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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: johnnynoname on July 11, 2010, 03:29:37 AM
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Before I start, I want to say that i'm not a believer that kettlebells are the "say all and end all" when it comes to fitness. So, don't confuse me with one of those "New Age" trainer-types who use nothing but kettlebells and exercise balls and denounce any type "old school" training protocol
I notice that there is a bit of "kettlebell hate" on here
Now, I agree that the fact that kettlebells are going "mainstream" is a bit much as of late. I mean, they have been in existence for a LONG time and now a bunch of johnny come latelys are pretending they are innovative cuz the just discovered them now.
However, that aside, I believe that kettlebells (done either in a circuit or Tabata style) are a more effectivce cardio workout than the tried and true " 2 one hour sessions a day on a treadmill walking on a very slow incline"
Chime in on this
then again, what do I care- I'm just gonna watch porn and hit on girls on plenty of fish all day long......then i'm gonna play "red dead redemption"
....then, I'm gonna go tanning
...oh, and I have to TiVo "To Catch a Predator" on MSNBC tonight
...Fuck, it's sunday- I have to go see my mom then go to my dads and stay in there "good graces" so i can stay in their respective wills
oh, yeah- talk about kettlebells
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Before I start, I want to say that i'm not a believer that kettlebells are the "say all and end all" when it comes to fitness. So, don't confuse me with one of those "New Age" trainer-types who use nothing but kettlebells and exercise balls and denounce any type "old school" training protocol
I notice that there is a bit of "kettlebell hate" on here
Now, I agree that the fact that kettlebells are going "mainstream" is a bit much as of late. I mean, they have been in existence for a LONG time and now a bunch of johnny come latelys are pretending they are innovative cuz the just discovered them now.
However, that aside, I believe that kettlebells (done either in a circuit or Tabata style) are a more effectivce cardio workout than the tried and true " 2 one hour sessions a day on a treadmill walking on a very slow incline"
Chime in on this
then again, what do I care- I'm just gonna watch porn and hit on girls on plenty of fish all day long......then i'm gonna play "red dead redemption"
....then, I'm gonna go tanning
...oh, and I have to TiVo "To Catch a Predator" on MSNBC tonight
...Fuck, it's sunday- I have to go see my mom then go to my dads and stay in there "good graces" so i can stay in their respective wills
oh, yeah- talk about kettlebells
I used to refer to them as exspensive dumbbells but they have their place in training.
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I dropped one on my toe so a love/hate relationship occured.
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People hate KB cause they don't know how to use them and the personal trainer touting them right now all act like they just discovered something new. Its a lame tactic.
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When I sold them, 90% of the people who came in to buy them had no idea they had been around for years...
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When I sold them, 90% of the people who came in to buy them had no idea they had been around for years...
X2 hell John Grimek used them didnt he.
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People hate KB cause they don't know how to use them and the personal trainer touting them right now all act like they just discovered something new. Its a lame tactic.
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and the personal trainer touting them right now all act like they just discovered something new. Its a lame tactic.
I, 1000%, agree with this
my hairy uncles were using kettlebells back around WWII and these homo personal trainers pretend they discovered something new
btw, i see the irony in the above statement
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I, 1000%, agree with this
my hairy uncles were using kettlebells back around WWII and these homo personal trainers pretend they discovered something new
btw, i see the irony in the above statement
Are you saying Goodrum might tell people these are "cutting edge technology"?
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I, 1000%, agree with this
my hairy uncles were using kettlebells back around WWII and these homo personal trainers pretend they discovered something new
btw, i see the irony in the above statement
Everything old is new again, and they are doing a old tactic in repackaging something. Don't know how good it would be, but I'm pretty good on selling people on things, I would just say, "This is a 'old school' way of training. Old school is synonymous to "hardcore", or "realness", so people think that they are getting the realness, the rawness, of the 40s---50s. Kinda like fiberglass bodied hotrods.
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Good topic: They certainly have their place when used properly. All things in moderation.
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i think it is because most of the exercises can be done with dumbbells.
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People hate KB cause they don't know how to use them and the personal trainer touting them right now all act like they just discovered something new. Its a lame tactic.
It's true, we have some knucklehead trainer at our gym who is actually teaching KB classes....he just learned about KB's about 6 months ago and now he's an expert. Now I see some of "students" with scap and shoulder problems not to mention bruised up wrists. Go's back to the article I posted on blog that Vince G. had a fit over.
