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I guess its important also to include what you were training. I will go first. My goal was to make the 185 lbs weight division for wrestling and MMA meaning I would have to get down to 197-199 come the day before weigh in then use water manipulation techniques, stop food intake and do old weight cutting tricks like using the stationary bike in the sauna while in a track suit and wearing a garbage bag. Keep in mind with all the wrestling and sparring I would do an average of 3 hours of cardio 6 days a week, so low carb dieting was not an option for me. I started this diet weiging approx 235 lbs and got down to 198 in 10 weeks. I am a believer that the timing of complex carbs greatly affects whether they are used for energy or stored as fat.
Thank you all for your time and contributions
So here goes.
Meal 1- Half a box of Kashi honey almond cereal (small box 420 g, per half cup serving not inlcluding milk has 9 grams of fiber 9 grams of protien, 39 grams of carbs) with skim milk, one peice of fruit.
meal 2- the other half of the box of Kashi honey almond cereal with skim mil, 8 eggs, one yolk, one peace of fruit and a read or green pepper
meal 3- 75 gram whey protien shake, brocoli, carrots, and leafy greens,
meal 4- 2 cans of tuna and leafy greens
meal 5- large portion of ground beef or steak with half a banana if after training
meal 6- 8 eggs 1 yolk, 50 grams of whey protien
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50g biochem protein, 1 tablespoon flax, 50g oatmeal
8 ounces 93 lean ground turkey, 50g brown rice pasta
8 ounces 93 lean ground turkey, 50g brown rice pasta, 1 tablespoon olive oil
50g brown rice cereal, 50g biochem protein (or 25g oatmeal and apple)
workout
8 ounces chicken breast, 1 large baby spinach salad, 50g sweet potato or brown rice
8 ounces chicken breast, 1 tablespoon flax, 1 large baby spinach salad
300, 250, 40
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To day I had
1. 6 egg whites, 1 whole egg
2. 1st Tee Bar and a diet Monster (hole 3)
3. Small bag of Yogurt trail mix
4. Corona Lite at the turn
5. Chicken Cesar salad in the club house.
:D
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this is what i do everyday so far this summer
breakfast: 1 chicken breast and veggies
lunch: 1/2lb ground beef and veggies
post workout: carbs of some kind.. 50-100grams
dinner: 2 cups egg whites with one yolk and veggies (or chicken breast/veggie)
late night snacks: whatever i want
before bed meal: 1/2lb beef or chicken breast or possibly some kind of left over meat dish from something my mom or dad made
been workin nicely
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this is what i do everyday so far this summer
breakfast: 1 chicken breast and veggies
lunch: 1/2lb ground beef and veggies
post workout: carbs of some kind.. 50-100grams
dinner: 2 cups egg whites with one yolk and veggies (or chicken breast/veggie)
late night snacks: whatever i want
before bed meal: 1/2lb beef or chicken breast or possibly some kind of left over meat dish from something my mom or dad made
been workin nicely
Holy lack of Carbs.
I used to be a no carb all protein guy, but ive found my body works better for EVERYTHING, weather that be losing fat or puttin on muscle, with carbs.
I feel better, look better, and have more energy. Im not talking crazy carbs, just maybe a 2:1 ration of Protein to carbvs. Something like that.
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The one where I eat 1 gram of protein per pound of lean body mass then the rest whatever and then subtract 500, 1000 calories from maintenance for 1-2 pounds fatloss or add cardio for 3-4 pounds.Seriously, why do people make things so needlessly complex?
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The one where I eat 1 gram of protein per pound of lean body mass then the rest whatever and then subtract 500, 1000 calories from maintenance for 1-2 pounds fatloss or add cardio for 3-4 pounds.Seriously, why do people make things so needlessly complex?
Truth.
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The one where I eat 1 gram of protein per pound of lean body mass then the rest whatever and then subtract 500, 1000 calories from maintenance for 1-2 pounds fatloss or add cardio for 3-4 pounds.Seriously, why do people make things so needlessly complex?
You display conviction in your beliefs however perhaps deep down you know there is room for improvement. Many with this sort of rhetoric are scared to realise their potential under a well structured bodybuilding regiment. In other words you won't give this shit 100% because then you would be in every way comparable to the next man without excuse. You start to consume 5000+ cals and you can be damned sure you better be paying attention to amounts of sodium, fiber, fats and carbohydrates. Energy levels, constipation, well being, hypertension and the amount of fat - gall bladder all become a concern in a performance related diet. Don't confuse or entice the masses of getbig with this nonsense...
