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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) => Topic started by: Captain Equipoise on July 06, 2010, 11:14:01 PM
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Hell no.... what a bunch of jealous idiots
that greedy little troll dana just had to have all the cards so he gets the fertitas to buy out the best fighting org on the planet and
scraps it... honestly, they could have just left Pride the way it was if they hadn't been so jealous.
What do you guys (except for mindspin/coltrane/stoolpshr) think ?!.. should the UFC have just left Pride alone, or even bought it out but just left it running the way it was and keep the profits ??!
I would have much preferred that the UFC and Pride had remained seperate entities..
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Hell no.... what a bunch of jealous idiots
that greedy little troll dana just had to have all the cards so he gets the fertitas to buy out the best fighting org on the planet and
scraps it... honestly, they could have just left Pride the way it was if they hadn't been so jealous.
What do you guys (except for mindspin/coltrane/stoolpshr) think ?!.. should the UFC have just left Pride alone, or even bought it out but just left it running the way it was and keep the profits ??!
I would have much preferred that the UFC and Pride had remained seperate entities..
PRIDE is gone. Get over it.
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PRIDE is gone. Get over it.
we get it already..you are in love with dana and the ufc.
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Some people here are ridiculous, its called a business. Wow, you can really tell who are the immature people with no real business interests.
Let me guess, you worked your whole life in one shitty job, working for the 'Man'.
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Hell no.... what a bunch of jealous idiots
that greedy little troll dana just had to have all the cards so he gets the fertitas to buy out the best fighting org on the planet and
scraps it... honestly, they could have just left Pride the way it was if they hadn't been so jealous.
What do you guys (except for mindspin/coltrane/stoolpshr) think ?!.. should the UFC have just left Pride alone, or even bought it out but just left it running the way it was and keep the profits ??!
I would have much preferred that the UFC and Pride had remained seperate entities..
So basically only one's that agree with CE can respond.
Self serving ass.
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So basically only one's that agree with CE can respond.
Self serving ass.
no, hes just tired of 1-2 guys with their gimmicks backing eachother up.
pride > ufc x 10
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no, hes just tired of 1-2 guys with their gimmicks backing eachother up.
pride > ufc x 10
hmmm... ac slater sticking up for CE.
MUST be a gimmick.
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Why do you guys always attack the person, instead of discussing the issue? Even if I had 100 gimmicks, was getting paid by Dana and was a crazy and delusional troll, it still wouldn't change the fact that Pride is gone, the UFC is the #1 MMA organization, Fedor lost and Brock is now ranked #1.
If you don't like any of that, discuss it instead of attacking people with an opinion that is different from yours.
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Rank #1
;D ;D
Run Brock Run
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Hell no.... what a bunch of jealous idiots
that greedy little troll dana just had to have all the cards so he gets the fertitas to buy out the best fighting org on the planet and
scraps it... honestly, they could have just left Pride the way it was if they hadn't been so jealous.
What do you guys (except for mindspin/coltrane/stoolpshr) think ?!.. should the UFC have just left Pride alone, or even bought it out but just left it running the way it was and keep the profits ??!
I would have much preferred that the UFC and Pride had remained seperate entities..
If if wasn't for a little gruop calles Yakuza it would Still be seperate.
They fucked up pride, they were rigging fights which made the owners give up on it, which made the ufc buy it.
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Rank #1
;D ;D
Run Brock Run
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it was pretty bad wasn't it. i actually laughed at that moment during the fight. i never thought he would run like that ;D i guess if carwin was punching my head in i would have been running for life too ;)
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ya pride had less rules and had more brutal knockouts... less of that gay wrestling shit that ufc has.. pride refs would break it up and make them stand up if they were gay wrestling too much.
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ya pride had less rules and had more brutal knockouts... less of that gay wrestling shit that ufc has.. pride refs would break it up and make them stand up if they were gay wrestling too much.
We can discuss PRIDE all day long, but the reality is that if they HAD played their cards right and put on good quality shows, continually, they would still be around today. Unfortunately, they didn't quite do this. At least they have the "Best of Pride" TV shows and some DVD's to remember them by.
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We can discuss PRIDE all day long, but the reality is that if they HAD played their cards right and put on good quality shows, continually, they would still be around today. Unfortunately, they didn't quite do this. At least they have the "Best of Pride" TV shows and some DVD's to remember them by.
LOL you have got to be fuckin kidding me. Pride cards were 10x more stacked than ANY ufc card this year.