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I've never used them, but I would like to try them sometime for some intense cardio session.
For muscle building I'd much rather stick to the basic weights (dumbells and barbells) and some machines.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20300022
Provides a very intense cardio workout.
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I don't really see the point of using them over dumbells
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I don't really see the point of using them over dumbells
They shouldn't be used to take the place of DB's.
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They shouldn't be used to take the place of DB's.
i agree 100 percent
I'm saying that kettlebells (especially when used in a tabata circuit) is way better cardio than the slow paced, long duration treadmill walks that are the staple of many cutting phases
btw, Coach I don't expect you to agree with me as you have stated that you don't care for KB's anyway
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i agree 100 percent
I'm saying that kettlebells (especially when used in a tabata circuit) is way better cardio than the slow paced, long duration treadmill walks that are the staple of many cutting phases
btw, Coach I don't expect you to agree with me as you have stated that you don't care for KB's anyway
Not really but we do use them for some basic movements like double swings, single arm swings and turkish get-ups. Usually incorporating them in some kind of energy system circuit once or twice a week or so. We always do metabolic training at the end of the weight workout and when we don't have time for sprints, prowler or sled work, we will do a tabata.
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Not really but we do use them for some basic movements like double swings, single arm swings and turkish get-ups. Usually incorporating them in some kind of energy system circuit once or twice a week or so. We always do metabolic training at the end of the weight workout and when we don't have time for sprints, prowler or sled work, we will do a tabata.
lol at "energy system" work
I know Christian Thibideau uses that term
So, do you get to use that term instead of " cardio" when you get your degree in Strength and Conditioning, right?
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lol at "energy system" work
I know Christian Thibideau uses that term
So, do you get to use that term instead of " cardio" when you get your degree in Strength and Conditioning, right?
Lots of people use that term because thats what it is. Some use "Energy system" some use "Metabolic" some use "cardio".
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Cardio
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Cardio
Awesome, I could watch that all day.
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Not a single person here could do what this twink does.
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Not a single person here could do what this twink does.
Nor would I want to. I want my 3:59 back.
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Nor would I want to. I want my 3:59 back.
hahahaaa That guy is better conditioned than all of your "athletes" put together!!
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Not a single person here could do what this twink does.
Damn impressive that toupee he is wearing gives away a high testostrone level. Hence hair loss.
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hahahaaa That guy is better conditioned than all of your "athletes" put together!!
Yeah, unless he can run on hands....I doubt it ::)
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Yeah, unless he can run on hands....I doubt it ::)
Name one of your guys that can do what he does in that video.
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Name one of your guys that can do what he does in that video.
None, I try to avoid getting injuries.
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None, I try to avoid getting injuries.
LOL, now kettlebells are going to cause injuries? I bet they have some pink ones your guys could use. ;D
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seem gimmicky
pushups sprints chinups situps
but then again the world is fulla cool gimmicks like fake tits
how can I hate?
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seem gimmicky
Yes you do.
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LOL, now kettlebells are going to cause injuries? I bet they have some pink ones your guys could use. ;D
Wrists, shoulder (labrem) specifically, low back. I'm only talking high rep movements and mostly over use injuries.
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Wrists, shoulder (labrem) specifically, low back. I'm only talking high rep movements and mostly over use injuries.
Any exercise can cause injury if done wrong. Wait until one of your douches drops a tire on his ankle or sprains his wrist shaking those ropes..........then will those will be too dangerous to use? ::)
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Any exercise can cause injury if done wrong. Wait until one of your douches drops a tire on his ankle or sprains his wrist shaking those ropes..........then will those will be too dangerous to use? ::)
ok ::)
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ok ::)
???
Good to see a Beta submit without too much struggle. 8)
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I haven't read the whole thread yet but wasn't dumbbells invented as a replacement for Kettle bell? What advantage does a Kettle Bell have over a dumbbell?
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I haven't read the whole thread yet but wasn't dumbbells invented as a replacement for Kettle bell? What advantage does a Kettle Bell have over a dumbbell?
Two completely different workouts P.
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KB's are good for cardio, fat loss and abs.
Also that guy doing the KB jerks has clearly trained for it. Of course none of us could do it. You may as well have put a video of a speedskater or a trapeze artist up.
