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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Fury on August 03, 2010, 07:39:37 AM
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This went way under the radar more than three weeks ago, but Rudy Giuliani made what, as best as I can tell, were his first public comments about the planned mosque near ground zero on the Jeff Katz show on radio (someone will I'm sure correct me if I'm wrong).
He takes a very hard line, including saying that "decent Muslims" will not be offended by the opposition because they want peace as much as others do.
I had been struck by how nonvisible Giuliani, who is generally known as the face of ground zero, had been on this issue. (A nexis search under his name, Ground Zero and mosque revealed no TV transcripts for the past month).
Here are as much of the quotes as I was able to cull from the temperamental audio (the relevant portion starts at about minute 8:30):
"It sends a particularly bad message, particularly (because) of the background of the imam who is supporting this. This is an Imam who has supported radical causes, who has not been forthright in condemning Islamic (terrorism) and the worst instincts that that brings about.
"So it not only is exactly the wrong place, right at ground zero, but it's a mosque supported by an imam who has a record of support for causes that were sympathetic with terrorism. Come on! We're gonna allow that at ground zero?
"This is a desecration," he added. "Nobody would allow something like that at Pearl Harbor. Let's have some respect for who died there and why they died there. Let's not put this off on some kind of politically correct theory.
"I mean, they died there because of Islamic extremist terrorism. They are our enemy, we can say that, the world will not end when we say that. And the reality is, it will not and should not insult any decent Muslim because decent Muslims should be as opposed to Islamic extremism as you and I are."
http://www.politico.com/blogs/maggiehaberman/0810/Rudy_Mosque_is_a_desecration_.html?showall
Very well said by Rudy. 8)
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BF - not one person can answer me this.
With all the vacant buildings all over the city, including Manhattan, why this spot over looking ground zero?
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BF - not one person can answer me this.
With all the vacant buildings all over the city, including Manhattan, why this spot over looking ground zero?
Simple. Mosques are built as a sign of Islamic supremacism over an area so what better place to put one than at the area where Muslims killed 3,000 Americans?
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Simple. Mosques are built as a sign of Islamic supremacism over an area so what better place to put one than at the area where Muslims killed 3,000 Americans?
No kidding, but this question has been avoid by all the supporters of this obscenity.
BTW - I still plan on going down there and spilling pigs blood on the site.
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This is absolute BS. I hope it burns down.
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BTW - I still plan on going down there and spilling pigs blood on the site.
Ill go with you.
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ACLJ Poised to File Court Challenge to Proposed Ground Zero Mosque After NYC Declines to Landmark Historic Building
WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--The American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ), which is representing a New York City firefighter who survived the 9-11 terrorist attacks, said today's vote by the New York City Landmarks Preservation Commission is deeply offensive to many of the victims and families of the 9-11 tragedy. By a vote of 9-to-0, the Commission, appointed by New York Mayor Bloomberg, failed to landmark a historic site near Ground Zero – a site where the landing gear of one of the hijacked planes from 9-11 crashed through the roof of the building. The vote bolsters plans to build a $100 million, 13-story Islamic mosque on what many consider to be sacred ground.
“The building links two distinct periods in American history”
"The actions taken by the City of New York represent a blatant disregard for the city's own procedures, while ignoring the fact that this is a historic and hallowed site that should not be destroyed to build an Islamic mosque," said Jay Sekulow, Chief Counsel of the ACLJ. "It has been clear from the beginning that the city has engaged in a rush to push this project through – ignoring proper procedure and ignoring a growing number of New Yorkers and Americans who don't believe this site is the place to build a mosque. We're poised to file legal action on behalf of our client to challenge this flawed decision and put a stop to this project."
The ACLJ has presented New York officials with oral and written testimony urging city officials to landmark the site. "The building links two distinct periods in American history," the ACLJ argued. "It reflects the growth and rise of American free enterprise and stands as a symbol of America’s strength and survival in the face of brutal, sadistic terrorism."
You can read the ACLJ's letter submitted to the city here: http://www.aclj.org/media/pdf/Executed-LPC-Submission_20100720.pdf
The ACLJ is planning to file an Article 78 petition in state court to challenge the city's actions. The ACLJ will allege that there's been an abuse of discretion in the Commission's decision and the filing is expected to occur tomorrow.
The ACLJ represents Tim Brown, a decorated firefighter and first responder, who survived the Twin Towers’ collapse and lost nearly 100 friends. The ACLJ also represents thousands of Americans who have signed on to the Committee to Stop the Ground Zero Mosque – Americans who oppose building an Islamic mosque on this site which should be used to honor and preserve the memory of 9-11 and its victims.
Led by Chief Counsel Jay Sekulow, the American Center for Law and Justice focuses on constitutional law and is based in Washington, D.C. The ACLJ is online at www.aclj.org.
ACLJ Poised to File Court Challenge to Proposed Ground Zero Mosque After NYC Declines to Landmark Historic Building
WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--The American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ), which is representing a New York City firefighter who survived the 9-11 terrorist attacks, said today's vote by the New York City Landmarks Preservation Commission is deeply offensive to many of the victims and families of the 9-11 tragedy. By a vote of 9-to-0, the Commission, appointed by New York Mayor Bloomberg, failed to landmark a historic site near Ground Zero – a site where the landing gear of one of the hijacked planes from 9-11 crashed through the roof of the building. The vote bolsters plans to build a $100 million, 13-story Islamic mosque on what many consider to be sacred ground.
“The building links two distinct periods in American history”
"The actions taken by the City of New York represent a blatant disregard for the city's own procedures, while ignoring the fact that this is a historic and hallowed site that should not be destroyed to build an Islamic mosque," said Jay Sekulow, Chief Counsel of the ACLJ. "It has been clear from the beginning that the city has engaged in a rush to push this project through – ignoring proper procedure and ignoring a growing number of New Yorkers and Americans who don't believe this site is the place to build a mosque. We're poised to file legal action on behalf of our client to challenge this flawed decision and put a stop to this project."
The ACLJ has presented New York officials with oral and written testimony urging city officials to landmark the site. "The building links two distinct periods in American history," the ACLJ argued. "It reflects the growth and rise of American free enterprise and stands as a symbol of America’s strength and survival in the face of brutal, sadistic terrorism."
You can read the ACLJ's letter submitted to the city here: http://www.aclj.org/media/pdf/Executed-LPC-Submission_20100720.pdf
The ACLJ is planning to file an Article 78 petition in state court to challenge the city's actions. The ACLJ will allege that there's been an abuse of discretion in the Commission's decision and the filing is expected to occur tomorrow.
The ACLJ represents Tim Brown, a decorated firefighter and first responder, who survived the Twin Towers’ collapse and lost nearly 100 friends. The ACLJ also represents thousands of Americans who have signed on to the Committee to Stop the Ground Zero Mosque – Americans who oppose building an Islamic mosque on this site which should be used to honor and preserve the memory of 9-11 and its victims.
Led by Chief Counsel Jay Sekulow, the American Center for Law and Justice focuses on constitutional law and is based in Washington, D.C. The ACLJ is online at www.aclj.org.
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20100803006621&newsLang=en
At least someone has the balls to step up on this. Like I said in another thread, the church that sat under the WTC has still not been rebuilt 9 years after the attacks (they hold service in a tent) yet there is a frenzy among Bloomberg and the other Islamic-pandering dickheads to push a mosque through in the same area. What a sick joke.
It's stupid without even mentioning the fact that the man leading this mosque building is a terrorist supporting fanatic who has called for Sharia Law in America and has spoken out against interfaith dialogue. But we should reward him! ::)