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Title: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: tonymctones on July 25, 2010, 07:08:15 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_usa_immigration_arizona

"scores of illegal immigrant families across Phoenix hauling the contents of their homes into the yard this weekend as they rush to sell up and get out before the state law takes effect on Thursday."

"The law, the toughest imposed by any U.S. state to curb illegal immigration, seeks to drive more than 400,000 undocumented day laborers, landscapers, house cleaners, chambermaids and other workers out of Arizona, which borders Mexico."

hmmmm imagine if the US govt enforced the similiar law they have on the books...
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: 240 is Back on July 25, 2010, 07:24:25 PM
doies anyone here doubt amnesty will pass in nov of this year?
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: tonymctones on July 25, 2010, 07:31:42 PM
doies anyone here doubt amnesty will pass in nov of this year?
id make a wager that its doesnt at least not in nov...the economy would have to make a 180 and unemployment would have to be real low...

may pass but not this year...

$10 bucks says it doesnt pass by the end of the year
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: 240 is Back on July 25, 2010, 07:54:06 PM
I'm betting the lame duck dems will give it to obama.  who konws tho.

Or, cap/trade.  he'll push for one of them if the dems lose the house.
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: tonymctones on July 25, 2010, 08:07:56 PM
I'm betting the lame duck dems will give it to obama.  who konws tho.

Or, cap/trade.  he'll push for one of them if the dems lose the house.
im pretty sure the dems are done cramming things down the throat of the American public that they dont approve of by a wide margin at least this close to november...

after november the reps will in all likelihood take enough seats to stop legislation if they all vote no...they might pass immigration reform but I would hope that most politicians have come to realize that the majority of america doesnt want amnesty and they will heed that advice.
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: Skeletor on July 25, 2010, 08:08:27 PM
While many Arizonans will cheer for the illegals "fleeing" their state, it is worrying that many of the illegals will just go to other states and noone seems to care about it. (in the article it says one of them will go to.. Pennsylvania!)
The purpose is to send the illegals back to where they came from, not just to drive them out of Arizona. Is ICE going to monitor all those illegals and where they go?
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: tonymctones on July 25, 2010, 08:21:01 PM
While many Arizonans will cheer for the illegals "fleeing" their state, it is worrying that many of the illegals will just go to other states and noone seems to care about it. (in the article it says one of them will go to.. Pennsylvania!)
The purpose is to send the illegals back to where they came from, not just to drive them out of Arizona. Is ICE going to monitor all those illegals and where they go?
ya I read that as well and it is the role of the federal govt to make sure or borders are secure and detain and deport illegals...all arizona can do is take care of the situation in their own state.
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: drkaje on July 26, 2010, 04:01:15 AM
Pa has a huge hispanic population so they can't pass any laws to curb ilegals.

Good for Ariz, at least they're doing something.
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: pro nitrousADRL on July 26, 2010, 04:16:52 AM
maybe all states should do this  then they wiil flee back to mexico  and try it again the legal way!!      what an idea huh??
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: loco on July 26, 2010, 07:08:12 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_usa_immigration_arizona

"scores of illegal immigrant families across Phoenix hauling the contents of their homes into the yard this weekend as they rush to sell up and get out before the state law takes effect on Thursday."

"The law, the toughest imposed by any U.S. state to curb illegal immigration, seeks to drive more than 400,000 undocumented day laborers, landscapers, house cleaners, chambermaids and other workers out of Arizona, which borders Mexico."

hmmmm imagine if the US govt enforced the similiar law they have on the books...

They are not leaving the US, just Arizona.  They'll just go to another state where they'll get a job and go on with their life as illegal immigrants.
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: Purge_WTF on July 26, 2010, 07:19:10 AM
"The law, the toughest imposed by any U.S. state to curb illegal immigration, seeks to drive more than 400,000 undocumented day laborers, landscapers, house cleaners, chambermaids and other workers out of Arizona, which borders Mexico."

 Yes, yes! 

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Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2010, 07:45:21 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_usa_immigration_arizona

"scores of illegal immigrant families across Phoenix hauling the contents of their homes into the yard this weekend as they rush to sell up and get out before the state law takes effect on Thursday."

