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Ok I'm sitting here watching Tyra Banks and half the crowd has Gay t-shirts on and the other half have gay t shirts on. One homo got up and said that his father beat him or tried to beat the gayness out of him. I got me thinking about this whole homosexual issue once again. First off government needs to get the fuck out of marriage.......it's not something they should be having anything to do. For most marriage is a personal, secular, religious matter not a governmental one.
So I haven't research the whole nurture vs. nature issue on homosexuality. But I used to think it was a combination of both genetic and psychological factors i.e. how you were raised etc. I find the psychological factor very evident in lesbians. Many of them are very staunch man haters which to me tells me that in their life some man has done something to them. Anyways, why don't someone settle the homosexual issue with some sort of study where they take gay parents and straight parents. Hundreds of them. They raise kids. If the kids turn out to be gay then it's obviously a psychological issue. If they turn out to be straight than it's genetics and society can move forward in preventing and eliminating it. Or is it something more sinister..........maybe a way to curb the world population brought about like the emasculation of men. Would some of the board homosexuals please way in on this issue? We know schmoeness is a direct result of bodybuilding. But what about gayness? What causes gayness? Nurture or nature?
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the current thought is that homosexual men are caused by mothers with an excess of "man-loving gene".. whatever that might be.
it was discovered that homosexual men tend to come from families with large amounts of children. that is to say, they come from mothers who get pregnant alot. this might indicate that the mothers of homosexual men have something about them that makes them desire men, and sex with men, more than the average woman. a so called "man loving gene". and this can be passed down to one of the male offsrping.
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the current thought is that homosexual men are caused by mothers with an excess of "man-loving gene".. whatever that might be.
it was discovered that homosexual men tend to come from families with large amounts of children. that is to say, they come from mothers who get pregnant alot. this might indicate that the mothers of homosexual men have something about them that makes them desire men, and sex with men, more than the average woman. a so called "man loving gene". and this can be passed down to one of the male offsrping.
LMAO!!! WTF? Is that shit real?
Anywho, I think it nature and a little nuture...The little nuture are the people out there that think it's cool to be gay.
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Ok I'm sitting here watching Tyra Banks and half the crowd has Gay t-shirts on and the other half have gay t shirts on. One homo got up and said that his father beat him or tried to beat the gayness out of him. I got me thinking about this whole homosexual issue once again. First off government needs to get the fuck out of marriage.......it's not something they should be having anything to do. For most marriage is a personal, secular, religious matter not a governmental one.
So I haven't research the whole nurture vs. nature issue on homosexuality. But I used to think it was a combination of both genetic and psychological factors i.e. how you were raised etc. I find the psychological factor very evident in lesbians. Many of them are very staunch man haters which to me tells me that in their life some man has done something to them. Anyways, why don't someone settle the homosexual issue with some sort of study where they take gay parents and straight parents. Hundreds of them. They raise kids. If the kids turn out to be gay then it's obviously a psychological issue. If they turn out to be straight than it's genetics and society can move forward in preventing and eliminating it. Or is it something more sinister..........maybe a way to curb the world population brought about like the emasculation of men. Would some of the board homosexuals please way in on this issue? We know schmoeness is a direct result of bodybuilding. But what about gayness? What causes gayness? Nurture or nature?
This will pretty much answer every question you have....when did you first discover you were attracted to women?
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LMAO!!! WTF? Is that shit real?
yup
In 2004, Italian researchers conducted a study of about 4,600 people who were the relatives of 98 homosexual and 100 heterosexual men. Female relatives of the homosexual men tended to have more offspring than those of the heterosexual men. Female relatives of the homosexual men on their mother's side tended to have more offspring than those on the father's side. The researchers concluded that there was genetic material being passed down on the X chromosome which both promotes fertility in the mother and homosexuality in her male offspring. The connections discovered, would explain about 20% of the cases studied, indicating that this is a highly significant but not the sole genetic factor determining sexual orientation
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to the op, are there things? sorry this is getbig and i couldnt resist (no homo)
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they say fetishes are developed at a very young age when the mind is developing and absorbing everything around them
like when a baby is masturbating (yes they masturbate) they notice their mothers pantyhose and end up associating their arousal with pantyhose, creating a pantyhose fetish
maybe while a baby masturbated at one point, their same sex parent was changing in the room causing them to associate their sexual arousal with that type of appearance
just a theory :)
E
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the current thought is that homosexual men are caused by mothers with an excess of "man-loving gene".. whatever that might be.
it was discovered that homosexual men tend to come from families with large amounts of children. that is to say, they come from mothers who get pregnant alot. this might indicate that the mothers of homosexual men have something about them that makes them desire men, and sex with men, more than the average woman. a so called "man loving gene". and this can be passed down to one of the male offsrping.
If you look at a ahem, certain population, that has huge number of single mothers with male children, you see a significant number of the men are gay, or exhibit effeminate qualities. For instance, how Kanye West acts all emotional and throws temper tantrums, well he was raised by a woman, most of the time he was around women, so he takes on some of their attributes. Even some of these thugs, they "over react" to certain situations just like a female would.
There is no "silver bullet", no one singular answer, but there are multiple.
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I dont think its that complicated at all. Your born liking what you like. My theory it's no different than some people like hamburgers and some don't. Yes, the majority of people like them and there are some that don't. Same with racial preference, some like lighter skin, some like dark, and some don't care. It's whatever floats your boat plain and simple. There are a lot more closet homo's and inter racial folks out there but there are scared of being judged by society so they settle for something other than what they want. Just my opinion.
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I dont think its that complicated at all. Your born liking what you like. My theory it's no different than some people like hamburgers and some don't. Yes, the majority of people like them and there are some that don't. Same with racial preference, some like lighter skin, some like dark, and some don't care. It's whatever floats your boat plain and simple. There are a lot more closet homo's and inter racial folks out there but there are scared of being judged by society so they settle for something other than what they want. Just my opinion.
Aint that simple brah. Society and many other factors plays a huge role. For instance, how light skinned women are view as more attractive and dark skinned women are view as less attractive, and both could have the same features.
As I said before, and this was a siminar I went to on black men and their high incarceration rates and family.
I've seen it with my own eyes, where dude is catered to by his mother, and he can do no wrong (bad boys), once he lives the house, he looks for a female to do the same. If they come from a single parent home, the mother essentially acts like a girlfriend.
Many dudes now act like women, such as sucking their teeth, rolling their eyes, not looking you directly in the eyes, and being manipulative. And getting Into emotional temper tantrums, there is all a reason. Stuff doesn't just "happen". To view it as such is naive simplistic way of thinking.
For instance, in any field name the GOAT... And why do you think so? Well, you give reasons, you just don't say this person is the GOAT and leave it at that...
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Ok I'm sitting here watching Tyra Banks and half the crowd has Gay t-shirts on and the other half have gay t shirts on. One homo got up and said that his father beat him or tried to beat the gayness out of him. I got me thinking about this whole homosexual issue once again. First off government needs to get the fuck out of marriage.......it's not something they should be having anything to do. For most marriage is a personal, secular, religious matter not a governmental one.
Outed.
Do you think the cause of your homosexuality will ever be figured out?
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I suppose if someone is not religious they can make homosexuality and marriage whatever they want to make it.
Personally I am religious and I find the idea that homosexuals are born that way to be ridiculous. I'm not saying its as simple as a personal choice either. I'm sure something happens at some point in their life that moves them to that type of behavior. God made us all in his own likeness and image and with a certain nature and purpose. As he did with everything else on this earth. Scripture is clear on the issue of homosexuality so to say someone is born into the world like that just doesn't make sense.
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Outed.
Do you think the cause of your homosexuality will ever be figured out?
Tyra has nice cans, it is the "fantasy" value of watching them jiggle.
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I suppose if someone is not religious they can make homosexuality and marriage whatever they want to make it.
Personally I am religious and I find the idea that homosexuals are born that way to be ridiculous. I'm not saying its as simple as a personal choice either. I'm sure something happens at some point in their life that moves them to that type of behavior. God made us all in his own likeness and image and with a certain nature and purpose. As he did with everything else on this earth. Scripture is clear on the issue of homosexuality so to say someone is born into the world like that just doesn't make sense.
Actually, it makes perfect sense...YOUR theory and religious conviction should be the big question mark
As I asked in my last post....when did you first discover you were straight?
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I suppose if someone is not religious they can make homosexuality and marriage whatever they want to make it.
Personally I am religious and I find the idea that homosexuals are born that way to be ridiculous. I'm not saying its as simple as a personal choice either. I'm sure something happens at some point in their life that moves them to that type of behavior. God made us all in his own likeness and image and with a certain nature and purpose. As he did with everything else on this earth. Scripture is clear on the issue of homosexuality so to say someone is born into the world like that just doesn't make sense.
The scripture is clear in that it forbids homosexuality. It never addresses it's orgins. All it says is that man should not lay with man.
So whether or not it's genetic the bible forbids it.
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Actually, it makes perfect sense...YOUR theory and religious conviction should be the big question mark
As I asked in my last post....when did you first discover you were straight?
i think when i was 5 years old and i stumbled upon my fathers playboy magazines the first sight of Tits and a nappy dugout i produced a massive 7inch erection on me
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Actually, it makes perfect sense...YOUR theory and religious conviction should be the big question mark
As I asked in my last post....when did you first discover you were straight?
I was five and there was this blonde hair, blue eye girl named Brandy in my kindergarten class. This is my earliest memory of liking girls. I remember really wanting to be around her all the time but not knowing why...lol Obviously, growing up till then with a mother and father played a roll cause I wanted to mimic what they had...well minus the skin color. ;D
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I was five and there was this blonde hair, blue eye girl named Brandy in my kindergarten class. This is my earliest memory of liking girls. I remember really wanting to be around her all the time but not knowing why...lol Obviously, growing up till then with a mother and father played a roll cause I wanted to mimic what they had...well minus the skin color. ;D
I looked fwd to Kindergarten when I was young, because there were girls there. I had a thing about tickling...
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I was five and there was this blonde hair, blue eye girl named Brandy in my kindergarten class. This is my earliest memory of liking girls. I remember really wanting to be around her all the time but not knowing why...lol Obviously, growing up till then with a mother and father played a roll cause I wanted to mimic what they had...well minus the skin color. ;D
Exactly...you "didnt know why"....as it was your natural instinct. JUst as homosexuals dont know why and are attracted to who they are by the same instinct....
