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Title: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: TheGift... on July 06, 2010, 11:31:16 AM
HOW CAN BODYBUILDERS LIKE JAY & RONNIE FOR EXAMPLE BE ON GEAR ALMOST 20 YEARS WITHOUT ANY DANGEROUS HEALTH PROBLEM WITH KIDNEYS,LIVER,HEART ETC... FLEX HAD KIDNEY TRANSPLANT,TOM PRINCE IS ON DYALISIS FOR YEARS,DON LONG HAS NO KIDNEYS-ON DYALISIS AND STILL COMPETE (HOW CAN HE EAT PROTEIN AND BUILD MUSCLES WITHOUT HAVING KIDNEYS)??? MIKE MATARAZZO HAD HEART ATTACK AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON...
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: pluck on July 06, 2010, 11:34:10 AM
Lame.

Please look up what dialysis is you dumbass.
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: hazbin on July 06, 2010, 11:35:33 AM
HOW CAN BODYBUILDERS LIKE JAY & RONNIE FOR EXAMPLE BE ON GEAR ALMOST 20 YEARS WITHOUT ANY DANGEROUS HEALTH PROBLEM WITH KIDNEYS,LIVER,HEART ETC... FLEX HAD KIDNEY TRANSPLANT,TOM PRINCE IS ON DYALISIS FOR YEARS,DON LONG HAS NO KIDNEYS-ON DYALISIS AND STILL COMPETE (HOW CAN HE EAT PROTEIN AND BUILD MUSCLES WITHOUT HAVING KIDNEYS)??? MIKE MATARAZZO HAD HEART ATTACK AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON...

i think it may accellerate predispositions to health problems, but if you dont' have genetic  issues you will be fine for a long time.
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: SgtSpar on July 06, 2010, 11:44:06 AM
Thats like asking how long can you drink without having problems.  It all depends on the amount.  Louie Simmons said he has only ever done one cycle.  It lasted 40 years so far and he has no health problems because of it.  Then again, he isn't shooting 5 grams a week and adding two tons of other shit, including recreational drugs into the mix.
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: hazbin on July 06, 2010, 11:50:30 AM
Thats like asking how long can you drink without having problems.  It all depends on the amount.  Louie Simmons said he has only ever done one cycle.  It lasted 40 years so far and he has no health problems because of it.  Then again, he isn't shooting 5 grams a week and adding two tons of other shit, including recreational drugs into the mix.

qft.   the only people i have known to have problems also drink like crazy and do party drugs as well.
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: Boost on July 06, 2010, 11:52:16 AM
3 of my buddies dropped dead within two weeks of a starting a low HRT dose.
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: sync pulse on July 06, 2010, 11:53:57 AM
If you can do it under a knowledgable doctor's supervision, the risk is minimal...
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: TacoBell on July 06, 2010, 12:18:54 PM
Me thinks 'TheGift...' has the gift that keeps on giving...
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on July 06, 2010, 12:22:52 PM
HOW CAN BODYBUILDERS LIKE JAY & RONNIE FOR EXAMPLE BE ON GEAR ALMOST 20 YEARS WITHOUT ANY DANGEROUS HEALTH PROBLEM WITH KIDNEYS,LIVER,HEART ETC... FLEX HAD KIDNEY TRANSPLANT,TOM PRINCE IS ON DYALISIS FOR YEARS,DON LONG HAS NO KIDNEYS-ON DYALISIS AND STILL COMPETE (HOW CAN HE EAT PROTEIN AND BUILD MUSCLES WITHOUT HAVING KIDNEYS)??? MIKE MATARAZZO HAD HEART ATTACK AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON...




no fagg0t, this list apparently 'does not' go "on and on":...................becau se you named one person  and stopped ::) ::) ::)


and its not even proven exactly why mike had what had happened to him............steroids were obviously a heavy contributor

there have been some others, but the mortality rate is probably not much different then most other pro sports