"The law, the toughest imposed by any U.S. state to curb illegal immigration, seeks to drive more than 400,000 undocumented day laborers, landscapers, house cleaners, chambermaids and other workers out of Arizona, which borders Mexico."

hmmmm imagine if the US govt enforced the similiar law they have on the books...

Good, time to go home and re-build Mexico. 
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: tonymctones on July 26, 2010, 07:49:48 AM
They are not leaving the US, just Arizona.  They'll just go to another state where they'll get a job and go on with their life as illegal immigrants.
I know that loco but what if the federal govt started to enforce the similar law they had on the books? what if more states passed laws like this?

where would they have left to go?
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: loco on July 26, 2010, 09:13:53 AM
I know that loco but what if the federal govt started to enforce the similar law they had on the books? what if more states passed laws like this?

where would they have left to go?

The federal government wants illegal immigrants to stay.
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: tonymctones on July 26, 2010, 09:33:31 AM
The federal government wants illegal immigrants to stay.
the majority of america doesnt...
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: Purge_WTF on July 26, 2010, 10:25:13 AM
the majority of america doesnt...

  True, but you should've realized by now that the Fed doesn't work in our best interests. The big businesses that our government is in bed with need the cheap labor that illegal immigrants provide, so they'll pull strings and keep things the way they are now.
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: loco on July 26, 2010, 10:29:34 AM
  True, but you should've realized by now that the Fed doesn't work in our best interests. The big businesses that our government is in bed with need the cheap labor that illegal immigrants provide, so they'll pull strings and keep things the way they are now.

Exactly, plus illegal immigrants using fake Social Security numbers or numbers belonging to dead people are contributing much to Social security, but will never collect those benefits.
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: loco on July 26, 2010, 10:31:05 AM
the majority of america doesnt...

Good!  Neither do I.  Just stating the facts.
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: Dos Equis on July 26, 2010, 10:38:42 AM
Amazing how this law has had a deterrent effect and it's not even enforceable yet. 
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: Montague on July 26, 2010, 10:44:20 AM
Amazing how this law has had a deterrent effect and it's not even enforceable yet. 


I immediately thought the same thing upon reading the first post.

Which other states are considering enacting a similar law?
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2010, 10:47:49 AM

I immediately thought the same thing upon reading the first post.

Which other states are considering enacting a similar law?

Hopefully the other 56. 

Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: Dos Equis on July 26, 2010, 10:57:43 AM

I immediately thought the same thing upon reading the first post.

Which other states are considering enacting a similar law?

Check out this thread:  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=343007.0
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: Montague on July 26, 2010, 10:58:58 AM
Hopefully the other 56. 




58 if you count Europe.

Oh, wait...
I forgot that's a country.
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: Montague on July 26, 2010, 11:00:00 AM
Check out this thread:  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=343007.0


Nice!
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: Fury on July 26, 2010, 11:27:59 AM
Exactly, plus illegal immigrants using fake Social Security numbers or numbers belonging to dead people are contributing much to Social security, but will never collect those benefits.

You're REALLY using that as an argument in favor of illegal immigration? Get the fuck out of here.
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: loco on July 26, 2010, 11:46:21 AM
You're REALLY using that as an argument in favor of illegal immigration? Get the fuck out of here.

No, I'm using that as yet another reason why the federal government does not want illegals to leave.  I do not benefit from US Social Security, and neither do you, not yet and possibly won't in the future either.  But the federal government borrows money from Social Security.

I do not, and have never favored illegal immigration.  I believe it should be illegal.
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: Hereford on July 26, 2010, 01:09:44 PM
It has nothing to do with what is right or what the people of America want. It's about locking up votes for the Democrats by getting as many new public-assistance dependents as possible.

Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: loco on July 26, 2010, 01:39:07 PM
It has nothing to do with what is right or what the people of America want. It's about locking up votes for the Democrats by getting as many new public-assistance dependents as possible.



Yes, but Republicans want illegal immigrants to stay too, because Republicans answer to big business too.
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: Hereford on July 26, 2010, 01:43:36 PM
I still haven't really figured out why the unions don't take up arms against illegals. It seems to me wetbacks would symbolize everything the union man crusades against.
Title: Re: Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2010, 01:45:14 PM
I still haven't really figured out why the unions don't take up arms against illegals. It seems to me wetbacks would symbolize everything the union man crusades against.

Because they think they can make these people join the unions once they get amnesty to swell their ranks and collect more union dues.