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KB's are good for cardio, fat loss and abs.
Also that guy doing the KB jerks has clearly trained for it. Of course none of us could do it. You may as well have put a video of a speedskater or a trapeze artist up.
A barbell is good for cardio, fat loss and abs depending on how you use it. What can KBs do that dumbbells can't.
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Not better.
Just different.
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KB's are good for cardio, fat loss and abs.
Also that guy doing the KB jerks has clearly trained for it. Of course none of us could do it. You may as well have put a video of a speedskater or a trapeze artist up.
Yes I should put a video of a speedskater or a "trapeze" artist up in a thread about kettlebells, that's great! ::)
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You put up a video fo a guy who clearly trains with them - for years maybe.
And then say - I bet none of you could do this.
Of course we can't. Total idiocay on your behalf.
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Chime in on this
You can thank the crossfit community on youtube. I don't have a problem with it, it's just the attitude they portray like they are all the shit.
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You put up a video fo a guy who clearly trains with them - for years maybe.
And then say - I bet none of you could do this.
Of course we can't. Total idiocay on your behalf.
Yes of course it is. ::)
Why post a video of the topic of the thread challenging people to attempt to match or beat the video?
Have you been nipping at grandmas cough syrup again, Johnnyboy?
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So by your rational any topic regarding bench pressing, it would be perfectly fine to post a video of Ryan Kennelly benching and saying "I bet none of you twinks could do this"
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So by your rational any topic regarding bench pressing, it would be perfectly fine to post a video of Ryan Kennelly benching and saying "I bet none of you twinks could do this"
Maybe you have been drinking, I believe what I posted was "I bet none you you can do what this twink is doing", so if you want to call Ryan a twink and challenge people to match his BP, then go right ahead, I certainly won't melt down like a bitch over it. :D
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kbs are damn hard
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Maybe you have been drinking, I believe what I posted was "I bet none you you can do what this twink is doing", so if you want to call Ryan a twink and challenge people to match his BP, then go right ahead, I certainly won't melt down like a bitch over it. :D
I can do what he is doing.
Maybe not for anywhere near teh reps but yes I can jerk 2 little KB's
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I can do what he is doing.
Maybe not for anywhere near teh reps but yes I can jerk 2 little KB's
Those are 70lbs each, how many do you think you can do? :D
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30+
Edited from 40 to 30
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30+
Edited from 40 to 30
LMFAO!!!!!!!! Maybe in a week. ;D
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I could press 70lb DB's for 30 reps.
I am sure I could jerk 70lb KB's
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I could press 70lb DB's for 30 reps.
I am sure I could jerk 70lb KB's
Ursus dont pay chaos any mind, he doesn't know shit (ducking)
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Dude, you're my hero ;D
Before I start, I want to say that i'm not a believer that kettlebells are the "say all and end all" when it comes to fitness. So, don't confuse me with one of those "New Age" trainer-types who use nothing but kettlebells and exercise balls and denounce any type "old school" training protocol
I notice that there is a bit of "kettlebell hate" on here
Now, I agree that the fact that kettlebells are going "mainstream" is a bit much as of late. I mean, they have been in existence for a LONG time and now a bunch of johnny come latelys are pretending they are innovative cuz the just discovered them now.
However, that aside, I believe that kettlebells (done either in a circuit or Tabata style) are a more effectivce cardio workout than the tried and true " 2 one hour sessions a day on a treadmill walking on a very slow incline"
Chime in on this
then again, what do I care- I'm just gonna watch porn and hit on girls on plenty of fish all day long......then i'm gonna play "red dead redemption"
....then, I'm gonna go tanning
...oh, and I have to TiVo "To Catch a Predator" on MSNBC tonight
...Fuck, it's sunday- I have to go see my mom then go to my dads and stay in there "good graces" so i can stay in their respective wills
oh, yeah- talk about kettlebells
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I've never thought about getting pairs of kettlebells but i have 4 at home ranging from 18, 22, 26 and 28kg, I often use these in my shoulder workouts and use them alone to work my shoulders and do alot of lunging with them, they are very versatile, often easier to use than a dumbbell for certain things because you can rest them in the palm of your hand without worry of slipping, although cleaning two together and getting tired towards the end of a set it looks like you'd have to be careful not to crunch your thumbs between the handles .. ouch. Cool thread thanks for the videos chaos!
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