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Huge bastard :o he actually has decent form for a pro most do half reps.
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Wolf will guestpose in Japan August 1st,2010
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Wow 4 exercises were with machines and one with a barbell. That's terrible. "He won't peel" either. That video was hardly worth watching >:(
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"He won't peel" either.
Well fuck that shit i'm not watching then...
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Funny at the start when drinking and says "Jim Beam". He is a massive fucker no doubt. But who else is waiting for him to come in to full, waste another year, fire his guru and then bitch about them after. Hope he gets his act together....
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Fucking it up two years in a row should have taught him something. Is he burnt out or as he got the potential to go back to his 2007 shape? He looks massive but the only thing that matters is how he'll show up on stage. 30% chance I'll say that he will prove us wrong.
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if yates n cutler are premium GL policies...then he is insurance fraud.
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as impressive as his "HUGE" 225lbs deadlifts at the end of the vid ;)
the russian wolf sucks bigtime
no back no money
Mr O Top 20 placing - for sure
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as impressive as his "HUGE" 225lbs deadlifts at the end of the vid ;)
the russian wolf sucks bigtime
no back no money
Mr O Top 20 placing - for sure
so far only 21 competitors qualified for Mr.O 2010
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His back reflects the workout he just did
these current pros are so sissy and lazy huge massive man messing about on maching working for the "peak contractions" he better get his ass under some heavy deadlifts rows and dumbell rows... Like Coleman Dorian and culter has done notice culter back didn't come up till he copied Coleman doing those t bar rows in the corner also heavy dumbell rows and barbell rows
weak workout = lacking back (for a pro)
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His back reflects the workout he just did
these current pros are so sissy and lazy huge massive man messing about on maching working for the "peak contractions" he better get his ass under some heavy deadlifts rows and dumbell rows... Like Coleman Dorian and culter has done notice culter back didn't come up till he copied Coleman doing those t bar rows in the corner also heavy dumbell rows and barbell rows
weak workout = lacking back (for a pro)
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For Jay, DL with 3 plates per side is not much I guess and his dumbell rows are far from being heavy. And those guys don't want to get injured so close to the contest I guess also. Then there's the genetic; sure, you'll get some noticeable results from the heavy training but I'd pretty much bet that it's mostly how their body reacts to gear which is responsible for both their strong and weak parts.
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I have videos of jay doin 405 deads at the END of his workout and jay is a column worked he does a lot of excercises I've seen him do like 12 diff excersises for back in a workout decent weights
that workout wolf just did isn't the workout of a man with a weak back for a pro
like I said he had better get his azz under some deadlifts and heavy rows
I HATE seeing these new pros workout big as he'll but sissy talking about peak contraction all that bullshit that's why Coleman = greatest of all time lift fucking heavy. Dorian lifted heavy culter lifts relatively heavy ... As much as people hate to hear this part of having big muscles equals lifting some kind of heavy weights
all the gurus etc can't change that two men with the greatest backs are testament to this Coleman and yates. Today's pros lazy as fuck
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Zack Kahn is a new pro that trains heavy.
I think Wolf will place very high. He's 297lbs 8 weeks out.
Who knows, Wolf may have hurt his lower back squatting, or rowing in his previous back session. So for this workout (in the video) he decided to train lighter on back this particular workout. We dont know. He is dieting after all.
I think he will regroup.
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I have videos of jay doin 405 deads at the END of his workout and jay is a column worked he does a lot of excercises I've seen him do like 12 diff excersises for back in a workout decent weights
that workout wolf just did isn't the workout of a man with a weak back for a pro
like I said he had better get his azz under some deadlifts and heavy rows
I HATE seeing these new pros workout big as he'll but sissy talking about peak contraction all that bullshit that's why Coleman = greatest of all time lift fucking heavy. Dorian lifted heavy culter lifts relatively heavy ... As much as people hate to hear this part of having big muscles equals lifting some kind of heavy weights
all the gurus etc can't change that two men with the greatest backs are testament to this Coleman and yates. Today's pros lazy as fuck
I was actually wondering about that and about to post a thread to ask a question. As a natty, I have no idea what the evolution in drugs have been since the Arnold days. Most of those guys didn't train heavy though, it was a lot of volume. And it's only when Mentzer (not matter how fucked up his brain was) and then Platz came along that you saw a real difference in muscular density (guys like Zane could get ripped but not with Mentzer's density or Platz's legs). Back then, it seems judges didn't care much for that and then came Dorian who just nailed the mass/density/conditioning thing. And Coleman of course. Seems like today, all pro's have to do is get the right gear combo and they'll show up with at least the illusion of density but then don't even train that heavy it seems or not often. Maybe it's also that just what they're using allows them to lift heavier on an average workout than even what powerlifter of the '70s could do with what they had at their disposal back then. Still, the little extra in terms of muscle size and density (Branch for example) can only come from heavy training. If anyone knows, post please.
