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Title: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: Ex Coelis on August 04, 2010, 07:05:40 PM
Kai has ridiculous thickness but Jay has wider shoulders

it will be close at the Olympia
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: Ex Coelis on August 04, 2010, 07:11:12 PM
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Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: Wiggs on August 04, 2010, 07:11:30 PM
Correct it will all come down to conditioning.
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: ThaRealist on August 04, 2010, 07:13:20 PM
I think Kai has done more homoerotic poses and effects his placing...Maybe good or bad
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Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on August 04, 2010, 07:13:26 PM
well, jay's LEFT side is defiantly up to par with kai's
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: Ex Coelis on August 04, 2010, 07:15:19 PM
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Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: brent2741 on August 04, 2010, 07:38:34 PM
kai has yet to bring the conditioning that jay did last year, until he proves that he can then its jay's to lose
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: Wiggs on August 04, 2010, 07:40:58 PM
kai has yet to bring the conditioning that jay did last year, until he proves that he can then its jay's to lose

2009 Arnold.  Kai usually kills Jay in conditioning with all this muscle he's added he has yet to bring in the old conditioning with the new muscle.
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: lesaucer on August 04, 2010, 07:41:41 PM
jay will win because now jay knows how to get SHRRRREDDDED
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: Ex Coelis on August 04, 2010, 07:46:57 PM
Kai has only been off twice in recent memory - the 2010 Arnold which he still won and the 2009 Olympia

probably his best conditioning was the 2008 NY Pro which was also arguably his best overall physique

this weekend at the DJC we'll see if he's ahead or behind in his prep
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: brent2741 on August 04, 2010, 07:47:49 PM
2009 Arnold.  Kai usually kills Jay in conditioning with all this muscle he's added he has yet to bring in the old conditioning with the new muscle.
jay set a new standard with his size and condition last year that kai wont be able to match, kai's playing the size game where as jay knows better that conditioning is the more important factor
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: 225for70 on August 04, 2010, 07:48:55 PM
kai looks as big as ronnie offseason
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Post by: _bruce_ on August 05, 2010, 01:22:59 AM
kai looks as big as ronnie offseason

The real face of muscle building  :D
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: disco_stu on August 05, 2010, 02:24:23 AM
these two guys..the real face of modern bodyduilding...

yes, the epitome of perfection.

the pursuit of balance, symmetry and physiques of the gods.

what a fuckn joke.

how can these two physiques be judged as the benchmark?...really?!
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on August 05, 2010, 02:52:27 AM
these two guys..the real face of modern bodyduilding...

yes, the epitome of perfection.

the pursuit of balance, symmetry and physiques of the gods.

what a fuckn joke.

how can these two physiques be judged as the benchmark?...really?!

Gross indeed.
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: wes on August 05, 2010, 03:25:20 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=344604.0;attach=379353;image)

(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm256/sdianems/kewpie-doll.jpg)
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: Croatch on August 05, 2010, 03:37:31 AM
kai looks as big as ronnie offseason
That had me laughing for a good minute.
Nice one.
Work on the photoshop skills though.  That left side is straight.
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: MORTALCOIL on August 05, 2010, 04:08:24 AM
Jay knows there's a limit to how big he can show up with a certain type of conditioning such as last year. He well do the exact same thing and won't take any chances. His symmetry problems are less apparent then by the past but still are noticeable. Kai has better proportions thought the midsection starts really to look bad. Since the 09 AC, he hasn't showed up with the kind of conditioning he needs to win the O. That's the key: achieve his old conditioning with the new mass. Heath did at the AC but still potentially not as good as Kai. Kai hasn't done it 'til now. If he nails his conditioning without losing too much size, he will be better than Jay (doesn't mean they will give it to him though). . Right, I'd tink Jay still has the edge.
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: affeman on August 05, 2010, 04:14:56 AM
kai looks as big as ronnie offseason

Kai has surpassed Ronnie a long time ago. Coleman was never close to that denistiy, thickness and pd for pd size.
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: kevcat on August 05, 2010, 04:41:59 AM
Dont talk shit, Kai is nowhere near what Ronnie had
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: G_Thang on August 05, 2010, 04:59:10 AM
Kai has surpassed Ronnie a long time ago. Coleman was never close to that denistiy, thickness and pd for pd size.

 ???

even ultimate kai schmoe, wiggs, wouldnt make this absurd comment.
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: brent2741 on August 05, 2010, 05:54:31 AM
Kai has surpassed Ronnie a long time ago. Coleman was never close to that denistiy, thickness and pd for pd size.
you sir are......... an idiot
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: jaejonna on August 05, 2010, 06:10:53 AM
Kai has surpassed Ronnie a long time ago. Coleman was never close to that denistiy, thickness and pd for pd size.
ohhhh brother ... ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: Ex Coelis on August 05, 2010, 06:32:53 AM
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Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: HTexan on August 05, 2010, 06:38:20 AM
Kai is better the jay in those pics.
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: TRIX on August 05, 2010, 06:40:09 AM
Kai 294 lbs

(http://c0013444.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/x2_233eeb8)
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: MORTALCOIL on August 05, 2010, 06:45:12 AM
Kai 294 lbs

(http://c0013444.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/x2_233eeb8)

When was this pic taken? That's scary freaky.
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: affeman on August 05, 2010, 06:47:52 AM
Kai 294 lbs

(http://c0013444.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/x2_233eeb8)

INSANE!!! :o

No matter how many gimmicks u pull out in this thread Hulkster, Coleman has never been close to that conditioning at 294.
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: brent2741 on August 05, 2010, 07:57:19 AM
INSANE!!! :o