EVERY mr, olympia it still alive






go kill yourself pussy.........
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: lesaucer on July 06, 2010, 12:54:23 PM
diuretics abuse+no water = fucked up kidney. retards learn it the hard way smarts prevent it.
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: njflex on July 06, 2010, 01:04:22 PM
diuretics abuse+no water = fucked up kidney. retards learn it the hard way smarts prevent it.
qft,,,,it's all the other substances used and abused to get in the shape needed to compete,bbing isn't the boy scouts u need to do whatever ,whenever to sustain a type of condition and muscle to be competitive,and for a long time .most people can't handle the real rigors of first using bulking drugs then contest prep cycles yr in and out to achieve top form.then all the other stuff synthol,insulin,diuretics,thyroid,u or your prep guy need to carry this out without messing one's health for life.these's guys are pro's for many reason's other than just lifting,dieting.
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: JasonH on July 06, 2010, 01:45:21 PM
HOW CAN BODYBUILDERS LIKE JAY & RONNIE FOR EXAMPLE BE ON GEAR ALMOST 20 YEARS WITHOUT ANY DANGEROUS HEALTH PROBLEM WITH KIDNEYS,LIVER,HEART ETC... FLEX HAD KIDNEY TRANSPLANT,TOM PRINCE IS ON DYALISIS FOR YEARS,DON LONG HAS NO KIDNEYS-ON DYALISIS AND STILL COMPETE (HOW CAN HE EAT PROTEIN AND BUILD MUSCLES WITHOUT HAVING KIDNEYS)??? MIKE MATARAZZO HAD HEART ATTACK AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON...

It's the same as every vice in life - some people smoke cigarettes and could live til 90, others are breathing out of a tube in their 30's - same goes for alcohol, the list goes on.

It all boils down to one thing at the end of the day, especially where bodybuilding's concerned - genetics.
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: no one on July 06, 2010, 02:28:17 PM
HOW CAN BODYBUILDERS LIKE JAY & RONNIE FOR EXAMPLE BE ON GEAR ALMOST 20 YEARS WITHOUT ANY DANGEROUS HEALTH PROBLEM WITH KIDNEYS,LIVER,HEART ETC... FLEX HAD KIDNEY TRANSPLANT,TOM PRINCE IS ON DYALISIS FOR YEARS,DON LONG HAS NO KIDNEYS-ON DYALISIS AND STILL COMPETE (HOW CAN HE EAT PROTEIN AND BUILD MUSCLES WITHOUT HAVING KIDNEYS)??? MIKE MATARAZZO HAD HEART ATTACK AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON...

just like anything else, abuse of a compound over extended periods of time will harm you.

the heathy ones get their blood work done constantly and spend as much on preventative maintenance and the compounds associated with it as they do their 'gear'.

the stupid ones dont get their blood work done, could give a fuck about their health, and abuse compounds known to impair renal function.

you can take 'gear' and not have it kill you. just be smart about it.

Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: Croatch on July 06, 2010, 02:44:06 PM
Unless you're getting paid to take drugs, you are simply an idiot for doing them.
We got it, you couldn't hack it on your own.  Now move on.
Wooosh!
It's the way of the weak gym goer these days.  Everyone is the next Arnold, minus the genetics.
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: drkaje on July 06, 2010, 02:55:54 PM
Unless you're getting paid to take drugs, you are simply an idiot for doing them.
We got it, you couldn't hack it on your own.  Now move on.
Wooosh!
It's the way of the weak gym goer these days.  Everyone is the next Arnold, minus the genetics.

I wonder what the long term health effects are on the average user. Obviously we'll never know for sure but it's 100% certain most chronic users will have long term health repercussions. It's OK if they don't care but being more honest about the shit might not be such a bad thing.
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: gh15 on July 06, 2010, 03:03:41 PM
no body is gettiug pay to take drugs,,they are not drugs in many countrys but americana,,they are perfectly legal in portugal non controlled and same in turky and egypt and asia in many places,,even in americana they werent controlled when reeves used and then arnold and then the freaky dosages of dorian and jason,,,its just hormones my friend

now,,the fellas who have kidny problems and kidny failure you think they stop? IN THE FUCKIN HOSPITAL THEY ALREADY HAVE DEALERS UP THEIR ASS OFFERING SHIT,,THOSE ARE ADDICTS!!  do you think a fella like hazbins or whatevever ever stoped using? those are fellas who never stop most gym rats dont ever stop ,,most bodybuiolders dont ever stop,,we take it for yeards,,not only 20 but 40,,we change doseas but addiction to hormones is always there since its not like a bad recreational drug its just hormone...

