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he is so humble, yet he knows he will most likely murder Matyushenko.
That is a future champ for sure. Plus a great attitude. Great future for a 23 yr old.
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Never heard of the guy, never seen the guy fight but I watched this video on mute and its so rare to see this kind of composure or maturity from an MMA fighter. You dont even need to hear what he says and you can tell he's a humble intelligent person.
My first thoughts were why is this guy in MMA? MMA fans wont give this type of "persona" any fan fare, no matter how good he is, he's too boring for them.
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No doubt about it-- he will be the champ at 205 one day. If he wins this fight he should have one more tune up and then he should fight whoever is left after the smoke clears between Shogun+Rashad- Machida+Rampage and whoever else. If he wins that fight, he should fight for the title.
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No doubt about it-- he will be the champ at 205 one day. If he wins this fight he should have one more tune up and then he should fight whoever is left after the smoke clears between Shogun+Rashad- Machida+Rampage and whoever else. If he wins that fight, he should fight for the title.
The smoke never clears in the LHW division. That belt is like a hot potato.
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Jones has a ton of talent for sure. What sucks about him is that growing up he was a fucking snitch to anyone who would smoke weed/drink etc. He wanted to be a cop or some shit.
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Jones has a ton of talent for sure. What sucks about him is that growing up he was a fucking snitch to anyone who would smoke weed/drink etc. He wanted to be a cop or some shit.
#1--Where is your proof, and
#2--Who really cares if that IS true anyway. All I care about is his fighting.
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#1--Where is your proof, and
#2--Who really cares if that IS true anyway. All I care about is his fighting.
El Melto Downo!
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El Melto Downo!
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corny
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Never heard of the guy, never seen the guy fight but I watched this video on mute and its so rare to see this kind of composure or maturity from an MMA fighter. You dont even need to hear what he says and you can tell he's a humble intelligent person.
My first thoughts were why is this guy in MMA? MMA fans wont give this type of "persona" any fan fare, no matter how good he is, he's too boring for them.
Do yourself a favor and try to find his fights on youtube or something. He is dynamic and exciting. Amazing talent. That said, I think he more than has his hands full on Sunday. I don't see him just walking through Matyushenko. It's going to be a great test for him.
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Do yourself a favor and try to find his fights on youtube or something. He is dynamic and exciting. Amazing talent. That said, I think he more than has his hands full on Sunday. I don't see him just walking through Matyushenko. It's going to be a great test for him.
No, i don't see this either. I have a weird feeling actually about that fight. Like a huge upset is coming.
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You guys are nuts-- If this fight makes it out of round 1, I will be very surprised.
Nobody at 205 has his wrestling or his reach. All he needs to do is get the fight to the ground and it will be over.
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#1--Where is your proof, and
#2--Who really cares if that IS true anyway. All I care about is his fighting.
he said it himself in an interview, fyi he "is" a cop
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I rolled with (and got cushed by) Vlady many times when he was training out of R1 in El Segundo, CA. This was around 2002-2006 when Frank Trigg was still there. The guy is stupid strong. He has that kind of strength that you don't get in the gym lifting weights. When he is on his game and laying off the Vodka his ground game is world class. If he can clinch and get it to the ground it will be a long night for Jones. Though he's past his prime, Vlady is a very tough and durable mofo and has that Soviet era Eastern Bloc machine-like mentality. I have a feeling Valdy will win this due to experience. Either way, Jones' time will come and he seems destined for greatness. It's hard to believe he's only 23 yo. For their age he and Aldo are prodigies.
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#1--Where is your proof, and
#2--Who really cares if that IS true anyway. All I care about is his fighting.
He said in an interview he was one of those kids that would tell on the people who would do drugs at school. Tough dude, but really pointless main event, the janitor is a helluva wrestler, but he lacks the athleticism and explosiveness, and stand up for that matter. Brutal step backwards for Jones.
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He said in an interview he was one of those kids that would tell on the people who would do drugs at school. Tough dude, but really pointless main event, the janitor is a helluva wrestler, but he lacks the athleticism and explosiveness, and stand up for that matter. Brutal step backwards for Jones.
this is why ufc needs a tournament/ grand prix per weight class imo. If guys handlers/dana wants to milk young talent on wasted shows , and at the same time NOT give them a shot a the top guys out there...throw them in a freaking grand prix (one match per show..not the old school 3 fight per night deal) style tourney that lasts year round and crown a grand prix champ per weight class at year end and give them a check for 100 grand or something like that...then every january bring in the new year grand prix champ BAD ASS per weight class vs the current champion for the belt.
