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Title: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2010, 04:28:28 PM
White House backed release of Lockerbie bomber Abdel Baset al-Megrahi

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/white-house-backed-release-of-lockerbie-bomber-abdel-baset-al-megrahi/story-e6frg6so-1225896741041

Jason Allardyce and Tony Allen-Mills From: The Australian July 26, 2010


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THE US government secretly advised Scottish ministers it would be "far preferable" to free the Lockerbie bomber than jail him in Libya.

Correspondence obtained by The Sunday Times reveals the Obama administration considered compassionate release more palatable than locking up Abdel Baset al-Megrahi in a Libyan prison.


The intervention, which has angered US relatives of those who died in the attack, was made by Richard LeBaron, deputy head of the US embassy in London, a week before Megrahi was freed in August last year on grounds that he had terminal cancer.

The document, acquired by a well-placed US source, threatens to undermine US President Barack Obama's claim last week that all Americans were "surprised, disappointed and angry" to learn of Megrahi's release.

Scottish ministers viewed the level of US resistance to compassionate release as "half-hearted" and a sign it would be accepted.

The US has tried to keep the letter secret, refusing to give permission to the Scottish authorities to publish it on the grounds it would prevent future "frank and open communications" with other governments.

In the letter, sent on August 12 last year to Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond and justice officials, Mr LeBaron wrote that the US wanted Megrahi to remain imprisoned in view of the nature of the crime.

The note added: "Nevertheless, if Scottish authorities come to the conclusion that Megrahi must be released from Scottish custody, the US position is that conditional release on compassionate grounds would be a far preferable alternative to prisoner transfer, which we strongly oppose."

Mr LeBaron added that freeing the bomber and making him live in Scotland "would mitigate a number of the strong concerns we have expressed with regard to Megrahi's release".

The US administration lobbied the Scottish government more strongly against sending Megrahi home, under a prisoner transfer agreement signed by the British and Libyan governments, in a deal now known to have been linked to a pound stg. 550 million oil contract for BP.

It claimed this would flout a decade-old agreement between Britain and the US that anyone convicted of the bombing would serve their sentence in a Scottish prison. Megrahi was released by Scottish Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill on the grounds that he had three months to live, making his sentence effectively spent.

The US Senate foreign relations committee launched a probe after The Sunday Times revealed this month that Megrahi's doctors thought he could live for another decade.

A source close to the Senate inquiry said: "The (LeBaron) letter is embarrassing for the US because it shows they were much less opposed to compassionate release than prisoner transfer."

Last week, a succession of British politicians - including Mr MacAskill, Mr Salmond and former justice secretary Jack Straw - delivered a diplomatic snub to the senators by refusing to fly across the Atlantic to answer questions at the Senate's hearing on Thursday (US time) about their role in Megrahi's release.

Despite the controversy over the Gulf of Mexico oil spill and Megrahi's release, it emerged over the weekend that BP is planning deep-water drilling off Libya.

And BP boss Tony Hayward is poised to quit this week when the company announces its half-year results, London's Sunday Telegraph reported.

The Sunday Times, AFP


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IF PROVEN TRUE, IMPEACHMENT AND ARREST AND IMPRISONMENT IS WARRANTED.  

And forever and whoever voted for this communist traitor and still supports him, you are just as bad him.  
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber - IMPEACH THIS KENYAN COMMUNIST NOW!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2010, 04:46:43 PM
US 'preferred' compassionate release of Lockerbie bomber, says Alex Salmond

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/scotland/7909248/US-preferred-compassionate-release-of-Lockerbie-bomber-says-Alex-Salmond.html

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The US Government told Scottish officials that the Lockerbie bomber's release on compassionate grounds was ''far preferable'' to his transfer back to a Libyan jail, it was revealed today.
 
Published: 4:17PM BST 25 Jul 2010

 
Speaking to Sky News today, Mr Salmond said: ''I think a fair description of the American Government's position is that they didn't want al-Megrahi to be released. Photo: EPA Scotland's First Minister Alex Salmond said today that while America ''didn't want'' Abdelbaset al-Megrahi to be released, they would rather see him freed on account of his terminal cancer, than under the prisoner transfer agreement between the UK and Libya.

Megrahi is the only person convicted of the 1988 bombing in which 270 people were killed.