you got darem now using for over 25 years,,do you think he wil ever stop?? have you seen his son? do you even know what age you start using to even become a professional now days and back then? you have this all illusion on the internet that you can start at age 30 since its safe and become a professional lol,, my friends the profdessionals start very early ,,we start at ages 15-20 when we are very very young,,we dont wait for no finish of growithing balonie,,

get your head out of your ass friends,,over 1000 packages tro the americana DAILY!!! FUCKIN 9 OUT OF 10 PEOPLEON ANY BOARD ARE ON HORMONES ,,

AS I SAID BEFORE MANY TIMES ,,ITS NARCOTICS WHO MAKE THE PROBLEMS ,,ITS ALCOHOL IN ADDITION TO NARCOTICS WHILE ON HORMONES WHO MAKE THE PROBELM,,,THE BLAME ALWAYS FALL ON HORMONES AND ITS WHY THE PUBLIC CONFUSED,,EVENTHOUGH TODAY ALOT MORE PEOPLE KNOW THAT DOCTORS ARE NOTHING AND DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT HORMONES,,

GIVE ME 10 K AND I WONT LET AMERICANO DOCTOR OPEN ME UP AND MAKE A SURGERY ON ME,,THEY ARE THE ABSOLUT WOROST,,AMERICANO ANYTHING IS JUNK,,EQUIPMENT IS GOOD ,,BUT HUMANS IN AMERICANA ARE JUNK AND THAT INCLUDED THE DOCTORS SO ALL THE ONES WHO USE HORMONES AND ALL THE OTHER REAL DRUGS AND GET PROBLEMS YOU BETTER HAVE A GOOD CORCTOR WHO IS NOT AMERICANO BECAUSE AMERICANO DOCTORCS WILL WORK BY THE BOOK THEY WILL LET YOU DIE RIGHT THERE ON THE TABLE IF SOMETHING CAN OFFER BETTER PRICE,,THATS THE GENERATION NOTHINGNESS I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT,,THE DOCTORRS NOW DAYS WHO DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT HORMONES ARE ALL AMERICANOS FROM A GENERATION OF SELF ABSORD CLUELESS CRAP THAT WILL CHOSE THE EASIEST WAY OUT EVEN IF IT MEANS OPEN YOU UP INSTED OF DRAINING YOU ETC ETCLOL

in any case AS GH15 SAID MANY TIMES,,WE ARE PROFESSIONAL FOR A REASON,,WE TOOK THE RISK ,,TOMAS DECIDED TO PLAY WITH NARCOTICS THUS FINISHED HIMSELF FORVEER ,,,DON LONG FINISHED A KIDNY BUT STILL JUICES NO PROBLEMOS,,AND THE SMART ONES ...NOT ONLY THAT WE DONT DO BLOOD WORK ,,RARLEY DO BLOOD WORK BUT WE DONT HAVE TIME FOR EVEN CHANGE NEEDLES SOMETIME AND JUST CLEAN OUR NEEDLE OUR OWN NEEDLE WITH 90% ALCOHOL AND JUST REUSE IT 10 TIMES ,,TRUST ME ITS DONE ON A REGULAR BASIS

MANY OF YOU KIDS ARE IN DREAM LAND ,,YOU HAVE NO CLUE TO WHAT WE ACTUALLY DO AND HOW WE DO IT ,,GH15 HAS OPENED YOUR EYES TO THE TRUE TRUE TRUE LIFE OF A BODYBUILDER,,

GENETIC RESPOND IS EVERYTHING,,ALL THE REST ,,TRAINING FOOD WIL DO ABSOLUT NOTHING AND WILL LEAVE YOU A WET 183 LB AT 10% WITH OUT THSOE HORMONES

gh15 approved
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: G_Thang on July 06, 2010, 03:10:15 PM
crazy ad circulating on net.  hope sean gets his royalties.  plenty of beef and nothing upstairs.  perfect fit.   
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: TooMuchMuscle4U on July 06, 2010, 03:24:50 PM
crazy ad circulating on net.  hope sean gets his royalties.  plenty of beef and nothing upstairs.  perfect fit.   

