Shockwave on July 02, 2010, 09:22:25 PM
honestly, im definitely left-leaning politically but all this gun banning nonsense is pretty fucking stupid. the 'bad guys' dont adhere to the laws whatever they may be, so all these bans do is prevent good people from having them. the bad guys will have guns regardless of what the laws are, all these laws do is assure the bad guys that whoever they are robbing/assaulting wont be able to defend themselves LMAO
Never thought Id agree with you on anything, but good statement.
Criminals break laws.
Upstanding citizens dont (for the most part)
What makes people think criminals are going to suddenly start abiding by the laws? ???
Yup, theyre gonna just suddenly start obeying laws.  ::)
Lol. Most of the guns used in these type killings are illegal black market weapons anyway, so the very idea is just stupid.
But Gun control people are just nuts, they simply go off there passion and thats it.
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on July 03, 2010, 05:14:12 AM
well, for one, the constitution gives us that RIGHT.  2nd, what if the government were to turn on the people, and the people have no means of fighting?  it is for protection against enemies abroad (foreign gov.) and domestic (our gov.)

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!! (a concept non Americans can't comprehend)
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on July 03, 2010, 05:15:32 AM
you really think having a gun or even ar 15 or fully automatic weapon will protect you from the government if they decide they want your guns or take over some other stuff?  You will be fighting against tanks and fighters jets bro, you will die.

Also if a foreign country does invade, they will leave civilians alone, and if you attack them as a civilian they will make sure to murder your ass with a 50 cal machine gun, get over this I need a gun to protect myself from gov't crap, if gov't wanted they will take your guns, you can't stop them, or you'll end up dead.

The Iraqis have held our government at bay with their small arms, we could do the same need be.
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on July 03, 2010, 05:21:43 AM
Why should any person other than law enforcement have access to weapons? you're really asking this question? let's see for personal protection of family & property , for tyranical Governments , most dictators start by banning firearms to the common man , it's what Hitler did it's what they all do.

YES!

The second amendment is an essential part of our constitution, it keeps us free.
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: hmontaq on July 04, 2010, 02:24:58 AM

funny you didnt mention the black guy in flordia (who should have been in prison but was let out)  who killed two police officer in the other day during a traffic stop.........because of political correctness the officers are not allowed to approach black suspects defensively

Black obsession meltdown
Title: Re: Conservative Gun Nuts Kill 2 Police Officers
Post by: Dballn247 on July 04, 2010, 04:07:30 AM
guns dont kill people,  people kill people

This