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Title: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 03, 2010, 08:38:43 AM
Poll: Waning support for Obama on wars
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Army soldiers help their wounded comrades in the Arghandab Valley of Afghanistan on July 29.

 
  USA TODAY/GALLUP POLL
 
How are things going for the United States in Afghanistan?


USA TODAY/Gallup Poll of 1,208 adults Tuesday - Sunday. Margin of error +/- 3 percentage points.
 
By Richard Wolf, USA TODAY

WASHINGTON — Public support for President Obama's Afghanistan war policy has plummeted amid a rising U.S. death toll and the unauthorized release of classified military documents, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll shows.

Support for Obama's management of the war fell to 36%, down from 48% in a February poll. Now, a record 43% also say it was a mistake to go to war there after the terrorist attacks in 2001.

The decline in support contributed to the lowest approval ratings of Obama's presidency. Amid a lengthy recession, more Americans support his handling of the economy (39%) than the war.

Even Obama's handling of the war in Iraq received record-low approval, despite a drawdown of 90,000 troops and the planned, on-schedule end of U.S. combat operations there this month.

Only 41% of those surveyed Tuesday through Sunday approved of the way Obama is handling his job, his lowest rating in the USA TODAY/Gallup Poll since he took office in January 2009. In Gallup's separate daily tracking poll, his approval was at 45% Monday.

The waning support for the Afghanistan war coincides with the deaths of a record 66 U.S. servicemembers in July, up from 60 in June. As the last of 30,000 reinforcements ordered by Obama enter the country, the international military force is encountering heavy Taliban resistance in the southern provinces of Kandahar and Helmand.

"It's hard to find any positive news that would boost public opinion," says Richard Eichenberg of Tufts University, who studies presidential polling and foreign policy.

The drop in support also follows the online posting of more than 76,000 documents by WikiLeaks. Two-thirds of those polled said it was wrong for the website to publish the documents.

Obama said Monday that he'll stick to his war plan: training Afghans to provide their own security, then beginning to withdraw troops in July 2011. The poll showed most Americans agree: 57% want a timetable for removing troops, and two-thirds of those say withdrawal should be done gradually.

"We will continue to face huge challenges in Afghanistan," Obama told the Disabled American Veterans in Atlanta. "It's important that the American people know that we are making progress and we are focused on goals that are clear and achievable."

In a CBS interview that aired earlier Monday, Obama said, "If I didn't think that it was important for our national security to finish the job in Afghanistan, then I would pull them out today, because I have to sign letters to these families — families who have lost loved ones."

Obama's address in Georgia was focused on this month's end of U.S. combat operations in Iraq — a commitment Obama made early last year. A force of 50,000 U.S. servicemembers will stay to train Iraqi security forces, conduct counterterrorism missions and protect civilian operations.

"Make no mistake: Our commitment in Iraq is changing, from a military effort led by our troops to a civilian effort led by our diplomats," Obama said.
 

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Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: 240 is Back on August 03, 2010, 08:41:14 AM
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Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 03, 2010, 08:42:14 AM
333386 obsesses over 240 on 3.... 2.... 1.....

Ha ha.  come on 240 - you know we have co-dependence issues on this stuff.   ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: tonymctones on August 03, 2010, 08:49:20 AM
333386 obsesses over 240 on 3.... 2.... 1.....
Palin, palin, bush, palin, bush, mccain, palin
Fixed for you 240  ;)
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: 240 is Back on August 03, 2010, 08:52:49 AM
Ha ha.  come on 240 - you know we have co-dependence issues on this stuff.   ;D  ;D  ;D

haha in that case, let's spin it...


Despite the horrible economic conditions and two long-term wars Obama has inherited, he's managed to turn things around quite admirably.  We WON in iraq thanks to the leadership of the military men whose gifts he utilized (if you argue this, you hate the military), and we're now ramping up things in Afghanistan to finally get Bin laden, something Bush admitted he didn't care about (if you argue this, youre with the terrorists and not America!)

Now, there will be times when 3 in 5 Americans might be swayed by information from the NUMBER ONE NAME IN NEWS, which has awesome ratings and therefore has a lot of viewers for their anti-american rhetoric.  Still, Obama is the bigger man - giving them the front and center seat in the White house press room.

Ya gotta admire that... the #1 name in news works tirelessly to destroy his goals for America - and he still gives them good seats.  In other countries, without our freedoms, those who oppose the president would be hanging from the gallows.  Obama treats them well because he knows they are children, and they do not understand his vision for America.
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 03, 2010, 08:54:47 AM
haha in that case, let's spin it...


