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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: TRIX on August 05, 2010, 12:44:40 AM
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its like deja vu all over - another bodybuilder who was huge now nothing (compared to his former self)
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/53/images/Art_Atwood_79.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rDNyQdDXib8/SdNuiNqY1bI/AAAAAAAAEjI/tP5rDWAkizY/s400/art_atwood2.jpg)
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(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/lolartartoodshrunk.jpg)
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Looks way better.
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Looks way better.
agreed
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He would probably be dead by now if he kept up the way he was going, too bad he's a snitch.
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that landscaper next to him looks exactly like this mex i knew in high school. if i didn't see him at a wedding a few weeks ago, i would've sworn it was him on steroids.
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Cmon, that's no where near the size difference we've seen with other guys-Prince and Federov..He's still better than 99% of the guys in any gym basically everywhere, I would say.
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He was the poster boy for everything wrong in Bbing (awful structure, GH gut, ugly, balding, etc...). Now somehow looks decent.
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Again, for the 1000th time....
No athlete in any sport is immune from father time, nor do they keep the same regimine of training, eating...and yes, even drugs. There is no good reason to carry around 300 lbs if you're not competing, or eating 8 meals a day, or throwing around ridiculous weights in the gym.
Much like I dont carry the size I used to, train 3-4 times a week at best, or consume the calories of a competitor...cardio and maintainence have moved up on the depth chart...add to the fact that many have families to support and have moved their priorities into that direction...
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........ they are not 'athletes' ..they are drug users......and when you compare what real athletes like football players and basketball players look like after their competitive career the fall off is significantly lesser than that of a 'bodybuilder'... ie: Herschel Walker or any basketball player in the NBA ....there is not sport in injecting steroids ....
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........ they are not 'athletes' ..they are drug users......and when you compare what real athletes like football players and basketball players look like after their competitive career the fall off is significantly lesser than that of a 'bodybuilder'... ie: Herschel Walker or any basketball player in the NBA ....there is not sport in injecting steroids ....
They fall off "lesser", as they arent extreme to begin with...ratio is the same.
If there is no sport in injecting steroids, then there is no sport in todays world...
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its like deja vu all over - another bodybuilder who was huge now nothing (compared to his former self)
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/53/images/Art_Atwood_79.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rDNyQdDXib8/SdNuiNqY1bI/AAAAAAAAEjI/tP5rDWAkizY/s400/art_atwood2.jpg)
now
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/lolartartoodshrunk.jpg)
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Hes still bigger than you
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Cmon, that's no where near the size difference we've seen with other guys-Prince and Federov..He's still better than 99% of the guys in any gym basically everywhere, I would say.
True, but this is still a big come down. Would be interesting to see him shirtless for a fair comparison, but there is no denying that a lot of juice was keeping his ship afloat. :-\
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He would probably be dead by now if he kept up the way he was going, too bad he's a snitch.
How did he rat on?
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How did he rat on?
Two sentenced for roles in steroids ring run by Plano bodybuilder David Jacob
By JASON TRAHAN / The Dallas Morning News September 5, 2008
SHERMAN – A federal judge sentenced two amateur bodybuilders involved in the Plano steroids trafficking conspiracy to three years probation today and postponed final judgment on the third and final defendant until next month.
Brandon Mark Smith, who lives in the Dallas area, and Jamie Mongeau, of Wichita, Kan., both received three years probation and $2,000 fines for their roles in the steroid network run by David Jacobs.
Mr. Jacobs killed himself and his former girlfriend in early June shortly after the same judge – U.S. District Judge Richard Schell – sentenced him to three years probation.
After he was arrested last year, Mr. Jacobs cooperated both with federal investigators and the National Football League in answering questions about his network – which spanned to China – and his dealings with two ex-Dallas Cowboys.
After meeting before court this morning with Assistant U.S. Attorney Andrew Williams and defense attorney Kent Schaffer, Judge Schell announced that he was postponing sentencing for the final defendant, Houston bodybuilder and personal trainer Juan Carlos Ballivian, until Oct. 15. No explanation was given.
