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Title: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: MindSpin on July 06, 2010, 10:45:45 AM
Who do you guys consider to be the top 5 guys in each division today?
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: AC Slater on July 06, 2010, 11:02:41 AM
Heavyweight
1. Fedor
2. Overeem
3. Werdum
4. Dos Santos
5. Velasquez

LHW
1. Shogun
2. Evans
3. Machida
4. Arona (i know he hasnt fought in a while)
5. Rampage?

I dont give a shit about the other low weight classes.
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: MindSpin on July 06, 2010, 11:24:07 AM
Your LHWs are pretty spot on.  I find it comical that your top 3 heavy's all happen to be non-UFC fighters...lol.
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: Fury on July 06, 2010, 11:53:28 AM
Heavyweight
1. Fedor
2. Overeem
3. Werdum
4. Dos Santos
5. Velasquez

LHW
1. Shogun
2. Evans
3. Machida
4. Arona (i know he hasnt fought in a while)
5. Rampage?

I dont give a shit about the other low weight classes.


Great lists. I'd switch Velasquez with Dos Santos, though.

This weekend did a great job showing that Strikeforce has the best HWs around right now.
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: coltrane on July 06, 2010, 12:24:44 PM
Heavyweight
1. Fedor
2. Overeem
3. Werdum
4. Dos Santos
5. Velasquez

LHW
1. Shogun
2. Evans
3. Machida
4. Arona (i know he hasnt fought in a while)
5. Rampage?

I dont give a shit about the other low weight classes.


Werdum 3?  haha..  I can see the argument for Fedor at #1, but what about Lesnar or Carwin?  You can't seriously think they don't qualify as being in the top 5!!?
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: coltrane on July 06, 2010, 12:27:15 PM
Great lists. I'd switch Velasquez with Dos Santos, though.

This weekend did a great job showing that Strikeforce has the best HWs around right now.

You would say this no matter what the outcome of the weekend was.  If either Lesnar or Carwin got KO'd, you say they suck and have no chin.  If it went the decision you'd say they can't end fights.

Give it up bro.  Strikeforce has some good HW's, but you're blind if you think UFC doesn't.  It's comical actually to read your posts.
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 06, 2010, 12:52:45 PM
Heavyweight
1. Fedor
2. Overeem
3. Werdum
4. Dos Santos
5. Velasquez

LHW
1. Shogun
2. Evans
3. Machida
4. Arona (i know he hasnt fought in a while)
5. Rampage?

I dont give a shit about the other low weight classes.


Spot on except I would switch Evans with Silva...Anderson Silva

I hate Evans.
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on July 06, 2010, 01:16:20 PM
The question is...Who do I think is top five in each div?  Here's my Hw's

Fedor/Werdum
Velasquez
Roy Nelson
Overeem

Roy Nelson is the most overlooked guy in the UFC right now. After Brock showed that if your a decent wrestler and is able to throw a punch he'd run and fake a heart attack, Roy's chances are looking good.  Dos Santos is impressive, but at this point he's been spoonfed strikers and in return has delivered.  We finally get to see how he'd fare against a good wrestler with top notch BJJ, solid boxing, good cardio and a wealth of experience.  (that plus he's 265lbs, and it dosent slow him down).  Carwin's gas tank is pretty sad, it reminds me of a prime Frank Mir. Velasquez is impressive, his chin has truly been tested, he took punches flush on the jaw and kept coming, he did't get grazed and run and fetal.  His combinations are impressive and he mixes hands and feet well, his cardio is solid and he shown he can recover from a flush shot quick, and if it's not working out on the feet he has his wrestling.  Him and Roy are in the same boat except Roy is carrying some weight on him, however Cain's lack of size makes him quick.  Fedor is still the most well rounded HW out there regardless of the arbitrary rankings, Werdum is ok on the feet, he's got good leg trips, but just so happens to be the best BJJ practioner in the HW division in all of MMA.  
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 06, 2010, 01:19:59 PM
The question is...Who do I think is top five in each div?  Here's my Hw's

