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Shockwave gave me a wake up call, I respect what he says and for the most part he was right. That being said, my mind still won't change about what this administration is, what I (not anyone elses, Rush, Hannity, etc) feel is purposely trying to derail the country to fit their own socialist agenda. As many on here that have their own businesses, a family, mortgage, etc my irritation runs deep. Shockwave mention that I sounded like I "hated" the President, "hate" is a strong word. As I said before in a previous post awhile ago "it used to be that I hated the Presidents politics and not him personally but seeing what he is, IMO, purposely trying to do to the American people (business and our kids in particular ) how can one NOT dislike him on a personal level"?. Of course there's a ton more. I understand no president is perfect and towards the end I know Bush really screwed up, Clinton tried doing the same thing Obama did but in re-election for his second term realized THAT WAS NOT WAS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANTED and moved to the center and he won a second re-election, a smart move. But we have or to my best recollection, has anyone seen anything with the likes of this.
Ok, I'm done. Shockwave, thank you.
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Withdrawal ain't pretty, but on the up side your sex drive will return. ;D
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You dont necessarily have to call it quits man, but just realize how your posts come across, the beauty of politics is that it takes both viewpoints to function, they are supposed to counterbalance each other, the problem now a days, is that that point is lost on people,..
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You dont necessarily have to call it quits man, but just realize how your posts come across, the beauty of politics is that it takes both viewpoints to function, they are supposed to counterbalance each other, the problem now a days, is that that point is lost on people,..
I know I come across harsh but I realize it's sometimes TOO harsh.
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Good stuff Coach. We all have our own opinions. You are well respected on this board.
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Coach, your not a bad dude, but your political ideals make you out to be quite the delusional and ignorant douchebag.
Im glad you dont want to spend your time on it anymore. not even because i dont like what you have to say, but because unless yoru planning on being an active participant (running for office, helping on campaigns/fundraising, etc) then politics is a wild goose chase. no matter what you say or think, it doesnt matter.
now, if you ever do want to come back to politics, heres just a few quick tips and hints to help you out :)
-the government's only job is to protect each citizens right's to "life, liberty, & PoH", and to provide necessary services that the citizen could not provide for themselves on their own (fire, police, military, post office, DOT, healthcare, etc)
-it is not the government's job to enforce morality upon its citizens. "Gods law" will be enforced when the time comes, but here on earth people should be allowed to do whatever they please, so long as their actions dont directly, unwantingly, and negatively affect someone elses rights.
-taxes are necessary to pay for the functioning of the government, and since it would not be right to strap the poor and middle class with heavy taxes, the bulk of tax revenue should come from the super rich corporations who do most of the business in our economy anyways.
-capitalism is a nice economic theory that allows for a great amount of individual freedom in the market. but capitalism left unchecked is not a workable theory, and the original idea of how capitalism shoudl work in a free market is flawed. regulations must be in place in order for any economy to run stable and allow equality among the citizens.
ok, polsci 100 is out for the day :P p.s. coach.. no feedback, just take it in
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Withdrawal ain't pretty, but on the up side your sex drive will return. ;D
Yeah Coach is gonna put a pretty good fucking on his ole lady tonight for sure.
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"Gods law" will be enforced when the time comes,
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Please.
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Coach is a cool dude.
At the end of the day, all the democrats and republicans sit in one giant room trying to figure out how to get rich. All that other shit is a show for the people. They all have their hands in eachothers pockets. With that in mind, who can take politics serious? ::)
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You dont necessarily have to call it quits man, but just realize how your posts come across, the beauty of politics is that it takes both viewpoints to function, they are supposed to counterbalance each other, the problem now a days, is that that point is lost on people,..
Shockwave that was an excellent owning of Cooch although it wasn't intended to be.
I never hated Cooch but ever since President Obama was elected he's turned into a total fucking nutcase and it consumes his every thought. Naturally some of us aren't gonna take shit from someone talking PERSONAL shit about our president fucked up or not.
I explained that to this needledick a week or so ago in a post.
