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Building West-Muslim Bridges
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1265347988736&pagename=Zone-English-News/NWELayout#ixzz0vyOeGglM
By Mohammad Sabry IOL Staff
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"My purpose is to spread harmony and peace between the West and the Muslim world," Imam Abdul-Rauf told IOL.
CAIRO – Sitting firmly in his seat with a determined look in his eyes, American Imam Feisal Abdul-Rauf appears resolved to bridge the gap between the West and the Muslim world.
"My purpose is to spread harmony and peace between the West and the Muslim world," Imam Abdul-Rauf, chairman of the Cordoba Initiative, told IslamOnline.net in an exclusive interview.
"My role is to see how can my work help improve this relationship."
With that in mind, the American imam founded the Cordoba Initiative in 2003 to clear mutual mistrust.
"First (we seek) to identify the sources of conflict between the Muslim world and the West," he said.
"We have developed under this initiative a number of projects which we believe are effective in creating this discourse about these particular arenas," he said, citing projects in political, religious and cultural arenas.
"(They aim) to help reduce the conflict inshaAllah and solve it as well."
According to its website, the Cordoba Initiative aims to achieve a tipping point in Muslim-West relations within the next decade, steering the world back to the course of mutual recognition and respect and away from heightened tension.
Born in 1948, Imam Abdul-Rauf is a well-known figure in the field of West-Muslim relations.
In 1997, he founded the American Society for Muslim Advancement (ASMA), reportedly the first Muslim organization committed to bringing US Muslims and non-Muslims through programs in academia, policy, current affairs and culture.
An imam of Masjid al-Farah in New York, Abdul-Rauf also sits on the Board of Trustees of the Islamic Center of New York and serves as an adviser to the Interfaith Center of New York.
He authored three books on Islam and its place on contemporary Western society.
Support
Imam Abdul-Rauf is currently on a State Department-sponsored tour to build bridges.
"This is part of it as the work is huge and can't be done by one person or one organization," he said.
"It is also to share people like yourself the work that we do. We need people in the media and we need people to talk to understand what we do."
He defended the US government's support for his organization.
"If I don't have the ears of people in the political power, I would not engage in the issues of today," he said.
"So if you want to solve the problems, you have to have the anchor of each place.
"As an American citizen and as an American organization, we have to comply with American laws, not doubt. But unless I get involved in the big issues of today, we can't solve them."
Imam Abdul-Rauf does not think such relation with the US government could create suspicions about him or his initiative.
"My Cordoba Initiative is supported by both the West and the Muslim world," he insisted.
"My work has drawn the attention of governments of many countries," he said, naming Malaysia, Qatar, the Netherlands and Britain.
"We are looking to get the initiative like the United Nations. The UN has the support of all countries but to serve a common purpose of peace."
Protected Muslims
As part of his bridges-building efforts, Imam Abul-Rauf is championing a project to build an Islamic Center two blocks from Ground Zero in New York.
"We would like to have our center equipped with (state-of-the-art) technology," he added.
"We would like our center in some aspects to have this technology so we can display and show what Muslims today are doing in the common bonds of civilizations."
Imam Abdul-Rauf believes American Muslims are continually improving all the time and credits that to the system in America.
"This is the societal system of law, the principle of civil rights, the civil rights protection and the freedom of religions. These are things that are built in the legal American structure."
Many believe American Muslims, estimated at between six to seven million, have become sensitized to an erosion of their civil rights since 9/11.
Imam Abdul-Rauf does not seem to agree.
"The American legal structure and political structure is to ensure that these individual rights of the people are not breached or eroded.
"And because we enjoy these protections the situation of Muslim Americans are always improving."
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Every piece of shit democrat who voted for Obama and still supports him should hang.
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I will not let this thread get buried under Palin or Bush bashing by pofs leftists too embarassed to comment on this or who approve of this TREASON.
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Even the boy scouts now hate this dirtbag grifter. Remember - Obama, piss be upon him, snubbed the 100 yr anniversary to go chat it up with the hags on the View.
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Bump for Blacken, Chad, 240, KC, Hugo, mons, Straw, Danny, or any other kneepadding fag on this board still supporting this kenyan marxist.
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that mosque is going to get built so get the fuck over it, your like a 5 year old, your not always going to get your way and there are some things in life your not going to like.
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that mosque is going to get built so get the fuck over it, your like a 5 year old, your not always going to get your way and there are some things in life your not going to like.