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Zack Kahn is a new pro that trains heavy.
I think Wolf will place very high. He's 297lbs 8 weeks out.
Who knows, Wolf may have hurt his lower back squatting, or rowing in his previous back session. So for this workout (in the video) he decided to train lighter on back this particular workout. We dont know. He is dieting after all.
I think he will regroup.
Wolf had a major back injury in 2008 he never talked about in public. That was the reason why his back got tremendously worse after the 2007 Olympia, and that's why I highly doubt he'll ever be competitve again.
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Here's a video of jay doin 5 plates for 7-8 reps on deads... http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2hged_deadlifts_sport
After those he does t-bar rows in the corner with 9 plates, heavy db rows, heavy barbell rows... Jay is a hard ass worker in the gym, I don't care what anyone says.
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Wolf had a major back injury in 2008 he never talked about in public. That was the reason why his back got tremendously worse after the 2007 Olympia, and that's why I highly doubt he'll ever be competitve again.
he just overdieted at the NY pro show. If he came in 15lbs heavier... Where he normally weighs... He probably wouldve won
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I was actually wondering about that and about to post a thread to ask a question. As a natty, I have no idea what the evolution in drugs have been since the Arnold days. Most of those guys didn't train heavy though, it was a lot of volume. And it's only when Mentzer (not matter how fucked up his brain was) and then Platz came along that you saw a real difference in muscular density (guys like Zane could get ripped but not with Mentzer's density or Platz's legs). Back then, it seems judges didn't care much for that and then came Dorian who just nailed the mass/density/conditioning thing. And Coleman of course. Seems like today, all pro's have to do is get the right gear combo and they'll show up with at least the illusion of density but then don't even train that heavy it seems or not often. Maybe it's also that just what they're using allows them to lift heavier on an average workout than even what powerlifter of the '70s could do with what they had at their disposal back then. Still, the little extra in terms of muscle size and density (Branch for example) can only come from heavy training. If anyone knows, post please.
Well my take is first all the pros have superior genetics. Most of them would be above the rest without drugs. Now throw the drugs in with the genetics and thats what most pros are poor exercise form, drugs and genetics. The Mentzer's, Dorian, Platz and Ronnie used heavy weights and intensity hence their domination above the rest although Platz was mostly legs. Intensity, progression, heavy weights and genetics = results not even going down the drug path.
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he just overdieted and need bananas at the NY pro show. If he came in 15lbs heavier... Where he normally weighs... He probably wouldve won
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he just overdieted at the NY pro show. If he came in 15lbs heavier... Where he normally weighs... He probably wouldve won
Are you kidding, geek? Wolfs back is completely gone (colemanesque), and that has nothing to do with overdieting or not. He had a disc prolapse in 2008 and wasn't able to train properly since then, and that's the reason why he'll never be back.
In 2007 he crushed every line-up from the rear (including Cutler), that was him at the NY Pro this year:
(http://contests.flexonline.com/images/contests/large/27307.jpg)
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some of you jokers slay me......come on......wolf is huge and does hit a lat spread at the end of the video....huge dude for sure......his form is pretty outstanding here......and he is training smart......no ego training......some of you dudes need to be reminded that this is not powerlifting.....it is bodybuilding.....feel what you are doing......most of you guys are into ego training......that ain't bodybuilding.....just my opinion.
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Well my take is first all the pros have superior genetics. Most of them would be above the rest without drugs. Now throw the drugs in with the genetics and thats what most pros are poor exercise form, drugs and genetics. The Mentzer's, Dorian, Platz and Ronnie used heavy weights and intensity hence their domination above the rest although Platz was mostly legs. Intensity, progression, heavy weights and genetics = results not even going down the drug path.
Probably but what I'm wondering is if the evolution in drugs has changed the way pros train in general. Are there drugs that give a certain quality to the muscle which allows pros to bypass or do less heavy training (in comparison to their muscle mass of course)? Can you achieve the kind of density that guys like Platz or Mentzer had back then just by using the right gear combo today. It seems also a lot of pros don't periodize at all which is impossible if you want to make gains as a natty.