Now it seems his new item of interest is racism which is more of an epic fail than his politics...He's arguing about the black panthers when everyone on the other side is agreeing they're pieces of shit. Then he really reaches and tries to make a connection to the Obama administration or the President himself.
Then I refer to the racist memebers of the tea party movement and refer to them as crackers, (you know the same way the 80% of getbig refers to a bad black person as a guy) and he meltsdown and tells me how thats as racist as calling a black peson the a guy...At that moment I knew he was lost cause anyone with a 1/4 of a brain knows thats not true and Cooch would never go on record saying that. According to him it's all in how it's percieved... ::)
While I respect Cooch in his other endeavors, he's horrible at expressiving himself and took the bait everytime I threw it out there and worked off raw emotion, rather than logic. Oh yeah, and deep down he knows I'll choke his old ass out military training style :D
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Coach, your not a bad dude, but your political ideals make you out to be quite the delusional and ignorant douchebag.
Im glad you dont want to spend your time on it anymore. not even because i dont like what you have to say, but because unless yoru planning on being an active participant (running for office, helping on campaigns/fundraising, etc) then politics is a wild goose chase. no matter what you say or think, it doesnt matter.
now, if you ever do want to come back to politics, heres just a few quick tips and hints to help you out :)
-the government's only job is to protect each citizens right's to "life, liberty, & PoH", and to provide necessary services that the citizen could not provide for themselves on their own (fire, police, military, post office, DOT, healthcare, etc)
-it is not the government's job to enforce morality upon its citizens. "Gods law" will be enforced when the time comes, but here on earth people should be allowed to do whatever they please, so long as their actions dont directly, unwantingly, and negatively affect someone elses rights.
-taxes are necessary to pay for the functioning of the government, and since it would not be right to strap the poor and middle class with heavy taxes, the bulk of tax revenue should come from the super rich corporations who do most of the business in our economy anyways.
-capitalism is a nice economic theory that allows for a great amount of individual freedom in the market. but capitalism left unchecked is not a workable theory, and the original idea of how capitalism shoudl work in a free market is flawed. regulations must be in place in order for any economy to run stable and allow equality among the citizens.
ok, polsci 100 is out for the day :P p.s. coach.. no feedback, just take it in
See, it's shit like this that makes me want to just tear this post apart word for word..........alas, I will refrain.
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Shockwave that was an excellent owning of Cooch although it wasn't intended to be.
I never hated Cooch but ever since President Obama was elected he's turned into a total fucking nutcase and it consumes his every thought. Naturally some of aren't gonna take shit from someone talking PERSONAL shit about our president fucked up or not.
I explained that to this needledick a week or so ago in a post.
Now it seems his new item of interest is racism which is more of an epic fail than his politics...He's arguing about the black panthers when everyone on the other side is agreeing they're pieces of shit. Then he really reaches and tries to make a connection to the Obama administration or the President himself.
Then I refer to the racist memebers of the tea party movement and refer to them as crackers, (you know the same way the 80% of getbig refers to a bad black person as a guy) and he meltsdown and tells me how thats as racist as calling a black peson the a guy...At that moment I knew he was lost cause anyone with a 1/4 of a brain knows thats not true and Cooch would never go on record saying that. According to him it's all in how it's percieved... ::)
El Melto Downo!
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enough nut hugging. Good riddance to your gibberish.
The first step to recovery is admitting that Bush was/is a coc ksucker who fucked this country worst in 8 years than anyone else ever could.
Obama was handed a bag of shit to run and all he did was add more shit because what bush created may take 5 presidencies to fix.
And please admit that if McCain and Palin were running this country we'd be fucked beyond belief and China would own us...which they already sort of do.