Real  ::)
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: Army of One on July 06, 2010, 03:40:13 PM
SEVENTY YEARS FORTY FIVE DAYS AND 6 HOURS BRO
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on July 06, 2010, 08:20:17 PM
no body is gettiug pay to take drugs,,they are not drugs in many countrys but americana,,they are perfectly legal in portugal non controlled and same in turky and egypt and asia in many places,,even in americana they werent controlled when reeves used and then arnold and then the freaky dosages of dorian and jason,,,its just hormones my friend

now,,the fellas who have kidny problems and kidny failure you think they stop? IN THE FUCKIN HOSPITAL THEY ALREADY HAVE DEALERS UP THEIR ASS OFFERING SHIT,,THOSE ARE ADDICTS!!  do you think a fella like hazbins or whatevever ever stoped using? those are fellas who never stop most gym rats dont ever stop ,,most bodybuiolders dont ever stop,,we take it for yeards,,not only 20 but 40,,we change doseas but addiction to hormones is always there since its not like a bad recreational drug its just hormone...

you got darem now using for over 25 years,,do you think he wil ever stop?? have you seen his son? do you even know what age you start using to even become a professional now days and back then? you have this all illusion on the internet that you can start at age 30 since its safe and become a professional lol,, my friends the profdessionals start very early ,,we start at ages 15-20 when we are very very young,,we dont wait for no finish of growithing balonie,,

get your head out of your ass friends,,over 1000 packages tro the americana DAILY!!! FUCKIN 9 OUT OF 10 PEOPLEON ANY BOARD ARE ON HORMONES ,,

AS I SAID BEFORE MANY TIMES ,,ITS NARCOTICS WHO MAKE THE PROBLEMS ,,ITS ALCOHOL IN ADDITION TO NARCOTICS WHILE ON HORMONES WHO MAKE THE PROBELM,,,THE BLAME ALWAYS FALL ON HORMONES AND ITS WHY THE PUBLIC CONFUSED,,EVENTHOUGH TODAY ALOT MORE PEOPLE KNOW THAT DOCTORS ARE NOTHING AND DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT HORMONES,,

GIVE ME 10 K AND I WONT LET AMERICANO DOCTOR OPEN ME UP AND MAKE A SURGERY ON ME,,THEY ARE THE ABSOLUT WOROST,,AMERICANO ANYTHING IS JUNK,,EQUIPMENT IS GOOD ,,BUT HUMANS IN AMERICANA ARE JUNK AND THAT INCLUDED THE DOCTORS SO ALL THE ONES WHO USE HORMONES AND ALL THE OTHER REAL DRUGS AND GET PROBLEMS YOU BETTER HAVE A GOOD CORCTOR WHO IS NOT AMERICANO BECAUSE AMERICANO DOCTORCS WILL WORK BY THE BOOK THEY WILL LET YOU DIE RIGHT THERE ON THE TABLE IF SOMETHING CAN OFFER BETTER PRICE,,THATS THE GENERATION NOTHINGNESS I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT,,THE DOCTORRS NOW DAYS WHO DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT HORMONES ARE ALL AMERICANOS FROM A GENERATION OF SELF ABSORD CLUELESS CRAP THAT WILL CHOSE THE EASIEST WAY OUT EVEN IF IT MEANS OPEN YOU UP INSTED OF DRAINING YOU ETC ETCLOL

in any case AS GH15 SAID MANY TIMES,,WE ARE PROFESSIONAL FOR A REASON,,WE TOOK THE RISK ,,TOMAS DECIDED TO PLAY WITH NARCOTICS THUS FINISHED HIMSELF FORVEER ,,,DON LONG FINISHED A KIDNY BUT STILL JUICES NO PROBLEMOS,,AND THE SMART ONES ...NOT ONLY THAT WE DONT DO BLOOD WORK ,,RARLEY DO BLOOD WORK BUT WE DONT HAVE TIME FOR EVEN CHANGE NEEDLES SOMETIME AND JUST CLEAN OUR NEEDLE OUR OWN NEEDLE WITH 90% ALCOHOL AND JUST REUSE IT 10 TIMES ,,TRUST ME ITS DONE ON A REGULAR BASIS