Libyan oil tycoons made £100,000 gift to Tories He was released in August last year after doctors said he was dying of prostate cancer and had three months to live - prompting fury in the US.

Last week, President Barack Obama told a White House press conference that the US had been ''surprised, disappointed and angry'' about Megrahi being released.

Speaking to Sky News today, Mr Salmond said: ''I think a fair description of the American Government's position is that they didn't want al-Megrahi to be released.

''However, if he was to be released, they thought it was far preferable for compassionate release as opposed to the prisoner transfer agreement.''

He also said this opposition was probably because the so-called ''deal in the desert'', signed by ex-Prime Minister Tony Blair, which paved the way for the prisoner transfer agreement, was signed at the same time as an oil deal with Libya.

But the American Ambassador to the UK Louis Susman said the US had ''strongly objected'' to any type of release.

He said the US was examining whether its correspondence over the issue could be released but refused to be drawn on the reported memo.

''What you saw in the (Sunday) Times was supposedly a leaked memo or letter which did not state the facts of the letter and we don't comment on correspondence between two governments until both governments agree to release it,'' he told BBC Radio 4's The World This Weekend.

He added: ''It is quite clear that the US government was strongly against the release of Megrahi. We had a mutual understanding with the British Government that if he was tried and convicted he would serve his entire sentence in Scotland.

''The fact that the justice minister made a decision on compassionate grounds to release him was something we were not in favour of.

''We obviously had conversations with them in which we strongly objected to any type of release.''

Calls for the decision to release Megrahi to be re-examined grew in volume in the wake of the Gulf of Mexico Oil spill, and reports that BP had lobbied for the bomber to be freed.

The US Senate Foreign Relations Committee announced plans for an inquiry into the bomber's release, but Scottish justice secretary Kenny MacAskill and former foreign secretary Jack Straw have both rejected calls to give evidence in person.

And Mr Salmond today repeated that the Scottish Government had no contact with BP in the build up to Megrahi's release on compassionate grounds.

Megrahi's release on compassionate grounds was on the basis of a medical report which indicated he had three months to live - but next month will mark a year since he was freed.

Mr Salmond today insisted that estimating life expectancy for terminal cancer sufferers is not an ''exact science''.

He said the report compiled by Scottish Prison Service director of health Andrew Fraser was done in consultation with experts from the NHS in Scotland.

Ministers have published the report which concluded a three-month prognosis was reasonable.
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber - IMPEACH THIS KENYAN COMMUNIST NOW!
Post by: Fury on July 25, 2010, 04:50:04 PM
Man, this guy lies about EVERYTHING. What a fucking dirt bag. 

Did al-Megrahi show compassion towards the 270 people he blew out of the sky? Disgusting. ::)
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2010, 04:56:48 PM
I have said it from day 1, and more people are waking up daily, Obama is a communist traitorous sleeper cell manchurian pofs who duped 52.3 percent of people to vote for him. 

Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2010, 04:28:35 AM
The silence on this thread is very telling from the obama cult.
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: pro nitrousADRL on July 26, 2010, 04:30:00 AM
they are waiting for the next palin breaking story to happen.
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2010, 04:32:27 AM
they are waiting for the next palin breaking story to happen.

I'm going to post a thread later how all the little communist fag reporters on JournoList conspired to destry her and the emails to prove it.

 

 
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: pro nitrousADRL on July 26, 2010, 04:36:36 AM
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I'm going to post a thread later how all the little communist fag reporters on JournoList conspired to destry her and the emails to prove it.

you know the lib goof troop on here will just spin it, then call you names after you present more facts to them
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2010, 04:39:53 AM
you know the lib goof troop on here will just spin it, then call you names after you present more facts to them

I just posted it.  This whole story of JournoList, the more that comes out, is going to be like a Silver stake in the heart of Dracula. 

Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2010, 08:36:18 AM
Bump for mons, Danny, and blacken. 
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: kcballer on July 26, 2010, 08:57:25 AM
You've skewed the words here a bit 333.  "Nevertheless, if Scottish authorities come to the conclusion that Megrahi must be released from Scottish custody, the US position is that conditional release on compassionate grounds would be a far preferable alternative to prisoner transfer, which we strongly oppose."

