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Title: Concorde airplane
Post by: BayGBM on July 02, 2010, 07:20:41 AM
Why did they forever ground the Concorde fleet of airplanes?  I remember one plane had an accident in 2003 and after that the entire fleet was retired forever.  They don’t do this with other plane models so why did they do it with Concorde?  Was the fleet just too old?  I seem to recall they debuted in the mid 1970s.

Anyone know?  Anyone here ever flown the Concorde?  Could a huge BB fit in this tiny cabin (bodybuilding related)?
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: Playboy on July 02, 2010, 07:21:37 AM
They have Stealth Fighter planes now. No need for the Concorde.
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Post by: Fallsview on July 02, 2010, 07:24:17 AM
Flew on it once, what I remember is how uncomfortable the seats were.  Reminded me of corvette seats.
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: spinnis on July 02, 2010, 07:28:34 AM
If I remember correctly there were a Multiple of incidents all due to the model etc
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Post by: Playboy on July 02, 2010, 07:29:43 AM
Flew on it once, what I remember is how uncomfortable the seats were.  Reminded me of corvette seats.
Lol...you figure for a multimillion dollar plane at the time, the least they could have done was make the seats comfortable in the cockpit.
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 02, 2010, 07:40:43 AM
From what I remember they were grounded because 1) they were too old and 2) they were too expensive to fly ( I forget what, might have been the use of fuel or something)
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: dr.chimps on July 02, 2010, 07:43:28 AM
Why did they forever ground the Concorde fleet of airplanes?  I remember one plane had an accident in 2003 and after that the entire fleet was retired forever.  They don’t do this with other plane models so why did they do it with Concorde?  Was the fleet just too old?  I seem to recall they debuted in the mid 1970s.

Anyone know?  Anyone here ever flown the Concorde?  Could a huge BB fit in this tiny cabin (bodybuilding related)?

Concorde and 747 both came out in the late '60's. '68 or '69. I do remember that Phil Collins, that filthy attention whore, used it to play in both the London and the Philadelphia Live Aid events. All the Phil; half the fun.   ;D
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: BayGBM on July 02, 2010, 07:47:40 AM
Lol...you figure for a multimillion dollar plane at the time, the least they could have done was make the seats comfortable in the cockpit.

The cockpit is where the pilot(s) sit; I suspect those seats were very comfy.  The fuselage looks tiny compared to many other planes of the time. :-\
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: Playboy on July 02, 2010, 07:49:51 AM
From what I remember they were grounded because 1) they were too old and 2) they were too expensive to fly ( I forget what, might have been the use of fuel or something)

I remember seeing the Concorde fly by at the Canadian air show at the CNE years ago as a kid. That plane was LOUD.
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: RJ DRIVER on July 02, 2010, 08:51:36 AM
It was too expensive to operate. Something that flys that fast is a total gas hog.
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: noworries on July 02, 2010, 10:02:01 AM
I remember the first time it landed at LAX.  My dad got us onto the runway with the all the media and press.  We were standing on the grass as close as we could get.  They said it was going to be really loud but I don't remember it being loud.  I was in maybe 8th grade or around there.  Never got to go on it though.  Oh and it quit operations mostly because of 9-11.  People just weren't flying that much and they didn't have alot of planes
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Post by: Mr Nobody on July 02, 2010, 10:07:07 AM
Just a piece of shit is all it was BAY.
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: Playboy on July 02, 2010, 10:15:18 AM
It was too expensive to operate. Something that flys that fast is a total gas hog.
Can you imagine how much $$$ it would cost to fill that sucker up?
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Post by: jtsunami on July 02, 2010, 10:29:45 AM
Why did they forever ground the Concorde fleet of airplanes?  I remember one plane had an accident in 2003 and after that the entire fleet was retired forever.  They don’t do this with other plane models so why did they do it with Concorde?  Was the fleet just too old?  I seem to recall they debuted in the mid 1970s.

