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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) => Topic started by: spinnis on July 07, 2010, 09:46:12 AM
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Brock lesnar. Big Nog, Fedor
boom
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Brock lesnar. Big Nog, Fedor
boom
lol. All in due time young grasshopper. All in due time.
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Brock lesnar. Big Nog, Fedor
Cain will knock him out
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Cain will knock him out
lol!
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Cain will knock him out
Maybe a TKO, but i doubt a KO.
Ground n pound perhaps.
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Cain will knock him out
Cain couldn't knock out Kongo. I'm not on the Cain bandwagon but JDS, thats another animal.
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Cain couldn't knock out Kongo. I'm not on the Cain bandwagon but JDS, thats another animal.
Hell yeah! JDS could KTFO out of lesnar.
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Cain will knock him out
Hell yeah! JDS could KTFO out of lesnar.
Everyone said the same thing about Carwin.
LMAO, why can't people just watch the fights and LOL after they are over?
The Brock hate is here is strong. ;D
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Everyone said the same thing about Carwin.
LMAO, why can't people just watch the fights and LOL after they are over?
The Brock hate is here is strong. ;D
Actually, I really like Brock. I just think he showed his weakness in his latest fight which is stand up. Cain will out strike him, and he won't gas out. The key in that fight is him defending Brock's takedowns. If he manages to do that, his chances are excellent.
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No one is beating Brock now, and no one will dispute that he is the champion right now. But, in time, as any great fighter does, it will be tougher to retain the title.
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this is a stupid debate. if he gets hit on the chin he will go out..it will eventually happen
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No one is beating Brock now, and no one will dispute that he is the champion right now. But, in time, as any great fighter does, it will be tougher to retain the title.
No way Ron, there are too many real good legit HW's out there for one not to catch Brock...Couture almost beat him ffs!!!
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If Brock is such a 'badass' and so 'tough' why doesn't he put out an open challenge to ANY hw , ANYWHERE !??!
I would then consider him legit and take him seriously but if dana protects him now and feeds him guys that don't have a chance of beating him then we'll all see how bullshit everything is.
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If Brock is such a 'badass' and so 'tough' why doesn't he put out an open challenge to ANY hw , ANYWHERE !??!
hahahahahahah
you're funny at least ;D
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I thought it was pretty common knowledge that Brock had been kayoed his fair share of times sparring. I'm not saying he'll get blasted by Cain but saying someone cannot get knocked out is laughable.
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If Brock is such a 'badass' and so 'tough' why doesn't he put out an open challenge to ANY hw , ANYWHERE !??!
I would then consider him legit and take him seriously but if dana protects him now and feeds him guys that don't have a chance of beating him then we'll all see how bullshit everything is.
Brock has to fight people that are not afraid of the UFC signed with the UFC, which happens to be mostly of the top HW's anyways.
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I thought it was pretty common knowledge that Brock had been kayoed his fair share of times sparring. I'm not saying he'll get blasted by Cain but saying someone cannot get knocked out is laughable.
Please, if this is common knowledge, can you post sources for proof.
Thanks!
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If Brock is such a 'badass' and so 'tough' why doesn't he put out an open challenge to ANY hw , ANYWHERE !??!
I would then consider him legit and take him seriously but if dana protects him now and feeds him guys that don't have a chance of beating him then we'll all see how bullshit everything is.
Ok. I've heard it all.
Ever heard of a fight contract? Taking a fight "anywhere/anytime" would make his contract voidable.
Really THINK before you post dude. Just looking out for your rep around here. ;D
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Brock came within an inch of getting KO'ed. Carwin completely gassed 4 minutes into the fight.
For Brock, he really needs to work on a lot of things. His conditioning and movement are good for a big man. He has a granite chin. His defense is lacking. He should at least have wrapped Carwin up when he was in trouble, buying himself recovery time. He had no answer at all but to turtle up. He couldn't take Carwin down in the first round and it seems he had no plan B. His guard was a joke. His hands didn't land at all while Carwin was teeing off. If he pulls the same performance against Cain who can actually last more then one round, he's in deep trouble.
Hopefully he develops a lot more skills the next couple of years. Hats off to Brock for the submission though. He could have easily smashed Carwin's face in once he had the mount but finished off the fight in style.
As for Carwin, his weakness has been exposed. All the guys will run for a round or two (if they can) to gas him. The fight was 5 rounds and he couldn't last 1. Reminds me of Mark Coleman when he started losing in the UFC years ago. People would survive the storm, watch him gas, and ko him.
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It will be interesting to see if anyone else has the explosiveness & power to put Lesnar on his back, like Carwin did...
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It will be interesting to see if anyone else has the explosiveness & power to put Lesnar on his back, like Carwin did...
People are making it seem like Brock stood and traded bombs with Carwin for 5 minutes and ate 1000 flush shots on the chin. Newsflash....A punch grazed him and he ran and threw himself on the floor shelled up in a fetal position. Brock put himself on his back, he got a takedown stuffed and got grazed then he shit his pants. Brock just showed that he'll fold if he has trouble taking you down and if punches are flying at him. There are 2 HW's right now that have these capabilities in the UFC, and they won't gas once Brock fakes a heart attack again.