It doesn't say they wanted him released at all.  Just that the US position was that a compassionate release was better than a prison transfer.  In the end Scotland made the decision to release him. 

Please read properly what it actually says.  You are entitled to your own opinion, not to your own facts.
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Danny on July 26, 2010, 09:00:09 AM
You've skewed the words here a bit 333.  "Nevertheless, if Scottish authorities come to the conclusion that Megrahi must be released from Scottish custody, the US position is that conditional release on compassionate grounds would be a far preferable alternative to prisoner transfer, which we strongly oppose."

It doesn't say they wanted him released at all.  Just that the US position was that a compassionate release was better than a prison transfer.  In the end Scotland made the decision to release him. 

Please read properly what it actually says.  You are entitled to your own opinion, not to your own facts.

Facts....opinions...who cares. They KNOW they are always right. Down with the communist traitor!  ;D
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2010, 09:00:22 AM
 ::)  ::)

And everyone with a freaking clue knew that the doctors report of this murderer dying within 3 months was bogus, unless of course you are a useful idiot of the left.  

This guy needs a bullet in the back of the head, not a release.  
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2010, 09:01:17 AM
Facts....opinions...who cares. They KNOW they are always right. Down with the communist traitor!  ;D

Fact - Obama did not protest the release and do whatever he possibly could to stop this. 

Case closed. 
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: kcballer on July 26, 2010, 09:08:38 AM
Fact - Obama did not protest the release and do whatever he possibly could to stop this. 

Case closed. 

 ::) Scotland is it's own country it can make it's own decisions.  You're clutching at straws here because you've been called on the lies and opinion rather than facts of the matter. 
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2010, 09:12:18 AM
::) Scotland is it's own country it can make it's own decisions.  You're clutching at straws here because you've been called on the lies and opinion rather than facts of the matter. 

What is opinion? 

Obama could have used the bully pulpit like he did for health care and for UE extension to stop this and did nothing.  Maybe this is why? 



Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: kcballer on July 26, 2010, 09:18:07 AM
Why would he interfere with a sovereign nations decision?  He, through the US embassy, expressed they didn't want him to be released.  You want him to go to war with an ally over this? 
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: kcballer on July 26, 2010, 09:20:01 AM
Face it you've lied on this.  You say they backed the release when it says they didn't support his release at all.  But viewed his release as better than a transfer.  Way to skew the facts of the matter. 
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2010, 09:21:38 AM
Why would he interfere with a sovereign nations decision?  He, through the US embassy, expressed they didn't want him to be released.  You want him to go to war with an ally over this? 

Maybe becaused they killed at least 30 of our citizens?

Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: kcballer on July 26, 2010, 09:26:34 AM
Maybe becaused they killed at least 30 of our citizens?



I'm not defending the bombing or the release here 333.  But you are trying to act as if Obama asked them to release them and supported it whole-heartedly.  Yet the quotes from the letter you say is evidence of Obama backing it say nothing of the sort.  They do say he did not want him released.  Then it says that our of two scenarios, both of which are not in favor of in the first place, they believe compassionate release to be the better option.  That doesn't mean the admin supported his release and in fact Obama went on to condemn the release shortly after it happened. 

Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2010, 09:29:30 AM
I'm not defending the bombing or the release here 333.  But you are trying to act as if Obama asked them to release them and supported it whole-heartedly.  Yet the quotes from the letter you say is evidence of Obama backing it say nothing of the sort.  They do say he did not want him released.  Then it says that our of two scenarios, both of which are not in favor of in the first place, they believe compassionate release to be the better option.  That doesn't mean the admin supported his release and in fact Obama went on to condemn the release shortly after it happened. 



Fact of the matter is that Obama did not do everything he could to stop this.  Then, he opted for the pussy choice, buying into the lies of the arabs, as he is one himself, that this murderer only had three months to live. 

Fuck obama, piss, shit, and pigs blood be upon him.   

Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Fury on July 26, 2010, 09:37:47 AM
Excerpt from what Robert Spencer had to say about this and which pretty much sums up this shameful act:

"And so the key question that should be posed to Barack Obama today is why he believed that "compassionate" release was preferable for this remorseless mass murderer than time in a Libyan jail. And if his administration approved of al-Megrahi's "compassionate" release, or at least had green-lighted it as a possibility before it occurred, why were U.S. officials "surprised, disappointed and angry" when it actually happened? Were any quid pro quos involved, either from Libya, whose strongman Muammar Gaddafi has lavishly praised Obama, or from Great Britain?"