During their sentencing hearings, both Mr. Smith and Mr. Mongeau told Judge Schell that their time spent on the amateur bodybuilding circuit led to their steroid use.
"I felt like I did what I had to do," Mr. Smith said. "Any person you see on stage in those competitions, even [California] governor [Arnold] Schwarzenegger, you can’t get to that size naturally. There’s not one of those people up there who doesn’t take performance enhancing drugs. I got wrapped up in the sport."
"You need to find something else to do," Judge Schell told him. Mr. Smith agreed.
Mr. Mongeau told Judge Schell that steroids caused him to develop high blood pressure and high cholesterol.
"I had to do it to be competitive in the sport," he told the judge. "I've taken responsibility for what I've done. I'll never go that way again."
Six defendants have pleaded guilty to conspiring with Mr. Jacobs, a Plano personal trainer and bodybuilder, to distribute steroids in what has been described as one of the largest steroid and human growth hormone operations in the country.
Mr. Jacobs pleaded guilty to conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute and dispense anabolic steroids, a controlled substance. He was sentenced in May to three years probation for importing raw steroid powder from China and manufacturing substances that then went to NFL players, professional bodybuilders and police officers.
Earlier this year, Judge Schell sentenced co-defendants Amber Jarrell, Andrew William Schenck, and Matthew Blake Williams each to three years probation and imposed fines on all of them.
The network unraveled when a leaking package of steroids sent from Mr. Jacobs to Mr. Mongeau was intercepted in March 2007. Authorities arrested Mr. Mongeau, who admitted Mr. Jacobs was his supplier.
According to a federal court affidavit, investigators in May 2007 were tipped that Mr. Smith was involved in the network and found empty steroid vials when going through his trash. They served a search warrant at his house and found more steroids and nearly $3,000 in cash.
Mr. Smith admitted dealing steroids with Art Atwood, a professional bodybuilder in Plano who was charged in a separate case. Mr. Atwood and Mr. Jacobs were longtime friends and previously made and sold steroids together. Mr. Atwood has pleaded guilty to trafficking steroids and is awaiting sentencing.
Mr. Ballivian was a Houston connection for Mr. Jacobs network.
Mr. Jacobs made headlines when he publicly named ex-Dallas Cowboys Matt Lehr and Ryan Fowler as his former clients. Both football players have denied any wrongdoing and neither is facing criminal charges.
Soon after Mr. Jacobs and his former girlfriend Amanda Jo Earhart-Savell were found dead in Plano on June 5, the NFL sent a letter to Mr. Fowler telling him he faces suspension for violation of the league's anabolic steroid policy. According to his attorney, the letter said there was credible evidence that Mr. Fowler "purchased, used or supplied" banned substances.
Three weeks ago, Mr. Fowler told reporters in Tennessee that he assumes the inquiry is over, as he has heard no more from the league.
Mr. Lehr’s attorney, Paul Coggins, has said his client has not been contacted by the league. Mr. Coggins has said Mr. Lehr has remained clean since testing positive for banned substances in 2006. Mr. Lehr plays for the New Orleans Saints.
Officials with the Drug Enforcement Administration and the Food and Drug Administration’s Office of Criminal Investigations, which led the Plano steroids inquiry, declined to discuss the case this week. The case is still ongoing, officials said.
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All pro athletes take performance enhancing drugs. BBers just take it to the extreme. ;D
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Well still looks quite big for me.
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........ they are not 'athletes' ..they are drug users......and when you compare what real athletes like football players and basketball players look like after their competitive career the fall off is significantly lesser than that of a 'bodybuilder'... ie: Herschel Walker or any basketball player in the NBA ....there is not sport in injecting steroids ....
Apparently, you've never seen Charles Barkley or Howie Long.
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Bet he's still 220 or 230 and looks in good shape, look huge to the normal person.
