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Title: UFC - Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Lesnar!
Post by: che on July 03, 2010, 09:51:30 PM
Mark my words.
Title: Re: Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Lesnar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Shockwave on July 03, 2010, 09:52:07 PM
Not if Dana has anything to say about it. haha. :o
Title: Re: Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Lesnar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: spinnis on July 03, 2010, 09:53:19 PM
Lesnar needs to get Alot more comfortable in the ring/standing up. This comes with time also. Especially the comfortable issue.
Title: Re: Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Lesnar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: che on July 03, 2010, 09:53:33 PM
Not if Dana has anything to say about it. haha. :o

He won't give Junior the chance.
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Post by: Shockwave on July 03, 2010, 09:54:32 PM
He won't give Junior the chance.
Agreed. Hes already picked Cain for the next fight lol.
Im sure hell pick the opponents that look like itll be a good fight, but that he feels lesnar will pull out.
Title: Re: Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Lesnar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: James Blunt on July 03, 2010, 09:57:36 PM
No way. Lesnar is death and destruction.
Title: Re: Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Lesnar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: che on July 03, 2010, 09:58:45 PM
Lesnar needs to get Alot more comfortable in the ring/standing up. This comes with time also. Especially the comfortable issue.

Lesnar has heart ,competitive spirit , freaky strength and good wrestling that's enough to beat 90 %  of  the heavyweights  but his standing skills are horrible and no BJJ.
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Post by: Fury on July 03, 2010, 09:59:30 PM
Lesnar has heart ,competitive spirit , freaky strenght and good wrestling that's enough to beat 90 %  of  the heavyweights  but his standing skills are horrible and no BJJ.

So what you're saying is that the UFC HW fights are pretty much freakshow spectacles?
Title: Re: Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Lesnar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: spinnis on July 03, 2010, 10:02:27 PM
Lesnar has heart ,competitive spirit , freaky strength and good wrestling that's enough to beat 90 %  of  the heavyweights  but his standing skills are horrible and no BJJ.

Im thinking some of is has to do with that he Knows Carwin is a better striker and didnt even want to engage.. Still obviously needs to work hard on it, but thats something that will happen =)
Title: Re: Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Lesnar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: che on July 03, 2010, 10:05:39 PM
So what you're saying is that the UFC HW fights are pretty much freakshow spectacles?

What  I'm saying is that if Lesnar is the #1 heavyweight in the world , on a technical level MMA is a joke
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Post by: jude2 on July 03, 2010, 10:31:01 PM
What  I'm saying is that if Lesnar is the #1 heavyweight in the world , on a technical level MMA is a joke
Brock may not be that technical, but he is athletic, has a strong chin and is a great wrestler.
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Post by: Nirvana on July 03, 2010, 10:32:47 PM
in bodybuilding we can claim politics lost someone a championship, but in mma it's clear cut just because your favorite loses does not mean the "dana had anything to do with it"
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Post by: TacoBell on July 03, 2010, 10:34:55 PM
What  I'm saying is that if Lesnar is the #1 heavyweight in the world , on a technical level MMA is a joke

Thats why its mma and not bjj etc... If someone doesnt like the way he fights, do something about it.
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Post by: spinnis on July 03, 2010, 10:35:41 PM
Thats why its mma and not bjj etc... If someone doesnt like the way he fights, do something about it.

and if they cant It Is technical.
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Post by: benchmstr on July 03, 2010, 10:35:50 PM
in bodybuilding we can claim politics lost someone a championship, but in mma it's clear cut just because your favorite loses does not mean the "dana had anything to do with it"
thats not entirely true....i am not buying into any conspiracy theory's about this fight.....but a lot of boxing promoter have went to jail for paying off refs, judges, and committees.....MMA is no different, it can, and most likely has happen before...

bench
Title: Re: Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Lesnar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: TacoBell on July 03, 2010, 10:37:31 PM
and if they cant It Is technical.

if they cant its because he does what he does better than they do what they do.
Title: Re: Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Lesnar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: che on July 03, 2010, 10:44:02 PM
Thats why its mma and not bjj etc... If someone doesnt like the way he fights, do something about it.
You don't get it   do you ?
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Post by: TacoBell on July 03, 2010, 10:54:58 PM
You don't get it   do you ?

I get it perfectly actually, if wrestling is considered a 'martial art' then he's actually very technically sound as he's taken down all his opponents and pinned them there.
No he's not a blackbelt in bjj or hapkido or whatever, but it seems he's perfected his 'art' just fine.
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Post by: johnny1 on July 03, 2010, 11:00:35 PM
I get it perfectly actually, if wrestling is considered a 'martial art' then he's actually very technically sound as he's taken down all his opponents and pinned them there.
No he's not a blackbelt in bjj or hapkido or whatever, but it seems he's perfected his 'art' just fine.
Exactly.
Title: Re: Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Lesnar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: chaos on July 03, 2010, 11:41:30 PM
Mark my words.
LMAO.
Title: Re: Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Lesnar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: James Blunt on July 04, 2010, 12:26:47 AM
Junior Dos Santos would get pounded out the same way Mir did.
Title: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: doison on July 04, 2010, 12:27:32 AM
Mark my words.