MANY OF YOU KIDS ARE IN DREAM LAND ,,YOU HAVE NO CLUE TO WHAT WE ACTUALLY DO AND HOW WE DO IT ,,GH15 HAS OPENED YOUR EYES TO THE TRUE TRUE TRUE LIFE OF A BODYBUILDER,,

GENETIC RESPOND IS EVERYTHING,,ALL THE REST ,,TRAINING FOOD WIL DO ABSOLUT NOTHING AND WILL LEAVE YOU A WET 183 LB AT 10% WITH OUT THSOE HORMONES

gh15 approved

Will someone teach this asshole English.

THE BEEF

Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on July 07, 2010, 02:39:54 AM
Will someone teach this asshole English.

THE BEEF




that "asshole" forgets more profound information about life, women, and hormones in one day..........then a shit-stain like you could hope to aquire in 3 lifetimes.



have some respect for your god...
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: dustin on July 07, 2010, 03:36:47 AM
i think it may accellerate predispositions to health problems, but if you dont' have genetic  issues you will be fine for a long time.

Spot on. Not much else needs to be said about the matter. Exogenous testosterone can be relatively safe even if taken pretty haphazardly. Under the guidance of an informed medical professional with regular check ups, I'd say it'd be hard to fuck yourself up.

Who was the fucking nob polisher that mentioned dialysis??? We're not talking about raging alcoholism and benzodiazepine addiction. Get the fuck out of here, tiny tit.
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: pellius on July 07, 2010, 04:07:31 AM
Everything in life is a matter of degrees. You can over dose on food for chrissakes. Steroids are hormones all derived from testosterone which is produced naturally in your body. I've been on HRT for almost ten years straight. My blood work is always great. My cholesterol is actually better than before I started taking testosterone. I plan to be on it for the rest of my life or at least until I decide I don't want to keep my strength, energy, sex drive and zest for life. I wish I could get on HGH as I think that gets even more important as you approach fifty. But nowadays if you bring up this subject to the docs they act like you want them to be crack dealers.

My idea life long program would be 150-200mg weekly test, 2iu HGH daily, and 200mg week deca. I think that will keep me robust and healthy all the way into my seventies if not more. Stallone is older than Arnold but not only looks great but can do things most thirty year olds can't. And Chuck Norris turned 70 this year and still kicks ass. And I'm sure he's doing more than taking his vitamins and using Bow Flex. And you can be sure Randy Couture is still able to get in the Octagon at 47 by  using testosterone and HGH within the limits that allows him to past the drug test (well, maybe not HGH. I'm sure he goes crazy on that as I would if I were in his shoes).

You only have one life and you should use, and be able to use, any means available to enhance the quality of your life. Besides, one of the roles of government is to have a say as to what you do to others but as long as it doesn't effect anyone else what you do to yourself is nobody else's business.
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on July 07, 2010, 06:58:08 AM

that "asshole" forgets more profound information about life, women, and hormones in one day..........then a shit-stain like you could hope to aquire in 3 lifetimes.



have some respect for your god...

You're not showing any for yours, son.

THE BEEF
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: njflex on July 07, 2010, 12:12:56 PM
Everything in life is a matter of degrees. You can over dose on food for chrissakes. Steroids are hormones all derived from testosterone which is produced naturally in your body. I've been on HRT for almost ten years straight. My blood work is always great. My cholesterol is actually better than before I started taking testosterone. I plan to be on it for the rest of my life or at least until I decide I don't want to keep my strength, energy, sex drive and zest for life. I wish I could get on HGH as I think that gets even more important as you approach fifty. But nowadays if you bring up this subject to the docs they act like you want them to be crack dealers.

My idea life long program would be 150-200mg weekly test, 2iu HGH daily, and 200mg week deca. I think that will keep me robust and healthy all the way into my seventies if not more. Stallone is older than Arnold but not only looks great but can do things most thirty year olds can't. And Chuck Norris turned 70 this year and still kicks ass. And I'm sure he's doing more than taking his vitamins and using Bow Flex. And you can be sure Randy Couture is still able to get in the Octagon at 47 by  using testosterone and HGH within the limits that allows him to past the drug test (well, maybe not HGH. I'm sure he goes crazy on that as I would if I were in his shoes).