An even better question is, "Why did they knowingly let Libya shop around for a doctor that would diagnose him with the magical 3 months to live tag?"

What a sad affair and a slap in the face to the hundreds of innocent civilians that were blown out of the sky on that day. While they're dead this guy gets to live out the rest of his life in peace.

If the US or Britain had any scruples they'd send a team to take care of this guy.
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2010, 09:40:27 AM
This is another example, amongst the literally thousands of others, that to believe and support Obama, you have to support terrorists, marxists, communists, far left radicals, and other anti-American forces.

   
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: blacken700 on July 26, 2010, 09:40:57 AM
333386 spreading more lies as facts :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D your posts are getting so bogus that only the morans are believing them :D :D :D yes moran with an a ;D
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Fury on July 26, 2010, 09:45:15 AM
Blacken the retard, incapable of posting a coherent sentence without using a smattering of emoticons to drive home his idiotic points.  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2010, 09:46:33 AM
333386 spreading more lies as facts :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D your posts are getting so bogus that only the morans are believing them :D :D :D yes moran with an a ;D

What is the lie I am spreading? 
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2010, 09:52:45 AM
Blogs Home » News » World » Nile Gardiner
Nile Gardiner is a Washington-based foreign affairs analyst and political commentator. He appears frequently on American and British television and radio, including Fox News Channel, CNN, BBC, Sky News, and NPR. Barack Obama must also answer questions over the Lockerbie bomber's release

 
By Nile Gardiner World Last updated: July 26th, 2010

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The Lockerbie scandal has just become even murkier. According to a Sunday Times report yesterday “the US government secretly advised Scottish ministers that it would be “far preferable” to free the Lockerbie bomber than jail him in Libya.”

The newspaper obtained a leaked document which reveals that Richard LeBaron, deputy head of the US embassy in London, had written to Alex Salmond, Scottish First Minister, ahead of the release of the Lockerbie bomber. The correspondence indicates that the Obama administration’s opposition to the “compassionate” release of the Lockerbie bomber may not have been as clear-cut as it has subsequently claimed.

In the August 12, 2009 letter, the senior US official appeared to condone “a conditional release on compassionate grounds” of convicted Libyan intelligence agent Abdelbaset al-Megrahi, if Scottish officials were determined to proceed with the release of al-Megrahi against the wishes of Washington. As The Sunday Times revealed:

The note added: “Nevertheless, if Scottish authorities come to the conclusion that Megrahi must be released from Scottish custody, the US position is that conditional release on compassionate grounds would be a far preferable alternative to prisoner transfer, which we strongly oppose.” LeBaron added that freeing the bomber and making him live in Scotland “would mitigate a number of the strong concerns we have expressed with regard to Megrahi’s release”.

As the piece points out, this clearly contradicts President Obama’s assertion at his joint White House press conference last week with the British Prime Minister that “all of us here in the United States were surprised, disappointed and angry” upon learning of Megrahi’s release.  Here is what Barack Obama said when he appeared alongside David Cameron on July 20:

I think all of us here in the United States were surprised, disappointed, and angry about the release of the Lockerbie bomber.  And my administration expressed very clearly our objections prior to the decision being made and subsequent to the decision being made.  So we welcome any additional information that will give us insights and a better understanding of why the decision was made.

This latest revelation in the Lockerbie debacle should not diminish the responsibility of Scottish authorities in the disgraceful release of a mass-murdering terrorist who killed 270 people. Nor should it alleviate the pressure on the Coalition government to hold a full inquiry into the role of British government officials in the bomber’s release. But it does raise serious questions over the Obama administration’s own role in the Lockerbie matter, and whether it did all in its power to try to prevent the release of a terrorist responsible for the killing of 189 Americans.

As I wrote nearly a year ago, President Obama was not as forceful as he might have been in speaking out before Megrahi’s release, and did not appear to make the fight against it a priority:

If returned to Libya he (Megrahi) will receive a hero’s welcome, and both Britain and the United States will be completely humiliated. He might also stage a dramatic recovery. As for the relatives of the victims of the Lockerbie bombing, who have barely been consulted, they will be denied justice. Kenny MacAskill, the Scottish Justice Secretary, must show compassion for the families of those who were murdered, not for the terrorist who savagely killed their loved ones. A direct intervention by President Obama may be the only measure that will prevent Megrahi’s release – it’s time for him to speak out.