Not unless you add a few more fucking exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Title: Re: Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Lesnar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: noworries on July 04, 2010, 08:51:47 AM
Lesnar has heart ,competitive spirit , freaky strength and good wrestling that's enough to beat 90 %  of  the heavyweights  but his standing skills are horrible and no BJJ.

100% correct.  And I like Lesnar but he is not the best heavyweight fighter.  I think some lighter guys could actually beast him.
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Post by: Rami on July 04, 2010, 09:56:17 AM
Cain is next, and Cain doesn't gas...
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Post by: Tyr on July 04, 2010, 12:41:42 PM
Cain is next, and Cain doesn't gas...

Cain's got good cardio but I don't see JDS or Cain beating Lesnar.

 Neither of them have the punching power of Carwin and Brock absorbed quite a few of those cinderblock punches and staged a comeback.  I'm sure brock's team will work on addressing that glaring gap in brocks defense before his next match.

Then again in an MMA match anything is possible.
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Post by: geneticmarvel on July 04, 2010, 01:37:34 PM
Mark my words.

I agree with you. Lesnar would have a hell of time with any top level striker ie Junior, Overeem, Emelianenko.
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Post by: geneticmarvel on July 04, 2010, 01:38:42 PM
What  I'm saying is that if Lesnar is the #1 heavyweight in the world , on a technical level MMA is a joke

How can he be the best HW in the WORLD when he's only fought Americans?
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Post by: Mr Nobody on July 04, 2010, 01:51:12 PM
Mark my words.
Whats his record? If Lesnar gets him on the ground its lights out.
Title: Re: Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Lesnar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SgtSpar on July 04, 2010, 02:00:29 PM
Whats his record? If Lesnar gets him on the ground its lights out.

8-0.  If you don't know anything about the man how can you say what will happen if it goes to ground?
Title: Re: Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Lesnar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 04, 2010, 02:02:25 PM
8-0.  If you don't know anything about the man how can you say what will happen if it goes to ground?
Last night's fight is proof.
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Post by: big L dawg on July 04, 2010, 03:17:21 PM
Whats his record? If Lesnar gets him on the ground its lights out.

he's 11-1...
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Post by: James Blunt on July 04, 2010, 03:18:42 PM
Junior Dos Santos is awesome but he doesn't have wha it would take to stop Lesnar from holding him down and bashing his face in likle he did Mir. i don't think anyone does.
Title: Re: Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Lesnar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: big L dawg on July 04, 2010, 03:19:55 PM
Mark my words.

I agree...have been saying that for over a year...JDS > brock,carwin,cain....And he's only 26 years old...carwin & brock are dinosaurs that wont be around more than 2-3 years from now where as JDS will be a dominate heavyweight for the next 10 years...
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Post by: James Blunt on July 04, 2010, 05:04:01 PM
http://mixedmartialartvideos.com/brock-lesnar-vs-shane-carwin-video-ufc-116/#more-12722 (http://mixedmartialartvideos.com/brock-lesnar-vs-shane-carwin-video-ufc-116/#more-12722)

Here's a replay for those who missed it.
Title: Re: Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Lesnar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 04, 2010, 05:41:37 PM
Junior Dos Santos is awesome but he doesn't have wha it would take to stop Lesnar from holding him down and bashing his face in likle he did Mir. i don't think anyone does.

You must not have seen the Lesnar Carwin fight...  ::)  ::)

from now on and like in the past, Lesnar is DAna's golden ticket, he's going to get better protection then Obama with the secret service,there is no way Dana will let him fall.. mma has turned into a circus with the ufc, making up rules as they go along..

every other fight would have been stopped before the end of the 1st last night,  but of course not dana's golden boy..for some reason the ref was looking at dana and not the fight when lesnar was getting pounded unconscious.

It will be hand picked opponents for Lesnar for the next few year's and then when Dana has a new golden boy or Brock gets tired of MMA he will suddenly get no love from Dana and lose.
Title: Re: Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Lesnar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: noworries on July 04, 2010, 07:00:38 PM
You must not have seen the Lesnar Carwin fight...  ::)  ::)

from now on and like in the past, Lesnar is DAna's golden ticket, he's going to get better protection then Obama with the secret service,there is no way Dana will let him fall.. mma has turned into a circus with the ufc, making up rules as they go along..

every other fight would have been stopped before the end of the 1st last night,  but of course not dana's golden boy..for some reason the ref was looking at dana and not the fight when lesnar was getting pounded unconscious.

It will be hand picked opponents for Lesnar for the next few year's and then when Dana has a new golden boy or Brock gets tired of MMA he will suddenly get no love from Dana and lose.