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tbombz and vince goodcum are needed in this thread.
Being raised by a mother without a brother, or with only sisters, or just the mother feminizes boys. Not having father figures AT ALL from early childhood to end of adolescence is a decisive factor. It either gets you paranoid/ prone to affective dependancy with women or plain homosexual. Most delinquants are repressed homosexuals who dont know they are. They need to prove they re men by being violent cause they feel like women deep inside.
I dont know if it has genetical roots. I believe it's only a matter of conditionnings between 6 to 10, which are the most important years. If the feminine influence keeps being reinforced for the whole adolescence it will only get worse.
Basically all cognitivo-behavorial troubles originate in absence of meaning, or wrong, biased meanings put into a child's brain by the surroundings adults suposed to take care of him during the first third of his life. Magical thinking, unrealistic conception of reality. Kids are emotionnal sponges. They absorb everything of what is said, not said and it is engraved in their brains as long as the nonsens doesnt enter in contact with reality. When the nonsensical beliefs are in contact with reality they start feeling depressed. At this point you need to give sens to what makes no sense or the depressive behavior is only going to worsen. You d be surprised at how immature most people are. They might be mature in some things, and completely immatures in others. Any individual is a sum of developments and underdevelopments. Some people are more developed in more areas than others.
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Exactly...you "didnt know why"....as it was your natural instinct. JUst as homosexuals dont know why and are attracted to who they are by the same instinct....
100% correct. I don't believe anyone would choose to put themselves through the ridicule and bashing the gays have been put through if it were as simple as just turning it off like a switch. I happen to be religious but I believe they were born like this. Why is it so hard to believe?
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Something went very wrong on earth a long time ago where, a once perfect place, had: murder, disease, poverty, disorder, jealousy, anxiety, suffering, and death introduced to it.
The bible says that when Adam and Eve sinned and a curse was the result.
I feel homosexuality (and all sexual sins: child molestation, rape, prostitution, ect..) are a part of a curse
Humans know something is wrong... So humans invented "Religion" .....but "religion" cant save anyone... Only the Creator can save us!!
Faith in Jesus is the only way to "reverse the curse"
Just my opinion
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Something went very wrong on earth a long time ago where a once perfect place had: murder, disease, poverty, disorder, jealousy, anxiety, suffering, and death introduced to it.
The bible says that when Adam and Eve sinned and a curse was the result.
I feel homosexuality (and all sexual sins: child molestation, rape, prostitution, ect..) are a part of a curse
Humans know something is wrong... So humans invented "Religion"
but "religion" cant save anyone... Only the Creator can save us!!
Faith in Jesus is the only way to "reverse the curse"
Just my opinion
With all due respect to homosexuals, I do believe being gay is a sort of genetic disorder because it differs from what nature intended. This is putting it in the most cruel manner. They do no harm to me so I have no problems. I do have a problem with this JNN kind of man being the new standard for a hetero man....funk dat...This Metrosexual...
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Aint that simple brah. Society and many other factors plays a huge role. For instance, how light skinned women are view as more attractive and dark skinned women are view as less attractive, and both could have the same features.
As I said before, and this was a siminar I went to on black men and their high incarceration rates and family.
I've seen it with my own eyes, where dude is catered to by his mother, and he can do no wrong (bad boys), once he lives the house, he looks for a female to do the same. If they come from a single parent home, the mother essentially acts like a girlfriend.
Many dudes now act like women, such as sucking their teeth, rolling their eyes, not looking you directly in the eyes, and being manipulative. And getting Into emotional temper tantrums, there is all a reason. Stuff doesn't just "happen". To view it as such is naive simplistic way of thinking.
For instance, in any field name the GOAT... And why do you think so? Well, you give reasons, you just don't say this person is the GOAT and leave it at that...
I hear ya Parker as well as everyone's elses thoeries. No one knows for sure. That was just my opinion. I like to keep it simple. I just know I like women and some guys like men. As for the women I like, if I find them hot, then they are hot no matter what color thier skin is.
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Just because you have certain feelings and desires doesn't mean you have to act on them. And as a representative of Team Marty31672, a proud and unapologetic Christian organization, let me remind you that God hates a fag.
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Just because you have certain feelings and desires doesn't mean you have to act on them. And as a representative of Team Marty31672, a proud and unapologetic Christian organization, let me remind you that God hates a fag.
God hates the sin not the sinner and let he that is without sin cast the first stone....
In addition, imagine you a hetero man were told you should never lay with a woman...Do you think your religion would stop you?
Reverend Wiggs
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just for your information in animals homosexuality is common in a lot of species. Ever heard of the gay penguins couple taking care of a rock instead of an egg ? You d become an homo too if you had to live on an island with only another dude for the rest of your life with no chance of meeting any woman ever.
Prison for example makes people turn gay. We are all potential homosexuals. Just depends of the environment which shapes us. The beliefs, the stories, the toys, society's moral code...
Sometimes having a gay father repressing his own homosexuality will turn his boy into a fag.
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One more thing on the being raised by women/single mother, no father theory. My dad and my uncle were raised by my grandfather alone so there wasn't this female role to mimic. My dad was straight and his brother turned out to be flaming gay, so It's hard for me to beleive that one. But like I said, who knows for sure. I'm sticking with my theory, you like what you like. On another note, some were talking about when the first time you knew you liked women. I was in elementary school and was staring at this black girls little pop booty and boing, I had a hard on. I knew from that point, I liked women with bag asses and it follows me today.
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What is it about gays that make their voices sound..well..gay?
I've know a few guys in high school who were normal,talked normal, walked normal,dressed normal.. then later on find out their now gay and they got this high pitched voice..I dont get it.
Anyways,,men are designed by nature to reproduce with women. hence the penis and the vagina. Obviously if your gay it some type of malfunction.
Trust me, I've done thousands of domestic disturbance calls. considering the small amount of gay couples, about every other call is between two male 'partners'.. Its not normal and it sure isn't healthy.
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Just because you have certain feelings and desires doesn't mean you have to act on them. And as a representative of Team Marty31672, a proud and unapologetic Christian organization, let me remind you that God hates a fag.
God hates the sin
God doesnt hate the person that commits the sin (over time the Creator works with people to help them clean up their lives the best they can. Jesus will allow people to make mistakes and learn from their mistakes)
(although God has pronounced judgements on people that continually sin)
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Actually, it makes perfect sense...YOUR theory and religious conviction should be the big question mark
As I asked in my last post....when did you first discover you were straight?
lol@ religious conviction should be the big question mark.
When did I discover I was straight? God made us that way so its part of our nature as men and women. Now someone can get turned around after they get for whatever reason and turn to homosexuality. But like I said in the first post, if you're an atheist or agnostic then you can pretty much make it whatever you want it to be. Thats on you.
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they say fetishes are developed at a very young age when the mind is developing and absorbing everything around them
like when a baby is masturbating (yes they masturbate) they notice their mothers pantyhose and end up associating their arousal with pantyhose, creating a pantyhose fetish
maybe while a baby masturbated at one point, their same sex parent was changing in the room causing them to associate their sexual arousal with that type of appearance
just a theory :)
E
i believe in this. There's never smoke without a fire. Everything has an origin, is linked to something else. It s all about mimicking, copying, reproducing. Like the ducks who will follow any kind of moving object entering their visual range 3 hours after they re born, recording it as being their mother. take a look at piaget's work (constructivism theory)
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lol@ religious conviction should be the big question mark.
When did I discover I was straight? God made us that way so its part of our nature as men and women. Now someone can get turned around after they get for whatever reason and turn to homosexuality. But like I said in the first post, if you're an atheist or agnostic then you can pretty much make it whatever you want it to be. Thats on you.
Let me rephrase it for you...when did you decide you liked females?
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I suppose if someone is not religious they can make homosexuality and marriage whatever they want to make it.
Personally I am religious and I find the idea that homosexuals are born that way to be ridiculous. I'm not saying its as simple as a personal choice either. I'm sure something happens at some point in their life that moves them to that type of behavior. God made us all in his own likeness and image and with a certain nature and purpose. As he did with everything else on this earth. Scripture is clear on the issue of homosexuality so to say someone is born into the world like that just doesn't make sense.
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God hates the sin not the sinner and let he that is without sin cast the first stone....
In addition, imagine you a hetero man were told you should never lay with a woman...Do you think your religion would stop you?
Reverend Wiggs
Despite popular beliefs, the vast majority of Catholic priests are celibate. A politician recently announced that at 53 years old he has remained celibate because sex is only allowed within the context of marriage.
Though it seems incomprehensible in this day and age, there are still people left and are really out there that have the discipline to practice self-control and adhere and really practice their beliefs.
And no where in the Bible, or in Christianity, does it implore one to hate the sin and not the sinner. That was said by Ghandi not Christ. It seems incongruous to profess to love someone and then condemn them to hell. Buddhism is a pacifistic belief system.
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
Like so many passages in the Bible: "Turn the other cheek.", "Judge not, lest ye be judged.", "Eye for an eye.", context is everything, my tranny loving friend.
First of all, that particular passage was never included in the original text and many believe it doesn't belong in the Book of John. But no matter. Like several instances in the Bible where many tried to "trip up" or "trap" Jesus and find inconsistencies in his teaching this was one of them. If Jesus allowed the woman to be stoned the Romans would seized them for violating their law. Adultery was punishable by exile and confiscation of property. A father was permitted to kill his daughter and her partner. And a husband was allowed to kill his wife's partner only under specific circumstances but only require to divorce his wife. Remember, adultery was defined as having sex with a married woman. This gave a married man a lot of leeway. He could, and many did, have sex with unmarried women.
Now, if Jesus allowed the woman to go free he would lose face with the people for not adhering to the law of Moses. The onus was now on the people, mostly Pharisees, who were put in the dilemma of admitting some sin or that their position meant more to them than Mosaic law.
So to reiterate: God hates a fag. And if you're a fag -- he hates you, too.
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What is it about gays that make their voices sound..well..gay?
I think that probably happens when you get rammed in the pooper a few times.