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LOL you have got to be fuckin kidding me. Pride cards were 10x more stacked than ANY ufc card this year.
I can see how you feel this way, but OBVIOUSLY this was not a successful business plan in the end.
I know you disagree, but the majority of CURRENT MMA fans like the UFC's business model.
This has been proven by their success, even through rough economic times.
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LOL you have got to be fuckin kidding me. Pride cards were 10x more stacked than ANY ufc card this year.
This guy wasn't even watching MMA when PRIDE was around so I would take what he says with a grain of salt.
Cards have gotten much shittier since UFC became the dominant organization. We went from cards with multiple title fights to cards that are lucky to have one.
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This guy wasn't even watching MMA when PRIDE was around so I would take what he says with a grain of salt.
Cards have gotten much shittier since UFC became the dominant organization. We went from cards with multiple title fights to cards that are lucky to have one.
Your opinion is not the majority of today's MMA fans. Fans have shown to prefer more events, compared to hyping up one huge event a few times a year.
Sorry, but numbers and success don't lie. This model that you preferred from the past, obviously didn't work did it?
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Your opinion is not the majority of today's MMA fans. Fans have shown to prefer more events, compared to hyping up one huge event a few times a year.
Please continue pulling opinions out of your ass and trying to pass them off as fact. Got to love watching a Dana White parrot sit there and talk about things he's clueless about.
Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself moreso than usual.
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Please continue pulling opinions out of your ass and trying to pass them off as fact. Got to love watching a Dana White parrot sit there and talk about things he's clueless about.
Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself moreso than usual.
If you don't like UFC or it's fighters, then stop posting on it. It's getting annoying having to weed thru decent threads only to get to your sour grapes and mindless drivel on how bad the UFC is.
If you don't like it, don't watch it.. and don't post on it.
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We can discuss PRIDE all day long, but the reality is that if they HAD played their cards right and put on good quality shows, continually, they would still be around today. Unfortunately, they didn't quite do this. At least they have the "Best of Pride" TV shows and some DVD's to remember them by.
so you're telling me cards that had multiple title fights (not just one like ufc) and at least 7 - 8 fights (5 on a ufc card) weren't quality ::)
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If you don't like UFC or it's fighters, then stop posting on it. It's getting annoying having to weed thru decent threads only to get to your sour grapes and mindless drivel on how bad the UFC is.
If you don't like it, don't watch it.. and don't post on it.
This isn't a UFC board, Cockspin. :-*
so you're telling me cards that had multiple title fights (not just one like ufc) and at least 7 - 8 fights (5 on a ufc card) weren't quality ::)
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I can't believe this retard is sitting there and actually arguing that people prefer cards with 1 title fight to cards with multiple title fights. He should read over the bullet points Dana White sends him and formulate a better fairy tale. ::)
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Please continue pulling opinions out of your ass and trying to pass them off as fact. Got to love watching a Dana White parrot sit there and talk about things he's clueless about.
Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself moreso than usual.
Your opinion is a minority.
If I am wrong, why is the UFC so successful?
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Your opinion is a minority.
If I am wrong, why is the UFC so successful?
Seriously, give it a rest. You're just embarrassing yourself at this point.
No one with an IQ over 40 prefers cards with one title fight to cards with multiple title fights. It's not even debatable so just move along, gimmick.
Firing away on all cylinders today, Cockspin. Going for a 100+ post day across your 7+ accounts? ::)
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so you're telling me cards that had multiple title fights (not just one like ufc) and at least 7 - 8 fights (5 on a ufc card) weren't quality ::)
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Never said they weren't all quality, just said that the PRIDE business model needed improvement.
You might hate the changes the UFC has made to MMA, but like I said previously, your opinions are really a minority.
Hard to dispute when you have one company being VERY successful, and another that couldn't hack it, and eventually sold out.
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Seriously, give it a rest. You're just embarrassing yourself at this point.
No one with an IQ over 40 prefers cards with one title fight to cards with multiple title fights. It's not even debatable so just move along, gimmick.
Firing away on all cylinders today, Cockspin. Going for a 100+ post day across your 7+ accounts? ::)
Please answer...you must have overlooked this question:
If I am wrong, why is the UFC so successful?
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Please answer...you must have overlooked this question:
If I am wrong, why is the UFC so successful?
Because, until recently, there was nothing else, gimmick. I know you're a TUF fanboy and borderline retarded, but anyone who has been watching MMA for longer than a year (aka not you) can see that the quality of cards has fallen tremendously over the years. Let's not forget the article ChuteBoxe posted a few months ago showing that a lot of these UFC cards do jack shit in terms of PPV buys. Why is that, I wonder? ::)
And why is the UFC cancelling events for the first time if it's doing so well? LOL. Your meltdowns on that topic were pretty entertaining.