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its like deja vu all over - another bodybuilder who was huge now nothing (compared to his former self)
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/53/images/Art_Atwood_79.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rDNyQdDXib8/SdNuiNqY1bI/AAAAAAAAEjI/tP5rDWAkizY/s400/art_atwood2.jpg)
now
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/lolartartoodshrunk.jpg)
Trix.....you are something else my friend......I thought Art was going to weigh 200 pounds or something......bro...... the guy is still large.....look at his delts.....
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Apparently, you've never seen Charles Barkley or Howie Long.
I seen Howie Long in the Detroit airport a year or 2 ago and he is still a really big guy
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All the way big but as said bad structure and huge torso.
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He's still big and looks to be possibly "on". Looks better.
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........ they are not 'athletes' ..they are drug users......
I remember you gaining 30lbs a couple of years back and getting much more full and cut only to loose all the size and cuts half a year later. WHat brand of creatine was that?
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I spoke with Art this past weekend. Def not the mass monster he used to be but still very big by normal people standards.
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its like deja vu all over - another bodybuilder who was huge now nothing (compared to his former self)
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/53/images/Art_Atwood_79.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rDNyQdDXib8/SdNuiNqY1bI/AAAAAAAAEjI/tP5rDWAkizY/s400/art_atwood2.jpg)
now
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/lolartartoodshrunk.jpg)
say it ain't so joe, yet another mass monster gone to seed.
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say it ain't so joe, yet another mass monster gone to seed.
Did you really think he was going to be nearly 300 lbs forever?
Besides, anybody who saw how he looks now (without see how he looked in his competitive prime) would say he's a big guy.
That's like saying Brock Lesnar's a shrimp, because he doesn't have the all the mass he did during his WWE days.
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Again, for the 1000th time....
No athlete in any sport is immune from father time, nor do they keep the same regimine of training, eating...and yes, even drugs. There is no good reason to carry around 300 lbs if you're not competing, or eating 8 meals a day, or throwing around ridiculous weights in the gym.
Much like I dont carry the size I used to, train 3-4 times a week at best, or consume the calories of a competitor...cardio and maintainence have moved up on the depth chart...add to the fact that many have families to support and have moved their priorities into that direction...
If only someone would email this post to Ronnie Coleman. It may save his life. Ronnie needs a intervention pronto.
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He's still big and looks to be possibly "on". Looks better.
LOLZ, "POSSIBLY" on...............you must not know art atwood, or anything about life in general ::) ::)
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looks pretty huge to me
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sport
Haha
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He's still big and looks to be possibly "on". Looks better.
Keanu, there is no "off". Only "on".
He looks great though. He should just keep sticking to a VERY generous HRT regimen, train folks and make a modest career in the industry. Its much better than killing yourself for a trophy and virtually no prize money. I'm sure he didn't even break even after any of the comps he's competed in.
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LOLZ, "POSSIBLY" on...............you must not know art atwood, or anything about life in general ::) ::)
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Keanu, there is no "off". Only "on".
He looks great though. He should just keep sticking to a VERY generous HRT regimen, train folks and make a modest career in the industry. Its much better than killing yourself for a trophy and virtually no prize money. I'm sure he didn't even break even after any of the comps he's competed in.
When he was big his size was impressive but his contest history is not very impressive. :-[
http://musclememory.com/show.php?s=atwood&g=M
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He's still big and looks to be possibly "on". Looks better.
LOL .
Its called lowering of dose.
At that level you pull out the doses that got you there and you will shrink , cruise or lower doses wont hold the lean mass that the big doses gave you.
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Chic is right, you have to be a delusional idiot who can't let go of the past to stay huge after your are finished computing. In other words, you have to be like Nasser.
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Chic is right,
There is something you don't hear everyday
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Chic is right, you have to be a delusional idiot who can't let go of the past to stay huge after your are finished computing. In other words, you have to be like Nasser.
is chic still competing because he looks on to me. more than hrt..just my opinion.
don't get mad bob. if you aren't on larger doses than i am giving you a compliment
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He would probably be dead by now if he kept up the way he was going
Good point.