This Thursday’s Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on Lockerbie should focus not only on the role of Scottish and British authorities in the shameful release of the bomber, but also upon the messages being sent by the Obama White House and State Department to both the Scottish and British governments ahead of Megrahi’s release. This is a time for complete openness and transparency over Lockerbie on both sides of the Atlantic. David Cameron has pledged to make available some key British government documents dealing with the Lockerbie release. It is time for Barack Obama to do the same with regard to his administration’s Lockerbie correspondence.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100048470/barack-obama-must-also-answer-questions-over-the-lockerbie-bombers-release/



Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: blacken700 on July 26, 2010, 09:59:07 AM
really Nile Gardiner is a British conservative commentator, and director of the Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom at right-wing think tank,

333386=fair and balanced :D :D just like fox news where he gets his information from
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2010, 10:08:06 AM
How about the first article you plagiarising fool?
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Dos Equis on July 26, 2010, 10:35:39 AM
Definitely contradicts the president's statement:

"The document, acquired by a well-placed US source, threatens to undermine US President Barack Obama's claim last week that all Americans were 'surprised, disappointed and angry' to learn of Megrahi's release."

If they advocated for a release instead of a transfer, then they could not have been "surprised, disappointed and angry."  Very misleading. 
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2010, 10:38:24 AM
Definitely contradicts the president's statement:

"The document, acquired by a well-placed US source, threatens to undermine US President Barack Obama's claim last week that all Americans were 'surprised, disappointed and angry' to learn of Megrahi's release."

If they advocated for a release instead of a transfer, then they could not have been "surprised, disappointed and angry."  Very misleading. 


Again, to believe Obama, you have to believer terrorists, communists, marxists, and other far left anti-american forces. 
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 08, 2010, 10:51:48 AM
BUMP
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 25, 2011, 11:00:55 AM
BUMP
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2011, 01:30:56 PM
Lockerbie bomber 'appears on Libyan state television'
telegraph.co.uk ^ | July 26, 2011




Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi, was convicted and sentenced to life in prison for the bombing of Flight 103, in which 270 people died in 1988.

The broadcast showed pictures of Megrahi in a wheelchair and a voiceover described him as a victim of colonialism, according to BBC World.

The pictures compounded embarassment in the Scottish Executive which appears to have seized on a misdiagnosis to grant parole on medical grounds in 2009.

He was expected to live less that 90 days but has since passed more than 400 days in his native Libya.

Two Libyan state employees were put on trial in The Hague under Scottish law for the bombing of Flight 103, in which 270 people died in 1988. A former Libyan foreign minister this month admitted the country was involved in the Lockerbie bombing but said for the first time it was part of a wider c

Abdul Rahman al-Shalgham, who was ambassador to the United Nations when he defected in February, revealed a new theory about who was responsible for the explosion on board Pan-Am Flight 103 in an interview with an Arabic newspaper.

"The Lockerbie bombing was a complex and tangled operation" he said, when asked to describe the background to the disaster. "There was talk at the time of the roles played by states and organisations. Libyan security played a part but I believe it was not a strictly Libyan operation."


(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...



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GREAT JOB OBAMA YOU TRAITOR! 
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: kcballer on July 26, 2011, 01:34:14 PM
fu*k you're a moron 333.  What part of Scotland is it's own country do you not understand?

The administration preferred one option over another, but does not say they preferred the release over non release and in fact they have openly said they did not want him released. 

Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Option D on July 26, 2011, 02:16:32 PM
Fact - Obama did not protest the release and do whatever he possibly could to stop this. 

Case closed. 


hahahahhahahahahaa.. he did not protest.. get the fuck out of here  with that weak ass shit..
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2011, 02:17:47 PM

hahahahhahahahahaa.. he did not protest.. get the fuck out of here  with that weak ass shit..

Oh thats right - he started another war.  My bad. 
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Option D on July 26, 2011, 02:18:21 PM
Fact - Obama did not protest the release and do whatever he possibly could to stop this. 