Anyone know?  Anyone here ever flown the Concorde?  Could a huge BB fit in this tiny cabin (bodybuilding related)?


what is that fire coming out the back of it?
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: BayGBM on July 02, 2010, 11:25:29 AM
It was too expensive to operate. Something that flys that fast is a total gas hog.

According to whom?  The tickets were not cheap so I hardly think the cost of fuel was the issue.

I'm not sure how long commercial jets are kept in service but according to Wiki the Concorde was in service from 1976-2003.  That's pushing 30 years.  Is that typical for other jets?
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: BayGBM on July 02, 2010, 11:27:13 AM
what is that fire coming out the back of it?

Yes, I believe that pic was from its fatal final flight.  After that accident all the Concorde's were taken out of service. :'(
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Post by: jtsunami on July 02, 2010, 11:29:21 AM
Yes, I believe that pic was from its fatal final flight.  After that accident all the Concorde's were taken out of service. :'(

oh lol, I thought that is how it always took off with rocket boosters or something
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: RJ DRIVER on July 02, 2010, 11:46:26 AM
According to whom?  The tickets were not cheap so I hardly think the cost of fuel was the issue.

I'm not sure how long commercial jets are kept in service but according to Wiki the Concorde was in service from 1976-2003.  That's pushing 30 years.  Is that typical for other jets?

I'm not sure about fuel burn compared to ticket price, But i can only imagine how much fuel it ate up. I fly the crj200 and its small engines burn about 3,500 lbs an hour at a cruise speed of .74 mach.  The Concorde cruised at 2.0 mach!
Yeah its pretty typical for aircraft to stay in service for looong periods of time. Delta still flys alot of dc9's.  They came online in the late 60's and most of deltas are from the early 70's.
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: BayGBM on July 02, 2010, 11:58:40 AM
I'm not sure about fuel burn compared to ticket price, But i can only imagine how much fuel it ate up. I fly the crj200 and its small engines burn about 3,500 lbs an hour at a cruise speed of .74 mach.  The Concorde cruised at 2.0 mach!
Yeah its pretty typical for aircraft to stay in service for looong periods of time. Delta still flys alot of dc9's.  They came online in the late 60's and most of deltas are from the early 70's.

Are there (m)any AOPA pilots here?  I used to fly a Mooney.  If you can afford a plan you can afford the fuel.  The Concordes were certainly not taken out of service due to fuel costs.  I seem to recall that the cheapest Concord tickets were in the $4000 range and frequently went much higher. :o
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: Army of One on July 02, 2010, 11:59:05 AM
what is that fire coming out the back of it?

Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 02, 2010, 01:05:23 PM
Could it of been a terroist attack?
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Post by: nufc0101 on July 02, 2010, 01:14:28 PM
hi peeps. I remember seeing concorde land many years ago, louder than hell. think there's only one frame still (nearly) airworthy but there's more chance of ronnie winning another four mr olympia's than that flying.
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2010, 01:22:06 PM
Why did they forever ground the Concorde fleet of airplanes?  I remember one plane had an accident in 2003 and after that the entire fleet was retired forever.  They don’t do this with other plane models so why did they do it with Concorde?  Was the fleet just too old?  I seem to recall they debuted in the mid 1970s.

Anyone know?  Anyone here ever flown the Concorde?  Could a huge BB fit in this tiny cabin (bodybuilding related)?


Are you kidding plenty of GetBig millionaires could afford the ticket on a Concorde

Amazing machine all the way.
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 02, 2010, 04:07:09 PM
Sigh, the Concorde was primarily booked only by the wealthy and affluent so there was no problem with it.   being too expensive to fly.  In fact it was very profitable because of that

Its just that sales plummetted to practically nothing after that Concorde crashed.  Along with less expensive private jets, it was pretty much it for SST travel

Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: TacoBell on July 02, 2010, 05:59:42 PM
They didn't ground them, I just bought them all...
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: alejandro_torres on July 03, 2010, 12:22:09 AM
there is one concord right outside the airport in paris, pretty cool airplane to see  :)
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Post by: Eyeball Chambers on July 03, 2010, 05:26:59 AM
I remember the first time it landed at LAX.  My dad got us onto the runway with the all the media and press.  We were standing on the grass as close as we could get.  They said it was going to be really loud but I don't remember it being loud.  I was in maybe 8th grade or around there.  Never got to go on it though.  Oh and it quit operations mostly because of 9-11.  People just weren't flying that much and they didn't have alot of planes

You've got a story for everything!  :o
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: Tapeworm on July 03, 2010, 08:12:23 AM
You've got a story for everything!  :o

I'm pretty sure my mom had sex with Alan Alda and I bet he was on a concorde at some point.
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on July 03, 2010, 08:31:07 AM
I'm pretty sure my mom had sex with Alan Alda and I bet he was on a concorde at some point.

haha... That is fucking legendary...
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 03, 2010, 08:33:12 AM
haha... That is fucking legendary...
I jacked off in the bathroom of a 747 once closest thing to sex on a plane.
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on July 03, 2010, 08:35:37 AM
I jacked off in the bathroom of a 747 once closest thing to sex on a plane.

I took a piss in the bathroom of a 737 once closest thing to jacking off on a plane.
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: Tapeworm on July 03, 2010, 08:40:35 AM
I took a piss in the bathroom of a 737 once closest thing to jacking off on a plane.

Flushing those toilets is a thrill.  Trickle... trickle...... FOOOOSH!
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 03, 2010, 08:42:17 AM
Flushing those toilets is a thrill.  Trickle... trickle...... FOOOOSH!
I never shit in one what is that like?
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: Tapeworm on July 03, 2010, 08:45:21 AM
I never shit in one what is that like?

Ne neither.  If they had TurdCam so you could see it getting shot out of the plane I'd do it for sure.
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 03, 2010, 08:54:25 AM
Ne neither.  If they had TurdCam so you could see it getting shot out of the plane I'd do it for sure.
;D
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: BIG ACH on July 03, 2010, 05:41:42 PM

My dad travels a lot for work, he flew on the Concorde once, says it was it was a really cool experience, very fast, first class service on the entire plane, nice lounge to wait in for it, says seats were extremely tight (but he's overweight). 


Wish I could've tried it once!
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: jwb on July 03, 2010, 07:03:39 PM
the reason the tyre blew was because another plane left some debris on the runway.

from wiki,

On 10 April 2003, Air France and British Airways simultaneously announced that they would retire Concorde later that year. They cited low passenger numbers following the 25 July 2000 crash, the slump in air travel following the 11 September attacks and rising maintenance costs. Although Concorde was a technological marvel when introduced into service in the 1970s, 30 years later its cockpit, cluttered with analogue controls and dials, looked dated, as there had been little commercial pressure or reason to upgrade Concorde due to a lack of competing aircraft, unlike other airliners of the same vintage, for example the Boeing 747. By its retirement, it was the last aircraft in British Airways' fleet that still had a flight engineer; other aircraft, such as the modernised 747-400, had eliminated that role.
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: bigdumbbell on July 03, 2010, 07:56:23 PM
yes twice actually...thrilling, excellent service and nice gifts for every passenger.
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: jtsunami on July 03, 2010, 08:57:19 PM
yes twice actually...thrilling, excellent service and nice gifts for every passenger.

WOW you are very high flying
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: bigdumbbell on July 03, 2010, 08:59:45 PM
WOW you are very high flying
nah  that was a long time ago...since 9 11 i dont travel much
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on July 04, 2010, 12:40:35 AM
It had a bad fuel economy, was extremely loud, couldn't land on most runways.
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 04, 2010, 05:53:41 PM
According to whom?  The tickets were not cheap so I hardly think the cost of fuel was the issue.

I'm not sure how long commercial jets are kept in service but according to Wiki the Concorde was in service from 1976-2003.  That's pushing 30 years.  Is that typical for other jets?