Every UFC january card every year would be STACKED....grad prix champ vs undisputed champ from top to bottom every weight class that night..all title shots. Then start over the grand prix again..etc.
The way the ufc is set up now....just wasting talent imo.
that sh*t would be awesome....dana email me if you need help getting this sh*t figured out.
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Always bet on Jones
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He said in an interview he was one of those kids that would tell on the people who would do drugs at school. Tough dude, but really pointless main event, the janitor is a helluva wrestler, but he lacks the athleticism and explosiveness, and stand up for that matter. Brutal step backwards for Jones.
How is this a step backwards for Jones? UFC obviously wanted to give him another stepping stone fight to see where he is at. He won the fight as well.
I"m sure he'll get a top 5'er next. Actually, i'd like to see him toss around Griffin a little.
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Very impressive win. I like what the UFC is doing with him. They are taking their time and building him up. I would keep him fighting b level fighters for 3-4 more fights before putting him in there with top 5 talent.
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Very impressive win. I like what the UFC is doing with him. They are taking their time and building him up. I would keep him fighting b level fighters for 3-4 more fights before putting him in there with top 5 talent.
3 or 4 more??
I think Griffin is next. Or Lil nog.
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How is this a step backwards for Jones? UFC obviously wanted to give him another stepping stone fight to see where he is at. He won the fight as well.
I"m sure he'll get a top 5'er next. Actually, i'd like to see him toss around Griffin a little.
Brutal step backwards in competition, he went from Brandon Vera to a little old Janitor. Terrible match up and terrible main event, they couldve put someone tougher in there. The Vera fight was not intended to be a stepping stone fight, this one was. Jones is good, but I don't really see why everyone is so suprised that he destroyed Vlady. Even Griffin is an easy fight stylistically for him, I'd like to see him fight the winner of lil Nog/Bader or Thiago Silva next. That would be a true step up in competition.
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Another stepping stone and then he should get a title shot.
Throwing him in against another 3 or 4 cans is going to hurt him, not help him.
He needs a a top 5 guy at 205 for his next fight and if he wins he should be thrown to the wolves.
Enough bullshit.
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I'd like to see Thiago Silva next for Bones. If he gets past that, then we're talking Shogun/Machida/Rampage. I doubt he'd fight Rashad, since they are both part of Greg Jackson's camp.
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Shogun is the only real threat I see for him. Who knows if Bones could get the timing down.
Rampage? laughable.
Rua? Would be a slugfest.
Bader? Would be a slugfest.
I just hope Bones doesn't get his nerves up too much about being the next big thing. He did look awfully nervous last night.
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Shogun is the only real threat I see for him. Who knows if Bones could get the timing down.
Rampage? laughable.
Rua? Would be a slugfest.
Bader? Would be a slugfest.
I just hope Bones doesn't get his nerves up too much about being the next big thing. He did look awfully nervous last night.
I don't think Jon seemed that nervous at all last night. I think he appeared a little more nervous before Vera. I think he's fine in that regard.
As far as future matchups...let's not get to ahead of ourselves. Rampage a "laughable" opponent against Jones? ::) I don't think so. Shogun is his only threat? What about Machida? Don't write him off just yet. ;)
In Bones we're dealing with a guy who's 23 and only has 12 pro fights. He looks fantastic and I am a fan, but given the depth of the LHW division, he will likely lose one of his next few fights. MMA is like that to begin with...very tough to just run through a tough division.
Have you guys seen Phil Davis fight? A lot of the same beastly potential as Jones. And...he's another LHW.
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Why be in such a hurry to put him in there with top 5 guys? For as good as he is, Jones still does not have that much experience. Even if he could get past guys like Silva or Lil Nog, I think he would be better off waiting 1-2 years and in that time continue to gain experience and mature. Not only that, but he will continue to build his name and a decent fight record. He would only be 25 before going against the top five.
If they do it right, Jones could be the 1st real dominant LHV in the UFC.
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Rampage, Rashad, Lyoto and Rua should be off limits to him for his next fight.
He should fight Silva or Bader next.
If he wins that fight, he should get either a title shot, or at the very least fight the Lyoto-Rampage loser.
Anyone else at 205 is a joke for him at this point. What else does he need to do? Giving him trash bags over and over again is going to lead to people taking less of an interest in him and his skills will diminish at the same time.
He needs a real test and by real I mean an actual challenge. He is too gifted, too strong and way too good a wrestler to prep him with another 3 or 4 bullshit fights.