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Please.
do you really want to get into this discussion again? ;D
i doubt you really want to get into this discussion, so instead heres a brief preview of what the discussion might start to look like, if we were to go there.... you can respond to it if you think its goin in a direction you want to pursue.. otherwise im not going to get deep into it because in order to get ideas across accurately, especially this one, it takes a long winded thoroughness that im just not ready for at the moment ;D
"forget the fact that you dont believe in God, and realise that alot of the voters do. the only way to get them to understand that its isnt the gov's job to enforce God's will and to keep the people in accordance with moral codes is to make them realise that God created man with the free will to do whatever he may like, and that our governments shoudl mirror Gods creation by allowing the same free will. God of course didnt institute any prisons for those people who went around acting in ways that harmed others, so we have made some "improvements", but we should not try to limit peoples actions to only those sanctioned by God..."
that would be the beginning of one of my main points on the topic.. as i ask above.. sure u wanna get into this?? ;D
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See, it's shit like this that makes me want to just tear this post apart word for word..........alas, I will refrain.
Don't let this happen to you!
(http://www.radswiki.net/main/images/thumb/4/4f/Hook_in_mouth_xrays_001.jpg/600px-Hook_in_mouth_xrays_001.jpg)
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post pics of the pretty morena on your baseball team, and i got your back against this b###hes coach. dont ever back down on getdumb even when you are wrong. it's a sign of weakness. the next thing you'll be posting space aliens with that clown in romania. too bad they didn't abduct his body. MAN UP!
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See, it's shit like this that makes me want to just tear this post apart word for word..........alas, I will refrain.
I know man me too. That fucktard doesn't know his ass from his hand.
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Don't let this happen to you!
(http://www.radswiki.net/main/images/thumb/4/4f/Hook_in_mouth_xrays_001.jpg/600px-Hook_in_mouth_xrays_001.jpg)
Works everytime with him.
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The Daily Show with Jon Stewart is a quality program
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See, it's shit like this that makes me want to just tear this post apart word for word..........alas, I will refrain.
the fact that you even think a response is necessary.. ;D
Coach, my brother... there IS a difference between facts and opinions. ;D
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I'm somewhat shocked that people are surprised as to what is going on. What did you expect?
In fact, they haven't seen anything yet. Wait till all of these law changes (health care, taxes, finance regs, etc) actually come into play.
We could not afford the entitlements we already had. So what does Obama do? He adds a new huge one.
We won't be in Iraq & Afghanistan forever. But entitlements ARE forever. We've never gotten rid of them, and as the politicians say in a nice moderated tone on Meet the Press, "It'll be catastrophic...."
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Coach I really didnt intend for that post to come across to you the way it did, I was just trying to get you to understand that peoples brains turn off as soon as they see the word "Lib", "traitor" "marxist" etc, they simply dismiss you as a fox news puppett, so if you want people to take what you say seriously, you have to re-word it. I didnt mean to sound like a total dick. I save that shit for MuscleMcAnus. lol.
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People have spoken. Yeah, right, shut the fuck up, you really should. Because what right do you have to bitch? You still don't understand how elections work?
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Shockwave gave me a wake up call, I respect what he says and for the most part he was right. That being said, my mind still won't change about what this administration is, what I (not anyone elses, Rush, Hannity, etc) feel is purposely trying to derail the country to fit their own socialist agenda. As many on here that have their own businesses, a family, mortgage, etc my irritation runs deep. Shockwave mention that I sounded like I "hated" the President, "hate" is a strong word. As I said before in a previous post awhile ago "it used to be that I hated the Presidents politics and not him personally but seeing what he is, IMO, purposely trying to do to the American people (business and our kids in particular ) how can one NOT dislike him on a personal level"?. Of course there's a ton more. I understand no president is perfect and towards the end I know Bush really screwed up, Clinton tried doing the same thing Obama did but in re-election for his second term realized THAT WAS NOT WAS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANTED and moved to the center and he won a second re-election, a smart move. But we have or to my best recollection, has anyone seen anything with the likes of this.
Ok, I'm done. Shockwave, thank you.
Meltdown!
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See, it's shit like this that makes me want to just tear this post apart word for word..........alas, I will refrain.
there is nothing to tear apart, and everything you would disagree with can be shown in a historical light to be, essentially, wrong.