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Let me rephrase it for you...when did you decide you liked females?
I'm saying the exact moment I (or anyone) decided I was attracted to females doesn't matter. God created men and women with a nature and purpose to come together as a couple. Every human being is born with that same nature but somewhere along the road some get turned around and become attracted to the same sex.
For this reason shall a MAN leave his father and mother and cleave unto his WIFE and the TWO shall become ONE flesh.
Matthew 19:6
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50% of homosexual males were born that way...the remaining got sucked into it.
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I'm saying the exact moment I (or anyone) decided I was attracted to females doesn't matter. God created men and women with a nature and purpose to come together as a couple. Every human being is born with that same nature but somewhere along the road some get turned around and become attracted to the same sex.
For this reason shall a MAN leave his father and mother and cleave unto his WIFE and the TWO shall become ONE flesh.
Matthew 19:6
It doesn't matter...because it was never a decision you consciencely made....just as you had a natural attraction to females, the homosexual has a natural attraction to males
Your religion blinds you from common sense
The ultimate irony, is that for the same reasoning you believe homosexuals to "turn around" to their sexual attraction....you believe what you do as a LEARNED process, not a natural one...
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It doesn't matter...because it was never a decision you consciencely made....just as you had a natural attraction to females, the homosexual has a natural attraction to males
Your religion blinds you from common sense
The ultimate irony, is that for the same reasoning you believe homosexuals to "turn around" to their sexual attraction....you believe what you do as a LEARNED process, not a natural one...
Does that mean drug addicts have a "natural attraction to drugs" or murders have a "natural attraction" to murder? What about pedophiles Bob? Is is OK for them to have a "natural attraction" to kids?
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Being attracted or having sexual desires for the same sex is one thing. Homosexual behavior is something else. If a person engages in homosexuality that does not mean, strictly speaking, he is gay in the sense of being attracted to the same sex. If that were the case then for some just merely going to prison changes your genetically predisposed sexual orientation.
As a behavior becomes more accepted and even encourage you're going to get more of it. There use to be a time when oral sex was considered more intimate than intercourse. Now, it's what? Third base? That's part of the gay agenda. To make fag behavior more acceptable and more common and to equate it on the same level as heterosexuality. Maybe even make it trendy, fashionable and cool to suck a cock every now and then.
Understand, to say that you don't equate homosexuality on the same level as heterosexuality is a statement on behavior, not on the person. That is to say that a fag is considered evil or not given the same civil rights. Don't be fooled by this gay marriage movement. Gays have the same rights to marriage as everyone else. As Arnold once said, "I support gay marriage as long as it's between a man and a woman." No one has the right for the government or society to recognize same sex marriage. Of course everyone has the right to marry anybody and anything they want within the context of their belief system, religious or otherwise. A friend of mine was invited to Bob Paris' wedding way back when. What they don't have the right to is to require others to recognize, embrace and even honor their unions. There is currently an active movement to be allowed to marry animals. If I love my sister and want to marry her do I have the right for society to recognize and honor that union?
That's what I liked about Hugh Hefner during much of his life. For all practical purposes he lived as a polygamous. Essentially having several women that lived with him and that he had sex with. He just did his own thing and didn't require or care if it was officially recognized or endorsed. If a couple of queers want to place house -- have at it. Just don't require the rest of us to endorse and honor it. Now you are asking for special rights. A right that has never existed in all of humanity.
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I don't like to watch lesbian porn, if I don't see a penis I'm not interested.
Am I gay ???
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I don't like to watch lesbian porn, if I don't see a penis I'm not interested.
Am I gay ???
Could be.
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It doesn't matter...because it was never a decision you consciencely made....just as you had a natural attraction to females, the homosexual has a natural attraction to males
Your religion blinds you from common sense
The ultimate irony, is that for the same reasoning you believe homosexuals to "turn around" to their sexual attraction....you believe what you do as a LEARNED process, not a natural one...
chick is laying the smack down on this religious nutjob ;D
its 100% BIOLOGICALLY DETERMINED. its not something they 'turn to', you dont 'become' gay just because your a momma's boy ::) thats the dumbest shit ive ever heard...it may turn you into a metrosexual or something, but a true homo is that way because his genes determined it. just like you never 'decided' you were going to like girls, they never 'decide' that they are going to like dudes it just happens.
one reason you can tell its all biological is cause there are so many fags with things like clearly effeminate bone structures and undeveloped, girl like voices among other things...when their bdies were forming they for whatever reason got their male and female traits/genes mixed up.
oh and there are gay animals as well, so that alone will tell you its not just some human behaviour decision.
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chick is laying the smack down on this religious nutjob ;D
its 100% BIOLOGICALLY DETERMINED. its not something they 'turn to', you dont 'become' gay just because your a momma's boy ::) thats the dumbest shit ive ever heard...it may turn you into a metrosexual or something, but a true homo is that way because his genes determined it. just like you never 'decided' you were going to like girls, they never 'decide' that they are going to like dudes it just happens.
one reason you can tell its all biological is cause there are so many fags with things like clearly effeminate bone structures and undeveloped, girl like voices among other things...when their bdies were forming they for whatever reason got their male and female traits/genes mixed up.
oh and there are gay animals as well, so that alone will tell you its not just some human behaviour decision.
So are murderers, rapists, pedos, drug addict, thieves, etc all biologically predetermined, or is it just homosexuality?
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Could be.
That sucks .
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Does that mean drug addicts have a "natural attraction to drugs" or murders have a "natural attraction" to murder? What about pedophiles Bob? Is is OK for them to have a "natural attraction" to kids?
Pretty dumb argument...were talking about sexual orientation. No young kid is pre-disposed to taking drugs, or wanting to murder someone, or wanting to have sex with kids... No one is saying that being a pedo is OK.
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That sucks .
All I'm sayin is.........have you seen A Clockwork Orange?
(http://images-partners.google.com/images?q=tbn:igMI_FDD0IQDuM::http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/cultureshock/flashpoints/theater/images/clockwork_big.jpg)
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Pretty dumb argument...were talking about sexual orientation. No young kid is pre-disposed to taking drugs, or wanting to murder someone, or wanting to have sex with kids... No one is saying that being a pedo is OK.
That's my point, you're saying homos are genetically wired that way, why can't the same be said for the other I listed? Because you don't approve of those actions? Your argument here is weak.
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chick is laying the smack down on this religious nutjob ;D
its 100% BIOLOGICALLY DETERMINED. its not something they 'turn to', you dont 'become' gay just because your a momma's boy ::) thats the dumbest shit ive ever heard...it may turn you into a metrosexual or something, but a true homo is that way because his genes determined it. just like you never 'decided' you were going to like girls, they never 'decide' that they are going to like dudes it just happens.
one reason you can tell its all biological is cause there are so many fags with things like clearly effeminate bone structures and undeveloped, girl like voices among other things...when their bdies were forming they for whatever reason got their male and female traits/genes mixed up.
oh and there are gay animals as well, so that alone will tell you its not just some human behaviour decision.
How do trannies develop real tits? People say it's because of the hormones they take but how come it doesn't work on real woman that have no boobs? Also, when they take hormones to be more like a girl how come some of there have such massive cocks? Wouldn't female hormones make it shrink?
Anyone? Wiggs?
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All I'm sayin is.........have you seen A Clockwork Orange?
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No , what's that about ?
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That's my point, you're saying homos are genetically wired that way, why can't the same be said for the other I listed? Because you don't approve of those actions? Your argument here is weak.
It cant be the same for the simple fact that, while there might be people that are "rotten" by nature, were talking about a sexual orientation, a physical attraction to males or females (or both)...just as you got your first boner when looking at your dads playboy stash, but felt nothing the first time you saw another guys johnson.
This really isnt that difficult to figure out...
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It cant be the same for the simple fact that, while there might be people that are "rotten" by nature, were talking about a sexual orientation, a physical attraction to males or females (or both)...just as you got your first boner when looking at your dads playboy stash, but felt nothing the first time you saw another guys johnson.
This really isnt that difficult to figure out...
actually it is the same...
just to let you guys know it is thought by the majority of psychologist to be a combination of the two nature and nurture...
and in the same way a person may be more apt to be more aggressive or violent is the same way a person may be more aprt to be attracted to males than females....
but its society which is the nurture that grants them the ability to do so, we curb violence b/c it is deemed bad...notice how there are alot more gays than 50 yrs ago?
the nurture part has played a role in that...
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I'm liking Bob's argument... but I'm gonna play Devil's advocate for a second to give another perspective and say, since the second you are born you are exposed to Male-Female relationships, your parents, your aunts and uncles, your friends' parents, your cousins, etc etc, everyone around you is living a "straight" lifestyle, so you just follow suit and do like everyone you see, you chase girls, date girls, try to kiss girls, etc etc.... So if we use that argument we still haven't answered that question what causes homosexuality? Did gay people experience something else during their childhood?
Whatever, I personally believe you're born with it, just like straight people are born straight, just wanted to give another point of view!
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I'm liking Bob's argument... but I'm gonna play Devil's advocate for a second to give another perspective and say, since the second you are born you are exposed to Male-Female relationships, your parents, your aunts and uncles, your friends' parents, your cousins, etc etc, everyone around you is living a "straight" lifestyle, so you just follow suit and do like everyone you see, you chase girls, date girls, try to kiss girls, etc etc.... So if we use that argument we still haven't answered that question what causes homosexuality? Did gay people experience something else during their childhood?
Whatever, I personally believe you're born with it, just like straight people are born straight, just wanted to give another point of view!
Exactly right...from day one, we are exposed to a hetero way of life. From the clothes we are put in, to the choice of toys we play with, to seeing mom and dad living together, etc....