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Holy lack of Carbs.
I used to be a no carb all protein guy, but ive found my body works better for EVERYTHING, weather that be losing fat or puttin on muscle, with carbs.
I feel better, look better, and have more energy. Im not talking crazy carbs, just maybe a 2:1 ration of Protein to carbvs. Something like that.
on some nights my late night snack(s) can total more than 500 grams of carbs. plus lots of fat. most nights i try to keep the total carbs below 200 and fats minimal, but i cant always control myself. ;D
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Nitro Tech hardcore
hydroxy cut
meso-tech
anator p70
gakin
1g of musco-xt
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on some nights my late night snack(s) can total more than 500 grams of carbs. plus lots of fat. most nights i try to keep the total carbs below 200 and fats minimal, but i cant always control myself. ;D
What's with the macro counting, I thought a "calorie was just a calorie"...
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What's with the macro counting, I thought a "calorie was just a calorie"...
i dont count macros!
i eat breakfast lunch and dinner. plus some protein before bed.
at every meal i eat roughly 8-10 ounces of meat protein. with 4 meals total that equates to roughly 200 grams of protein daily from meat alone. along with the protein at each meal i eat vegetables.
so basically, all protein with zero carbs and fats. except for post workout carbs which i feel are pretty helpful.
i eat this way because im tyring to cut up but i know i cant control my appetite like i used to (well at least i dont want to :P ) and it allows me to have late night binges.
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i dont count macros!
i eat breakfast lunch and dinner. plus some protein before bed.
at every meal i eat roughly 8-10 ounces of meat protein. with 4 meals total that equates to roughly 200 grams of protein daily from meat alone. along with the protein at each meal i eat vegetables.
so basically, all protein with zero carbs and fats. except for post workout carbs which i feel are pretty helpful.
i eat this way because im tyring to cut up but i know i cant control my appetite like i used to (well at least i dont want to :P ) and it allows me to have late night binges.
Nutrition (bodybuilding) 101...if you drop carbs you raise fats.
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Nutrition (bodybuilding) 101...if you drop carbs you raise fats.
and then calories stay equal.. ::)
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i dont count macros!
i eat breakfast lunch and dinner. plus some protein before bed.
at every meal i eat roughly 8-10 ounces of meat protein. with 4 meals total that equates to roughly 200 grams of protein daily from meat alone. along with the protein at each meal i eat vegetables.
so basically, all protein with zero carbs and fats. except for post workout carbs which i feel are pretty helpful.
i eat this way because im tyring to cut up but i know i cant control my appetite like i used to (well at least i dont want to :P ) and it allows me to have late night binges.
Ahh.. gotcha. I kinda did the same thing when I didnt want to deprive myself of good foods, so I get a baseline with all my protein, and I keep it well below maintence, and kinda work my daily little spluges in, which Is my daily doughnut and the occaisonal Berry and cream danish. And I am still getting cut up. So yeah, it works.
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and then calories stay equal.. ::)
One day you'll figure it out but obviously it's going to be later than sooner :-\
Here a thought, you get ready for a show using your way (strictly calorie counting) and I'll do the same show using my way (macros) and we'll see who comes in leaner and sharper.
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200mg test prop eod
100mg tern ace eod
50mg winni tabs split in half morning and afternoon
Then eat some food and workout.... :D
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I can only keep this up for a few weeks at a time. It's just so much eating but when I'm on it and stick to it I grow like a weed.
Meal 1, 8:00 am
2 scoops ON Whey
1 cup oatmeal w/raisins, 1 cup milk
2 slices whole wheat bread
1 ISS Super Vitamin Pak, 5 grams ISS glutamine
Meal 2, 10:00 am
5oz steak
8oz baked yam
1 cup brown rice
1½ oz almonds
Meal 3, 12:00 pm
1 scoop ON Whey
1 can tuna
2 slices whole wheat bread
1½ cups broccoli
1½ oz dried apricots
Meal 4, 2:00 pm (pre-workout)
1 Meso-Tech w/1½ cups milk
8oz baked potato
5 grams creatine, 10 grams ISS glutamine
Meal 5, 6:00 pm (post-workout)
1 scoop ON Whey w/1 cup milk
4oz chicken breast
8oz baked potato
15g creatine with dextrose, 10 grams ISS glutamine
Meal 6, 9:00 pm
1 serving American Bodybuilding XXL w/2 cups milk
5 strawberries
Meal 7, 11:00 pm
5oz steak
2 cups brown rice
1½ cups broccoli
5 grams ISS glutamine
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on some nights my late night snack(s) can total more than 500 grams of carbs. plus lots of fat. most nights i try to keep the total carbs below 200 and fats minimal, but i cant always control myself. ;D
what kind of late snacks are these tbombz?
i mean sweet things like icecream and stuff?