So far no construction companies are willing to do the work and that is a huge thing going around. construction companies are signing petitions and pledges not to do work there.
And if they try to bring in outside contractors, the local unions will shut it down. I will be there as well as this is akin to the Westboro freaks protesting funerals of soldiers.
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Building West-Muslim Bridges
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1265347988736&pagename=Zone-English-News/NWELayout#ixzz0vyOeGglM
By Mohammad Sabry IOL Staff
________________________ ________________________ ___
"My purpose is to spread harmony and peace between the West and the Muslim world," Imam Abdul-Rauf told IOL.
CAIRO – Sitting firmly in his seat with a determined look in his eyes, American Imam Feisal Abdul-Rauf appears resolved to bridge the gap between the West and the Muslim world.
"My purpose is to spread harmony and peace between the West and the Muslim world," Imam Abdul-Rauf, chairman of the Cordoba Initiative, told IslamOnline.net in an exclusive interview.
"My role is to see how can my work help improve this relationship."
With that in mind, the American imam founded the Cordoba Initiative in 2003 to clear mutual mistrust.
"First (we seek) to identify the sources of conflict between the Muslim world and the West," he said.
"We have developed under this initiative a number of projects which we believe are effective in creating this discourse about these particular arenas," he said, citing projects in political, religious and cultural arenas.
"(They aim) to help reduce the conflict inshaAllah and solve it as well."
According to its website, the Cordoba Initiative aims to achieve a tipping point in Muslim-West relations within the next decade, steering the world back to the course of mutual recognition and respect and away from heightened tension.
Born in 1948, Imam Abdul-Rauf is a well-known figure in the field of West-Muslim relations.
In 1997, he founded the American Society for Muslim Advancement (ASMA), reportedly the first Muslim organization committed to bringing US Muslims and non-Muslims through programs in academia, policy, current affairs and culture.
An imam of Masjid al-Farah in New York, Abdul-Rauf also sits on the Board of Trustees of the Islamic Center of New York and serves as an adviser to the Interfaith Center of New York.
He authored three books on Islam and its place on contemporary Western society.
Support
Imam Abdul-Rauf is currently on a State Department-sponsored tour to build bridges.
"This is part of it as the work is huge and can't be done by one person or one organization," he said.
"It is also to share people like yourself the work that we do. We need people in the media and we need people to talk to understand what we do."
He defended the US government's support for his organization.
"If I don't have the ears of people in the political power, I would not engage in the issues of today," he said.
"So if you want to solve the problems, you have to have the anchor of each place.
"As an American citizen and as an American organization, we have to comply with American laws, not doubt. But unless I get involved in the big issues of today, we can't solve them."
Imam Abdul-Rauf does not think such relation with the US government could create suspicions about him or his initiative.
"My Cordoba Initiative is supported by both the West and the Muslim world," he insisted.
"My work has drawn the attention of governments of many countries," he said, naming Malaysia, Qatar, the Netherlands and Britain.
"We are looking to get the initiative like the United Nations. The UN has the support of all countries but to serve a common purpose of peace."
Protected Muslims
As part of his bridges-building efforts, Imam Abul-Rauf is championing a project to build an Islamic Center two blocks from Ground Zero in New York.
"We would like to have our center equipped with (state-of-the-art) technology," he added.
"We would like our center in some aspects to have this technology so we can display and show what Muslims today are doing in the common bonds of civilizations."
Imam Abdul-Rauf believes American Muslims are continually improving all the time and credits that to the system in America.
"This is the societal system of law, the principle of civil rights, the civil rights protection and the freedom of religions. These are things that are built in the legal American structure."
Many believe American Muslims, estimated at between six to seven million, have become sensitized to an erosion of their civil rights since 9/11.
Imam Abdul-Rauf does not seem to agree.
"The American legal structure and political structure is to ensure that these individual rights of the people are not breached or eroded.
"And because we enjoy these protections the situation of Muslim Americans are always improving."
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Every piece of shit democrat who voted for Obama and still supports him should hang.
America was attacked by a False Flag created by Bush/Cheney.......not Muslims. ::) ::) ::)
14 Box Cutters took down the WTC/Pentagon. ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Kill yourself.
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Imagine if we put up a shrine to the KKK at MLK's grave site?
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that mosque is going to get built so get the fuck over it, your like a 5 year old, your not always going to get your way and there are some things in life your not going to like.