A disequilibrium (supply side disequilibrium)brought on by unchecked (no regulation)big biz in the post progressive reform move era brought on the great depression. Guess what, this happened again over the last 15 years or so, and look at our economy now.
Get an education, go skull fuck the biggest lie ever called "jesus," and rejoin the conversation. You're a good guy, coach, and I would train with you any time, but there is no god, the economy needs regulation, and 99% of conservatives are scared, selfish people. If you'd like to watch a lecture on the different brain wiring/chemistry of left wing/right wing people, go to TED.com (or youtube) and search brain chemistry, politics. Very interesting stuff.
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peoples brains turn off as soon as they see the word "Lib", "traitor" "marxist" etc, they simply dismiss you as a fox news puppett, .
BADA BOOM!!!!!!!!
THE EXTREME HYPERBOLE MUST STOP
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Coach, just move your political stuff to the political board. It is a bodybuilding site and there is a board specifically designated for this stuff.
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fuck republicans!!!!
(except arnold because hes arnold)
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fuck republicans!!!!
(except arnold because hes arnold)
Both parties are pulling a three card monte game on the public and anyone who believes otherwise is falling for it hook line and sinker.
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fuck republicans!!!!
(except arnold because hes arnold)
Yes, Arnold is doing a fantastic job with us :)
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Both parties are pulling a three card monte game on the public and anyone who believes otherwise is falling for it hook line and sinker.
x2
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there is nothing to tear apart, and everything you would disagree with can be shown in a historical light to be, essentially, wrong.
A disequilibrium (supply side disequilibrium)brought on by unchecked (no regulation)big biz in the post progressive reform move era brought on the great depression. Guess what, this happened again over the last 15 years or so, and look at our economy now.
Get an education, go skull fuck the biggest lie ever called "jesus," and rejoin the conversation. You're a good guy, coach, and I would train with you any time, but there is no god, the economy needs regulation, and 99% of conservatives are scared, selfish people. If you'd like to watch a lecture on the different brain wiring/chemistry of left wing/right wing people, go to TED.com (or youtube) and search brain chemistry, politics. Very interesting stuff.
http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-sci-politics10sep10,0,2687256.story
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Wow. I didn't see this 360-degree turn for-the-better, coming. ;D
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Politics is nothing more than who you prefer stealing and wasting your money.
The left prefers that the govt steal it and dole it out to the poor and special interests like public sector unions, welfare, govt agencies, etc.
The right prefers the govt steal it for wars and military spending.
The vast working and middle class gets screwed by both parties in this con game as one parties taxes the crap out of you and spends the money in ways that help no one. The other party borrows and spends it.
At the end of the day, the result is the same, unless you are a bum on welfare or a corporate titan, you are likely getting screwed royally, whether its direct taxation, inflation, less freedom, etc.
These parties get us to fight over personalities like Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc, as opposed to discussing the polices they are actually enacting.
If we discussed the policies as opposed to the personalities, Obama, Bush, Clinton et al would be in a shared jail cell.
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Politics is nothing more than who you prefer stealing and wasting your money.
The left prefers that the govt steal it and dole it out to the poor and special interests like public sector unions, welfare, govt agencies, etc.
The right prefers the govt steal it for wars and military spending.
The vast working and middle class gets screwed by both parties in this con game as one parties taxes the crap out of you and spends the money in ways that help no one. The other party borrows and spends it.
At the end of the day, the result is the same, unless you are a bum on welfare or a corporate titan, you are likely getting screwed royally, whether its direct taxation, inflation, less freedom, etc.
I guess it comes down to which ideology works best for the country. Whats going on right now is proof of what works and what doesn't.
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You guys really need to read this book and understand that most of these issues we fight about are nonsense for public consumption and diversion.
I love how the left wingers keep screaming for more regulation of business by the govt, when it is the govt and the Federal Reserve as the culprit for most of our problems. Talk about a con game!