Man i just LOVE sweet things - for exampple put a pizza in front of me and a bowl of good icecream and i will take icecream anyday over the pizza..
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Thanks for all the replies guys.
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good info on this thread.
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1 snickers bar and a can of soup, this will rip you up in no time.
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anything will rip you up.....as long as you drop your calories and maintain protein intake
your diet could consist of donuts and protein shakes, as as long as you at a caloric deficit.....your gonna get lean
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1 whole medium sized watermelon
A half box of dates or 5-6 bananas
Same as breakfast
10 bananas
4-6oz raw chicken or lean beef.
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anything will rip you up.....as long as you drop your calories and maintain protein intake
your diet could consist of donuts and protein shakes, as as long as you at a caloric deficit.....your gonna get lean
Thanks for that astonishing info. Who would have ever thought that?
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anything will rip you up.....as long as you drop your calories and maintain protein intake
your diet could consist of donuts and protein shakes, as as long as you at a caloric deficit.....your gonna get lean
Haha, okay Adonis whatever you say. ::)
Must have missed all those pro bodybuilders out there getting ripped on whey and doughnuts.
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what kind of late snacks are these tbombz?
i mean sweet things like icecream and stuff?
Man i just LOVE sweet things - for exampple put a pizza in front of me and a bowl of good icecream and i will take icecream anyday over the pizza..
dude i eat whatever i feel like eating. usually whatever looks best from whats inside the pantry/freezer/fridge. sometimes ill go to the store and buy a bunch of candy or donuts or whatever, sometimes go to fast food. i do have a huge sweet tooth, but sometimes i get cravings for fats too. when im not too hungry, ill usually do soemthing like non fat frozen yogurt.
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200mg test prop eod
100mg tern ace eod
50mg winni tabs split in half morning and afternoon
Then eat some food and workout.... :D
Palumbo design your diet?
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1 coffee, carrots, Knäckebrot, cheese or wurst
Olives, pasta(Hundeloni), sugo - or: lentils, beans + veggies
2 coffees, vegatables, fruit, 3 slices of bread with cheese or some ham
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Haha, okay Adonis whatever you say. ::)
Must have missed all those pro bodybuilders out there getting ripped on whey and doughnuts.
keep downing that oatmeal there buddy ::) ::)
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oats (oatmeal) with water, raisins.
dark bread (rye) with e.g. ham
fruits, vegetables
potatoes, meat, vegetables.
lots of water.
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I guess its important also to include what you were training. I will go first. My goal was to make the 185 lbs weight division for wrestling and MMA meaning I would have to get down to 197-199 come the day before weigh in then use water manipulation techniques, stop food intake and do old weight cutting tricks like using the stationary bike in the sauna while in a track suit and wearing a garbage bag. Keep in mind with all the wrestling and sparring I would do an average of 3 hours of cardio 6 days a week, so low carb dieting was not an option for me. I started this diet weiging approx 235 lbs and got down to 198 in 10 weeks. I am a believer that the timing of complex carbs greatly affects whether they are used for energy or stored as fat.
Thank you all for your time and contributions
So here goes.
Meal 1- Half a box of Kashi honey almond cereal (small box 420 g, per half cup serving not inlcluding milk has 9 grams of fiber 9 grams of protien, 39 grams of carbs) with skim milk, one peice of fruit.
meal 2- the other half of the box of Kashi honey almond cereal with skim mil, 8 eggs, one yolk, one peace of fruit and a read or green pepper
meal 3- 75 gram whey protien shake, brocoli, carrots, and leafy greens,
meal 4- 2 cans of tuna and leafy greens
meal 5- large portion of ground beef or steak with half a banana if after training
meal 6- 8 eggs 1 yolk, 50 grams of whey protien
switch to a leaner protein source post training. if you are going to eat red meat, eat it before you train, or at the last meal before bed with no carbs- just greens.
what kind of fruit are you eating early in the day? don't spike your insulin levels too early in the day with hi GI carbs- stick to apples etc earlier in the day if you are eating fruit. the first meal post training (not immediately) you can take in some berries w/ an isolate shake.as they are a good antioxidant.