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Please, if this is common knowledge, can you post sources for proof.
Thanks!
Ask Brett Rogers, he used to train with Brock and he put him out.
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People are making it seem like Brock stood and traded bombs with Carwin for 5 minutes and ate 1000 flush shots on the chin. Newsflash....A punch grazed him and he ran and threw himself on the floor shelled up in a fetal position. Brock put himself on his back, he got a takedown stuffed and got grazed then he shit his pants. Brock just showed that he'll fold if he has trouble taking you down and if punches are flying at him. There are 2 HW's right now that have these capabilities in the UFC, and they won't gas once Brock fakes a heart attack again.
Epic biased hate for the #1 ranked HW in the world.
Styles make fights, and one thing that nobody can compete with is Brock's determination, size and strength.
Velasquez is a warrior for sure, but it will be hard to compete with such a huge strength and size disadvantage.
But Cain is fast for a HW, so you never know. Just really don't see anyone overpowering Brock in any way whatsoever.
Another HUGE factor is Brock is still learning and growing as an MMA fighter. That is scary to think about.
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Ask Brett Rogers, he used to train with Brock and he put him out.
Source please? Or we will assume this is just a rumor.
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Epic biased hate for the #1 ranked HW in the world.
Styles make fights, and one thing that nobody can compete with is Brock's determination, size and strength.
Velasquez is a warrior for sure, but it will be hard to compete with such a huge strength and size disadvantage.
But Cain is fast for a HW, so you never know. Just really don't see anyone overpowering Brock in any way whatsoever.
Another HUGE factor is Brock is still learning and growing as an MMA fighter. That is scary to think about.
I like Cain ... but I agree.. I don't thnik he will beat Lesnar. To think at UFC 99 Cain and Kongo went to a decision doesn't bode well for Cain.
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And who has Brock Ko'd? ;D
Dude you know your boy got lucky, but a wins a win.
But just like Brock learned from his first fight with Mir, the same will go for Carwin When Dana feels like Brock needs to lose.
IMO there were a couple different times they should of stopped the fight in the first round, but just like Shogun in his first fight with Machida.............He got robbed, Nikka! :P
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And who has Brock Ko'd? ;D
Dude you know your boy got lucky, but a wins a win.
But just like Brock learned from his first fight with Mir, the same will go for Carwin When Dana feels like Brock needs to lose.
IMO there were a couple different times they should of stopped the fight in the first round, but just like Shogun in his first fight with Machida.............He got robbed, Nikka! :P
If only Carwin hadn't have gassed, I feel he is the only guy that stands a chance against Brock. He recently explained that he got overcome with adrenaline when he kept hearing Rosenthal say that he was going to stop the fight. Carwin explained that he kept putting everything into finishing the fight the multiple times Rosenthal said this.
Anyone will gas under that type of emotional downpour.
Hopfully, next time Carwin will be a little more calm in his approach.
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Epic biased hate for the #1 ranked HW in the world.
Styles make fights, and one thing that nobody can compete with is Brock's determination, size and strength.
Velasquez is a warrior for sure, but it will be hard to compete with such a huge strength and size disadvantage.
But Cain is fast for a HW, so you never know. Just really don't see anyone overpowering Brock in any way whatsoever.
Another HUGE factor is Brock is still learning and growing as an MMA fighter. That is scary to think about.
Brock's done about all the learning he can do in the wrestling department, and from a stand up point of view, he's scared to get hit, and that's something you either have or you don't, you can't learn balls. You say styles make fights, yet ive never seen you once predict a fight that way. You always resort to "according to sherdog, so n so is ranked #2 so he would definately beat #5".
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;D
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Brock's done about all the learning he can do in the wrestling department, and from a stand up point of view, he's scared to get hit, and that's something you either have or you don't, you can't learn balls. You say styles make fights, yet ive never seen you once predict a fight that way. You always resort to "according to sherdog, so n so is ranked #2 so he would definately beat #5".
Thanks for offering your opinion...but you can't tell me Brock doesn't have balls.
Doesn't really matter what a wannabe internet coach thinks anyways...he had his hand raised and showed he can take a punch.
That being said, I have included multiple links PROVING Fedor is not on the P4P list as well as nowhere near the #1 HW ranking.
Sorry, but there are more sources around besides Sherdog.
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Thanks for offering your opinion...but you can't tell me Brock doesn't have balls.
Doesn't really matter what a wannabe internet coach thinks anyways...he had his hand raised and showed he can take a punch.
Brocks boxing coach said in his postfight interview himself, you either have it or you don't (in reference to being able to fireback in traiffic). Brock clearly dosen't have that, it dosent take a rocket scientist to see that he's afraid to get hit. Go back to reading top ten lists and not knowing shit about how the actual game works son. What's with you and Fedor? You are even more obsessed with him than you are with Dana, and I didn't think that was possible.
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They should duct tape Brocks eyes open and hit him repeatedly in the face until he "gets it".