Fedor/Werdum
Velasquez
Roy Nelson
Overeem

Roy Nelson is the most overlooked guy in the UFC right now. After Brock showed that if your a decent wrestler and is able to throw a punch he'd run and fake a heart attack, Roy's chances are looking good.  Dos Santos is impressive, but at this point he's been spoonfed strikers and in return has delivered.  We finally get to see how he'd fare against a good wrestler with top notch BJJ, solid boxing, good cardio and a wealth of experience.  (that plus he's 265lbs, and it dosent slow him down).  Carwin's gas tank is pretty sad, it reminds me of a prime Frank Mir. Velasquez is impressive, his chin has truly been tested, he took punches flush on the jaw and kept coming, he did't get grazed and run and fetal.  His combinations are impressive and he mixes hands and feet well, his cardio is solid and he shown he can recover from a flush shot quick, and if it's not working out on the feet he has his wrestling.  Him and Roy are in the same boat except Roy is carrying some weight on him, however Cain's lack of size makes him quick.  Fedor is still the most well rounded HW out there regardless of the arbitrary rankings, Werdum is ok on the feet, he's got good leg trips, but just so happens to be the best BJJ practioner in the HW division in all of MMA.  

I dont think Nelson is as overlooked as you think, he's been fighhting like 10 years and he's nowhere near the top or the top of his game, he was a champ before but in a small org.. he maybe a little overlooked but he's not top 5 material.

He had a hard time beating Kimbo ffs..
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: MindSpin on July 06, 2010, 01:26:49 PM
I dont think Nelson is as overlooked as you think, he's been fighhting like 10 years and he's nowhere near the top or the top of his game, he was a champ before but in a small org.. he maybe a little overlooked but he's not top 5 material.

He had a hard time beating Kimbo ffs..

WTF are you talking about ???  He toyed with Kimbo.  He also called exactly how he would beat him and did it ::)  IMO, Big Country is definitely in the top 5.
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: MindSpin on July 06, 2010, 01:39:37 PM
My Top 5:

HW:
1. Brock
2. Carwin
3. Velasques
4. JDS
5. Big Country

LHW:
1. Anderson Silva
2. Shogun
3. Machida
4. Rashad
5. Jon Jones

MW:
1. Anderson Silva
the rest all suck

WW:
1. GSP
2. Fitch
3. Alves
4. Kos
5. Shields??

LW:
1. Franky
2. BJ
3. Florian
4. George Sotiropoulos
5 Diego Sanchez
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: coltrane on July 06, 2010, 01:43:51 PM
Until Big Country fights and beats JDS he's not in the Top 5 of anything.



Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: Fury on July 06, 2010, 01:58:30 PM
Werdum 3?  haha..  I can see the argument for Fedor at #1, but what about Lesnar or Carwin?  You can't seriously think they don't qualify as being in the top 5!!?

Sherdog has Werdum at #2, retard. ::)

I see no reason to rank either Carwin or Lesnar in the top 5. Both of them embarrassed themselves this weekend.
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: coltrane on July 06, 2010, 02:02:11 PM
Sherdog has Werdum at #2, retard. ::)

And your point being?  I'm still disagreeing.

Who does Sherdog have at #1?    Are you agreeing?


RETARD!
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: Fury on July 06, 2010, 02:02:59 PM
And your point being?  I'm still disagreeing.

Who does Sherdog have at #1?    Are you agreeing?


RETARD!

Mindspin gimmick #839739 meltdown. Don't throw a tiff when someone ranks him #3 when the experts have him at #2.
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: MindSpin on July 06, 2010, 02:04:18 PM
And your point being?  I'm still disagreeing.

Who does Sherdog have at #1?    Are you agreeing?


RETARD!

BF Pwned into oblivion...lol!