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So are murderers, rapists, pedos, drug addict, thieves, etc all biologically predetermined, or is it just homosexuality?
thats a completely different thing than sexual attraction which is a basic innate function of every species...well for Pedos its the same thing as homos- its biological, their wiring did not develop along normal lines. im sure they did not 'decide' to be attracted to pre-pubescent people it just happened that way, just like you never 'decided' that you were going to like girls.
as far as the other assholes you listed, its both. drug addicts have basic biological chemistries/genetics that make them predispositioned to be more 'affected' by whatever drug, for example some people never get in to drinking, some drink tons but never 'crave' it, some have one drink and its triggers something far greater in their minds, and they crave the feeling constantly. environment plays a huge role in this as well obviously...someone exposed to drugs early on, and frequently, may get used to them as far as a lifestyle, but could just as easily stop doing them completely when in a better situation (because they have the 'normal' biology), whereas some kid who was sheltered all along can try a drink when hes 25 then suddenly finding himself craving it constantly (because his biology reacted to the drug more strongly than 'normal', due to his basic genetic predispositions.
just like murderers. murderers show up in all environments from the worst slums to the richest upbringings, so obviously there is something more that just environmental factors causing them to feel compelled to go out and kill people.
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but its society which is the nurture that grants them the ability to do so, we curb violence b/c it is deemed bad...notice how there are alot more gays than 50 yrs ago?
the nurture part has played a role in that...
no thats complete bs. i dont think there are 'more' homos now, its just that now its Completely accepted and in the mainstream so you see them all open about it...whereas in the past when it was condemned by society, all the homos had to live in fear and secrecy. they have always been around, its just that nowdays its ok for them all to be out in the open.
and as far as the 'nurture' crap...what about the days of the greeks and romans? those kids all grew up in a relatively harsh, 'manly' environments...as far as possibly from the metrosexual, soft, pampered society we have now... yet it is well known that homosexuality was widespread and largely accepted as a normal thing in those civilizations.
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It doesn't matter...because it was never a decision you consciencely made....just as you had a natural attraction to females, the homosexual has a natural attraction to males
Your religion blinds you from common sense
The ultimate irony, is that for the same reasoning you believe homosexuals to "turn around" to their sexual attraction....you believe what you do as a LEARNED process, not a natural one...
Saying that homosexuality is a natural attraction means that the behavior would be acceptable to God. Wether you agree with that or not, you do know what the scripture has to say about homosexuality, its not natural and not acceptable.
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no thats complete bs. i dont think there are 'more' homos now, its just that now its Completely accepted and in the mainstream so you see them all open about it...whereas in the past when it was condemned by society, all the homos had to live in fear and secrecy. they have always been around, its just that nowdays its ok for them all to be out in the open.
and as far as the 'nurture' crap...what about the days of the greeks and romans? those kids all grew up in a relatively harsh, 'manly' environments...as far as possibly from the metrosexual, soft, pampered society we have now... yet it is well known that homosexuality was widespread and largely accepted as a normal thing in those civilizations.
LOL youre just making the case bro...whether it is that there were less homos or whether it is the case that less indulged in the behavior...the CULTURE which is NURTURE played a role in their behavior...meaning that it is a combination of both nature and nurture...if this wasnt the case you wouldnt have ppl who are gay one day, straight the next and bi sexual the day after b/c according to thos who think its simply nature they just know which isnt the case...
again youre missing the culture of the greeks and romans that was accepting of that behavior, look at islamic societies and see how prevelant homosexuality is in those...so nurture has a place in this debate...
you think that just by chance more ppl in california are gentically prone to being gay than other states? LOL noooooo its b/c the culture in that state is more accepting allowing them to indulge in that behavior
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thats a completely different thing than sexual attraction which is a basic innate function of every species...well for Pedos its the same thing as homos- its biological, their wiring did not develop along normal lines. im sure they did not 'decide' to be attracted to pre-pubescent people it just happened that way, just like you never 'decided' that you were going to like girls.
as far as the other assholes you listed, its both. drug addicts have basic biological chemistries/genetics that make them predispositioned to be more 'affected' by whatever drug, for example some people never get in to drinking, some drink tons but never 'crave' it, some have one drink and its triggers something far greater in their minds, and they crave the feeling constantly. environment plays a huge role in this as well obviously...someone exposed to drugs early on, and frequently, may get used to them as far as a lifestyle, but could just as easily stop doing them completely when in a better situation (because they have the 'normal' biology), whereas some kid who was sheltered all along can try a drink when hes 25 then suddenly finding himself craving it constantly (because his biology reacted to the drug more strongly than 'normal', due to his basic genetic predispositions.
just like murderers. murderers show up in all environments from the worst slums to the richest upbringings, so obviously there is something more that just environmental factors causing them to feel compelled to go out and kill people.
All I'm saying is that gays use the "I was born this way" excuse to push for legality of marriage and special "protective" rights...........why can't criminals use the same excuse?
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Exactly...you "didnt know why"....as it was your natural instinct. JUst as homosexuals dont know why and are attracted to who they are by the same instinct....
Not in Goodrums case. His is rare. Not one female ever wanted to be with him. He tried everything he could with no luck. he then tried bestiality and found it very easy (he had a submissive Labrador) but he wanted more. He enjoyed licking the little pink thing that out of his dog but felt like he was being used. Then came Vissy. A pale white (almost clear) person with only one goal in life. TO be with a dark guy who was dumber and worse built than he was. And as the saying goes "it was love at first sight".
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All I'm saying is that gays use the "I was born this way" excuse to push for legality of marriage and special "protective" rights...........why can't criminals use the same excuse?
LOL youre using way to much logic for the average getbigger...
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No , what's that about ?
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All I'm saying is that gays use the "I was born this way" excuse to push for legality of marriage and special "protective" rights...........why can't criminals use the same excuse?
Because criminals commit (a) crime(s) that negatively affects the victim(s), whose consent they go against in performing whatever act of crime they commit. Gay people choose to be with each other through mutual and voluntary consent.
My view of the issue is that there are a certain number of individuals who are born innately gay, others who are bisexual by inclination and the majority, who are heterosexual. There are cases which are in the grey zone - they may or may not become gay depending on things like social factors and whether they take it up (pardon the pun) as an acquired taste or not, for whatever reason (because it's cool or they like the person for their own reasons or whatever).
Being a mommy's boy who was raised by a dominant mother won't turn a straight guy into a homo, but it will push the ones in the grey zone, although not necessarily in every single case.
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If being gay was biological, it would cease to exist at some point, since gays cannot breed and pass along the gene that causes it. Even if some gays were willing to sleep with the opposite sex just to become pregnant, a substantial percentage of them would not be willing to, and the numbers would decrease until gays no longer existed.
I think the reason for later life homosexuality is taking on an occupation generally accepted as being for the opposite sex, for instance, a "man" becoming a nurse. Then again, the reverse could be true, and the cause and effect just the opposite.
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sure there will always be the 'confused' individuals, who often have other mental issues, who go all different ways in their lives..but this tiny minority doesnt negate the vast majority of actual homos who are gay from day one and remain so their whole lives.
what do you mental midgets make of two brothers in the same family, raised not only in similar environments/cultures but the EXACT SAME one, same family, same parents, same neighborhood, exposed to the same media, and one is gay and the other is not?
and yes, Pedos and lots of murderers simply ARE 'just made that way'. the difference is that they KILL PEOPLE and society obviously cant allow or excuse that just because its the way they are...because they affect other, unconsenting individuals in negative ways. homos on the other hand are 'condoned' by society because they do not hurt or negatively affect others in society who are not like them. its not that hard to understand.
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Because criminals commit (a) crime(s) that negatively affects the victim(s), whose consent they go against in performing whatever act of crime they commit. Gay people choose to be with each other through mutual and voluntary consent.
the point is that to some extent their behavior is beyond their control just like homosexuality. I agree with your reasoning but if by some ppl's logic gays should be given special treatment b/c of this why are others with similar conditions not?
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Because criminals commit (a) crime(s) that negatively affects the victim(s), whose consent they go against in performing whatever act of crime they commit. Gay people choose to be with each other through mutual and voluntary consent.
It's not about free will, it's about born that way or not.
If someone is born with a violent (or any of the others I've mentioned) predisposition, should society be forced to accept it because they were born that way?
And I'm not arguing whether or not homosexuality is right or wrong, I'm talking about the excuse they use in an attempt to receive special privileges/rights/protection.
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Because criminals commit (a) crime(s) that negatively affects the victim(s), whose consent they go against in performing whatever act of crime they commit. Gay people choose to be with each other through mutual and voluntary consent.
My view of the issue is that there are a certain number of individuals who are born innately gay, others who are bisexual by inclination and the majority, who are heterosexual. There are cases which are in the grey zone - they may or may not become gay depending on things like social factors and whether they take it up (pardon the pun) as an acquired taste or not, for whatever reason (because it's cool or they like the person for their own reasons or whatever).
Being a mommy's boy who was raised by a dominant mother won't turn a straight guy into a homo, but it will push the ones in the grey zone, although not necessarily in every single case.
you are using too much rational thought kiwi. they will not understand this.
better keep your future sons from watching modern tv, it might 'turn them gay' ;D
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sure there will always be the 'confused' individuals, who often have other mental issues, who go all different ways in their lives..but this tiny minority doesnt negate the vast majority of actual homos who are gay from day one and remain so their whole lives.
what do you mental midgets make of two brothers in the same family, raised not only in similar environments/cultures but the EXACT SAME one, same family, same parents, same neighborhood, exposed to the same media, and one is gay and the other is not?
and yes, Pedos and lots of murderers simply ARE 'just made that way'. the difference is that they KILL PEOPLE and society obviously cant allow or excuse that just because its the way they are...because they affect other, unconsenting individuals in negative ways. homos on the other hand are 'condoned' by society because they do not hurt or negatively affect others in society who are not like them. its not that hard to understand.
LOL no one is saying that genetics doesnt have anything to do with it we are just saying that it isnt the only factor...
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i dont know what 'special treatment/priviledges' you guys are talking about...i think they only want and get equal treatment/privileges as the rest of society.
and as i and kiwi have already explained: murderers and Pedos CAN say that they were born that way. they DO say it. and its true. BUT TI DOESNT MATTER, because they -unlike homos- KILL AND ABUSE unconsenting members of society so they will NEVER get the 'special privilidges' you guys keep speculating about ::)
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i dont know what 'special treatment/priviledges' you guys are talking about...i think they only want and get equal treatment/privileges as the rest of society.
and as i and kiwi have already explained: murderers and Pedos CAN say that they were born that way. they DO say it. and its true. BUT TI DOESNT MATTER, because they -unlike homos- KILL AND ABUSE unconsenting members of society so they will NEVER get the 'special privilidges' you guys keep speculating about ::)
You should learn to be more tolerant towards people born with disabilities, like pedos and rapists and gays.