Despite the horrible economic conditions and two long-term wars Obama has inherited, he's managed to turn things around quite admirably.  We WON in iraq thanks to the leadership of the military men whose gifts he utilized (if you argue this, you hate the military), and we're now ramping up things in Afghanistan to finally get Bin laden, something Bush admitted he didn't care about (if you argue this, youre with the terrorists and not America!)

Now, there will be times when 3 in 5 Americans might be swayed by information from the NUMBER ONE NAME IN NEWS, which has awesome ratings and therefore has a lot of viewers for their anti-american rhetoric.  Still, Obama is the bigger man - giving them the front and center seat in the White house press room.

Ya gotta admire that... the #1 name in news works tirelessly to destroy his goals for America - and he still gives them good seats.  In other countries, without our freedoms, those who oppose the president would be hanging from the gallows.  Obama treats them well because he knows they are children, and they do not understand his vision for America.


gibbs has nothing on you. 
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: 240 is Back on August 03, 2010, 08:58:24 AM

gibbs has nothing on you. 

haha yeah, that's just spur of the moment stuff off the top of my head... give me an hour and I'd have some much better material. 

Political spin is so fascinating to me.  Both sides do it.  It's fun to watch.
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 03, 2010, 09:25:54 AM
haha yeah, that's just spur of the moment stuff off the top of my head... give me an hour and I'd have some much better material. 

Political spin is so fascinating to me.  Both sides do it.  It's fun to watch.

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Dem pollster says voters not buying Bush as boogeyman strategy (Dawning Realization)
Hotair ^ | 08/03/2010 | Ed Morrissey


Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 10:36:14 AM by SeekAndFind

If Democrats want to convince anyone not already firmly in their own camp to support their candidates, they need a better argument than BushBushBushBushBush. National Journal reports the results of a poll commissioned by a Democrat-leaning think tank that shows voters don’t consider today’s GOP as watercarriers for Barack Obama’s predecessor. Almost two-thirds of respondents see Republican control of Congress as, well, Hope and Change:

Dems have tried repeatedly to tie the GOP to Bush’s economic policies, which remain highly unpopular. But so far, that hasn’t worked, according to officials at the Dem-leaning Third Way think tank.

“Just eighteen months after President Bush left office with the nation’s economy in historic freefall, two-thirds of Americans now see congressional Republicans and their economic ideas as new and completely separate from those of the former president,” the group wrote in a strategy memo sent to Dem leaders last month.

A majority, 53%, of Americans still blame Pres. Bush for the country’s economic woes, while 26% pin the blame on Pres. Obama. Only 14% give Bush excellent or good ratings on handling the federal budget, and 28% say he helped the middle class, according to a survey from Benenson Strategy Group.

But just 25% of Americans say that the GOP’s return to power in Congress will mean a return to those unpopular Bush policies. Fully 65% believe a GOP Congress would promote “a new economic agenda that is different from George W. Bush’s policies.”

A thin fraction of independent voters (22%) and Dems (32%) believe the GOP is set to return to Bush’s agenda. That’s great news for GOPers, who seem headed for an electoral romp this year, and bad news for Dems, who see tying the GOP to Bush’s legacy as a surefire way of beating back the GOP onslaught.

Of course, Barack Obama has not quite caught up to the news:

Obama said that after losing control of Congress in 2006 and the White House in 2008, Republicans did not engage in new thinking but stuck to the same policies that led the United States into the worst recession since the Great Depression.

“It’s not like they engaged in some heavy reflection. They have not come up with a single, solitary new idea to address the challenges of the American people. They don’t have a single idea that is different from George Bush’s,” he said.

Republicans, he said, are betting that Americans had forgotten recent history.

Which recent history? The recent history of Obama’s promise to keep unemployment below 8% if Congress gave him $787 billion to spend? That recent history? Or the recent history showing that civilian participation in the workforce has hit a historic low under his leadership? How about the $2.2 trillion math error made by the Obama White House in calculating future deficits? The failure of the stimulus plan to sustain real growth instead of just creating gimmicky spikes in markets?

Obama wants voters to forget recent history, not remember it. Unfortunately, the Bush Boogeyman Boogie simply isn’t as effective as it was in 2008, before Obama won his election and had to start governing for himself. Not only has that failed to keep criticism from falling on his shoulders, it hasn’t kept almost two-thirds of voters from noticing that the GOP has become more free-market oriented since the retirement of the man who claimed to have violated those principles in order to save the free market.

Voters have seen four years of the Democratic agenda from Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, and two years of incompetence from Barack Obama. The real boogeymen in this cycle are all Democrats, and chanting BushBushBushBushBush just demonstrates how far out of touch Democratic leadership has become from the electorate.


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I like how the far left morons like Blacken and Danny ignore the fact that Pelosi has been in charge since 2006. 
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: 240 is Back on August 03, 2010, 09:29:36 AM
I like how the far left morons like Blacken and Danny ignore the fact that Pelosi has been in charge since 2006. 