You gain experience (valuable experience) by fighting the best and having some wars, not by pounding on subpar fighters that don't deserve to be in the ring with you. As a 23 year old with a 12-0 record, he should be going for it now, not wasting his time. He has taken no damage and experienced virtually no hardship as a professional. Going for it now is only going to help him, not hurt him.
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Rampage, Rashad, Lyoto and Rua should be off limits to him for his next fight.
He should fight Silva or Bader next.
If he wins that fight, he should get either a title shot, or at the very least fight the Lyoto-Rampage loser.
Anyone else at 205 is a joke for him at this point. What else does he need to do? Giving him trash bags over and over again is going to lead to people taking less of an interest in him and his skills will diminish at the same time.
He needs a real test and by real I mean an actual challenge. He is too gifted, too strong and way too good a wrestler to prep him with another 3 or 4 bullshit fights.
You gain experience (valuable experience) by fighting the best and having some wars, not by pounding on subpar fighters that don't deserve to be in the ring with you. As a 23 year old with a 12-0 record, he should be going for it now, not wasting his time. He has taken no damage and experienced virtually no hardship as a professional. Going for it now is only going to help him, not hurt him.
I see your point, but if it were up to me, he would 4-5 times per year with the B level UFC fighters (none of which are a joke). And, when facing these opponents, if it's so easy for him, he should use the fights are training sessions to try out new techniques or fight to his opponents strengths instead of their weaknesses.
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You gain experience (valuable experience) by fighting the best and having some wars, not by pounding on subpar fighters that don't deserve to be in the ring with you. As a 23 year old with a 12-0 record, he should be going for it now, not wasting his time. He has taken no damage and experienced virtually no hardship as a professional. Going for it now is only going to help him, not hurt him.
he's not 12-0 he lost a fight last year in the 1st round so he needs a few more wins in a row before he earns a title shot
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Why be in such a hurry to put him in there with top 5 guys? For as good as he is, Jones still does not have that much experience. Even if he could get past guys like Silva or Lil Nog, I think he would be better off waiting 1-2 years and in that time continue to gain experience and mature. Not only that, but he will continue to build his name and a decent fight record. He would only be 25 before going against the top five.
If they do it right, Jones could be the 1st real dominant LHV in the UFC.
He's calling for the top guys now, if you beat a good fighter you're expected to continue to fight better fighters until you reach the top. You're idea of "right" is one of the dumber ideas ive heard in a while, he's already headlining cards and Dana said he's getting a top 8 guy next, he's 2 fights away from a title shot.
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I meant to say Machida is his biggest threat...i.e. the timing thing.
I agree though.. he should get either bader or silva next. That would be a step up. I'd like to see bader...although one of them has to lose, and they're both UFC gloryboys right now.
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he's not 12-0 he lost a fight last year in the 1st round so he needs a few more wins in a row before he earns a title shot
He didn't lose anything. He was DQ'd. And most feel it was bs
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He didn't lose anything. He was DQ'd. And most feel it was bs
Amen! And if Hammil wants a rematch he'll get the crap beat outta him again. He used the illegal blow as a excuse to say he couldn't continue on. Hammil was being gnp'd into the ground!
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Marty is just being a retard as usual. Jones raped Hammil in that fight. Elbows or not, that shit wasn't making it out of round 1.
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He WHOOPED Hammil's ass in that fight. That is one of the most complete beatings I have seen. Most wars just end up with bloody faces. Hammill's shoulder, ribs, face, etc were destroyed. That illegal elbow was a BS call. Hammill was whiped b4 that. And while I am on Hammill, that is one of the most over rated fighters IMO. I feel Dana tries to shove him down everyone's throat. He is a robotic punching dummy. He is slow, and just zombie walks while his opponent beats his face till they get tired. His striking looks worse than Hughes.
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this is why ufc needs a tournament/ grand prix per weight class imo. If guys handlers/dana wants to milk young talent on wasted shows , and at the same time NOT give them a shot a the top guys out there...throw them in a freaking grand prix (one match per show..not the old school 3 fight per night deal) style tourney that lasts year round and crown a grand prix champ per weight class at year end and give them a check for 100 grand or something like that...then every january bring in the new year grand prix champ BAD ASS per weight class vs the current champion for the belt.
Every UFC january card every year would be STACKED....grad prix champ vs undisputed champ from top to bottom every weight class that night..all title shots. Then start over the grand prix again..etc.
The way the ufc is set up now....just wasting talent imo.
that sh*t would be awesome....dana email me if you need help getting this sh*t figured out.
Been saying this for years.