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i dont know what 'special treatment/priviledges' you guys are talking about...i think they only want and get equal treatment/privileges as the rest of society.
and as i and kiwi have already explained: murderers and Pedos CAN say that they were born that way. they DO say it. and its true. BUT TI DOESNT MATTER, because they -unlike homos- KILL AND ABUSE unconsenting members of society so they will NEVER get the 'special privilidges' you guys keep speculating about ::)
LOL how about being able to sexually harass ppl without being brought up on charges?
you think a straight man walking into a womans locker room wouldnt get that man arrested? but gay men can be in a locker room with other men and its perfectly acceptable...seems equal?
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LOL how about being able to sexually harass ppl without being brought up on charges?
you think a straight man walking into a womans locker room wouldnt get that man arrested? but gay men can be in a locker room with other men and its perfectly acceptable...seems equal?
you are using too much rational thought kiwi tony. they will not understand this.
better keep your future sons from watching modern tv, it might 'turn them gay' ;D
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the point is that to some extent their behavior is beyond their control just like homosexuality. I agree with your reasoning but if by some ppl's logic gays should be given special treatment b/c of this why are others with similar conditions not?
What do you mean by special treatment? Gay people ask for equal treatment, such as having their marriages recognized as well as things like their "right" to raise a child and so on. Special treatment would equate to something like their wanting to be taxed lower than a straight person of the same economic bracket simply because of their being gay.
It's not about free will, it's about born that way or not.
If someone is born with a violent (or any of the others I've mentioned) predisposition, should society be forced to accept it because they were born that way?
Not at all. Society can recognize someone having psychological problems, such as being very angry and violent, but not accept any such behaviour from those individuals. The fact that they have a problem doesn't give them the right to do what they want. If they lose the distinction of what they can and cannot do, it means they are mentally ill and need medical help (and confinement).
An average person in the street may want to drive a Ferrari which is beyond their means to own, but they don't break the law and steal one just to satiate their need. When they do, they are recognized as a criminal and dealt with accordingly.
It is by their actions that people are judged.
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what do you mental midgets make of two brothers in the same family, raised not only in similar environments/cultures but the EXACT SAME one, same family, same parents, same neighborhood, exposed to the same media, and one is gay and the other is not?
LOL you guys should really do some research into this instead of going off personal opinion...
first off if it was genetic and were identical twins they would have the same genetic make up meaning if one is genetically gay the other will be or at the very least by very similiar in that respect...
there are studies out there that have been conducted on twins in regards to homosexuality and the results are in favor of NURTURE being a part of determining homosexuality as well as nature...
do some research...
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What do you mean by special treatment? Gay people ask for equal treatment, such as having their marriages recognized as well as things like their "right" to raise a child and so on. Special treatment would equate to something like their wanting to be taxed lower than a straight person of the same economic bracket simply because of their being gay.
Not at all. Society can recognize someone having psychological problems, such as being very angry and violent, but not accept any such behaviour from those individuals. The fact that they have a problem doesn't give them the right to do what they want. If they lose the distinction of what they can and cannot do, it means they are mentally ill and need medical help (and confinement).
An average person in the street may want to drive a Ferrari which is beyond their means to own, but they don't break the law and steal one just to satiate their need. When they do, they are recognized as a criminal and dealt with accordingly.
So why should society be forced to accept homosexual behavior, which the vast majority have already deemed unacceptable?
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So why should society be forced to accept homosexual behavior, which the vast majority have already deemed unacceptable?
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!
those who are proponents cite the idea that b/c homosexuality is at least partially out of their control we shouldnt discriminate against them...
so is anger though and yes there is the detriment part we get that but shouldnt the fact that its at least partially biological be taken into account?
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What is the benefit to society as a whole by legalizing gay marriage or giving them whatever other "equal" rights they feel they need a law to achieve?
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So why should society be forced to accept homosexual behavior, which the vast majority have already deemed unacceptable?
Society cannot and shouldn't be forced to accept anything, especially a practice that affects only the participants who are doing it as adults, with informed consent and mutual desire. The only universal system of rules that every individual in a society has to abide by is the set of laws and regulations in place in that society / country.
The gays don't need the approval of joe public to do what they want to each other in the confines of their bedroom and society doesn't have to accept their behaviour anymore than it needs to accept a movie as being good or bad - it all boils down to the individual's point of view.
There are no victims in 2 adults having consensual sex when they are of the same gender. But there are victims in acts of crime, paedophilia and rape, where one or more individuals force their way upon the victim(s), which is why the people guilty of the latter acts can't be grouped with law abiding citizens who are simply gay.
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Society cannot and shouldn't be forced to accept anything, especially a practice that affects only the participants who are doing it as adults, with informed consent and mutual desire. The gays don't need the approval of joe public to do what they want to each other in the confines of their bedroom and society doesn't have to accept their behaviour anymore than it needs to accept a movie as being good or bad - it all boils down to the individual's point of view.
There are no victims in 2 adults having consensual sex when they are of the same gender. But there are victims in acts of crime, paedophilia and rape, where one or more individuals force their way upon the victim(s), which is why the people guilty of the latter acts can't be grouped with law abiding citizens who are simply gay.
Are you aware of the AIDS statistics for the homosexual population? "no victims"? Well, I guess if they agree they can't really be a victim, right?
But this discussion isn't about equal rights and all that, it's about being "born that way"..........were do we draw the line on the use of that excuse?
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Are you aware of the AIDS statistics for the homosexual population? "no victims"? Well, I guess if they agree they can't really be a victim, right?
Absolutely not. If you know that you will get run over if you carelessly cross a busy road but do it anyway on purpose for a joke or whatever, you're not a victim. But if someone forces you to cross the road at gunpoint or blindfolds you and makes you do it, then yes, you're a victim.
A victim is anyone who gets unfairly taken advantage of, by another party, through the use of force or cheating by the latter. If a gay guy who has AIDS has sex with another guy who knows the first guy's situation, the partner is not a victim. But the partner is, if the infected guy didn't disclose the information or lied about it in the first place.
were do we draw the line on the use of that excuse?
Where their actions begin. Everyone has demons that they have to deal with. But if they let those take them over and break the law, they have to pay the price.
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So why should society be forced to accept homosexual behavior, which the vast majority have already deemed unacceptable?
1) why should society be forced to accept left handed behavior when at one time the vast majority of Christians saw it as the work of the devil.
2) in 1967, the Supreme Court ruled in Loving v. Virginia that anti-miscegenation laws were unconstitutional. A much higher percentage of the population at that time thought mixed race marriages were unacceptable than people today think gay marriage is unacceptable.
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1) why should society be forced to accept left handed behavior when at one time the vast majority of Christians saw it as the work of the devil.
2) in 1967, the Supreme Court ruled in Loving v. Virginia that anti-miscegenation laws were unconstitutional. A much higher percentage of the population at that time thought mixed race marriages were unacceptable than people today think gay marriage is unacceptable.
And?
Like I asked earlier in the thread........what is the benefit of society and the general population as a whole in making gay marriage legal? I see a small minority of homosexuals jumping up and down, making all kinds of noise, when most of them want to be left alone and live thier lives, not plastered all over TV as some kind of freak show.
Tim, were you born gay, or did you start out with girls and change over at some point in time?
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To me it doesn't matter if people want to give homosexuals the same exact legal rights as a married couple.
I do have a huge problem with people wanting to change the definition of marriage. Marriage, as ordained by God, is the union of man and woman, period.
If its about equal rights under the law, give civil unions the same benefits as a married couple.
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Jesus finally a thread where Goodrum could actually be some value too and he avoids it. Come on Goodrum, we know you suck cock come on here and tell us how it started. Did you start young or what.
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What do you mean by special treatment? Gay people ask for equal treatment, such as having their marriages recognized as well as things like their "right" to raise a child and so on. Special treatment would equate to something like their wanting to be taxed lower than a straight person of the same economic bracket simply because of their being gay.
You must have missed my earlier brilliant commentary.
Gays ARE asking for special rights. They have the same rights to marry as anybody else. Nobody has the right, in the legal sense, to marry the same sex. That right has never existed in all of time immemorial.
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Like I asked earlier in the thread........what is the benefit of society and the general population as a whole in making gay marriage legal? I see a small minority of homosexuals jumping up and down, making all kinds of noise, when most of them want to be left alone and live thier lives, not plastered all over TV as some kind of freak show.
I agree with you there. If someone hates gays, they are going to have contempt for the group regardless of whether the law recognizes gay marriages or not.
If gay people want gay marriages to be legally recognized solely for prestige and show purposes, then they're actually doing the opposite by begging society to grant them recognition. And it would be pointless, although I guess they may get some satisfaction out of it. But if they are being unfairly subject to laws that would otherwise be to their advantage had the system recognized their union, then there is justification for it.
It's definitely a complex situation that can't be resolved with simple blanket statements or arguments.
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1) why should society be forced to accept left handed behavior when at one time the vast majority of Christians saw it as the work of the devil.
2) in 1967, the Supreme Court ruled in Loving v. Virginia that anti-miscegenation laws were unconstitutional. A much higher percentage of the population at that time thought mixed race marriages were unacceptable than people today think gay marriage is unacceptable.
1.Being left handed is a physical condition. Homosexual sex is a behavior which is accepted behavior in our society. We don't put them in jail anymore. Same argument for 2.
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Being attracted or having sexual desires for the same sex is one thing. Homosexual behavior is something else. If a person engages in homosexuality that does not mean, strictly speaking, he is gay in the sense of being attracted to the same sex. If that were the case then for some just merely going to prison changes your genetically predisposed sexual orientation.
OK, I missed this earlier. A person engaging in a homosexual act is gay, as long as they're not being forced to do it. A guy fcuking another guy in prison is gay, or a bisexual, even if he only started the same sex act in prison. A straight guy won't engage in gay sex in prison - he may get raped or be made to fcuk another guy under force of threat, but if that happens, he's a rape victim, not a gay guy, because he wouldn't have engaged in that act under a free situation.