Please list all the bills (besides that S-CHIP healthcare for kids) that Pelosi and the Dems pushed thru - that the repub congress opposed.  And list the ones Bush vetoed.

;)
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 03, 2010, 09:32:33 AM
Please list all the bills (besides that S-CHIP healthcare for kids) that Pelosi and the Dems pushed thru - that the repub congress opposed.  And list the ones Bush vetoed.

;)

Moron.  Bush was a fiscal train wreck and socialists himself.  No one disputes that.    Nice straw man argument.   ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: 240 is Back on August 03, 2010, 09:34:27 AM
Moron.  Bush was a fiscal train wreck and socialists himself.  No one disputes that.    Nice straw man argument.   ::)  ::)

What about the repub congress?

They went along for the spending ride too, right?

It's hard to blame pelosi, when repub congress and repub white house rubber stamped the spending too.
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 03, 2010, 09:37:42 AM
What about the repub congress?

They went along for the spending ride too, right?

It's hard to blame pelosi, when repub congress and repub white house rubber stamped the spending too.

That's why they lost in 2006 fool.   

Face it, the country is not a hard left cabal like your boys over at DU think.  They thought Pelosi would drain the swamp and end the wars, etc.  Stupidly of course since pelosi herself is a pofs C$%^ who deserves the guillotine. 


The taxpayers want less govt, not more, and the polls show it. 
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: 240 is Back on August 03, 2010, 09:39:49 AM
pelosi believes in a more socialist country.  She's made that clear.

If americans didn't want that, why did they give her the congressional majority?
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 03, 2010, 09:42:39 AM
pelosi believes in a more socialist country.  She's made that clear.

If americans didn't want that, why did they give her the congressional majority?

For the same reason we have obama as president, voters are stupid.  most dems run as conservatives in thelast month before an election and thats when people are paying attention. 

Obama is a perfect example of the moron voter.   
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Hereford on August 03, 2010, 09:46:56 AM
There should be some sort of a test of general intelligence and understanding a person has to take and pass before being allowed to vote.

Don't see the Dems going for that tho....
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: dario73 on August 03, 2010, 10:20:24 AM
There should be some sort of a test of general intelligence and understanding a person has to take and pass before being allowed to vote.

Don't see the Dems going for that tho....

LOL. All the Obama fan boys on this board would not be able to vote.
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: BM OUT on August 03, 2010, 10:29:26 AM
pelosi believes in a more socialist country.  She's made that clear.

If americans didn't want that, why did they give her the congressional majority?

If the voters didnt want the war or Bush why did they put him into office the second time?
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 03, 2010, 10:31:06 AM
If the voters didnt want the war or Bush why did they put him into office the second time?

Because as bad as Bush was, kerry was even worse.   
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: MCWAY on August 03, 2010, 10:57:01 AM
I was just about to say that Gallup had Obama at 44%. However, RCP just updated their average, to include this most recent Gallup poll. He's been upside down in RCP for nearly two weeks. But, the margin is WIDENING; it's nearly 5 points, now (44.9 - Approve; 49.7 - Disapprove).

If he drops to the 30s by/before October, the Democrats could be heading to the woodshed, to get their blue behinds whipped RED.
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 03, 2010, 11:01:54 AM
Again - when you look at the priorities of this  disgusting admnistration, only the super far left, welfare bums, and other dregs can support this craziness. 

Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 03, 2010, 01:00:54 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Dos Equis on August 03, 2010, 01:11:29 PM
There should be some sort of a test of general intelligence and understanding a person has to take and pass before being allowed to vote.

Don't see the Dems going for that tho....

Sounds like early twentieth century thinking. 
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Dos Equis on August 03, 2010, 01:15:14 PM
I was just about to say that Gallup had Obama at 44%. However, RCP just updated their average, to include this most recent Gallup poll. He's been upside down in RCP for nearly two weeks. But, the margin is WIDENING; it's nearly 5 points, now (44.9 - Approve; 49.7 - Disapprove).

If he drops to the 30s by/before October, the Democrats could be heading to the woodshed, to get their blue behinds whipped RED.

I'll be surprised if he drops below 40.  There is that core group of Democrats who will follow him over a cliff.  I think the key stats involve independents. 
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Hereford on August 03, 2010, 02:04:09 PM
Sounds like early twentieth century thinking. 

What, you disagree?
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Dos Equis on August 03, 2010, 02:05:20 PM
What, you disagree?

Yes.
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Option D on August 03, 2010, 02:22:37 PM
http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx

45%

WTF are you talking about mr hannity
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 03, 2010, 02:29:14 PM
http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx

45%

WTF are you talking about mr hannity

Did you read the story?  and BTW - 45% is still awful. 