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Good point.
You're replying to a 5 year old thread newbie.
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You're replying to a 5 year old thread newbie.
I was trying to show the board the consequences of long-term gear usage and being 300+ for decades. :-X
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I was trying to show the board the consequences of long-term gear usage and being 300+ for decades. :-X
Thanks ::)
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its like deja vu all over - another bodybuilder who was huge now nothing (compared to his former self)
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/53/images/Art_Atwood_79.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rDNyQdDXib8/SdNuiNqY1bI/AAAAAAAAEjI/tP5rDWAkizY/s400/art_atwood2.jpg)
now
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/lolartartoodshrunk.jpg)
He's still on drugs in the pic fyi
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Thanks ::)
Read the post I quoted and my reply. ::)
Even sort of getting off gear didn't save Art.
The current crop of guys seem to have death wishes. Maybe they don't want to live to 50.
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Two sentenced for roles in steroids ring run by Plano bodybuilder David Jacob
By JASON TRAHAN / The Dallas Morning News September 5, 2008
SHERMAN – A federal judge sentenced two amateur bodybuilders involved in the Plano steroids trafficking conspiracy to three years probation today and postponed final judgment on the third and final defendant until next month.
Brandon Mark Smith, who lives in the Dallas area, and Jamie Mongeau, of Wichita, Kan., both received three years probation and $2,000 fines for their roles in the steroid network run by David Jacobs.
Mr. Jacobs killed himself and his former girlfriend in early June shortly after the same judge – U.S. District Judge Richard Schell – sentenced him to three years probation.
After he was arrested last year, Mr. Jacobs cooperated both with federal investigators and the National Football League in answering questions about his network – which spanned to China – and his dealings with two ex-Dallas Cowboys.
After meeting before court this morning with Assistant U.S. Attorney Andrew Williams and defense attorney Kent Schaffer, Judge Schell announced that he was postponing sentencing for the final defendant, Houston bodybuilder and personal trainer Juan Carlos Ballivian, until Oct. 15. No explanation was given.
During their sentencing hearings, both Mr. Smith and Mr. Mongeau told Judge Schell that their time spent on the amateur bodybuilding circuit led to their steroid use.
"I felt like I did what I had to do," Mr. Smith said. "Any person you see on stage in those competitions, even [California] governor [Arnold] Schwarzenegger, you can’t get to that size naturally. There’s not one of those people up there who doesn’t take performance enhancing drugs. I got wrapped up in the sport."
"You need to find something else to do," Judge Schell told him. Mr. Smith agreed.
Mr. Mongeau told Judge Schell that steroids caused him to develop high blood pressure and high cholesterol.
"I had to do it to be competitive in the sport," he told the judge. "I've taken responsibility for what I've done. I'll never go that way again."
Six defendants have pleaded guilty to conspiring with Mr. Jacobs, a Plano personal trainer and bodybuilder, to distribute steroids in what has been described as one of the largest steroid and human growth hormone operations in the country.
Mr. Jacobs pleaded guilty to conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute and dispense anabolic steroids, a controlled substance. He was sentenced in May to three years probation for importing raw steroid powder from China and manufacturing substances that then went to NFL players, professional bodybuilders and police officers.
Earlier this year, Judge Schell sentenced co-defendants Amber Jarrell, Andrew William Schenck, and Matthew Blake Williams each to three years probation and imposed fines on all of them.
The network unraveled when a leaking package of steroids sent from Mr. Jacobs to Mr. Mongeau was intercepted in March 2007. Authorities arrested Mr. Mongeau, who admitted Mr. Jacobs was his supplier.
According to a federal court affidavit, investigators in May 2007 were tipped that Mr. Smith was involved in the network and found empty steroid vials when going through his trash. They served a search warrant at his house and found more steroids and nearly $3,000 in cash.