As for your other argument about gay marriages, they are simply assertions that you've based upon the bible and the view points of a couple of people, neither of which are absolutely binding, especially to people who don't agree with them or of a different faith (or not, like atheists).
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OK, I missed this earlier. A person engaging in a homosexual act is gay, as long as they're not being forced to do it. A guy fcuking another guy in prison is gay, or a bisexual, even if he only started the same sex act in prison. A straight guy won't engage in gay sex in prison - he may get raped or be made to fcuk another guy under force of threat, but if that happens, he's a rape victim, not a gay guy, because he wouldn't have engaged in that act under a free situation.
As for your other argument about gay marriages, they are simply assertions that you've based upon the bible and the view points of a couple of people, neither of which are absolutely binding, especially to people who don't agree with them or of a different faith (or not, like atheists).
In ancient Greek it was common to have a boy concubine. The men did not consider themselves gay. It was part of the culture and people grew up thinking this was normal. As gay behavior, not being genuinely being attracted to the same sex, because more common, main stream and trendy, you will get more of that behavior. Sexual behavior, especially in the early years, is not always fixed in stone and can be fluid. It is not uncommon for both men and women to "experiment" during the formative years.
What argument did I make vis-a-vis gay marriage that was religious based? The only point I was making was that it's a fallacious argument to claim that gays don't have he same rights to marriage as heteros. They do.
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Despite popular beliefs, the vast majority of Catholic priests are celibate. A politician recently announced that at 53 years old he has remained celibate because sex is only allowed within the context of marriage.
Though it seems incomprehensible in this day and age, there are still people left and are really out there that have the discipline to practice self-control and adhere and really practice their beliefs.
And no where in the Bible, or in Christianity, does it implore one to hate the sin and not the sinner. That was said by Ghandi not Christ. It seems incongruous to profess to love someone and then condemn them to hell. Buddhism is a pacifistic belief system.
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
Like so many passages in the Bible: "Turn the other cheek.", "Judge not, lest ye be judged.", "Eye for an eye.", context is everything, my tranny loving friend.
First of all, that particular passage was never included in the original text and many believe it doesn't belong in the Book of John. But no matter. Like several instances in the Bible where many tried to "trip up" or "trap" Jesus and find inconsistencies in his teaching this was one of them. If Jesus allowed the woman to be stoned the Romans would seized them for violating their law. Adultery was punishable by exile and confiscation of property. A father was permitted to kill his daughter and her partner. And a husband was allowed to kill his wife's partner only under specific circumstances but only require to divorce his wife. Remember, adultery was defined as having sex with a married woman. This gave a married man a lot of leeway. He could, and many did, have sex with unmarried women.
Now, if Jesus allowed the woman to go free he would lose face with the people for not adhering to the law of Moses. The onus was now on the people, mostly Pharisees, who were put in the dilemma of admitting some sin or that their position meant more to them than Mosaic law.
So to reiterate: God hates a fag. And if you're a fag -- he hates you, too.
Do you believe Jesus would approve of your hate? Look what he said to the whore, Mary Magdalin when a bunch of Jews outed her as one...He would not approve of your hate and you would actually be worse than the sinner. God does not hate anyone. Please don't spew the blasphamic phrase God hates fags cause he doesn't and you and I both know that despite you hate of homosexuals....I
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In ancient Greek it was common to have a boy concubine. The men did not consider themselves gay. It was part of the culture and people grew up thinking this was normal. As gay behavior, not being genuinely being attracted to the same sex, because more common, main stream and trendy, you will get more of that behavior. Sexual behavior, especially in the early years, is not always fixed in stone and can be fluid. It is not uncommon for both men and women to "experiment" during the formative years.
People always justify their actions and rationalize them to give them a more innocent label, lol. Whether the Greek men who fcuked boys considered themselves gay or not, they ARE/WERE gay. Yes, some people experiment during some time or the other in their life - when they do, they become bi-curious individuals and can't be categorized as straight from then on.
The uncertain sexual preferences don't apply to tons of straight people (esp. guys), who never get tempted to engage in homosexual behaviour. I'm one of them and in my guess, so is the majority of this forum. I personally don't care if someone is gay - I'm just arguing about the logic behind the classification.
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Do you believe Jesus would approve of your hate? Look what he said to the whore, Mary Magdalin when a bunch of Jews outed her as one...He would not approve of your hate and you would actually be worse than the sinner. God does not hate anyone. Please don't spew the blasphamic phrase God hates fags cause he doesn't and you and I both know that despite you hate of homosexuals....I
Low on weed, eh?
I was being facetious about God hates a fag. Didn't you watch the vid? Nobody is getting my sarcasm lately. I did want to make the point about the hate the sin and not the sinner quote is not from Christianity but was said by Ghandi. And never ever ever conflate feelings with behavior. To equate a feeling such as hate with a hateful act is ludicrous and God does not judge a feeling more than an action.
What do you care more about? How someone feels about you or how they treat you? What do you care if someone at your work is a racist and hate Blacks as long as he treats you with courtesy and dignity.
It's not always wrong to hate and there seems to be some anti-hate movement. Like somehow never being angry or hating evil makes one morally superior. I hate Richard Allen Davies and want to see him suffer. I want him to burn in hell. He raped an murdered an innocent little girl named Polly Klaas.
Does that make me worse than Davies?
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when they do, they become bi-curious individuals and can't be categorized as straight from then on.
I'm going to assume that you meant bi-sexual rather than bi-curious.
By that logic, once you steal you are always a thief, once you lie you are always a liar, once you smoked you are always a smoker, once you throw down with Swede you are always an MMA fighter.
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the current thought is that homosexual men are caused by mothers with an excess of "man-loving gene".. whatever that might be.
it was discovered that homosexual men tend to come from families with large amounts of children. that is to say, they come from mothers who get pregnant alot. this might indicate that the mothers of homosexual men have something about them that makes them desire men, and sex with men, more than the average woman. a so called "man loving gene". and this can be passed down to one of the male offsrping.
-Interesting theory. I am bisexual and I was an only child.
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-Interesting theory. I am bisexual and I was an only child.
I come from a family of nine and I'm heterosexual -- all the way heterosexual.
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If you look at a ahem, certain population, that has huge number of single mothers with male children, you see a significant number of the men are gay, or exhibit effeminate qualities. For instance, how Kanye West acts all emotional and throws temper tantrums, well he was raised by a woman, most of the time he was around women, so he takes on some of their attributes. Even some of these thugs, they "over react" to certain situations just like a female would.
There is no "silver bullet", no one singular answer, but there are multiple.
Being gay and manifesting effeminate mannerism are not synonymous. There are lots of masculine acting gay men and effeminate acting straight men.
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I come from a family of nine and I'm heterosexual -- all the way heterosexual.
Good for you. Tell me, why did you feel the need to emphasize that you are heterosexual by writing "all the way heterosexual?" If you are straight and secure in that knowledge, why would you care if someone thought you might be gay?
While it is clear many so call straight dudes are homophobic, why do you suppose you never hear about gay dudes being heterophobic? Homophobic = fear of homosexuals vs. heterophobic = fear of heterosexuals. By fear, I don't believe it means the same thing as being afraid someone will beat the crap out of you because you aren't the same as they are. But, I could be wrong about this.
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A lot of Gay dudes have this thing about declaring such and such gay, more so that "they" want these people to be gay, or that "they" want being homosexual to be "normal" and making or claiming so and so "gay" furthers their goal, and they don't want to look at as being outcasts
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Good for you. Tell me, why did you feel the need to emphasize that you are heterosexual by writing "all the way heterosexual?" If you are straight and secure in that knowledge, why would you care if someone thought you might be gay?
While it is clear many so call straight dudes are homophobic, why do you suppose you never hear about gay dudes being heterophobic? Homophobic = fear of homosexuals vs. heterophobic = fear of heterosexuals. By fear, I don't believe it means the same thing as being afraid someone will beat the crap out of you because you aren't the same as they are. But, I could be wrong about this.
Hetero is the norm. That is why straight guys "fear" about being mistaken for being a fag. Nothing lost for a queer to be mistaken as straight.
On bodybuilding boards one of the most common and oft paraphrased lines in Pumping Iron is, "Big dude. All the way big dude." Get it? It's sort of our special little inside joke.
Jeeze. Lighten up, homo.
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Sure whatever, as you resort to name calling. Maybe it is you who should lighten up, fella....you are seeming a little paranoid/homophobic here.
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Sure whatever, as you resort to name calling. Maybe it is you who should lighten up, fella....you are seeming a little paranoid/homophobic here.
What name calling? You said you were part homo right? But I just noticed that you are new here. This is GetBig not some fag board you're probably use to. Here we don't have to be politically correct and make sure we use the proper and acceptable terms and mind our manners. There's a positive board here for that. If you easily get butt hurt you should go to that board. They'll say oral copulation instead of cock sucking.
And homophobic? homo please? Who can be afraid of a guy who gets on all fours with his ass propped up in the air begging to be mounted, dominated and owned by another man? Not my thing but whatever makes you feel good. I'm libertarian on these issues and if it doesn't effect me it's none of my business.
Now stop whining like a submissive bottom bitch.
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And homophobic? homo please? Who can be afraid of a guy who gets on all fours with his ass propped up in the air begging to be mounted, dominated and owned by another man? Not my thing but whatever makes you feel good. I'm libertarian on these issues and if it doesn't effect me it's none of my business.
Now stop whining like a submissive bottom bitch.
I hate the term homophobic. I'm not afraid of gays, I just think its disgusting.
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Being gay and manifesting effeminate mannerism are not synonymous. There are lots of masculine acting gay men and effeminate acting straight men.
Never said it was I said "or"....
If you could guess the population I was talking about. Also, in population where men are constantly around one another, guess what happens? So, there needs to be balance when we are talking about raising boys, not for him to be surrounded by women all the time, and not for him to be always around dudes----ALL THE TIME.
We are also missing the hormonal component as well, I have to find this book, but there were researchers that found out that female rats that had more test in the wombs were far more aggressive, those male rats that had more estrogen in the wombs, were less agresive and exhibited homosexual attributes (having sex with one another). Like anything, balance is the key
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1.Being left handed is a physical condition. Homosexual sex is a behavior which is accepted behavior in our society. We don't put them in jail anymore. Same argument for 2.
homosexual orientation is no different than being left handed. you either have same sex attractions or you don't. no action is required. I was 20 the first time I had sex. That doesn't mean that I was heterosexual at 19.
