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Title: best ugl
Post by: tstmaniac on July 28, 2010, 02:16:17 PM
Experienced users list the top underground labs and your experiences!
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: Arnold jr on July 28, 2010, 02:25:28 PM
The one that you don't use or buy from.

OK, a bit of a smart ass answer but it is the absolute truth.
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: jerseymuscles113 on July 28, 2010, 02:40:23 PM
lol maniac i thought you only had a problem with gear recently?
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: tstmaniac on July 28, 2010, 03:00:52 PM
AJ why do you think im posting this lol? Dam you are a smart ass..i mostly us human grade gear and jinan pharm for tren...but im lookin for a new ugl for eq and masteron..
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: Arnold jr on July 28, 2010, 03:21:36 PM
AJ why do you think im posting this lol? Dam you are a smart ass..i mostly us human grade gear and jinan pharm for tren...but im lookin for a new ugl for eq and masteron..

Yes, it was a smart ass response, I know, but I've been anti-UGL for a long, long time. The only UGL I've ever recommended in my life is the original GPL out of NY and that's been gone for a few years now...owner took his own life back. Now back in the day there were some other decent UGL's but I haven't heard of one in awhile that is 5-star, of course I'll admit, I haven't been looking but even without looking I am aware of a ton of pure garbage.

Now, Jinan Pharm, they are what I call a hybrid. Not really a UGL but also something you won't find on the back shelf of the Walgreens Pharma. They're sort of a niche.
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: 4thAD on July 28, 2010, 05:08:51 PM
GPL did have a great brew, but I still wonder how clean it was. GPL was basically a kitchen type operation. Made in his home, not a real lab. I suspect even as potent as his gear was his powders were still sub-par as far as contaminations go(heavy metals, etc). Personally the only UG I use is Axio/Syntrop. Nothing else will I touch.
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: tstmaniac on July 28, 2010, 06:08:09 PM
What is gen.?
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: BodyMachine on July 28, 2010, 06:14:39 PM
add an X to that and you'll know. If I'm not mistaken
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: Szabi on July 29, 2010, 03:45:58 AM
Do you know something about the SB Laboratories? Is it UGL or legit company?
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: jon cole on July 29, 2010, 04:44:35 AM
the "UG" market seems to be over-developped in USA, in europe is really easy to get HG, do you have acces to HG easily?

   
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: Szabi on July 29, 2010, 09:42:50 AM
I am from Hungary. Most of the gear we use here are from China. Tren, Deca, Stanozolol, Boldenon are Chinese stuff. We use thai methandienone and oxymetholone. The most popular test is the Galenika test enanthate and the pakistan Sust. We also have greek Deca. Tamoxiphen, clomiphen and Clen are Hungarian products.
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: CAPTAIN INSANO on July 29, 2010, 03:58:04 PM
Plenty of GREAT ugl...

Seems you guys are looking in the wrong places  :-\
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: tstmaniac on July 29, 2010, 04:16:43 PM
Name some broski?
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: CAPTAIN INSANO on July 29, 2010, 04:55:49 PM
Name some broski?


CC, Sciroxx, Beast Gear, TSA,Syn,Mercy, and the list goes on...
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: tstmaniac on July 29, 2010, 06:15:50 PM
Out of that list...which do u think is the most potent and sterile?
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: g101 on July 29, 2010, 09:41:38 PM
underground garbage doesn't get you anywhere

legit hg = the shit and actually feel/look like a bodybuilder and always have the godly mindset

 ;)
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: Arnold jr on July 29, 2010, 10:51:40 PM
Out of that list...which do u think is the most potent and sterile?
You see here's the thing...it is almost impossible to know. Sure, you could have your product tested, run lab test to check dosage and bacteria levels, if you had the means but even then you're not out of the water. Let's say you test your test-e from a UG source and it comes out dosed correctly and clean for the most part...I say "for the most part" because it wasn't made in a controlled environment...OK, great, but now you'll have to test each batch from each batch number, again, because it's not made in a controlled environment.

Here's the next thing, some UG's start out OK, they at times though get sloppy, especially once they get bigger. Further, the odds that they're using top-shelf powders to make their products are about a million to one...not good odds.

In my opinion, in this day in age it makes no sense to use UG gear. The quality is unknown, always will be, the risk is far greater in terms of health and legal. HG gear is readily available both with a prescription or without if you so choose.