after you train, try to take in some BCAA's (like scivation extend- fucking great supplement) and not take in whole foods (including isolate) for an hour or hour and a half or so, the longer the better. let your body burn off the calories you took in earlier in the day and let your metabolism roll into burning off some extra fat as well.
thats a shit load of protein for your last meal. i like the eggs though. use omega 3's and eat 6 whole eggs- if you wake up hungry thru the nite, then have your shake (no milk). no sense inundating your body with so much protein at once.
get rid of the milk if you can. to do this you may have to dump the cereal as well- not a bad thing if you read my last point.
finally your calories are crazy high. all the carb timing in the world wont help you lose fat if your calories are too high. you have kept track of your protein intake etc, but to lose weight you have to know exactlly how many calories your taking in. no ball parking. exactly. you'd be surpriesed how many little extra caloires sneak in when you ball park it. those extra calories over the period of a week could cost you a pound of fat loss.
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switch to a leaner protein source post training. if you are going to eat red meat, eat it before you train, or at the last meal before bed with no carbs- just greens.
what kind of fruit are you eating early in the day? don't spike your insulin levels too early in the day with hi GI carbs- stick to apples etc earlier in the day if you are eating fruit. the first meal post training (not immediately) you can take in some berries w/ an isolate shake.as they are a good antioxidant.
after you train, try to take in some BCAA's (like scivation extend- fucking great supplement) and not take in whole foods (including isolate) for an hour or hour and a half or so, the longer the better. let your body burn off the calories you took in earlier in the day and let your metabolism roll into burning off some extra fat as well.
thats a shit load of protein for your last meal. i like the eggs though. use omega 3's and eat 6 whole eggs- if you wake up hungry thru the nite, then have your shake (no milk). no sense inundating your body with so much protein at once.
get rid of the milk if you can. to do this you may have to dump the cereal as well- not a bad thing if you read my last point.
finally your calories are crazy high. all the carb timing in the world wont help you lose fat if your calories are too high. you have kept track of your protein intake etc, but to lose weight you have to know exactlly how many calories your taking in. no ball parking. exactly. you'd be surpriesed how many little extra caloires sneak in when you ball park it. those extra calories over the period of a week could cost you a pound of fat loss.
Excellent post, bro.
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dude i eat whatever i feel like eating. usually whatever looks best from whats inside the pantry/freezer/fridge. sometimes ill go to the store and buy a bunch of candy or donuts or whatever, sometimes go to fast food. i do have a huge sweet tooth, but sometimes i get cravings for fats too. when im not too hungry, ill usually do soemthing like non fat frozen yogurt.
yeah i have a sweet tooth too....
how will i ever manage to control it, i dont know... :-\
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Liquid egg whites mixed with oj and a banana.
2 packs of oatmeat
tuna on whole wheat with low fat mayo
turkey slices
piece of fruit
chicken breast on the Foreman grill with a salad
lowfat pudding
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7AM - Cigarette and coffee
8AM - another coffee
10AM - jack and diet coke
11AM - cigarette
noon - workout
3PM - coffee and smoke
5PM - chicken drumstick
late night snack - jack and smoke.
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7AM - Cigarette and coffee
8AM - another coffee
10AM - jack and diet coke
11AM - cigarette
noon - workout
3PM - coffee and smoke
5PM - chicken drumstick
late night snack - jack and smoke.
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Excellent post, bro.
excellent post, bro
:D
where the fuck you been!? good to see you sill around sir.
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7AM - Cigarette and coffee
8AM - another coffee
10AM - jack and diet coke
11AM - cigarette
noon - workout
3PM - coffee and smoke
5PM - chicken drumstick
late night snack - jack and smoke.
Best I've seen yet. ;D
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I guess its important also to include what you were training. I will go first. My goal was to make the 185 lbs weight division for wrestling and MMA meaning I would have to get down to 197-199 come the day before weigh in then use water manipulation techniques, stop food intake and do old weight cutting tricks like using the stationary bike in the sauna while in a track suit and wearing a garbage bag. Keep in mind with all the wrestling and sparring I would do an average of 3 hours of cardio 6 days a week, so low carb dieting was not an option for me. I started this diet weiging approx 235 lbs and got down to 198 in 10 weeks. I am a believer that the timing of complex carbs greatly affects whether they are used for energy or stored as fat.
Thank you all for your time and contributions
So here goes.