Who do you have above Nelson in the heavies?
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: coltrane on July 06, 2010, 02:06:06 PM
Mindspin gimmick #839739 meltdown. Don't throw a tiff when someone ranks him #3 when the experts have him at #2.


Awww the MMA BOARD JESTER's only comeback when being thrashed on this board.

Gimmick!  Gimmick!!      


Anyone that likes the UFC is MIndspin's gimmick account!    
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: Fury on July 06, 2010, 02:06:58 PM
Hahaha, another meltdown. Don't punch your keyboard too hard.

Bonus points for the bolded text. Really drives that point home!
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: MindSpin on July 06, 2010, 02:08:03 PM
Hahaha, another meltdown. Don't punch your keyboard too hard.

Bonus points for the bolded text. Really drives that point home!

lol.  What part of the world do you live in BF?
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: coltrane on July 06, 2010, 02:13:04 PM
Hahaha, another meltdown. Don't punch your keyboard too hard.

Bonus points for the bolded text. Really drives that point home!

BOARD JESTER!!

Do ya like the font size too Jester?
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: coltrane on July 06, 2010, 02:15:21 PM
Now, at the sake of being accused of not responding to the lunacy that is the Jester, i'm writing to say


Adios for the day.  I'm off work and going to the gym.



Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: WeightPSHR on July 06, 2010, 02:26:08 PM
Hahaha, another meltdown. Don't punch your keyboard too hard.

Bonus points for the bolded text. Really drives that point home!

BF...OWNED again.

Seriously, why do even come to this board?
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: Fury on July 06, 2010, 02:27:17 PM
Damn, this dork is ridiculously adept at bouncing between his 12+ accounts.
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: AC Slater on July 06, 2010, 02:33:12 PM
Werdum 3?  haha..  I can see the argument for Fedor at #1, but what about Lesnar or Carwin?  You can't seriously think they don't qualify as being in the top 5!!?

Why should Carwin be top 5?  He gassed before the end of round 1. 

Why should Lesnar be top 5?  He turned his back and RAN from punches, then when he got hit and fell to the ground he assumed the fetal position.

Sad thing is those are the UFC's top ranked heavyweights according to them, and they both looked like a couple of amateurs in the fight.
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: Fury on July 06, 2010, 02:41:34 PM
Why should Carwin be top 5?  He gassed before the end of round 1. 

Why should Lesnar be top 5?  He turned his back and RAN from punches, then when he got hit and fell to the ground he assumed the fetal position.

Sad thing is those are the UFC's top ranked heavyweights according to them, and they both looked like a couple of amateurs in the fight.

Hahaha, the UFC HW division is still a joke. This weekend showed that Strikeforce has the best HWs in the world right now.
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: AC Slater on July 06, 2010, 02:50:46 PM
Hahaha, the UFC HW division is still a joke. This weekend showed that Strikeforce has the best HWs in the world right now.

no shit man.  I dont see how these nuthuggers believe that gassing in the 1st round, or turning your back and running is acceptable for top level fighters.  top level fighters also dont assume the fetal position when they fall down.
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: MindSpin on July 06, 2010, 02:51:41 PM
Top level fighters win fights against other top level fighters.
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: Fury on July 06, 2010, 03:07:17 PM
no shit man.  I dont see how these nuthuggers believe that gassing in the 1st round, or turning your back and running is acceptable for top level fighters.  top level fighters also dont assume the fetal position when they fall down.

It's their penile lust. Clouds their judgment.
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: AC Slater on July 06, 2010, 07:22:27 PM
Top level fighters win fights against other top level fighters.

i totally agree with you.  however if you gas in the 1st round, or turn your back and run like a little girl, you are not a top level fighter

when was the last time you saw a top level fighter get scared and assume fetal position on the mat?
Title: Re: Question for the anti-UFC gang...
Post by: CARTEL on July 06, 2010, 07:42:10 PM
1. Werdum (He beat the best so he sits there for now)
2. Fedor
3. Overeem
4. Cain
5. JDS

I favor any of these guys over Brock or Carwin.