Don't worry, though. Your vested interest is safe for now. Carry on pulling talking points off the press release Dana e-mails you every week. ;)
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LOL you have got to be fuckin kidding me. Pride cards were 10x more stacked than ANY ufc card this year.
That is debatable. But keep in mind, the UFC is putting on 15+ shows per year. How many did Pride average?
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Because, until recently, there was nothing else, gimmick. I know you're a TUF fanboy and borderline retarded, but anyone who has been watching MMA for longer than a year (aka not you) can see that the quality of cards has fallen tremendously over the years. Let's not forget the article ChuteBoxe posted a few months ago showing that a lot of these UFC cards do jack shit in terms of PPV buys. Why is that, I wonder? ::)
And why is the UFC cancelling events for the first time if it's doing so well? LOL. Your meltdowns on that topic were pretty entertaining.
Don't worry, though. Your vested interest is safe for now. Carry on pulling talking points off the press release Dana e-mails you every week. ;)
Until recently there was nothing else??? WTF? If anything there were more PREVIOUSLY!
You ever heard of Affliction, Elite-XC, WFA, PRO-Elite, IFL, just to name a FEW that tried to compete and couldn't stay in business.
Epic lack of MMA knowledge displayed in your post.
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Because, until recently, there was nothing else, gimmick. I know you're a TUF fanboy and borderline retarded, but anyone who has been watching MMA for longer than a year (aka not you) can see that the quality of cards has fallen tremendously over the years. Let's not forget the article ChuteBoxe posted a few months ago showing that a lot of these UFC cards do jack shit in terms of PPV buys. Why is that, I wonder? ::)
And why is the UFC cancelling events for the first time if it's doing so well? LOL. Your meltdowns on that topic were pretty entertaining.
Don't worry, though. Your vested interest is safe for now. Carry on pulling talking points off the press release Dana e-mails you every week. ;)
You keep resorting to making stuff up. That is self ownage right there my friend.
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Until recently there was nothing else??? WTF? If anything there were more PREVIOUSLY!
You ever heard of Affliction, Elite-XC, WFA, PRO-Elite, IFL, just to name a FEW that tried to compete and couldn't stay in business.
Epic lack of MMA knowledge displayed in your post.
LOL! Even more ownage. Seriously BF, you see angry and spiteful. Why are you even here ???
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LOL! Even more ownage. Seriously BF, you see angry and spiteful. Why are you even here ???
Why are you here? It's not like you and your 7+ gimmicks are MMA fans. You're UFC fanboys who are incapable of discussing anything outside of the UFC and exist to derail any thread not involving your UFC heroes.
Maybe you should talk to Ron about starting a UFC sub-forum so the rest of us can discuss the actual sport and not one of the organizations involved in it. ::)
By the way, posting on your gimmick and then calling an owning on your main account 20 minutes later is about as sad as it gets.
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Why are you here? It's not like you and your 7+ gimmicks are MMA fans. You're UFC fanboys who are incapable of discussing anything outside of the UFC and exist to derail any thread not involving your UFC heroes.
Maybe you should talk to Ron about starting a UFC sub-forum so the rest of us can discuss the actual sport and not one of the organizations involved in it. ::)
By the way, posting on your gimmick and then calling an owning on your main account 20 minutes later is about as sad as it gets.
So care to defend yourself about saying that "until recently" there was no competition?
BTW...you are in violation of the rules of this board. If this board makes you so angry, maybe you should end it all and beat it.
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BF:
You've gotten to be one of the most annoying posters on here. EVERYTHING you write is an attack or a slam on UFC or anyone that likes it. You used to post decent things.
I am not a gimmick of Mindspin. Go read some of my early posts from years ago. I've been in spats with him. We just happen to both like UFC.
You keep claiming he has gimmicks, but in reality, it's just an excuse of yours to downplay the fact that many on here like UFC and think they're fighters are quality.
Please. For the sake of other readers of this thread, Stop posting garbage.
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BF:
You've gotten to be one of the most annoying posters on here. EVERYTHING you write is an attack or a slam on UFC or anyone that likes it. You used to post decent things.
I am not a gimmick of Mindspin. Go read some of my early posts from years ago. I've been in spats with him. We just happen to both like UFC.