Mr. Smith admitted dealing steroids with Art Atwood, a professional bodybuilder in Plano who was charged in a separate case. Mr. Atwood and Mr. Jacobs were longtime friends and previously made and sold steroids together. Mr. Atwood has pleaded guilty to trafficking steroids and is awaiting sentencing.
Mr. Ballivian was a Houston connection for Mr. Jacobs network.
Mr. Jacobs made headlines when he publicly named ex-Dallas Cowboys Matt Lehr and Ryan Fowler as his former clients. Both football players have denied any wrongdoing and neither is facing criminal charges.
Soon after Mr. Jacobs and his former girlfriend Amanda Jo Earhart-Savell were found dead in Plano on June 5, the NFL sent a letter to Mr. Fowler telling him he faces suspension for violation of the league's anabolic steroid policy. According to his attorney, the letter said there was credible evidence that Mr. Fowler "purchased, used or supplied" banned substances.
Three weeks ago, Mr. Fowler told reporters in Tennessee that he assumes the inquiry is over, as he has heard no more from the league.
Mr. Lehr’s attorney, Paul Coggins, has said his client has not been contacted by the league. Mr. Coggins has said Mr. Lehr has remained clean since testing positive for banned substances in 2006. Mr. Lehr plays for the New Orleans Saints.
Officials with the Drug Enforcement Administration and the Food and Drug Administration’s Office of Criminal Investigations, which led the Plano steroids inquiry, declined to discuss the case this week. The case is still ongoing, officials said.
I dont see where he ratted, but interesting article...no jail time for making and selling...atleast the judge isnt a total shit head
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Epic 5 year old thread return.
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Epic 5 year old thread return.
Agreed. Art died 4 years ago of a massive heart attack so he truly has shrunk even more in size. ;D
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Dude wasn't just on steroids, he was a major coke addict and other substances as well like most bbers
Too bad cause he was a pretty nice guy
I remember the story was he had a major heart attack and feel into the pool
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Exactly, same with Tom Prince. I mean, the Advil story is funny to joke about, but does anyone actually believe that? Saying he took a bottle a day. Cmon, they are anti-inflammatory, taking more of them doesn't really work better, but if it was something like vicodin or higher, there is very much incentive to gobble handfuls at a time, and of course there is still a lot of tylenol in those which is toxic at high/extended levels, not to mention the addiction monster itself.
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Exactly, same with Tom Prince. I mean, the Advil story is funny to joke about, but does anyone actually believe that? Saying he took a bottle a day. Cmon, they are anti-inflammatory, taking more of them doesn't really work better, but if it was something like vicodin or higher, there is very much incentive to gobble handfuls at a time, and of course there is still a lot of tylenol in those which is toxic at high/extended levels, not to mention the addiction monster itself.
Nubain.
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Agreed. Art died 4 years ago of a massive heart attack so he truly has shrunk even more in size. ;D
Yes he's probably very small now.
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(https://fantasisti.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/benjaminbutton-poster.jpg)
Benjamin was ripped
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Again, for the 1000th time....
No athlete in any sport is immune from father time, nor do they keep the same regimine of training, eating...and yes, even drugs. There is no good reason to carry around 300 lbs if you're not competing, or eating 8 meals a day, or throwing around ridiculous weights in the gym.
Much like I dont carry the size I used to, train 3-4 times a week at best, or consume the calories of a competitor...cardio and maintainence have moved up on the depth chart...add to the fact that many have families to support and have moved their priorities into that direction...
Amen brother, God bless.
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Dude wasn't just on steroids, he was a major coke addict and other substances as well like most bbers
Too bad cause he was a pretty nice guy
I remember the story was he had a major heart attack and feel into the pool
Is that true about Art using other substances? If so, it makes sense. Something had to give. I wonder to what extent he used cocaine, if that is true. Also, if he smoked or mainlined it. I have known people to consume a lot of it, and it makes me wonder how long they have to live. They are seemingly healthy now, but still quite young.