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Ok. I've heard it all.
Ever heard of a fight contract? Taking a fight "anywhere/anytime" would make his contract voidable.
Really THINK before you post dude. Just looking out for your rep around here. ;D
Yeah and when all the heat was on Fedor, everyone was bitching because he didn't want to sign with the ufc.. for you guys it's all about the ufc, not the fighters, you use the same bullshit arguement in both cases...
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I thought it was pretty common knowledge that Brock had been kayoed his fair share of times sparring
hahahaha, so what you're saying is that hes gotten hit harder in Sparring then in the Carwin Fight? (because the fight didn't ko him)
hahahaha, so hes sparring with some unknown champ of the world that hits harder then every man on earth? ;D
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Brocks boxing coach said in his postfight interview himself, you either have it or you don't (in reference to being able to fireback in traiffic). Brock clearly dosen't have that, it dosent take a rocket scientist to see that he's afraid to get hit. Go back to reading top ten lists and not knowing shit about how the actual game works son. What's with you and Fedor? You are even more obsessed with him than you are with Dana, and I didn't think that was possible.
Ok...so maybe his stand-up is a weakess. Thanks for pointing that out Sherlock ::)
Regardless, I really don't think Brock is afraid of too much in the octagon.
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Epic biased hate for the #1 ranked HW in the world.
#1 ranked in the world with 6 fights, one of them being a loss.
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#1 ranked in the world with 6 fights, one of them being a loss.
Pretty amazing isn't it....Never again in our lives will we see such greatness.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
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Pretty amazing isn't it....Never again in our lives will we see such greatness.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
pretty easy to synthetically manufacture a ranking like that when one is given a title shot after 2 fights (one of which was a loss) against a 46 year old man who hadnt fought in over a year and was already overrated as hell thanks to ufc marketing tactics.
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pretty easy to synthetically manufacture a ranking like that when one is given a title shot after 2 fights (one of which was a loss) against a 46 year old man who hadnt fought in over a year and was already overrated as hell thanks to ufc marketing tactics.
Maybe I am mistaken, but he just beat a top contender in a signifigant manner. Sorry that is not good enough for you, but it IS good enough for a #1 ranking in all HW polls.
Too bad for you huh?
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pretty easy to synthetically manufacture a ranking like that when one is given a title shot after 2 fights (one of which was a loss) against a 46 year old man who hadnt fought in over a year and was already overrated as hell thanks to ufc marketing tactics.
;D
Sad, really.
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Maybe I am mistaken, but he just beat a top contender in a signifigant manner. Sorry that is not good enough for you, but it IS good enough for a #1 ranking in all HW polls.
Too bad for you huh?
Pretty sad that the "#1 contender" he just beat couldnt even fight for 5mins without running out of gas. He was getting brutalized until carwin gassed.
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Pretty sad that the "#1 contender" he just beat couldnt even fight for 5mins without running out of gas. He was getting brutalized until carwin gassed.
If it's so sad, stop watching. Easy really.
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If it's so sad, stop watching. Easy really.
if that is the best comeback you have to my post, you are owned ;D
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if that is the best comeback you have to my post, you are owned ;D
Comeback to what?
I am 100% serious...Why do you even watch the UFC HW's or anything UFC, when all you do is bitch about it.
Besides, you will never own anything about me. This is a message board, I could care less about anything other than discussing current MMA topics.
Internet reputation, credibility, and overall persona is LITERALLY WORTHLESS on a message board. Never make it bigger then it is.
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Yeah and when all the heat was on Fedor, everyone was bitching because he didn't want to sign with the ufc.. for you guys it's all about the ufc, not the fighters, you use the same bullshit arguement in both cases...
There is a difference between fighting in tiny, unskilled organizations (FEDOR) and fighting in the UFC (Lesnar).
Lesnar is fighting the very best. You can't argue that. There are other orgs out there that do have skilled fighters, but when it comes down to having the most talent, the UFC is tops.
You can't deny that. Doing so is pure stupidity.
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#1 ranked in the world with 6 fights, one of them being a loss.
That's right. Rankings are a snapshot in time. You don't need a long record to be considered the best at any given point. At this point. Brock is the best. It doesn't matter how many cans Fedor beat over the last 15 years. He just lost, so he is just not the best...
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How does anyine know who has the most talented fighters? How many fighters are there in each organization? Becos maybe a couple couldnt allegedly 'cut it' in one it means the whole place is full of shitty fighters.The only thing i notice is UFC gets more publicity which doesnt mean a product is the best ( Muscletech,BSN for bodybuilding purposes ;) )
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How does anyine know who has the most talented fighters? How many fighters are there in each organization? Becos maybe a couple couldnt allegedly 'cut it' in one it means the whole place is full of shitty fighters.The only thing i notice is UFC gets more publicity which doesnt mean a product is the best ( Muscletech,BSN for bodybuilding purposes ;) )
MMA rankings will show you what MMA org has the most talented fighters. They usually include all orgs in the rankings.
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Let Tyson stick one on his chin then well see