You only have one life and you should use, and be able to use, any means available to enhance the quality of your life. Besides, one of the roles of government is to have a say as to what you do to others but as long as it doesn't effect anyone else what you do to yourself is nobody else's business.

good post bro,,
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: Jizzacked on July 07, 2010, 12:30:04 PM
good post bro,,

+1  pellius dropping some truth right here...
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: Schmoe Buster on July 07, 2010, 12:33:53 PM
Everything in life is a matter of degrees. You can over dose on food for chrissakes. Steroids are hormones all derived from testosterone which is produced naturally in your body. I've been on HRT for almost ten years straight. My blood work is always great. My cholesterol is actually better than before I started taking testosterone. I plan to be on it for the rest of my life or at least until I decide I don't want to keep my strength, energy, sex drive and zest for life. I wish I could get on HGH as I think that gets even more important as you approach fifty. But nowadays if you bring up this subject to the docs they act like you want them to be crack dealers.

My idea life long program would be 150-200mg weekly test, 2iu HGH daily, and 200mg week deca. I think that will keep me robust and healthy all the way into my seventies if not more. Stallone is older than Arnold but not only looks great but can do things most thirty year olds can't. And Chuck Norris turned 70 this year and still kicks ass. And I'm sure he's doing more than taking his vitamins and using Bow Flex. And you can be sure Randy Couture is still able to get in the Octagon at 47 by  using testosterone and HGH within the limits that allows him to past the drug test (well, maybe not HGH. I'm sure he goes crazy on that as I would if I were in his shoes).

You only have one life and you should use, and be able to use, any means available to enhance the quality of your life. Besides, one of the roles of government is to have a say as to what you do to others but as long as it doesn't effect anyone else what you do to yourself is nobody else's business.


X2, excellent post

can you just buy HGH off the net instead of asking the docs, it would be cheaper that way
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: drkaje on July 07, 2010, 02:41:54 PM
Everything in life is a matter of degrees. You can over dose on food for chrissakes. Steroids are hormones all derived from testosterone which is produced naturally in your body. I've been on HRT for almost ten years straight. My blood work is always great. My cholesterol is actually better than before I started taking testosterone. I plan to be on it for the rest of my life or at least until I decide I don't want to keep my strength, energy, sex drive and zest for life. I wish I could get on HGH as I think that gets even more important as you approach fifty. But nowadays if you bring up this subject to the docs they act like you want them to be crack dealers.

My idea life long program would be 150-200mg weekly test, 2iu HGH daily, and 200mg week deca. I think that will keep me robust and healthy all the way into my seventies if not more. Stallone is older than Arnold but not only looks great but can do things most thirty year olds can't. And Chuck Norris turned 70 this year and still kicks ass. And I'm sure he's doing more than taking his vitamins and using Bow Flex. And you can be sure Randy Couture is still able to get in the Octagon at 47 by  using testosterone and HGH within the limits that allows him to past the drug test (well, maybe not HGH. I'm sure he goes crazy on that as I would if I were in his shoes).

You only have one life and you should use, and be able to use, any means available to enhance the quality of your life. Besides, one of the roles of government is to have a say as to what you do to others but as long as it doesn't effect anyone else what you do to yourself is nobody else's business.


The remaining policy holders end up getting stuck if a user has kidney failure or some other equally bad outcome. There's no difference between a fatass who eats themselves into diabetic kidney failure and someone who injects test until reaching the same result when it comes time to pay medical bills.