Like Harry Browne said: "The government breaks your legs, hands you a crutch, and demands a life time of servitude for the ability to walk."
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Yes, Arnold is doing a fantastic job with us :)
but hes Arnold so its ok.
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Heard some nerd author on the radio the other day, yes I listen to something other than Hank Jr or Metallica ;D, and he made a great point that is along these same lines.
He was talking about that during GW Bush's admin guys like Moore, etc... exploited peoples fears and caused half the population to get angry....now we have the opposite....Obama has Hannity, Rush, etc... doing the exact same thing to the other half of the population. When most of the time there is a huge majority of what people will agree on, in a a ONE on ONE conversation, too many are too easily distracted by these shenanigans...most of which are nothing more than to get higher ratings, sell more movie tickets and thereby line the pockets of these assholes.
Mini-melt over...
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I'm pretty stupid and not too smart so I never got involved in politics until some asshole politician who owned a warehouse full of WWII rain-gear (ponchos) sent us ponchos during the heavy monsoon season in Vietnam.
And it was like wearing toilet paper in a rain-storm, so I wrote lots of letters but never received a response.
And that was soon followed by the arrival of some rifles that didn't work under adverse conditions such as mud and rain and yelling too loudy.
And we all assumed that those defective weapons were made by a company in which some politician was a majority stock owner.
And that's my extent with politics although I know a few whom I can call by their first name.
I don't know right from left nor anything in between, but I think I'd vote for you, Bomz. You say and see things with an intelligent attitude so you'd more than likely get my vote if you ever ran for office.
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Coach I really didnt intend for that post to come across to you the way it did, I was just trying to get you to understand that peoples brains turn off as soon as they see the word "Lib", "traitor" "marxist" etc, they simply dismiss you as a fox news puppett, so if you want people to take what you say seriously, you have to re-word it. I didnt mean to sound like a total dick. I save that shit for MuscleMcAnus. lol.
I take it you are not very "in the loop" with political reporting but Fox news is the ONLY fair and balanced outlet. Thats why they are the #1 rated news program in the nation.
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El Melto Downo!
lol
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there is nothing to tear apart, and everything you would disagree with can be shown in a historical light to be, essentially, wrong.
A disequilibrium (supply side disequilibrium)brought on by unchecked (no regulation)big biz in the post progressive reform move era brought on the great depression. Guess what, this happened again over the last 15 years or so, and look at our economy now.
Get an education, go skull fuck the biggest lie ever called "jesus," and rejoin the conversation. You're a good guy, coach, and I would train with you any time, but there is no god, the economy needs regulation, and 99% of conservatives are scared, selfish people. If you'd like to watch a lecture on the different brain wiring/chemistry of left wing/right wing people, go to TED.com (or youtube) and search brain chemistry, politics. Very interesting stuff.
easily one of the most ill thought out posts ever written on here. its funny how people are exactly what they despise and don't even know it.
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I take it you are not very "in the loop" with political reporting but Fox news is the ONLY fair and balanced outlet. Thats why they are the #1 rated news program in the nation.
Look, neither side is fair and balanced, that phrase doesnt exist in the media today.
I am a conservative, FYI, but I see my original point was lost on you. Im saying that the people reading his posts mentally shut down and stop listening after they hear a few of fox news' "buzz" words.
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easily one of the most ill thought out posts ever written on here. its funny how people are exactly what they despise and don't even know it.
Lol exactly. Basically hes saying if Coach was the same, just on his side of the fence, it would be ok. lol.
Its funny to me how people get so hung up on the small points, atheists are just as big as assholes as the religious people, and the bigger picture is lost on both of them and its just another avenue for people to argue over whos right. :(
Atheists should really get over the whole religion thing, and so should christians, tbombz posts is spot on, really it should come down to the message, how to treat your fellow man, and what fair and just for the fellow man. Morality is not for the government to enforce, thats the job of parents, the government is just supposed to make it the "inalienable rights" fair game for its citizens. Too many people lose sight of that and just want to argue about there point of view.