Really now? It turns out that the "organization" building this mosque doesn't even own the entire building they think they're putting it in. This whole thing is fucking shady.
And it's not surprising that Obama is now championing this douche. He's the perfect candidate. Wants Sharia Law in America, refuses to denounce terrorism, is against interfaith dialogue and thinks that the mosque will help us non-Muslims to integrate. Sounds like a winner to me! ::)
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I freaking knew from Day 1 Obama was behind this.
Blacken & mons - are you proud of your POTUS now?
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a friend of mine just told me obama is a alien :D :D :D :D :D :D you guys are priceless
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a friend of mine just told me obama is a alien :D :D :D :D :D :D you guys are priceless
No, just a incompetent, kenyan, marxist.
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a friend of mine just told me obama is a alien :D :D :D :D :D :D you guys are priceless
Nice command of the English language you have there.
Stay in school, kids.
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The silence from 240, Straw, Hugo, Danny, et al on this is telling.
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The silence from 240, Straw, Hugo, Danny, et al on this is telling.
Let's see - the leftists on this site still consumed with bush, palin, 911 CT's, etc. ::) ::)
Obama expanding FBI internet powers w/o warrant - silence.
Funding the WTC IMAM - silence.
Sending IT jobs to Sir Lanka - silence.
Stim Bill failures - silence.
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Let's see - the leftists on this site still consumed with bush, palin, 911 CT's, etc. ::) ::)
Obama expanding FBI internet powers w/o warrant - silence.
Funding the WTC IMAM - silence.
Sending IT jobs to Sir Lanka - silence.
Stim Bill failures - silence.
;D
The good news is that they can tell you what Palin had for breakfast this morning, though!
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PDS still rules at DU, HP, 240's mind, and all the other sites in deep denial of what is going on.
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Where's the Liberal cries for seperation of church and state?
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Where's the Liberal cries for seperation of church and state?
Most leftists dont apply their own standards to Islam since they are scared shitless of the dull knife running across their puny necks.
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Building West-Muslim Bridges
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1265347988736&pagename=Zone-English-News/NWELayout#ixzz0vyOeGglM
By Mohammad Sabry IOL Staff
________________________ ________________________ ___
"My purpose is to spread harmony and peace between the West and the Muslim world," Imam Abdul-Rauf told IOL.
CAIRO – Sitting firmly in his seat with a determined look in his eyes, American Imam Feisal Abdul-Rauf appears resolved to bridge the gap between the West and the Muslim world.
"My purpose is to spread harmony and peace between the West and the Muslim world," Imam Abdul-Rauf, chairman of the Cordoba Initiative, told IslamOnline.net in an exclusive interview.
"My role is to see how can my work help improve this relationship."
With that in mind, the American imam founded the Cordoba Initiative in 2003 to clear mutual mistrust.
"First (we seek) to identify the sources of conflict between the Muslim world and the West," he said.
"We have developed under this initiative a number of projects which we believe are effective in creating this discourse about these particular arenas," he said, citing projects in political, religious and cultural arenas.
"(They aim) to help reduce the conflict inshaAllah and solve it as well."
According to its website, the Cordoba Initiative aims to achieve a tipping point in Muslim-West relations within the next decade, steering the world back to the course of mutual recognition and respect and away from heightened tension.
Born in 1948, Imam Abdul-Rauf is a well-known figure in the field of West-Muslim relations.
In 1997, he founded the American Society for Muslim Advancement (ASMA), reportedly the first Muslim organization committed to bringing US Muslims and non-Muslims through programs in academia, policy, current affairs and culture.
An imam of Masjid al-Farah in New York, Abdul-Rauf also sits on the Board of Trustees of the Islamic Center of New York and serves as an adviser to the Interfaith Center of New York.
He authored three books on Islam and its place on contemporary Western society.
Support
Imam Abdul-Rauf is currently on a State Department-sponsored tour to build bridges.
"This is part of it as the work is huge and can't be done by one person or one organization," he said.
"It is also to share people like yourself the work that we do. We need people in the media and we need people to talk to understand what we do."
He defended the US government's support for his organization.
"If I don't have the ears of people in the political power, I would not engage in the issues of today," he said.
"So if you want to solve the problems, you have to have the anchor of each place.
"As an American citizen and as an American organization, we have to comply with American laws, not doubt. But unless I get involved in the big issues of today, we can't solve them."