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Is that true about Art using other substances? If so, it makes sense. Something had to give. I wonder to what extent he used cocaine, if that is true. Also, if he smoked or mainlined it. I have known people to consume a lot of it, and it makes me wonder how long they have to live. They are seemingly healthy now, but still quite young.
These guys came up when GHB was over the counter, steroids were no scheduled for the majority of their careers, and couple that with the fact that to be at their level you absolutely must be a drug abuser (anabolics, diet drugs, etc, not necessarily "rec" drugs) then it makes it an easy leap to see how they get into pain meds and/or stimulants.
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These guys came up when GHB was over the counter, steroids were no scheduled for the majority of their careers, and couple that with the fact that to be at their level you absolutely must be a drug abuser (anabolics, diet drugs, etc, not necessarily "rec" drugs) then it makes it an easy leap to see how they get into pain meds and/or stimulants.
Amen, god bless.
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Is that true about Art using other substances? If so, it makes sense. Something had to give. I wonder to what extent he used cocaine, if that is true. Also, if he smoked or mainlined it. I have known people to consume a lot of it, and it makes me wonder how long they have to live. They are seemingly healthy now, but still quite young.
By wondering it makes you sound clueless...These guys are holding anywhere from 5 years to life in prison amount of drugs in their households at all time...Depending on whether they're a user or a seller...Not to mention the fact that a big thing in the late 70's and early 80's was using cocaine as a pre workout. These people are criminals, sometimes sophisticated criminals..But criminals nonetheless... Pinning things all day in schedule... Self blooding themselves... Lying to the publci...They're grown ass men..And if you can't put it past them to do some recreational drugs then you've got to be the most delusional human being ever
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These guys came up when GHB was over the counter, steroids were no scheduled for the majority of their careers, and couple that with the fact that to be at their level you absolutely must be a drug abuser (anabolics, diet drugs, etc, not necessarily "rec" drugs) then it makes it an easy leap to see how they get into pain meds and/or stimulants.
In Art's case it was also "rec" drugs. Dude was on everything. He was dealing in the parking lot of 24 hour fitness from the back of his Toyota Tundra. Hence how he got caught with a lab in his house and told on everyone is how he got off easy. It's too bad cause he was always a nice guy whenever I ran into him. No surprise when I heard he had died, guy was like most bbers, but he hustled harder and was always finding ways to make money
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I saw Art at the supermarket once. Walked around the end of the isle and came face to face with biggest BB I have ever seen. His size was shocking.
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I saw Art at the supermarket once. Walked around the end of the isle and came face to face with biggest BB I have ever seen. His size was shocking.
Then you got on your knees and kissed his ass.
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Then you got on your knees and ate his ass.
Your welcome.
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Your welcome.
touche lol
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These guys came up when GHB was over the counter, steroids were no scheduled for the majority of their careers, and couple that with the fact that to be at their level you absolutely must be a drug abuser (anabolics, diet drugs, etc, not necessarily "rec" drugs) then it makes it an easy leap to see how they get into pain meds and/or stimulants.
Great sport we have here.
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Then you got on your knees and kissed his ass.
Actually, I almost ran. All I wanted was some chicken breast.
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I remember watching the BFTO 2003 and thinking that Art must have some amazing genetics to be able to be so huge and still be healthy. I guess he never was healthy, if he had such a massive heart attack at a young age. It just makes me think that life is altogether too short - and tells me definitely not to take risks at that level.
Has it been verified that Art actually used coke? ???
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These guys came up when GHB was over the counter, steroids were no scheduled for the majority of their careers, and couple that with the fact that to be at their level you absolutely must be a drug abuser (anabolics, diet drugs, etc, not necessarily "rec" drugs) then it makes it an easy leap to see how they get into pain meds and/or stimulants.
Very good point. Question for other old farts: Am I imagining it, or do I actually recall an ad in one of the early 90s mags for GHB? With Duchaine in it?