And that whole argument about the way a left wingers brain functions compared to a right winger is about the dumbest fucking thing ive ever heard of, extremists on both sides are bad, if you cant comprehend that, than youre just as stupid as the people you rail against.
But the beauty of our system is that we need the Coachs to offset the TrapsMclats, we need the ying to match the yang, otherwise shit falls apart.
But, praytell, what happens when the Ying and the Yang start working together for common goals, playing us against each other to get what they want? Ying and Yang both win, and we lose. :(
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Shockwave gave me a wake up call, I respect what he says and for the most part he was right. That being said, my mind still won't change about what this administration is, what I (not anyone elses, Rush, Hannity, etc) feel is purposely trying to derail the country to fit their own socialist agenda. As many on here that have their own businesses, a family, mortgage, etc my irritation runs deep. Shockwave mention that I sounded like I "hated" the President, "hate" is a strong word. As I said before in a previous post awhile ago "it used to be that I hated the Presidents politics and not him personally but seeing what he is, IMO, purposely trying to do to the American people (business and our kids in particular ) how can one NOT dislike him on a personal level"?. Of course there's a ton more. I understand no president is perfect and towards the end I know Bush really screwed up, Clinton tried doing the same thing Obama did but in re-election for his second term realized THAT WAS NOT WAS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANTED and moved to the center and he won a second re-election, a smart move. But we have or to my best recollection, has anyone seen anything with the likes of this.
Ok, I'm done. Shockwave, thank you.
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I don't believe you Coach , how many times have you quit GETBIG ?
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I'm pretty stupid and not too smart so I never got involved in politics until some asshole politician who owned a warehouse full of WWII rain-gear (ponchos) sent us ponchos during the heavy monsoon season in Vietnam.
And it was like wearing toilet paper in a rain-storm, so I wrote lots of letters but never received a response.
And that was soon followed by the arrival of some rifles that didn't work under adverse conditions such as mud and rain and yelling too loudy.
And we all assumed that those defective weapons were made by a company in which some politician was a majority stock owner.
And that's my extent with politics although I know a few whom I can call by their first name.
I don't know right from left nor anything in between, but I think I'd vote for you, Bomz. You say and see things with an intelligent attitude so you'd more than likely get my vote if you ever ran for office.
Read my post above, Politics is nothing more than who you prefer stealing your money and freedoms from you.
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tbumbz
this person is an admitted homosexual.
a homosexual does not have the ability to
relate to human beings as they are a sub species of man.
a homosexual has less brain capacity than humans.
thus explaining the taking of anothers cock in their mouths.
this particular homosexual has also never contributed anything
to society. his perceived contributions are inline with those
who spend their lives as murderers, pedos, rapist and liberals.
at least most of those at one time had actual jobs, paid taxes and
at least faked some semblance of worth to society.
let it rip coach. dare to be different. never follow the crowd
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Politics is nothing more than who you prefer stealing your money and freedoms from you.
basically true but what makes the world turn is what matters.
and what is that you ask.
3 things
this economy is a war based economy ran by
1. big business
2. big government
3. the interactions between the 2.
sooner you figure this out the sooner you figure out politics means shit
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http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-sci-politics10sep10,0,2687256.story
Horseshit. a NY University and UCLA study followed up with a quote from a researcher from UC Berkely. Ok, I'm done.
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I don't believe you Coach , how many times have you quit GETBIG ?
I didn't say I was quitting getbig.
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easily one of the most ill thought out posts ever written on here. its funny how people are exactly what they despise and don't even know it.
my thoughts on religion may be poor... but my knowledge of the causes and effects of the great depression, and the cyclical and predictable nature of the american economy are spot on.
Just take a look at japan's GDP vs their debt right now. Thats the US in 50 years if we don't make drastic changes.
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See, it's shit like this that makes me want to just tear this post apart word for word..........alas, I will refrain.
I would but I stopped when he said that the gov is suppose to provide for postal service and health care.
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Still in the quits mode coach?
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Still in the quits mode coach?
;D