Imam Abdul-Rauf does not think such relation with the US government could create suspicions about him or his initiative.
"My Cordoba Initiative is supported by both the West and the Muslim world," he insisted.
"My work has drawn the attention of governments of many countries," he said, naming Malaysia, Qatar, the Netherlands and Britain.
"We are looking to get the initiative like the United Nations. The UN has the support of all countries but to serve a common purpose of peace."
Protected Muslims
As part of his bridges-building efforts, Imam Abul-Rauf is championing a project to build an Islamic Center two blocks from Ground Zero in New York.
"We would like to have our center equipped with (state-of-the-art) technology," he added.
"We would like our center in some aspects to have this technology so we can display and show what Muslims today are doing in the common bonds of civilizations."
Imam Abdul-Rauf believes American Muslims are continually improving all the time and credits that to the system in America.
"This is the societal system of law, the principle of civil rights, the civil rights protection and the freedom of religions. These are things that are built in the legal American structure."
Many believe American Muslims, estimated at between six to seven million, have become sensitized to an erosion of their civil rights since 9/11.
Imam Abdul-Rauf does not seem to agree.
"The American legal structure and political structure is to ensure that these individual rights of the people are not breached or eroded.
"And because we enjoy these protections the situation of Muslim Americans are always improving."
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Every piece of shit democrat who voted for Obama and still supports him should hang.
The construction industry needs work.....build it!!!
14 box cutters..... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Most leftists dont apply their own standards to Islam since they are scared shitless of the dull knife running across their puny necks.
Can't argue with that. I've said before that I think it's liberal fear.
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Its blood money to do work there.
Screw these vermin. I hope that whoever does the work there sabotoges the place so it crumbles or implodes on its own shortly after it opens.
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Its blood money to do work there.
Screw these vermin. I hope that whoever does the work there sabotoges the place so it crumbles or implodes on its own shortly after it opens.
Here's a good example of a liberal coward:
The construction industry needs work.....build it!!!
14 box cutters..... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Here's a good example of a liberal coward:
No, mons is just a deluded Oboma voting 911 CT'er still blaming Bush for everything, and now obsessed with Palin. The Palin hatred is beyond ridiculous. The woman is not an elected official, has no power to pass laws or spend tax dollars, yet blacken, 240, mons, et al are utterly obssessed with her, all in denial and ignorance of major stories like the economy, health care, etc.
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No, mons is just a deluded Oboma voting 911 CT'er still blaming Bush for everything, and now obsessed with Palin. The Palin hatred is beyond ridiculous. The woman is not an elected official, has no power to pass laws or spend tax dollars, yet blacken, 240, mons, et al are utterly obssessed with her, all in denial and ignorance of major stories like the economy, health care, etc.
14 box cutters evaded NORAD. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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No, mons is just a deluded Oboma voting 911 CT'er still blaming Bush for everything, and now obsessed with Palin. The Palin hatred is beyond ridiculous. The woman is not an elected official, has no power to pass laws or spend tax dollars, yet blacken, 240, mons, et al are utterly obssessed with her, all in denial and ignorance of major stories like the economy, health care, etc.
I think it might be a combination of poking fun at her (she does make it easy - and I don't think she gives a fuck) and the fact that she can generate money for the Republicans (making her somewhat of a threat in that sense).
240, on the other hand, just has a mad crush on her.
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14 box cutters imploded WTC # 7 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Its blood money to do work there.
Screw these vermin. I hope that whoever does the work there sabotoges the place so it crumbles or implodes on its own shortly after it opens.
As of right now, they can't do shit because they don't own the whole site (despite that snake Daisy Khan claiming they do). And any sale Con Ed makes is subject to review by the state. This mosque should be put on hold indefinitely until this shady shit is sorted out.
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Where are all the liberals screaming about separation of church and state over this?
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we can't pick and choose which religions can set up shop where.
ban them all, or allow them all, in this area. it's that simple.
you can't pick & choose when to apply the constitution.
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we can't pick and choose which religions can set up shop where.
ban them all, or allow them all, in this area. it's that simple.
you can't pick & choose when to apply the constitution.
Again what exactly are you referring to in the constitution?
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240 - i just showed how the govt is actively promoting the muslim religion, somehow you turn that into some bizarre notion that anyone has the right to erect a temple or mosque wherever they want, which is not the case.
again - are you ok with a floating shinto shrine dedicated to the Emporer in Pearl Harbor?