You keep claiming he has gimmicks, but in reality, it's just an excuse of yours to downplay the fact that many on here like UFC and think they're fighters are quality.
Please. For the sake of other readers of this thread, Stop posting garbage.
Agree...
Plus I suggest you stop all the lies and attacks. It is against the rules set forth for this board.
IMO if you don't clean up your act, a banning might fix your problem.
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1. I have no gimmicks. This has already been proven.
2. It's difficult to discuss anything outside the UFC, since the UFC has all the top fighters and is pretty much all of MMA. That said, I love Bellator and plan on posting more once the new tournament starts.
3. Again, you seem angry. All you ever do is insult people. This board is probably not good for your health. You should avoid it.
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Please answer...you must have overlooked this question:
If I am wrong, why is the UFC so successful?
because they are the Walmart of MMA and use the same marketing tactics as the recording industry does to promote its pop stars. They are very good at marketing I will give them that, but their product sucks.
Doesnt matter though, sheep will buy a product even if it sucks as long as it is marketed as the 'hip' and 'cool' thing to be doing.
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That is debatable. But keep in mind, the UFC is putting on 15+ shows per year. How many did Pride average?
exactly right, 15+ shows is far too many. If they did 1 show every 2 months, totaling 6 per year, each card could easily have multiple title fights. There would also be alot more hype leading into the cards.
UFC is causing inflation of their ppv's by putting on to many shows, the result being severely watered down cards filled with no-namers fighting and maybe 1 title fight if you are lucky. Boring and nowhere worth its $45 price tag.
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because they are the Walmart of MMA and use the same marketing tactics as the recording industry does to promote its pop stars. They are very good at marketing I will give them that, but their product sucks.
Doesnt matter though, sheep will buy a product even if it sucks as long as it is marketed as the 'hip' and 'cool' thing to be doing.
So are you saying that the UFC is CONTINUALLY fooling all it's fans several times a month? Every month of the year?
Not even sheep are that stupid.
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exactly right, 15+ shows is far too many. If they did 1 show every 2 months, totaling 6 per year, each card could easily have multiple title fights. There would also be alot more hype leading into the cards.
UFC is causing inflation of their ppv's by putting on to many shows, the result being severely watered down cards filled with no-namers fighting and maybe 1 title fight if you are lucky. Boring and nowhere worth its $45 price tag.
If you follow the sport, there are not too many no-namers being shown on PPV's.
You really need to get past the old PRIDE business model and UFC hate.
The UFC is the only relevant org out there. Don't really know what you want out of MMA these days, when obviously what you want does not exist.
I got tired of the BS in other sports, and don't follow them as closely as I used to. Nothing wrong with the sports, its just times have changed.
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Never said they weren't all quality, just said that the PRIDE business model needed improvement.
You might hate the changes the UFC has made to MMA, but like I said previously, your opinions are really a minority.
Hard to dispute when you have one company being VERY successful, and another that couldn't hack it, and eventually sold out.
so with this logic mcdonalds is the best restaurant in the world, right?
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Please answer...you must have overlooked this question:
If I am wrong, why is the UFC so successful?
marketing, promotion, being in the US, national reality tv show
if it wasn't for tuf, ufc would've disappeared before pride
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You are partially right Earl. At one time, the UFC was no better than Pride. Both had good & bad fighters. Both had good & bad cards. However, the UFC did a much better job of marketing their fights, and created a much better product. As a result, they got a bigger audience and more revenue. And with more revenue, they stomped on or gobbled up the competition. Today, they have ALL of the top fighters, thus, they have they best cards. With all of the best fighters under one roof, we will get to the all of the match-ups that everyone wants to see. That's exciting!!!
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That is debatable. But keep in mind, the UFC is putting on 15+ shows per year. How many did Pride average?
true. i have said many times that the ufc should cut the number of shows by half and start putting together better cards. i done watching the ufc for a while i can;t remember the last ufc that i watched thinking it wasn;t a big waste of my time
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so with this logic mcdonalds is the best restaurant in the world, right?
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Does McDonalds have all the #1 ranked foods in the world?
Besides, this is really a pears and carrots comparison.
It would be like trying to prove that baseball is the best SPORT int he world? Or is soccer?
Much too vague. Maybe you should think about your question a little more before making a fool of yourself.
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marketing, promotion, being in the US, national reality tv show
if it wasn't for tuf, ufc would've disappeared before pride
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OK....so this is negative for some reason?
You are knocking them for successfully selling/building a product?
Do you think if the UFC was such a sham, people would continue to support it, even through rough economic times?