Tim, were you born gay, or did you start out with girls and change over at some point in time?
I had same sex attractions when I was 7 and all through school.
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the current thought is that homosexual men are caused by mothers with an excess of "man-loving gene".. whatever that might be.
it was discovered that homosexual men tend to come from families with large amounts of children. that is to say, they come from mothers who get pregnant alot. this might indicate that the mothers of homosexual men have something about them that makes them desire men, and sex with men, more than the average woman. a so called "man loving gene". and this can be passed down to one of the male offsrping.
I have 5 sisters and 1 brother.
Noone in my family is gay. Is it not down to a chemical imbalance in the brain?
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What name calling? You said you were part homo right? But I just noticed that you are new here. This is GetBig not some fag board you're probably use to. Here we don't have to be politically correct and make sure we use the proper and acceptable terms and mind our manners. There's a positive board here for that. If you easily get butt hurt you should go to that board. They'll say oral copulation instead of cock sucking.
And homophobic? homo please? Who can be afraid of a guy who gets on all fours with his ass propped up in the air begging to be mounted, dominated and owned by another man? Not my thing but whatever makes you feel good. I'm libertarian on these issues and if it doesn't effect me it's none of my business.
Now stop whining like a submissive bottom bitch.
lol said like a good, natural libertarian....
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I have 5 sisters and 1 brother.
Noone in my family is gay. Is it not down to a chemical imbalance in the brain?
no, that's the Irish problem
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A lot of Gay dudes have this thing about declaring such and such gay
A common misconception. These people do exist. And they are morons. But they are not the majority. Not even close. It's just that they are a very visible minority. Most gays just do what most heterosexuals do: mind their own business and not flaunt their sexuality.
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A common misconception. These people do exist. And they are morons. But they are not the majority. Not even close. It's just that they are a very visible minority. Most gays just do what most heterosexuals do: mind their own business and not flaunt their sexuality.
when you live in a 3rd world shithole country and have the internet y'all make moronic assertions...
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lol said like a good, natural libertarian....
I'm just busting his ovaries because he's new. You're still my favorite queen.
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I'm just busting his ovaries because he's new. You're still my favorite queen.
ha i love you too honey :)
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when you live in a 3rd world shithole country and have the internet y'all make moronic assertions...
I would hardly call The Netherlands a 3rd world country!
Oh, you were talking about the US? Carry on. ;D
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I would hardly call The Netherlands a 3rd world country!
Oh, you were talking about the US? Carry on. ;D
10-4 ok quick question: what's with the euro's buying denim when over here? none available there ? all the levi, wrangler etc stores filled with twinky euro trash
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That was said by Ghandi not Christ.
And as we know for sure Ghandi existed then he may be a better choice to listen too. Otherwise you're relying on the interpretations of what others have written, about someone who never wrote a word.
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10-4 ok quick question: what's with the euro's buying denim when over here? none available there ? all the levi, wrangler etc stores filled with twinky euro trash
It's just a shitload more expensive here. Standard Levis and such aren't a luxury item here -- but close. Basically all clothing is expensive here, but especially American brands. But believe me: even though it's expensive here, they are everywhere.
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It's just a shitload more expensive here. Standard Levis and such aren't a luxury item here -- but close. Basically all clothing is expensive here, but especially American brands. But believe me: even though it's expensive here, they are everywhere.
Fuckin denims are way too expensive here. I walways struggle with those 'cause I have to find something to fit my thighs in and with a narrow waist also. Diesel does one model that fits me fine. That shit is about 150€ a piece. That's ridiculous for jeans I think. I have no problem paying ten times that for a nice suit but that seems to much for that type of fabric.
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Has anyone noticed how everyone's story has changed a little to support others theories as the debate has went on in an attempt to support their own?
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Has anyone noticed how everyone's story has changed a little to support others theories as the debate has went on in an attempt to support their own?
replace went with gone and you're almost assimilated, you terrorist :)
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I recently watched a documentary on Harley Davidson. On the Davidson side, there were four brothers, each with a different talent that contributed to the success of the product. One was good at sketching, another was very mechanical, another was a good engineer and the other was a great salesman.
That family is a microcosm of the species. For our survival we need a wide variety of skills and talents. Apparently, it's in the best interest of the species to have a small percentage of the population be men with an abnormal number of female characteristics and women with an abnormal number of male characteristics.
IMO, it's 100% biological.
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ask Xerses
he seems to have the GY chromosome
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Homosexuality = 100% biological.
I can't believe some of the comments in this thread trying to bring "religion" into it. Unbelieveable.
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And as we know for sure Ghandi existed then he may be a better choice to listen too. Otherwise you're relying on the interpretations of what others have written, about someone who never wrote a word.
What kind of logic is that? Because you believe that by virtue someone for sure existed then that, in and of itself, merits listening to? There is more evidence that Christ existed than Socrates but I would rather take heed of his admonishment that "the unexamined life is not worth living," rather than the pacifist Ghandi who said, "Hitler killed five million Jews. It is the greatest crime of our time. But the Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs.”
Ghandi believe that that collective suicide would have been a heroic response that would have "aroused the world and the people of Germany to Hitler's violence". LOL! It's always easy to ask someone else to die for a cause. Pacifism works when you are dealing with a decent person or government. That's why in India's battle for independence from the British Ghandi could lay across the train tracks and emerge unscathed. If he did that with the Nazis his mangled carcass would have been left for the butchers.
But I have a feeling your post was motivated more by anti-religion/anti-Christianity than any attempt at clear thinking.
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I suppose if someone is not religious they can make homosexuality and marriage whatever they want to make it.
Personally I am religious and I find the idea that homosexuals are born that way to be ridiculous. I'm not saying its as simple as a personal choice either. I'm sure something happens at some point in their life that moves them to that type of behavior. God made us all in his own likeness and image and with a certain nature and purpose. As he did with everything else on this earth. Scripture is clear on the issue of homosexuality so to say someone is born into the world like that just doesn't make sense.
i love god and i am bisexual. figure that one out ;)
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Some damn intelligent arguments and discussions here.
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A common misconception. These people do exist. And they are morons. But they are not the majority. Not even close. It's just that they are a very visible minority. Most gays just do what most heterosexuals do: mind their own business and not flaunt their sexuality.
I wasn't saying a majority, I said a lot. Especially in the black community. Sometimes they walk with their female shopping buddies and if that woman finds that man attractive, it's then "Ohh Gurl, he gay!", and the female will say, "are you sure?", the gay friend will say, "uh huh, sure he is..."
then on the radio stations, they want Tyson Beckford to be gay, they want any handsome uber masculine male to be gay...it's sickening to hear people talk like that
Even Bay thinks we are gay for being on a bbing board...
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i love god and i am bisexual. figure that one out ;)
You seem like a good person who is open minded, able to express yourself sexually and emotionally in a variety of situations and probably somewhat spiritual.
I consider myself to be spiritual, although my concept of God is probably different from what most traditional religions hold. I believe God wants us to be happy and to treat others as we wish to be treated ourselves. Thus being able feel and express affection for another human being, regardless of whether they are male or female, is positive in God's heart.
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What kind of logic is that? Because you believe that by virtue someone for sure existed then that, in and of itself, merits listening to? There is more evidence that Christ existed than Socrates but I would rather take heed of his admonishment that "the unexamined life is not worth living," rather than the pacifist Ghandi who said, "Hitler killed five million Jews. It is the greatest crime of our time. But the Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs.”
Ghandi believe that that collective suicide would have been a heroic response that would have "aroused the world and the people of Germany to Hitler's violence". LOL! It's always easy to ask someone else to die for a cause. Pacifism works when you are dealing with a decent person or government. That's why in India's battle for independence from the British Ghandi could lay across the train tracks and emerge unscathed. If he did that with the Nazis his mangled carcass would have been left for the butchers.
But I have a feeling your post was motivated more by anti-religion/anti-Christianity than any attempt at clear thinking.
The Jews did "offer themselves to the butchers knife" and as a result they "aroused the world and the people of Germany to Hitler's violence".
As most religions promise their followers a better world after death then mass suicide is only a step towards it. And if in committing it you make the world aware of the plight of others then your "God" will be pleased? Unless you're Catholic of course.
My personal views are that religion was the perfect way to control and regulate the masses through fear of what would happen if they didn't comply.
One things for sure, if a GOD does appear there will be one group rejoicing and another wondering why they wasted so much time on nothing.
And if someone can offer me a bunch of virgins in this world rather than the next then I'll listen to whatever he wants to tell me.
And as far as Socrates
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You seem like a good person who is open minded, able to express yourself sexually and emotionally in a variety of situations and probably somewhat spiritual.
I consider myself to be spiritual, although my concept of God is probably different from what most traditional religions hold. I believe God wants us to be happy and to treat others as we wish to be treated ourselves. Thus being able feel and express affection for another human being, regardless of whether they are male or female, is positive is God's heart.
i feel the same way, about bisexualness being positive in gods heart. (though ive never heard or used the term 'gods heart' before. i will now)
though i dont think being bisexual makes me a better person, or more open minded, than heterosexuals or homosexuals. technically, in terms of sexual open mindedness.. then yes of course by definition a bisexual would be more opne minded, well at least in regards to open mindedness about gender. but other than that, i dont feel like it necessarily means anything about me.
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The Jews did "offer themselves to the butchers knife" and as a result they "aroused the world and the people of Germany to Hitler's violence".
As most religions promise their followers a better world after death then mass suicide is only a step towards it. And if in committing it you make the world aware of the plight of others then your "God" will be pleased? Unless you're Catholic of course.
My personal views are that religion was the perfect way to control and regulate the masses through fear of what would happen if they didn't comply.
One things for sure, if a GOD does appear there will be one group rejoicing and another wondering why they wasted so much time on nothing.
And if someone can offer me a bunch of virgins in this world rather than the next then I'll listen to whatever he wants to tell me.
no, 72 virgins wouldnt interest you.
72 greasy pork pies though... a whole different ball game, eh lardy?