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of course the govt shouldn't be promoting ANY religion.
and while such a pearl harbor memorial would be disgusting to me - I'm afraid I don't believe in legislating what people can worship or memorialize.
I don't care if ppl read scat porn. I don't care if ppl worship satan. As long as you don't infringe upon my rights, who gives a shit. I'm more "Offended" by obama's happy senseless spending spree, than I am "offended" by some group that wants to put some church on some corner.
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of course the govt shouldn't be promoting ANY religion.
and while such a pearl harbor memorial would be disgusting to me - I'm afraid I don't believe in legislating what people can worship or memorialize.
I don't care if ppl read scat porn. I don't care if ppl worship satan. As long as you don't infringe upon my rights, who gives a shit. I'm more "Offended" by obama's happy senseless spending spree, than I am "offended" by some group that wants to put some church on some corner.
Its not some corner 240 - its a building where the landing gear of one of the planes hit that hit the WTC.
And thak you for the pearl harbor answer - case closed. You are utterly insane.
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Its not some corner 240 - its a building where the landing gear of one of the planes hit that hit the WTC.
And thak you for the pearl harbor answer - case closed. You are utterly insane.
I wouldn't like it. i'd like to spit or urinate upon such a thing.
But the constitiution allows it. I don't care what others do - as long as they don't infringe on my rights.
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I wouldn't like it. i'd like to spit or urinate upon such a thing.
But the constitiution allows it. I don't care what others do - as long as they don't infringe on my rights.
no its doesnt. Can you build a mosque in the middle of the street? How about on a lake or in a flood plain?
How about a mosque in the middle of the beat in Tampa Bay?
This is not a constitutional issue at all since no one is denying the right to worship or practice islam.
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Groundbreaking of NY Mosque to coincide with anniversaries of the September 11 attacks
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 9:21:15 PM by FoxPro
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordoba_House
A number of commentators said that the builders planned various construction milestones, such as groundbreaking and the start of construction, to coincide with anniversaries of the September 11 attacks
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/peter_worthington/2010/08/04/14926731.html
Incredibly, ground-breaking for the Ground Zero mosque is scheduled for Sept. 11 -- the anniversary of 9/11. Does it take much imagination to figure out how al-Jazeera and the militant Muslim world will greet that occurrence?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/26172
Incredibly, ground-breaking for the Ground Zero mosque is scheduled for Sept. 11 -- the anniversary of 9/11. Does it take much imagination to figure out how al-Jazeera and the militant Muslim world will greet that occurrence?
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Yeah 240 - this is about peacful religion. ::) ::) ::)
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I posted this well before it hit the news yesterday.
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Updated: Tue., Aug. 10, 2010, 6:31 AM Feds funding G. Zero imam's Mideast trip
By GEOFF EARLE in DC and BRENDAN SCOTT in Albany
www.nypost.com
Last Updated: 6:31 AM, August 10, 2010Posted: 3:19 AM, August 10, 2010
The imam behind a plan to build a mosque near Ground Zero is set to depart on a multi-country jaunt to the Middle East funded by the
State Department -- raising concerns that taxpayers may be helping him with the controversial project's $100 million fund-raising goal.
Feisal Abdul Rauf is taking the publicly funded trip to foster "greater understanding" about Islam and Muslim communities in the United States, the State Department confirmed yesterday.
"He is a distinguished Muslim cleric," said State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley, when asked about the journey, reportedly to include stops in Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Bahrain and Qatar.
"I think we are in the process of arranging for him to travel as part of this program, and it is to foster a greater understanding about the region around the world among Muslim-majority communities," he added.
Crowley said no fund-raising for the mosque and cultural center during the trip would be permitted. "That would not be something he could do as part of our program," he said.
Abdul Rauf said funds for the center will come from Muslims and members of his congregation.
But a London-based Arabic-language newspaper that interviewed Abdul Rauf reported that he says he also will collect money from Muslim and Arab nations around the world -- raising the possibility his goodwill mission could help him build contacts in oil-rich states.
"Does the State Department have any idea they are sending a guy to the Middle East who is going to be fund-raising perhaps among the very same people he will be meeting with?" asked Debra Burlingame, a 9/11 family member.