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Does McDonalds have all the #1 ranked foods in the world?
Besides, this is really a pears and carrots comparison.
It would be like trying to prove that baseball is the best SPORT int he world? Or is soccer?
Much too vague. Maybe you should think about your question a little more before making a fool of yourself.
haha you would no better than anybody what it is like to be a fool
and yes based on sales i'm willing to bet a big mac is ranked pretty high :)
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OK....so this is negative for some reason?
You are knocking them for successfully selling/building a product?
Do you think if the UFC was such a sham, people would continue to support it, even through rough economic times?
i told you why pride is gone and ufc is still here
i don't know how to say that in a "positive" way that will satisfy you
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i told you why pride is gone and ufc is still here
i don't know how to say that in a "positive" way that will satisfy you
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Earl, in all seriousness, why do you even post on the board.
The UFC is the main event these days and Strikeforce is trying their best to mimick the success of the UFC.
Why do you even follow MMA anymore?
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Earl, in all seriousness, why do you even post on the board.
The UFC is the main event these days and Strikeforce is trying their best to mimick the success of the UFC.
Why do you even follow MMA anymore?
for the same reason i follow bodybuilding
the "good ol days" hooked me in and i can't let go
you've only been following mma since the tuf finale, so you may feel the same down the road :)
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for the same reason i follow bodybuilding
the "good ol days" hooked me in and i can't let go
you've only been following mma since the tuf finale, so you may feel the same down the road :)
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Ok...at least you admit it. I respect that.
Even if I did start watching the UFC at the TUF1 finale, that would make it almost 6 years in January.
That is a good amount of time Earl.
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That is debatable. But keep in mind, the UFC is putting on 15+ shows per year. How many did Pride average?
Well there's your problem !?!
that greedy bitch dana, took the UFC from a watchable 6-8 cards a year to a nauseating 15+ cards a year.. that's over 1 a month, sometimes 2... he's spreading the fighters way too thin... that's why we get shit fights and nothing the fans really wanna see.
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Well there's your problem !?!
that greedy bitch dana, took the UFC from a watchable 6-8 cards a year to a nauseating 15+ cards a year.. that's over 1 a month, sometimes 2... he's spreading the fighters way too thin... that's why we get shit fights and nothing the fans really wanna see.
According to Cockspin and his gimmick, most fans would rather watch a card with 1 title fight instead of 2-3+ title fights. ::)
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According to Cockspin and his gimmick, most fans would rather watch a card with 1 title fight instead of 2-3+ title fights. ::)
LOL, of course because we all want to see 8 matches of absolute nobodies or guys who just started fighting a year ago (oh wait, brock)
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According to Cockspin and his gimmick, most fans would rather watch a card with 1 title fight instead of 2-3+ title fights. ::)
According to the success of the UFC, people are happy with the way the UFC runs things.
I have a question, if you don't like the UFC, and Strikeforce mimics the UFC, why are you here? and why do you even follow MMA?
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Well there's your problem !?!
that greedy bitch dana, took the UFC from a watchable 6-8 cards a year to a nauseating 15+ cards a year.. that's over 1 a month, sometimes 2... he's spreading the fighters way too thin... that's why we get shit fights and nothing the fans really wanna see.
Fans don't want to watch the UFC? Really?
If you don't watch the UFC, what do you watch?
And what do you watch in between NON-UFC events....Pride DVD's?
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LOL, of course because we all want to see 8 matches of absolute nobodies or guys who just started fighting a year ago (oh wait, brock)
If you actually followed the sport, they wouldn't be nobodies.
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If you actually followed the sport, they wouldn't be nobodies.
haha please. they are fucking nobodies and you know it.
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Ok...at least you admit it. I respect that.
Even if I did start watching the UFC at the TUF1 finale, that would make it almost 6 years in January.
That is a good amount of time Earl.
not long enough to see how much better pride shows were
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Hell no.... what a bunch of jealous idiots
that greedy little troll dana just had to have all the cards so he gets the fertitas to buy out the best fighting org on the planet and
scraps it... honestly, they could have just left Pride the way it was if they hadn't been so jealous.
What do you guys (except for mindspin/coltrane/stoolpshr) think ?!.. should the UFC have just left Pride alone, or even bought it out but just left it running the way it was and keep the profits ??!
I would have much preferred that the UFC and Pride had remained seperate entities..
If PRIDE was doing so great financially with such a huge fanbase, they would have never sold out to UFC.
Could UFC open a seperate org in Japan with PRIDE rules and still operate fully legal in the US?