Meal 1- Half a box of Kashi honey almond cereal (small box 420 g, per half cup serving not inlcluding milk has 9 grams of fiber 9 grams of protien, 39 grams of carbs) with skim milk, one peice of fruit.
meal 2- the other half of the box of Kashi honey almond cereal with skim mil, 8 eggs, one yolk, one peace of fruit and a read or green pepper
meal 3- 75 gram whey protien shake, brocoli, carrots, and leafy greens,
meal 4- 2 cans of tuna and leafy greens
meal 5- large portion of ground beef or steak with half a banana if after training
meal 6- 8 eggs 1 yolk, 50 grams of whey protien
Age, level of non-gym activity and additional drug use also should be considered.
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7AM - Cigarette and coffee
8AM - another coffee
10AM - jack and diet coke
11AM - cigarette
noon - workout
3PM - coffee and smoke
5PM - chicken drumstick
late night snack - jack and smoke.
;D
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6 eggs, one cup oatmeal, one bananna, grapefruit juice
8oz chicken, 2 tortillas, one cup apple sauce
8oz ground turkey, 2 cups green beans
8oz chicken, salad w/dressing
8oz steak, 2 cups broccoli
8oz steak, 2 cups broccoli
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switch to a leaner protein source post training. if you are going to eat red meat, eat it before you train, or at the last meal before bed with no carbs- just greens.
what kind of fruit are you eating early in the day? don't spike your insulin levels too early in the day with hi GI carbs- stick to apples etc earlier in the day if you are eating fruit. the first meal post training (not immediately) you can take in some berries w/ an isolate shake.as they are a good antioxidant.
after you train, try to take in some BCAA's (like scivation extend- fucking great supplement) and not take in whole foods (including isolate) for an hour or hour and a half or so, the longer the better. let your body burn off the calories you took in earlier in the day and let your metabolism roll into burning off some extra fat as well.
thats a shit load of protein for your last meal. i like the eggs though. use omega 3's and eat 6 whole eggs- if you wake up hungry thru the nite, then have your shake (no milk). no sense inundating your body with so much protein at once.
get rid of the milk if you can. to do this you may have to dump the cereal as well- not a bad thing if you read my last point.
finally your calories are crazy high. all the carb timing in the world wont help you lose fat if your calories are too high. you have kept track of your protein intake etc, but to lose weight you have to know exactlly how many calories your taking in. no ball parking. exactly. you'd be surpriesed how many little extra caloires sneak in when you ball park it. those extra calories over the period of a week could cost you a pound of fat loss.
Thanks for the advice bro but I think you missed the part where I said I do an average of 3 hours of Cardio a day, 6 days a week. Intesnse cardio like boxing, wrestling, circuit drills, running upstairs ect. That is why a low carb diet for me is out of the question and why I felt the need to have so many calories.
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on workout days :
meal 1 : 40g whey protein + 600ml water + 5g fish oil
meal 2 : 100g oats + 30g whey protein + 200ml low fat milk
meal 3 : banana + 30g whey protein in water + 5g fish oil
workout
meal 4 : pwo shake 40g protein + 60g dextrose
meal 5 : 150g tuna + 100g cheese + veggies + 5g fish oil
meal 6 : 200g tuna/chicken + veggies + 5g fish oil
meal 7 : 200g meat/chicken/fish + 5g fish oil
on off days pretty much the same but cut out some of the carbs and replace with fat.
cheat meals here and there..
yeah I sure love my protein powder.
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Meal 1 :whole loaf of white bread and stick of butter made into toast, pound of bacon,gallon of orange juice. Meal 2 :8-10 bologna sandwiches,pound bag of potato chips,2-3 snack cakes,six pack of pepsi.[ In between protein shake] Meal 3: two whole chickens,pound and a half of mashed potatoes six pack of beer,half gallon of ice cream...
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meal 1 mango juice and assorted vits and mins. meal 2 tuna salad. meal 3 protein shake meal 4 2 bananas. this helped when i was a fat fuc%$g slob to take weight off.
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Massive dude!
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50u long acting slin in morning
15u fast acting each meal
milkshake 3bananas and icecream and honey
high energy mix of cereal big bowl with fullcream milk
orange juice fresh
snack mcdonals extra large meal plus cheeseburger coke
snack fastfood meal from supermarket microwave whatever has most protein most carbs
meal steak french fries salad water and grapejuice all throughout day
late meal chinese take-away beef dish with sauce and rice
the fatsos cannot try this this is for lean muscular bodies low bf on nice amount of T