"We know he has a fund-raising association with Saudi Arabia," Burlingame said, noting that the Saudis have contributed money to underwrite programs by the American Society for Muslim Advancement, a not-for-profit that Abdul Rauf runs with his wife and that is one of the sponsors of the Ground Zero mosque. "He's going to the well, and how can they say they do or don't know what he's doing?"
Meanwhile, state regulators said the sale of an adjacent Con Ed building needed to complete the Ground Zero mosque -- as disclosed by The Post on Sunday -- might be subject to review after all, even as Mayor Bloomberg insisted the project has "nothing to do with Con Ed."
Public Service Commission spokeswoman Anne Dalton said state law requires the agency to sign off on the "transfer or lease" of any property a utility owns within its franchise area.
The question is whether Con Ed satisfied that requirement nearly four decades ago, when it granted a 99-year lease on the former substation site at 49-51 Park Place.
Additional reporting by Tom Topousis and Sally Goldenberg
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Update:
I just called my reps and wrote a scathing letter on this nonsense.
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that mosque is going to get built so get the fuck over it, your like a 5 year old, your not always going to get your way and there are some things in life your not going to like.
Good thing you weren't around during the American Revolution...."We can never defeat the British, so get the fuck over it"
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Good thing you weren't around during the American Revolution...."We can never defeat the British, so get the fuck over it"
Blacken would be giving the British the maps to where the minutemen held their arms and food if given the chance.
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its 2 blocks away get the fuck over it >:(
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its 2 blocks away get the fuck over it >:(
You don't live here dipshit. This building was hit with the landing gear from one of the planes.
I'm not getting over anything. In fact, the local population is getting utterly pissed off with these communist left you support and there is going to be violence if they keep it up.
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i live in the U.S. ???
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i live in the U.S. ???
You do not live in N.Y. in eye shot of this place, you dont work here, you don't know people who died, you don't see that gaping hole in the ground every week, etc etc.
Would you support a Shinto Shrine to the Emporer of Japan floating in Pearl Harbor?
How about a shrine to the KKK at MLK's gravesite?
And why should taxpayers have to pay for this garbage? What about separation of church and state? The communist left, of which you are a part and support, are now silent on this, figures.
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so according to your theory the closer you live the more say you have over the subject.
Manhattan voters support plans for mosque near Ground Zero. so i guess there building it
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so according to your theory the closer you live the more say you have over the subject.
Manhattan voters support plans for mosque near Ground Zero. so i guess there building it
Right - its ovewhelming against it. and guess what, the minute they try to build this, there will be sabotage etc. And yes, I still hold to my comment about the plane and the mountain as well as the natural disaster hitting DC now that we know Obama is funding this Imam.
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so according to your theory the closer you live the more say you have over the subject.
Manhattan voters support plans for mosque near Ground Zero. so i guess there building it
What world do you live in? Every poll I've seen has shown that people are against this mosque by at least a 2:1 margin. Shut the fuck up and stop fabricating statistics, retard. And learn proper grammar and punctuation while you're at it.
Starting to understand why you are incapable of posting a coherent thought and spam us with youtube videos. You're completely brain-dead.
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The Quinnipiac University poll, released Thursday morning, found that 46 percent of Manhattanites support the 13-story mosque and community center, called Cordoba House. Thirty-six percent of Manhattan voters oppose the proposal
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The Quinnipiac University poll, released Thursday morning, found that 46 percent of Manhattanites support the 13-story mosque and community center, called Cordoba House. Thirty-six percent of Manhattan voters oppose the proposal
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46%! Wow. That's still not a majority, you stupid fuck. And I've seen dozens of polls showing 2:1 margins, including a CNN one with hundreds of thousands votes.
Move along.
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Updated: Tue., Aug. 10, 2010, 8:35 AM
An odd envoy
www.nypost.com
Last Updated: 8:35 AM, August 10, 2010
Posted: 12:36 AM, August 10, 2010
It's not sufficiently divisive, apparently, that a controversial imam wants to erect a mosque near Ground Zero; now the Obama folks have him conducting "outreach" to Arab countries on behalf of the United States -- and on the taxpayers' dime, no less.
Can anything be more ill-considered?
As Claudia Rosett first reported at
Forbes.com, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is headed to the Arab world for a month-long "outreach" tour, courtesy of the State Department. His wife, Daisy Khan, is to make a similar trip.
Just what they'll be doing -- their scheduled stops include Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Bahrain and Qatar -- remains a bit of a mystery.