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What name calling? You said you were part homo right? But I just noticed that you are new here. This is GetBig not some fag board you're probably use to. Here we don't have to be politically correct and make sure we use the proper and acceptable terms and mind our manners. There's a positive board here for that. If you easily get butt hurt you should go to that board. They'll say oral copulation instead of cock sucking.
And homophobic? homo please? Who can be afraid of a guy who gets on all fours with his ass propped up in the air begging to be mounted, dominated and owned by another man? Not my thing but whatever makes you feel good. I'm libertarian on these issues and if it doesn't effect me it's none of my business.
Now stop whining like a submissive bottom bitch.
I wrote that I was bisexual; you wrote homo and later part homo. I am fine with you writing homo or part homo as long as you aren't being demeaning. So if it is just a word substitute in your less politically correct realm, then fine.
Thanks for your concern about my feelings (butt). Ha, ha! Actually, I am pretty thick skinned. If I weren’t, I probably wouldn’t have posted that I am bisexual, would I? I’ve been known to use slang terms myself. I am not as uptight as you seem to want to make me out to be.
For someone who does not know me or have any idea what I’ve done sexually, you make some pretty interesting assumptions about me. You do have quite an imagination, I must say. It is interesting how much you think you know and the detail you employ to express yourself about something that’s not your thing.
I have no idea how a submissive bottom bitch whines, but apparently you do. Trust me; I have no reason to whine, least of all in response to you. I am just making conversation here.
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Over 50% of homos have anal worms and other parasites!
Yet how many of these filth ridden scumbags (many of them black) work in our eateries?
Dirty dirty bastards, ripe for the ovens!
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Over 50% of homos have anal worms and other parasites!
Yet how many of these filth ridden scumbags (many of them black) work in our eateries?
Dirty dirty bastards, ripe for the ovens!
You're being too obvious, tone it down a notch or this one will end up in TO also. ;)
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i feel the same way, about bisexualness being positive in gods heart. (though ive never heard or used the term 'gods heart' before. i will now)
though i dont think being bisexual makes me a better person, or more open minded, than heterosexuals or homosexuals. technically, in terms of sexual open mindedness.. then yes of course by definition a bisexual would be more opne minded, well at least in regards to open mindedness about gender. but other than that, i dont feel like it necessarily means anything about me.
I probably didn't word what I wrote correctly; of course being bisexual does not mean you are open minded in a general sense, just open minded about your sexual expression. Also, you are right about one's sexuality not making them a better person than anyone else. There are good and not so good bisexual and gay folks, just as there are all manner of people who are heterosexual.
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You're being too obvious, tone it down a notch or this one will end up in TO also. ;)
He is being a bit obvious, isn't he? Well like they say, "You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Sooner or later, the mask falls and the truth is exposed.
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Over 50% of homos have anal worms and other parasites!
Yet how many of these filth ridden scumbags (many of them black) work in our eateries?
Dirty dirty bastards, ripe for the ovens!
Pinworm Infection
What are pinworms?
Pinworms are small, white worms that live in the intestines. Pinworm infections are common in young children and are easily treated.
If your child is infected with pinworms, he or she may frequently scratch his or her bottom. Your child may also move around a lot in bed at night or may not be able to sleep. The itching is caused by the female pinworm that comes out of the rectum to lay eggs around the anus (the opening to the rectum). The eggs stay in the upper part of the intestine until they hatch. After they hatch, the worms move down the length of the intestine, and then out the anus where they lay more eggs.
Sometimes tiny, white worms (shorter than 1/2 inch in length) may be seen on the child's bottom at night or they may show up in the child's stools.
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How do people get pinworms?
Pinworms are contagious and easily spread, usually from child to child. Pinworm eggs can be picked up on children's fingers when they are playing. When children who are infected scratch their itchy bottoms, the tiny eggs can get under their fingernails. Eggs can stay or your child's skin for several hours. They can survive for up to 3 weeks on clothes, bedding and toys. If the eggs are on your child's hands or toys and your child puts their fingers or toys in their mouth, the tiny eggs can enter their bodies. Children who don’t wash their hands thoroughly before eating and children who suck their thumbs are at an increased risk.
Although pinworm infections are more common in school-age children, anyone can get it. As children who are infected move around the house, the eggs may be spread, and other family members can become infected. Sometimes adults breathe in the eggs when the bed covers are shaken. However, this is not very common.
Pets do not spread pinworms, although they may carry their own kinds of worms.
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[size=8]PARASITES As Cofactors For AIDS[/size]
Excerpts from the work of
Dr. Richard Bowman Pearce
1 - Between 80 and 100 percent of sexually active homosexual men worldwide are infected with one or more species of intestinal parasite.
http://curezone.com/diseases/aids/cofactors.asp
Dirty fucking slags!
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PARASITES As Cofactors For AIDS
Excerpts from the work of
Dr. Richard Bowman Pearce
1 - Between 80 and 100 percent of sexually active homosexual men worldwide are infected with one or more species of intestinal parasite.
http://curezone.com/diseases/aids/cofactors.asp
Dirty fucking slags!
Well this does it, no more anal sex for me. How about you and those trannies you so like, Janet69?
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The Jews did "offer themselves to the butchers knife" and as a result they "aroused the world and the people of Germany to Hitler's violence".
As most religions promise their followers a better world after death then mass suicide is only a step towards it. And if in committing it you make the world aware of the plight of others then your "God" will be pleased? Unless you're Catholic of course.
My personal views are that religion was the perfect way to control and regulate the masses through fear of what would happen if they didn't comply.
One things for sure, if a GOD does appear there will be one group rejoicing and another wondering why they wasted so much time on nothing.
And if someone can offer me a bunch of virgins in this world rather than the next then I'll listen to whatever he wants to tell me.
And as far as Socrates
I don't know what you mean by the Jews did offer themselves to the butcher's knife. Are you saying they voluntarily went to the concentration camps. All six million of them. About the current population in today's Israel?
The societies that were most successful in controlling their populations were secular ones. Think the Soviet Union, East Germany, North Korea, China under Mao (where they even humor was outlawed and they were required to all dress the same).
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no, 72 virgins wouldnt interest you.
72 greasy pork pies though... a whole different ball game, eh lardy?
LOL!
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I wrote that I was bisexual; you wrote homo and later part homo. I am fine with you writing homo or part homo as long as you aren't being demeaning. So if it is just a word substitute in your less politically correct realm, then fine.
Thanks for your concern about my feelings (butt). Ha, ha! Actually, I am pretty thick skinned. If I weren’t, I probably wouldn’t have posted that I am bisexual, would I? I’ve been known to use slang terms myself. I am not as uptight as you seem to want to make me out to be.
For someone who does not know me or have any idea what I’ve done sexually, you make some pretty interesting assumptions about me. You do have quite an imagination, I must say. It is interesting how much you think you know and the detail you employ to express yourself about something that’s not your thing.
I have no idea how a submissive bottom bitch whines, but apparently you do. Trust me; I have no reason to whine, least of all in response to you. I am just making conversation here.
Actually, by announcing that you are bi-sexual everyone here has some idea what you've done sexually. It's a fair assumption but not really interesting.
And I do use the term "homo" as short for homosexual, just like I use "bi" for bisexual and "hetero" for "all the way hetero."
And I'm not making you seem uptight. You seemed to take umbrage to the paraphrased term "all the way hetero." Why even give that a second thought? But I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't catch the Pumping Iron reference. I didn't notice at the time that you are new here.
Now relax and suck a cock or eat a clam -- whatever you're in the mood for.
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Well this does it, no more anal sex for me. How about you and those trannies you so like, Janet69?
Shit, so who was Janet69? unberman? switzenegger? Hank Wood?
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I don't know what you mean by the Jews did offer themselves to the butcher's knife. Are you saying they voluntarily went to the concentration camps. All six million of them. About the current population in today's Israel?
The societies that were most successful in controlling their populations were secular ones. Think the Soviet Union, East Germany, North Korea, China under Mao (where they even humor was outlawed and they were required to all dress the same).
By not putting up a fight they effectively went voluntarily to the camps. Millions of people were slaughtered during the war - up to 14million Russian civilians - but its because of the way the Jews were killed that makes it more abhorrent.
Isn't the USA a secular state?
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By not putting up a fight they effectively went voluntarily to the camps. Millions of people were slaughtered during the war - up to 14million Russian civilians - but its because of the way the Jews were killed that makes it more abhorrent.
Isn't the USA a secular state?
Yeah, I guess Anne Frank should have drop kicked those Nazis.
The USA is a country with a secular government but primarily a Christian country.
I suspected it but wasn't sure but by this last post of yours at least now I know you are not very educated and also a moron. By the same thinking if you don't resist an arrest you are voluntarily going to jail.
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Yeah, I guess Anne Frank should have drop kicked those Nazis.
The USA is a country with a secular government but primarily a Christian country.
I suspected it but wasn't sure but by this last post of yours at least now I know you are not very educated and also a moron. By the same thinking if you don't resist an arrest you are voluntarily going to jail.
Do you attend a synagogue, church or mosque?
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Actually, by announcing that you are bi-sexual everyone here has some idea what you've done sexually. It's a fair assumption but not really interesting.
And I do use the term "homo" as short for homosexual, just like I use "bi" for bisexual and "hetero" for "all the way hetero."
And I'm not making you seem uptight. You seemed to take umbrage to the paraphrased term "all the way hetero." Why even give that a second thought? But I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't catch the Pumping Iron reference. I didn't notice at the time that you are new here.
Now relax and suck a cock or eat a clam -- whatever you're in the mood for.
-think we just got off on the wrong foot. You seem like a cool enough dude. I didn't make a connection to Pumping Iron; my mistake. Didn't mean to be antagonistic.
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Like I said before, just messing with a newb. Others here are worse. Way worse. We'll kiss an make up -- just no tongue.
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Do you attend a synagogue, church or mosque?
yes, every sunday.
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Like I said before, just messing with a newb. Others here are worse. Way worse. We'll kiss an make up -- just no tongue.
LOL, penisless, are you still beating up no0bs and blaming it on other people? hahaha ;D
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LOL, penisless, are you still beating up no0bs and blaming it on other people? hahaha ;D
I still bear the emotional scars inflicted by you and Pandae.