Pretty standard age for airplanes, the 747's are older and still flying strong.. it was first flown commercially in 1970, the interior has been updated and reupholstered but it's still the same plane flying today.
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on July 04, 2010, 08:28:37 PM
According to whom?  The tickets were not cheap so I hardly think the cost of fuel was the issue.

I'm not sure how long commercial jets are kept in service but according to Wiki the Concorde was in service from 1976-2003.  That's pushing 30 years.  Is that typical for other jets?


No, he is exactly correct

as the airline industry changed in the 2000s, adn companies began to cripple, downsize, and belt-tighten........ the Concorde became an un-pragmatic, over-expensive, dinosaur , plus by the time it was retired in 2003........it was almost 30 years old


its not that it didnt perform correctly, or that there was a problem with it,,,,,,,,,the industry just changed


just like the sr-71 spy plane.........there was no problem with it,........it was a marvel of modern achievement........but with improved satellite technology, and the cold war ending..........it just became an overly-expensive albatross  
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: jwb on July 04, 2010, 08:42:12 PM
Pretty standard age for airplanes, the 747's are older and still flying strong.. it was first flown commercially in 1970, the interior has been updated and reupholstered but it's still the same plane flying today.

most of the 747-200's you are thinking of are in service in africa now or have been scrapped.
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 04, 2010, 09:09:18 PM
most of the 747-200's you are thinking of are in service in africa now or have been scrapped.

Either way the plane originally created as the 747 is still flying around the world, many of them are.. planes like hotels and motels are upgraded cosmetically every number of years as things like seats are worn out or fashion changes.
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: jwb on July 04, 2010, 09:27:10 PM
Either way the plane originally created as the 747 is still flying around the world, many of them are.. planes like hotels and motels are upgraded cosmetically every number of years as things like seats are worn out or fashion changes.

I agree most planes go through several refits throughout their lives and go through several owners too... people would be amazed how many used parts are used on planes.
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: _bruce_ on July 05, 2010, 08:08:14 AM
Tickets were horrendously priced - 8000 to 11000 €.
All upper class, although many celebs got their ticket for free e.g. Keith, Madonna, Gates, etc.
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 05, 2010, 08:11:35 AM
Tickets were horrendously priced - 8000 to 11000 €.
All upper class, although many celebs got their ticket for free e.g. Keith, Madonna, Gates, etc.


What do you expect ?!!? it had a top speed of something like mach 1.5

civilian airplanes don't fly that fast, speed comes with a price.
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Post by: noworries on July 05, 2010, 08:58:52 AM
You've got a story for everything!  :o

Not really.  Just a few here and there.  I am 51 years old and grew up in a place and time where I got to do alot.  I was lucky to have a couple parents who had their shit together and wanted to make sure we got to experience as much as possible.  I have forgotten way more than I can remember, so that's why I get excited when I can remember something.
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: Disgusted on July 05, 2010, 10:38:51 AM
Back in 1997 my Uncle who flew on the Concord a lot invited me to go along with him on the Concode to London. If I remember correctly it took off in NY and took 3 hours to reach London. So if you left at 1pm you would reach London at 9pm, but on the way back you would actually get home 2 hours before you let, weird. BTW, I declined to go, no way I was getting on that thing.
Title: Re: Concorde airplane
Post by: sync pulse on July 05, 2010, 02:03:39 PM
Why did they forever ground the Concorde fleet of airplanes?  I remember one plane had an accident in 2003 and after that the entire fleet was retired forever.  They don’t do this with other plane models so why did they do it with Concorde?  Was the fleet just too old?  I seem to recall they debuted in the mid 1970s.

Anyone know?  Anyone here ever flown the Concorde?  Could a huge BB fit in this tiny cabin (bodybuilding related)?


Parts...there was never very many of them so that obtaining parts became a problem...The airframes probably became unsafe with small stress fractures accumulating, and with parts hard to get...


Why did they retire the original Queen Mary?...same reason...the drive and power system became problematic and it was less expensive to build the QE2 than to replace the systems.  
In a few years an aerospace company will design another SST...just as soon as it becomes a profitable venture.