A State Department aide yesterday told The Post that Rauf's mission is "to foster a greater understanding about the region around the world among Muslim majority communities."
Whatever that means.
To be sure, Rauf and Khan have their backers. The State Department hails him as "a distinguished Muslim cleric." But are they truly America's best envoys to a region rife with Islamic extremism -- given, say, Rauf's refusal to label Hamas a terror group or his onetime claim that US policies contributed to 9/11?
The trip could also help Rauf drum up some dubious cash for the mosque. After all, he told an Arabic newspaper that he plans to raise funds from Saudi Arabia and other Mideast nations.
Khan says neither of them will do any "fund-raising," and the State Department says such activity would be barred.
But as Rosett notes, "fund-raising, especially in the bargaining halls of the Middle East," often "begins with drinking tea, rubbing shoulders and moseying towards the eventual deal."
Meanwhile, families of 9/11 victims and others continue to see a mosque near Ground Zero as needless provocation. And Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, to his credit, yesterday defended them: "Disagreement is one of the fundamental principles of our country," he said.
Given such disagreement, it's a wonder how Rauf can manage to foster greater "understanding" -- and what, exactly, Obama & Co. could be thinking.
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Yet, it GWB was sending Jimmy Falwell across the world on taxpayers' dime to promote Christianity, you libs would have had a s fit.
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The Quinnipiac University poll, released Thursday morning, found that 46 percent of Manhattanites support the 13-story mosque and community center, called Cordoba House. Thirty-six percent of Manhattan voters oppose the proposal
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Want to put your account on the line with this comment? I'm looking at the poll you're talking about right now and you're flat-out lying through your teeth and wording it around people in Manhattan and not NYC as a whole.
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Want to put your account on the line with this comment? I'm looking at the poll you're talking about right now and you're flat-out lying through your teeth and wording it around people in Manhattan and not NYC as a whole. ;D
blacken is a proven liar and plagiarizer so nothing would surprise me.
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oh well they live the closest and according to 333386 thats what counts :D :D :D :D
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More than half of New York voters oppose Ground Zero mosque plan: poll
BY SAMUEL GOLDSMITH
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
More than half of New York voters oppose building a Muslim community center blocks away from Ground Zero, a new Quinnipiac University poll found.
A solid 52% of voters in the five boroughs don't want the Cordoba House in lower Manhattan, and just 31% are behind the center.
Voters in Manhattan are most supportive of the project, with 46% in favor.
The strongest opposition came from Staten Island, where 73% of voters oppose it.
"Is it because we're still nursing the wounds from the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center, or is it more like bigotry?" asked Maurice Carroll, the poll's director.
The Cordoba House, a planned 13-floor Muslim community center and mosque two blocks from Ground Zero, has upset families of 9/11 victims and their supporters. They claim the building would amount to a monument for terrorists.
But Islamic community leaders insist the project is about building bridges between Muslims and non-Muslims.
Community Board 1, which represents lower Manhattan, voted in favor of building the mosque in May. Most politicians who represent the area have thrown their support behind it.
The Cordoba House doesn't need city approval to be built downtown. Developers own the land at 45 Park Place, and it is properly zoned for a community center.
The only potential construction obstacle is the pending landmarks status for the building. Mosque developers intend to demolish the former home of a Burlington Coat Factory store to build the center.
The Landmarks Preservation Commission will vote on the fate of the building later this month.
Opposition to the Cordoba House aside, 55% of New Yorkers polled said "mainstream Islam" is a "peaceful religion," compared with 22% who said the religion "encourages violence against non-Muslims."
Officials from the Cordoba House yesterday declined to comment on the poll.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/07/01/2010-07-01_more_than_half_of_new_york_voters_oppose_ground_zero_mosque_plan_poll.html#ixzz0wDRmqcCl
Get the fuck out of here, blacken. Thanks for showing us a perfect example of your spin bullshit. What a spinster scumbag.
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The Quinnipiac University poll, released Thursday morning, found that 46 percent of Manhattanites support the 13-story mosque and community center, called Cordoba House. Thirty-six percent of Manhattan voters oppose the proposal
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read the post braindead :D :D :D :D :D :D
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read the post braindead :D :D :D :D :D :D
Again, it's convenient how you completely ignored the fact that the majority of people in NYC oppose this mosque. But it's nice that 1 of the 5 boroughs has 46% supporting it (Hint: That's still not a majority, retard).