At least people using a doctor can more carefully manage the addiction, have blood work and get higher quality gear.
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: njflex on July 07, 2010, 07:56:01 PM
X2, excellent post

can you just buy HGH off the net instead of asking the docs, it would be cheaper that way
u could and it's possible u get nailed to by the package police....i heard things tho..
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: brent2741 on July 07, 2010, 08:00:28 PM
well how long is a piece of string?
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: io856 on July 07, 2010, 08:42:43 PM

,THE DOCTORRS NOW DAYS WHO DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT HORMONES ARE ALL AMERICANOS FROM A GENERATION OF SELF ABSORD CLUELESS CRAP THAT WILL CHOSE THE EASIEST WAY OUT EVEN IF IT MEANS OPEN YOU UP INSTED OF DRAINING YOU ETC ETCLOL


gh15 approved
(http://www.hugenasser.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/surgery1.jpg)
 ;D

Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: pellius on July 07, 2010, 11:34:17 PM
u could and it's possible u get nailed to by the package police....i heard things tho..

True. I have a security clearance for my job and it's just not worth it. About 9 months ago a guy here got busted importing HGH and because he was considered a dealer he's now in jail. Well, after hearing the back story this person got together with a bunch of his friends to pull their money so they could meet the minimum order or get a better price (not 100% sure). So since he was in a sense importing and selling to others that made him a dealer. So now someone who wanted to use HGH out of his own free will and endangered nor bothered anyone is now in jail at the tax payer's expense. Wanting to stay healthy, strong and virile in this country is risky business.

Also, you just never know what you're getting when ordering over the net and I don't have the connections to know I'm not just getting HCG or rat poison from China. Besides I use USP Labs Powerfull and drink an arginine/orithinine/glutamine/gaba concoction in the middle of the night and I'm sure that's just as good -- LOL!
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: Aerian on July 07, 2010, 11:54:46 PM


EVERY mr, olympia it still alive



That is a very interesting point
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: drkaje on July 08, 2010, 03:29:11 AM
Those GH guts look really healthy and strong. :)
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: Playboy on July 08, 2010, 05:19:56 AM
Everything in life is a matter of degrees. You can over dose on food for chrissakes. Steroids are hormones all derived from testosterone which is produced naturally in your body. I've been on HRT for almost ten years straight. My blood work is always great. My cholesterol is actually better than before I started taking testosterone. I plan to be on it for the rest of my life or at least until I decide I don't want to keep my strength, energy, sex drive and zest for life. I wish I could get on HGH as I think that gets even more important as you approach fifty. But nowadays if you bring up this subject to the docs they act like you want them to be crack dealers.

My idea life long program would be 150-200mg weekly test, 2iu HGH daily, and 200mg week deca. I think that will keep me robust and healthy all the way into my seventies if not more. Stallone is older than Arnold but not only looks great but can do things most thirty year olds can't. And Chuck Norris turned 70 this year and still kicks ass. And I'm sure he's doing more than taking his vitamins and using Bow Flex. And you can be sure Randy Couture is still able to get in the Octagon at 47 by  using testosterone and HGH within the limits that allows him to past the drug test (well, maybe not HGH. I'm sure he goes crazy on that as I would if I were in his shoes).

You only have one life and you should use, and be able to use, any means available to enhance the quality of your life. Besides, one of the roles of government is to have a say as to what you do to others but as long as it doesn't effect anyone else what you do to yourself is nobody else's business.

X3. This post is dead on balls accurate and something that the idiot general public should read before pointing a finger at people for decisions they choose tom ake in their own lives.
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: EL Mariachi on July 08, 2010, 05:24:15 AM
They should lower their Advil dosage, ask tom prince
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: Figo on July 08, 2010, 06:29:35 AM
no body is gettiug pay to take drugs,,they are not drugs in many countrys but americana,,they are perfectly legal in portugal non controlled and same in turky and egypt and asia in many places,,even in americana they werent controlled when reeves used and then arnold and then the freaky dosages of dorian and jason,,,its just hormones my friend
gh15 approved

 ;D
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: Figo on July 08, 2010, 06:40:53 AM
good post bro,,

x2
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 08, 2010, 06:44:23 AM
According to ALL the mainstream media, the answer is .00000000000000000002 seconds.
Title: Re: HOW LONG CAN A BODYBUILDER BE ON GEAR WITHOUT RISKING HEALTH PROBLEMS???
Post by: Figo on July 08, 2010, 07:00:26 AM
Robby is gonna knock on my door any minute for using his pic without permission...
 
best example. 63 yrs old, a pro since 1975, and a shit load of amateur shows before that!

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