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Probably but what I'm wondering is if the evolution in drugs has changed the way pros train in general. Are there drugs that give a certain quality to the muscle which allows pros to bypass or do less heavy training (in comparison to their muscle mass of course)? Can you achieve the kind of density that guys like Platz or Mentzer had back then just by using the right gear combo today. It seems also a lot of pros don't periodize at all which is impossible if you want to make gains as a natty.
Yes to the drug question. But genetics are always determining up front.
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some of you jokers slay me......come on......wolf is huge and does hit a lat spread at the end of the video....huge dude for sure......his form is pretty outstanding here......and he is training smart......no ego training......some of you dudes need to be reminded that this is not powerlifting.....it is bodybuilding.....feel what you are doing......most of you guys are into ego training......that ain't bodybuilding.....just my opinion.
no one is saying he should deadlift 800lb but these new pros have no balls part of being a man means been strong these guys if they could lift a 10lb dumbell and get huge thy would they don't challenge themself lazy that's why Coleman won't be surpassed best genetics and he stilll didn't take those genetics for grante he lifted heavy and hard that's why no one was close there is no getting around hard work... Ngew of these pros have density see branch has that dense muscle from heavy lifting... Denis has the back he deserves
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Are you kidding, geek? Wolfs back is completely gone (colemanesque), and that has nothing to do with overdieting or not. He had a disc prolapse in 2008 and wasn't able to train properly since then, and that's the reason why he'll never be back.
In 2007 he crushed every line-up from the rear (including Cutler), that was him at the NY Pro this year:
(http://contests.flexonline.com/images/contests/large/27307.jpg)
I didnt know he had a serious injury. I Think I heard that he had a hernia operation. How did his back look at the 2009 Olympia? I know he was off there, but how was his back mass?
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Pretty lame if he is not getting ready to step on stage even then as dorian said you should still train with what built you the mass whilst dieting , not going for max lifts but still using the bread and butter stuff like heavy rows , deads etc
You build mass with progressive overload with good to semi decent form on the bread and butter stuff , its how its always been done and nothing will change that..drugs and genetics aside look at jay,ronnie,dorian and even dex, 4 mr olympias all trained with heavy basics and these guys have the best genes and best response to hormones and also the best in terms of mass.
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Dorian has written many times that he regrets training so heavy pre-contest
he admits he could have avoided injury
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His back reflects the workout he just did
these current pros are so sissy and lazy huge massive man messing about on maching working for the "peak contractions" he better get his ass under some heavy deadlifts rows and dumbell rows... Like Coleman Dorian and culter has done notice culter back didn't come up till he copied Coleman doing those t bar rows in the corner also heavy dumbell rows and barbell rows
weak workout = lacking back (for a pro)
Yup!
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no one is saying he should deadlift 800lb but these new pros have no balls part of being a man means been strong these guys if they could lift a 10lb dumbell and get huge thy would they don't challenge themself lazy that's why Coleman won't be surpassed best genetics and he stilll didn't take those genetics for grante he lifted heavy and hard that's why no one was close there is no getting around hard work... Ngew of these pros have density see branch has that dense muscle from heavy lifting... Denis has the back he deserves
You can't fake having a back if you haven't done your work in the gym it shows on back and legs, no doubt about it.
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he's done...
bench
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wolf can really be something I think, he's got plenty of time too.
just has a weird physique
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no one is saying he should deadlift 800lb but these new pros have no balls part of being a man means been strong these guys if they could lift a 10lb dumbell and get huge thy would they don't challenge themself lazy that's why Coleman won't be surpassed best genetics and he stilll didn't take those genetics for grante he lifted heavy and hard that's why no one was close there is no getting around hard work... Ngew of these pros have density see branch has that dense muscle from heavy lifting... Denis has the back he deserves
I hate to agree with your retarded moronic post but there is no getting around it. You = 100% correct.
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Wolf will guestpose in Japan August 1st,2010
musclecenter do you know how much he will get paid to fly all over to japan from las vegas in the midle of olympia prep??
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musclecenter do you know how much he will get paid to fly all over to japan from las vegas in the midle of olympia prep??
not very sure.
I think that the promoter will pay him for flight ticket,hotel,...and maybe thounds US$D for guestposing.
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Dennis has the back he's worked for