UGL gear makes no sense...zero...none at all.
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: tstmaniac on July 30, 2010, 06:22:20 AM
I wouldnt use an ugl but i need masteron so i have no choice...so i would like to know the labs in which people had the least amount of problems in
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: CAPTAIN INSANO on July 30, 2010, 01:50:40 PM
You see here's the thing...it is almost impossible to know. Sure, you could have your product tested, run lab test to check dosage and bacteria levels, if you had the means but even then you're not out of the water. Let's say you test your test-e from a UG source and it comes out dosed correctly and clean for the most part...I say "for the most part" because it wasn't made in a controlled environment...OK, great, but now you'll have to test each batch from each batch number, again, because it's not made in a controlled environment.

Here's the next thing, some UG's start out OK, they at times though get sloppy, especially once they get bigger. Further, the odds that they're using top-shelf powders to make their products are about a million to one...not good odds.

In my opinion, in this day in age it makes no sense to use UG gear. The quality is unknown, always will be, the risk is far greater in terms of health and legal. HG gear is readily available both with a prescription or without if you so choose.

UGL gear makes no sense...zero...none at all.

I disagree, but to each their own...

I ALWAYS run HG Test for a base for my cycle.

Have to go UGL for other compounds i.e Tren Masteronn EQ etc..
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: tstmaniac on July 30, 2010, 05:39:08 PM
Has anyone ever used axio labs masteron?
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: 4thAD on July 31, 2010, 10:22:10 AM
Has anyone ever used axio labs masteron?

I used in my last run after the tren. Killer compound.
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: jtsunami on July 31, 2010, 08:24:28 PM
I used in my last run after the tren. Killer compound.

x2 I almost died from the pain of axio's shit, Endyson is good if get it in the regular dose, avoid the test 500. 
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: tstmaniac on July 31, 2010, 10:38:02 PM
I had problems with axio about a year ago...when did you use it?
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: jtsunami on August 01, 2010, 04:25:26 AM
I had problems with axio about a year ago...when did you use it?

when it first came out, i don't know years ago.



Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: Arnold jr on August 01, 2010, 04:36:52 AM
This thread makes me want to rip my own eyes out!
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: tstmaniac on August 01, 2010, 07:20:02 AM
Why?
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: jerseymuscles113 on August 01, 2010, 09:52:59 AM
because AJ hates ugls lol
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on August 01, 2010, 12:09:22 PM
There are several very good private brewers but key word is private.  I used RBB gear back in the day until he was busted. He was an actual chemist and although he brewed in his garage it was some very high quality gear.  The only other brand I would use is Sciroxx.  I think they put out a good clean product and if I remember correctly their gear came back pretty clean and accurate in William Llwellyn's book.  If anyone recommends Axio/Syntrop Id' say Sciroxx is easily as reputable. 
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: War-Horse on August 01, 2010, 08:52:52 PM
There are several very good private brewers but key word is private.  I used RBB gear back in the day until he was busted. He was an actual chemist and although he brewed in his garage it was some very high quality gear.  The only other brand I would use is Sciroxx.  I think they put out a good clean product and if I remember correctly their gear came back pretty clean and accurate in William Llwellyn's book.  If anyone recommends Axio/Syntrop Id' say Sciroxx is easily as reputable. 


rbb is still running.  Do you think the potency is down?
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: benchmstr on August 01, 2010, 09:10:43 PM
another question to be asked.....lets say its human grade made by a country with really shitty standards?....where do you draw the line?

bench
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: 4thAD on August 01, 2010, 09:14:37 PM

rbb is still running.  Do you think the potency is down?

He resells mostly HG gear.
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: War-Horse on August 01, 2010, 10:19:47 PM
He resells mostly HG gear.


Wow. His prices r ug low!! I think i saw 80.00 for eq or deca.....
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on August 01, 2010, 11:34:14 PM

rbb is still running.  Do you think the potency is down?

Shit sorry man I didn't mean RBB I meant PBL.  RBB I have not used. 
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: jtsunami on August 02, 2010, 07:50:47 PM
another question to be asked.....lets say its human grade made by a country with really shitty standards?....where do you draw the line?

bench

like the USA or something, I wouldn't buy human grade from them or say Israel.  But do you have a country and name of company in mind that you want to ask about?

Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: 4thAD on August 02, 2010, 09:52:07 PM
like the USA or something, I wouldn't buy human grade from them or say Israel.  But do you have a country and name of company in mind that you want to ask about?



You wouldn't use US made test? Why?
Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: jtsunami on August 03, 2010, 06:58:01 PM
You wouldn't use US made test? Why?

i'm just screwing with bench, i would use USA test

Title: Re: best ugl
Post by: makaveli25 on August 05, 2010, 08:13:45 AM
Anyone try univet lately?