Case closed. 

there is a difference between "backing" and " not protesting." man youre weak as fuck for this monkey bullshit?

I dont back the beating of a kid because i dont protest it.. please tell me thats not your line of thinking
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Option D on July 26, 2011, 02:19:19 PM
aye man.. this dude is stupid as fuck... like for real...

not protesting= backing.. are you a fucking moron or what..
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2011, 02:20:12 PM
Please - this is typical kneepadding and excuses for obama.  

Time to stop the bullshit - even cornel west, Dyson, and tavis smiley are no longer making excuses for this piece of trash you shilled for.  

About time you caught up no?  
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2011, 02:20:50 PM
aye man.. this dude is stupid as fuck... like for real...

not protesting= backing.. are you a fucking moron or what..

He backed "compassionate release"   - YES OR NO? 
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: kcballer on July 26, 2011, 02:26:57 PM
He backed "compassionate release"   - YES OR NO? 

As opposed to a straight transfer.  But he favored neither option over leaving him in a jail cell.

Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 27, 2011, 03:40:06 AM
Even morning Joe is now saying this looks bad for that commie dirtbag Obama.
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Option D on July 27, 2011, 07:22:13 AM
hahahaha your stance softens like baby shit...

OBAMA BACKS RELEASE!!!!!!!!!

Well.. He didnt say protest it

Well.. even Joe blow says this looks bad...


hahahahahaha You are weak as fuck.. Your weak ass headlines are nothing more than faggy whiny Obama bashing articles...hahahahah

Man that shit is hella weak 
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 27, 2011, 07:24:17 AM
hahahaha your stance softens like baby shit...

OBAMA BACKS RELEASE!!!!!!!!!

Well.. He didnt say protest it

Well.. even Joe blow says this looks bad...


hahahahahaha You are weak as fuck.. Your weak ass headlines are nothing more than faggy whiny Obama bashing articles...hahahahah

Man that shit is hella weak 


Yes he did back it.   "COMPASSIONATE RELEASE" 


Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 27, 2011, 07:27:37 AM
Scottish ministers viewed the level of US resistance to compassionate release as "half-hearted" and a sign it would be accepted.

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Mal & vince and KC now know more than those who dealt with this. 
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Option D on July 27, 2011, 07:27:56 AM

Yes he did back it.   "COMPASSIONATE RELEASE" 



So im about to type "obama backs" or Obama Supports Release of lockerbie bomber

Lets see if something comes up...

now im giving you a chance to come clean and say "yeah this is just bullshit hyperbole"...

If you dont.. it will be another notch on my belt.
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Option D on July 27, 2011, 07:29:54 AM
last chance?????????
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 27, 2011, 07:30:33 AM
White House backed release of Lockerbie bomber Abdel Baset al-Megrahi

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/white-house-backed-release-of-lockerbie-bomber-abdel-baset-al-megrahi/story-e6frg6so-1225896741041


Jason Allardyce and Tony Allen-Mills From: The Australian July 26, 2010

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TAKE IT UP WITH THE AUTHOR OF PIECE MAL.


BRO - AT ANY POINT DO YOU EVER GET ASHAMED OF HOW BAD YOU LOOK STILL DEFENDING OBAMA?  
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Option D on July 27, 2011, 07:39:23 AM
White House backed release of Lockerbie bomber Abdel Baset al-Megrahi

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/white-house-backed-release-of-lockerbie-bomber-abdel-baset-al-megrahi/story-e6frg6so-1225896741041


Jason Allardyce and Tony Allen-Mills From: The Australian July 26, 2010

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TAKE IT UP WITH THE AUTHOR OF PIECE MAL.


BRO - AT ANY POINT DO YOU EVER GET ASHAMED OF HOW BAD YOU LOOK STILL DEFENDING OBAMA?  


Ok.,.. i found some stuff... and no i dont get ashamed, because i dont support Obama. I also dont support Stupidity. Such as "SWAT on grandmothers...errrr. his friend called them...errrr...the police chief called them...errrr...it was police in riot gear that moved the crowd because they were blocking a presidential motorcade....errrrr whatever let me create a thread on getbig about it.....


you dont feel any kind of shame when you do that shit..

when you say
"obama spent $200mil a day" .. .that just dosent phase you...