46% is less than a majority, thus your statistic means shit.
46% is not a majority. Is that hard to grasp?
You have been shown to be nothing more than a spinster douche. Stick to posting youtube videos as if you're special for copy/pasting the link from DU.
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read the post braindead :D :D :D :D :D :D
Because you don't live here, you are utterly clueless how NYC is constructed. Most of the dead probably did not even live in Manhattan. Most were probably from the bouroughs , especially the cops and firemen.
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Because you don't live here, you are utterly clueless how NYC is constructed. Most of the dead probably did not even live in Manhattan. Most were probably from the bouroughs , especially the cops and firemen.
46% isn't even a majority, so the statistic that he's throwing around means jack shit.
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you must be one of the dumbest fucks. who else would put their mom dancing around :D :D :D
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their the closest ask 333386 ;D
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you must be one of the dumbest fucks. who else would put their mom dancing around. :D :D :D
Nice rebuttal.
their the closest ask 333386 ;D
Learn basic grammar before you try to insult someone's intelligence. Hint: It's "they're", moron. Someone definitely struggled to get through high school. Embarrassing. :D :D :D :D
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their the closest ask 333386 ;D
Have you even visited NYC?
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BUMP
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We send Pakistan $10 billion+ every year to kill our own soldiers so this isn't surprising. ::)
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Have you even visited NYC?
why are you going to buy me a beer :)
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why are you going to buy me a beer :)
I was thinking more like tossing your ass off the Brooklyn Bridge.
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US spending $16,000 for imam's Mideast tour
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WASHINGTON — American taxpayers will pay the imam behind plans for a mosque near the Manhattan site of the Sept. 11 attacks $3,000 in fees for a three-nation outreach trip to the Middle East that will cost roughly $16,000, the State Department said Wednesday.
The department said Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf will get a daily $200 honorarium for the 15-day tour to Bahrain, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, which is intended to promote religious tolerance.
Airfare is included, as well as the standard federal government per diem for expenses and lodging in each of the cities he will visit, spokesman P.J. Crowley said. Those per diem rates range from nearly $400 to nearly $500, according to official documents.
The imam's organization, The Cordoba Initiative, referred questions on the matter to the State Department.
Rauf starts his tour Thursday in Bahrain and ends it in the United Arab Emirates Sept. 2. At each stop he is expected to discuss Muslim life in America and promote religious tolerance. He will not be allowed to raise funds for the mosque on the trip, Crowley said.
"We have had conversations with the imam to make sure he understands that during these kinds of trips, he's not to engage in any personal business," Crowley told reporters. "He understands that completely."
"We value his participation as a religious figure here in the United States who can help people overseas understand the role that religion plays in our society," he said.
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Rauf's tour has drawn attention because of his plans to build an Islamic center in lower Manhattan near ground zero. Foes of the project say it is insensitive and disrespectful to the victims of 9/11 and their families. The debate has become politicized ahead of November's midterm congressional elections.
Crowley said this will be Rauf's fourth U.S.-government sponsored trip under a program run by the State Department's Bureau of International Information Programs. Earlier, the State Department had said it was his third trip.
Crowley said Rauf had traveled twice to the Middle East in 2007 during the Bush administration and once earlier this year.
On his upcoming trip, Rauf will be in Manama, Bahrain, from Thursday until Monday; Doha, Qatar, from Aug. 24 to Aug. 27 and in Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates from Aug. 28 to Sept. 2.
The published maximum per diem rate for U.S. government employees in Manama is $396, in Doha it is $341, and in Abu Dhabi it is $496.
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The best part is that they've been refusing to tell anyone exactly what this, pro-Sharia, pro-terrorism, anti-interfaith dialogue Islamist will be doing for the govt. over there. So not only are we footing the bill, the "transparent" WH won't even tell us what this snake will be doing for us.
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Imagine if Bush paid for Jerry Falwell to go across the ME to spread Christianity?
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Imagine if Bush paid for Jerry Falwell to go across the ME to spread Christianity?
Bush sent 200,000 men with guns to do that ;)
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I will be there as well as this is akin to the Westboro freaks protesting funerals of soldiers.
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Protesting the building of the mosque at GZ. And to your point - the Westboro slime are and is not even remotely close the cops in NYPD. I know on far left wing sites you like they post bs like that - but that does not make it true.