45% is still waayyyyy too high for what Obama is doing.  He is a domestic enemy of the taxpayer, a traitor, a con artist, a liar, a piece of trash, a scumbag, an incompetent, and otherwise the worst person to ever sit at 1600 PA Ave.     
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: 225for70 on August 03, 2010, 02:30:14 PM
President Obama's job approval rating averaged 88% among blacks and 38% among whites in July.

I'm surprised that Obama's rating is so high among whites.  
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Option D on August 03, 2010, 02:32:52 PM
Did you read the story?  and BTW - 45% is still awful. 

45% is still waayyyyy too high for what Obama is doing.  He is a domestic enemy of the taxpayer, a traitor, a con artist, a liar, a piece of trash, a scumbag, an incompetent, and otherwise the worst person to ever sit at 1600 PA Ave.     

And Black

hmmmm...
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: 240 is Back on August 03, 2010, 02:37:46 PM
 He is a domestic enemy of the taxpayer, a traitor, a con artist, a liar, a piece of trash, a scumbag, an incompetent, and otherwise the worst person to ever sit at 1600 PA Ave.    


What if you're among the 47% of people who don't currently pay taxes?
Or the 12% that get food stamps?
Or the 12 million people he'll hand citizenship to?

Once obama gets the number to 50.1%, he wins everything from that point on.

I think you're thinking morally right/wrong... obama's only thinking politically and idealistically right/wrong.
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: 225for70 on August 03, 2010, 02:40:24 PM
And Black

hmmmm...

If Obama was white his Approval rating would be about 22.5%..I think that his skin color is keeping his approval rating artificially high (NO Racist, is about 1/ black).

Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 03, 2010, 02:40:45 PM
And Black

hmmmm...

Using the race card, nice.   ::)  ::)

BTW - check out my thread of who he picked to be the new Solicitor General.    
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Option D on August 03, 2010, 02:42:45 PM
Did you read the story?  and BTW - 45% is still awful.  

45% is still waayyyyy too high for what Obama is doing.  He is a domestic enemy of the taxpayer, a traitor, a con artist, a liar, a piece of trash, a scumbag, an incompetent, and otherwise the worst person to ever sit at 1600 PA Ave.    

Is is really awful...hmmm in 6th quarter average of recent previous presidents...lets see...
Obama 47.3%
Clinton 46.1%
REGAN 44.2% (and he is your god)


And GEORGE W BUSH...............74.9%..hahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha

Get the fuck out of here


Obama Approval in ContextGallup Editor in Chief Frank Newport puts Obama's current job approval ratings in historical context, revealing that the president is on par with several recent predecessors

http://www.gallup.com/video/141542/Obama-Approval-Context.aspx


An im out dis bitch
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: 225for70 on August 03, 2010, 02:45:28 PM
Is is really awful...hmmm in 6th quarter average of recent previous presidents...lets see...
Obama 47.3%
Clinton 46.1%
REGAN 44.2% (and he is your god)


And GEORGE W BUSH...............74.9%..hahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha

Get the fuck out of here


Obama Approval in ContextGallup Editor in Chief Frank Newport puts Obama's current job approval ratings in historical context, revealing that the president is on par with several recent predecessors

http://www.gallup.com/video/141542/Obama-Approval-Context.aspx


An im out dis bitch

Good post...these polls are worthless if those numbers are real.
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Option D on August 03, 2010, 02:46:50 PM
Good post...So are you saying that this polls are worthless.

Yes...thats exactly what i think
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 03, 2010, 02:51:04 PM
Yes...thats exactly what i think

Difference is, Clinton had a decent economy and GOP to run against for the house.   

Reagan actually turned around the economy. 

obama has been on a massive downward slide from Day 1 and is making things drastically worse by the day. 
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Option D on August 03, 2010, 03:22:10 PM
Difference is, Clinton had a decent economy and GOP to run against for the house.   

Reagan actually turned around the economy. 

obama has been on a massive downward slide from Day 1 and is making things drastically worse by the day. 


hmmm really...lets see

Obama -1.5
W        -4.6
clinton  -6
HW       -5.7
Regan   -2.1





Change in % points from 5th to 6th quarter

An im out dis bitch
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: Danny on August 03, 2010, 04:18:44 PM
Difference is, Clinton had a decent economy and GOP to run against for the house.   

Reagan actually turned around the economy. 

obama has been on a massive downward slide from Day 1 and is making things drastically worse by the day. 

Care to explain how exactly? I'm curious to hear what facts you're basing your assertions on.
Title: Re: Gallup - Obama approval craters to 41%.
Post by: MM2K on August 05, 2010, 03:34:04 AM
Obama's pathetic presidency is causing Bush to become Truman faster than Truman became Truman.