I would hate being in that position.. like actually be ashamed of being a faggy ass chicken little political hypochondria. Damn.. and im being totally serious right now
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 27, 2011, 07:41:57 AM
Again - take it up with the author of the article.   I posted the thread w the exact title of the piece. 


So fuck off and go Hope & Change yourself.   
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Option D on July 27, 2011, 07:45:42 AM
Now back to this Lockerbie thing. Is it true that this isn't a world wide decision to release him. This isnt a UN conciseness to release him. Or is it the sole decision of a government separate from the Obama lead U.S.

Now even with that decision, that wasn't The US's to make. A decision to release him that was opposed by the US..... was ultimately altered by the US in the best interest of the worlds Security.

Standard Policy would have been to transfer him to Libya correct. But instead he was released and forced to remain in Scotland where it is common knowledge that he will be under more scrutiny than he would have been in Libya.

Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 27, 2011, 07:47:41 AM
Now back to this Lockerbie thing. Is it true that this isn't a world wide decision to release him. This isnt a UN conciseness to release him. Or is it the sole decision of a government separate from the Obama lead U.S.

Now even with that decision, that wasn't The US's to make. A decision to release him that was opposed by the US..... was ultimately altered by the US in the best interest of the worlds Security.

Standard Policy would have been to transfer him to Libya correct. But instead he was released and forced to remain in Scotland where it is common knowledge that he will be under more scrutiny than he would have been in Libya.



LMAO. 

Always an excuse or attempt to alter reality to make obama not look like the pofs he is. 


BTW - he is in lybia now on TV laughing his ass off at the morons who backed his compassioate release.  . 
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Option D on July 27, 2011, 07:51:10 AM
Again - take it up with the author of the article.   I posted the thread w the exact title of the piece. 


So fuck off and go Hope & Change yourself.   

You dont have any sense of reliable fact checking before you post something? Just seems kind of odd that an esq would just go post some unfounded information for fear on how it would reflect on him...Man the integrity is at a zero with you.
Sickening to say the least. Disgusting...You are what is wrong with my country and are part of the problem. Instead of going on bare boned facts.. you pass on any bullshit article about someone without checking the validity of the information, and when challenged on it your response is a simple "well they wrote it...not my problem"..like serious?  Thats your response?.. man you weren't raised with a whole bunch of emphases placed on accountability were you. You might be worse than cable news
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Option D on July 27, 2011, 07:52:14 AM
LMAO. 

Always an excuse or attempt to alter reality to make obama not look like the pofs he is. 


BTW - he is in lybia now on TV laughing his ass off at the morons who backed his compassioate release.  . 

but you didnt dispute anything i just said.. you just offered a typical 3333 response which is "avoid facts at all costs.. and say something disgusting about the leader of my country"
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 27, 2011, 07:52:50 AM
lmao 

This dirtbag is on TV in Lybia laughing his ass off at the disgusting dupes and morons like obama who backed this crap. 
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Option D on July 27, 2011, 07:53:47 AM
Sunday Times: "[T]he United States wanted Megrahi to remain imprisoned." The Sunday Times article made clear that the administration supported keeping Megrahi imprisoned, but that in the event he was released, they preferred to release him in Scotland rather than send him to Libya. From the Sunday Times (accessed via Factiva):

In the letter, sent on August 12 last year to Alex Salmond, the first minister, and justice officials, [deputy head of the London US embassy Richard] LeBaron wrote that the United States wanted Megrahi to remain imprisoned in view of the nature of the crime.

The note added: "Nevertheless, if Scottish authorities come to the conclusion that Megrahi must be released from Scottish custody, the US position is that conditional release on compassionate grounds would be a far preferable alternative to prisoner transfer, which we strongly oppose." LeBaron added that freeing the bomber and making him live in Scotland "would mitigate a number of the strong concerns we have expressed with regard to Megrahi's release".

The US administration lobbied the Scottish government more strongly against sending Megrahi home under a prisoner transfer agreement signed by the British and Libyan governments -- in a deal now known to have been linked to a £550m oil contract for BP.

It claimed this would flout a decade-old agreement reached by the UK and US governments that anyone convicted of the bombing would serve their sentence in a Scottish prison.
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Option D on July 27, 2011, 07:56:45 AM
lmao 

This dirtbag is on TV in Lybia laughing his ass off at the disgusting dupes and morons like obama who backed this crap. 