No matter how many gimmicks u pull out in this thread Hulkster, Coleman has never been close to that conditioning at 294.
u must be brand new to bodybuilding then, because ronnie was bigger and better on-season or off
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: MORTALCOIL on August 05, 2010, 08:06:35 AM
u must be brand new to bodybuilding then, because ronnie was bigger and better on-season or off

The thing is that this is just a pic so that's not a valuable piece of evidence. Moreover it's only upper body, no back shots, no thighs (but everybody knows that Kai has a good back and good legs). If I judge just by this (which I shouldn't), I'd guess he's around 300lbs and never did Ronnie look like that at that weight or at least I don't recall that. Maybe 2003 but that vascularity, not sure. Kai's maybe hiding an ugly gut on that pose also.
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: brent2741 on August 05, 2010, 08:12:52 AM
The thing is that this is just a pic so that's not a valuable piece of evidence. Moreover it's only upper body, no back shots, no thighs (but everybody knows that Kai has a good back and good legs). If I judge just by this (which I shouldn't), I'd guess he's around 300lbs and never did Ronnie look like that at that weight or at least I don't recall that. Maybe 2003 but that vascularity, not sure. Kai's maybe hiding an ugly gut on that pose also.
i just dont agree but hey bb'ing is subjective not objective
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: MORTALCOIL on August 05, 2010, 08:18:55 AM


There's room for discussion, I'll say. But at a higher weight, Ronnie's conditioning really wasn't that fantastic.
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: affeman on August 05, 2010, 08:35:02 AM


There's room for discussion, I'll say. But at a higher weight, Ronnie's conditioning really wasn't that fantastic.

In 04 Ronnie looked like a pregnant water buffalo. Kai is better conditioned on that 8 week out pic above than Ronnie was on stage.

And don't get me wrong, I'm no guy, I'm not even a fan of Kai. I'm just stating the obvious, that this man has brought muscularity to the next level.
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: Ex Coelis on August 05, 2010, 08:57:41 AM
also consider that Kai is 2-3 inches shorter
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: 225for70 on August 05, 2010, 09:10:12 AM
In 04 Ronnie looked like a pregnant water buffalo. Kai is better conditioned on that 8 week out pic above than Ronnie was on stage.

And don't get me wrong, I'm no guy, I'm not even a fan of Kai. I'm just stating the obvious, that this man has brought muscularity to the next level.

I don't agree..

I don't think Kai is in the same league as Ronnie..
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: Stavios on August 05, 2010, 09:13:28 AM
It's between Kai and Phil IMO

Maybe Vic, he is keeping it low this year wich can be a very bad thing or a very good thing.


Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: MORTALCOIL on August 05, 2010, 09:15:43 AM
It's between Kai and Phil IMO if Jay shows up as conditioned as a sea elephant

Maybe Vic, he is keeping it low this year wich can be a very bad thing or a very good thing.




That's fixed
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: 240 is Back on August 05, 2010, 09:16:00 AM
i'm sure we'll be talking in the coming weeks (from Jay guest posing photos) about how he's just a *little* behind in his prep.

Then, he'll have some silly hamstring injury which will force him out, setting the stage for him to outright win the Arnold and another classic showdown with new O champ Kai or Phil next fall...

(Just the silly musings of a fool, I know, but ya never know...)
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 05, 2010, 09:16:40 AM
Kai and his luchedore masks are just an embarassment to an already gay enough sport.
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: Ex Coelis on August 05, 2010, 09:19:50 AM
Kai and his luchedore masks are just an embarassment to an already gay enough sport.

is this better?
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: kyomu on August 05, 2010, 09:41:16 AM
Judging from those pics, Kai looks better.
But lets see it.
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: che on August 05, 2010, 09:42:35 AM
Judging from those pics, Kai looks better.
But lets see it.

How's the wife doing Kyomu ?
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: kyomu on August 05, 2010, 09:45:31 AM
How's the wife doing Kyomu ?
Good.
And your wife? Enjoying the off season food? ;)
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: che on August 05, 2010, 09:48:48 AM
Good.
And your wife? Enjoying the off season food? ;)
Cool
Yeah she is getting fat  :)
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: kyomu on August 05, 2010, 10:24:31 AM
Cool
Yeah she is getting fat  healthy and attractive :)
fixed ;)
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 05, 2010, 10:33:37 AM
I don't think kai will beat jay or phil appart from the fact that he pulls all these gay antics... I find his physique to be "boxy" short torso lacking traps...
His torso looks like a square in some poses
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: James Blunt on August 05, 2010, 10:41:56 AM
Comparing Kai Greene to Ronnie Coleman.... lol GTFO

In case you forgot who he is....

(http://axon.blogg.se/images/2009/ronnie_coleman_photo340_29818577.jpg)
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: Wiggs on August 05, 2010, 10:44:43 AM
I don't think kai will beat jay or phil appart from the fact that he pulls all these gay antics... I find his physique to be "boxy" short torso lacking traps...
His torso looks like a square in some poses

He's making a habit of beating Phil as he beat him at last year's O and this year's Arnold.  Short torso and long limbs win Os...As Ronnie and Yates...
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: ThaRealist on August 05, 2010, 10:47:31 AM
Comparing Kai Greene to Ronnie Coleman.... lol GTFO

In case you forgot who he is....

(http://axon.blogg.se/images/2009/ronnie_coleman_photo340_29818577.jpg)

If you took this pic of Ronnie and went back in time and showed it to the competators of the 74' Olympia and told them this is a real person and he will be Mr. O one day they would have never believed it to be a real person
Title: Re: JAY vs KAI - Offseason Mass
Post by: funk51 on August 05, 2010, 11:15:12 AM
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[ take a dump pose number one pose of all time. well done.