Did you see the fight.  Lesnar held Carwin down and he couldn't move at all.  That led to Carwin being a pussy and tapping out.  As Mindlesspin would say that is the biggest embarassment in MMA is tapping (when he called Fedor a pussy for tapping).  Of course Mindlesspin is a moron
Title: Re: Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Lesnar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: James Blunt on July 04, 2010, 07:03:06 PM
You must not have seen the Lesnar Carwin fight...  ::)  ::)

from now on and like in the past, Lesnar is DAna's golden ticket, he's going to get better protection then Obama with the secret service,there is no way Dana will let him fall.. mma has turned into a circus with the ufc, making up rules as they go along..

every other fight would have been stopped before the end of the 1st last night,  but of course not dana's golden boy..for some reason the ref was looking at dana and not the fight when lesnar was getting pounded unconscious.

It will be hand picked opponents for Lesnar for the next few year's and then when Dana has a new golden boy or Brock gets tired of MMA he will suddenly get no love from Dana and lose.

If that's how you see it, awesome. You may as well quit watching.
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Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 04, 2010, 07:35:02 PM
If that's how you see it, awesome. You may as well quit watching.

I have quit watching, mma just showed us that it's just like boxing.. scripted and fixed.
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Post by: polychronopolous on July 04, 2010, 07:42:31 PM
Did you see the fight.  Lesnar held Carwin down and he couldn't move at all.  That led to Carwin being a pussy and tapping out.  As Mindlesspin would say that is the biggest embarassment in MMA is tapping (when he called Fedor a pussy for tapping).  Of course Mindlesspin is a moron

Spot on Keith.

In mindspin's own words, Lesnar could have "made Carwin pass out then kick his head like a soccer ball" if he wanted to...

Epic talking out of both sides of his mouth.
Title: Re: Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Lesnar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 04, 2010, 08:04:37 PM
Next you guys are gonna be saying how Lesnar was dominating the 1st round, LOL..or that lesnar wasn't running the hell away from Carwin's fists ;)
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Post by: chaos on July 04, 2010, 08:08:29 PM
I have quit watching, mma just showed us that it's just like boxing.. scripted and fixed.

UFC must have put fake blood on Carwins gloves so when he "hit" Brock the fake blood rubbed off on his face.
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Post by: James Blunt on July 04, 2010, 08:14:04 PM
Next you guys are gonna be saying how Lesnar was dominating the 1st round, LOL..or that lesnar wasn't running the hell away from Carwin's fists ;)

I think anyone would run away from Carwin's fists. Especially after getting cracked hard and not getting knocked out. Maybe not run in that fashion, but definitely have a desire to get away from them.
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Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 04, 2010, 09:23:45 PM
UFC must have put fake blood on Carwins gloves so when he "hit" Brock the fake blood rubbed off on his face.

Nope, just saying I think the ref was told to 'take it easy on lesnar' meaning do everything in your power to have him win
doesn't mean carwin had to be in on it, though at this point nothing would surprise me, I've always questioned the ref's in the UFC..hell I was making a case FOR Brock in his debut match against Mir when the ref stopped the fight when Lesnar was killing Mir.
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Post by: SgtSpar on July 05, 2010, 11:37:50 AM
he's 11-1...

My bad.  I was thinking of CV.

Quote from: noworries
  That led to Carwin being a pussy and tapping out.

So anyone that taps out is a pussy?  That should go down in the getbig hall of fame for dumbest shit ever posted.
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Post by: chaos on July 05, 2010, 04:15:39 PM
My bad.  I was thinking of CV.

So anyone that taps out is a pussy?  That should go down in the getbig hall of fame for dumbest shit ever posted.
BJ Penn said that, didn't he?
Title: Re: UFC - Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Lesnar!
Post by: big L dawg on July 05, 2010, 04:17:53 PM
I think the biggest pussy move is to not come out for the next rd...which is what BJ did aginst GSP...
Title: Re: Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Lesnar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: noworries on July 05, 2010, 04:46:59 PM
Next you guys are gonna be saying how Lesnar was dominating the 1st round, LOL..or that lesnar wasn't running the hell away from Carwin's fists ;)


Why would anyone say that.  Carwin was dominating him in the first round.  The thing everyone should say is how weak Carwin is and weak he punches after 10 thrown punches.  To be in such a dominating position without Lesnar hitting back and not being able to knock the fuck out of him so he couldn't stand up is something people should be making fun of Carwin about.  I thought Carwin was an unreal puncher.  Do you see how Lesnar punches while on top.  Carwin was dominating for 3+ minutes on top and couldn't hit Lesnar hard enough to get the ref to stop or have Lesnar tap out or quit.  Do you remember how Mir looked after Lesnar beat the shit out of him for only a minute or so.  Can you imagine what Carwin would have looked like if Lesnar was in the position for that long.  Carwin wouldn't have been recognized by his own family.  Carwin and anyone else who said he has heavy fists and can punch should reconsider and apologize for making such stupid statements.  Cause he didn't hurt Lesnar at all.  And Lesnar proved that.  The UFC has real weak heavyweights and the #1 fighter is not in the UFC.  Far from it