And what is your definition of "backed"...and i see you wont respond to my other posts.. hahaha im just fucking with you.. im serious in my assertion of your character.. but hey, you can live with yourself while passing along false information, and not atleast being accountable, who am i to stop you.

but again, what is your definition of "Backed"
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 27, 2011, 08:00:01 AM
Very simple - just like the people in Scotland said - obama;'s efforts were half ass and they took it as a sign he approved of it. 

Had obama wanted this guy kept in jail, you are telling me he was powerless?  Come one now.   He can start a war on his own yet he cant keep a bomber in jail? 


LMFAO 
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Option D on July 27, 2011, 08:05:46 AM
Very simple - just like the people in Scotland said - obama;'s efforts were half ass and they took it as a sign he approved of it. 

Had obama wanted this guy kept in jail, you are telling me he was powerless?  Come one now.   He can start a war on his own yet he cant keep a bomber in jail? 


LMFAO 

So in other words.. you dont have a definition to state.. typical... very typical.. hey.. im done.. it was fun again.. about to go do some squat jumps...let me know when you get something concrete... gracias
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 27, 2011, 11:49:35 AM
Lockerbie bomber attends pro-Kadhafi meeting
yahoo.com ^




Ailing Libyan agent Abdelbaset Ali Mohmet al-Megrahi, convicted for life over the 1988 Lockerbie bombing, made his first public appearance in nearly two years at a meeting in support of strongman Moamer Kadhafi. Megrahi, 59, who has terminal cancer, was released from a Scottish jail on compassionate grounds in August 2009. He is the only man convicted over the bombing of Pan Am flight 103 which killed 270 people, mostly US nationals.

Television images showed an emaciated Megrahi on Tuesday, sitting on a wheelchair, at a meeting of his tribe in support of the embattled Kadhafi's regime.

His last public appearance was a September 2009 meeting ...


(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...

Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 29, 2012, 09:05:42 AM
BUMP
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: blacken700 on February 29, 2012, 09:30:15 AM
guess who's the commie who gave this answer, the question,  Do you still think kadaffi should be breathing?, Yes.  he turned a leaf after 9/11 and gave us tons of intel after 9/11 and abandoned his wmd
 :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 29, 2012, 09:54:03 AM
guess who's the commie who gave this answer, the question,  Do you still think kadaffi should be breathing?, Yes.  he turned a leaf after 9/11 and gave us tons of intel after 9/11 and abandoned his wmd
 :D :D :D :D :D

And look where we are now asshole - tribal gangs and radical islamists have taken over, just like Egypt. 

 

Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: blacken700 on February 29, 2012, 10:00:28 AM
turned a new leaf is the new get out of jail card,according to 333386,sounds like a pretty liberal idea
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Option D on February 29, 2012, 10:31:09 AM

Sunday Times: "[T]he United States wanted Megrahi to remain imprisoned." The Sunday Times article made clear that the administration supported keeping Megrahi imprisoned, but that in the event he was released, they preferred to release him in Scotland rather than send him to Libya. From the Sunday Times (accessed via Factiva):

In the letter, sent on August 12 last year to Alex Salmond, the first minister, and justice officials, [deputy head of the London US embassy Richard] LeBaron wrote that the United States wanted Megrahi to remain imprisoned in view of the nature of the crime.

The note added: "Nevertheless, if Scottish authorities come to the conclusion that Megrahi must be released from Scottish custody, the US position is that conditional release on compassionate grounds would be a far preferable alternative to prisoner transfer, which we strongly oppose." LeBaron added that freeing the bomber and making him live in Scotland "would mitigate a number of the strong concerns we have expressed with regard to Megrahi's release".

The US administration lobbied the Scottish government more strongly against sending Megrahi home under a prisoner transfer agreement signed by the British and Libyan governments -- in a deal now known to have been linked to a £550m oil contract for BP.

It claimed this would flout a decade-old agreement reached by the UK and US governments that anyone convicted of the bombing would serve their sentence in a Scottish prison
Title: Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 29, 2012, 10:37:18 AM
So again - obama is powerless and cant do anything right?   


Its all excuses 24/7 for the messiah. 

We have the Ray Nagin presidency