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Title: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 09, 2010, 11:07:40 AM
I cannot stop laughing and the fact the media believes this pile of horse shit  is hilarious

"overtrained athlete syndrome,"  BWAHAHAHA

HOUSTON (AP) -- Suspended Houston Texans linebacker Brian Cushing says his positive test for a fertility drug was the result of overtraining.
Cushing is suspended for the first four games this season after testing positive last September for HCG, a drug on the league's banned substance list. Cushing says he never took the drug, which can be used to restart testosterone production after a steroid cycle, and has no idea how it got into his body.
Cushing worked out with his team on Monday morning. He says doctors have told him that the failed drug test resulted from "overtrained athlete syndrome," a condition that he says can trigger hormonal spikes.
Texans owner Bob McNair flew to New York on Monday to meet with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell in hopes of getting Cushing's punishment reduced. The league denied Cushing's appeal of the suspension in February.
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on August 09, 2010, 11:14:28 AM
wow, just fucking WOW ::)
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: 240 is Back on August 09, 2010, 11:15:51 AM
y
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: The Showstoppa on August 09, 2010, 11:16:46 AM
This clown had moobs in HS.....just sit out the suspension and move on you f'n idiot.
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 09, 2010, 11:22:06 AM
I cannot stop laughing and the fact the media believes this pile of horse shit  is hilarious

"overtrained athlete syndrome,"  BWAHAHAHA

HOUSTON (AP) -- Suspended Houston Texans linebacker Brian Cushing says his positive test for a fertility drug was the result of overtraining.
Cushing is suspended for the first four games this season after testing positive last September for HCG, a drug on the league's banned substance list. Cushing says he never took the drug, which can be used to restart testosterone production after a steroid cycle, and has no idea how it got into his body.
Cushing worked out with his team on Monday morning. He says doctors have told him that the failed drug test resulted from "overtrained athlete syndrome," a condition that he says can trigger hormonal spikes.
Texans owner Bob McNair flew to New York on Monday to meet with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell in hopes of getting Cushing's punishment reduced. The league denied Cushing's appeal of the suspension in February.

Thats the biggest bunch of horseshit I've ever heard especially since over training decreases test levels., but props for originality.
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: CAPTAIN INSANO on August 09, 2010, 11:30:14 AM
What will they come up with next  ???  ::)
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 09, 2010, 11:30:23 AM
Thats the biggest bunch of horseshit I've ever heard especially since over training decreases test levels., but props for originality.

I was reading a story on ESPN where the analyst was practically apologizing for ever calling cushing a drug user.  How can people believe this bullshit.
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndr
Post by: ThaRealist on August 09, 2010, 11:34:45 AM
"Poor me, I got caught syndrome" lol why won't everyone just accept that professional athletes use steroids. Hell, I say let them use as much as they want and have the rules go back to that of the 70's
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 09, 2010, 11:35:00 AM
I cannot stop laughing and the fact the media believes this pile of horse shit  is hilarious

"overtrained athlete syndrome,"  BWAHAHAHA

HOUSTON (AP) -- Suspended Houston Texans linebacker Brian Cushing says his positive test for a fertility drug was the result of overtraining.
Cushing is suspended for the first four games this season after testing positive last September for HCG, a drug on the league's banned substance list. Cushing says he never took the drug, which can be used to restart testosterone production after a steroid cycle, and has no idea how it got into his body.
Cushing worked out with his team on Monday morning. He says doctors have told him that the failed drug test resulted from "overtrained athlete syndrome," a condition that he says can trigger hormonal spikes.
Texans owner Bob McNair flew to New York on Monday to meet with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell in hopes of getting Cushing's punishment reduced. The league denied Cushing's appeal of the suspension in February.

HAHAHAHAHA the key to getting more test in your system all along has been overtraining?
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: Howard on August 09, 2010, 11:37:03 AM
Thats the biggest bunch of horseshit I've ever heard especially since over training decreases test levels., but props for originality.
That is the best excuse since some sprinter said he failed the test because he just had sex prior to taking it hehehehehehe
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 09, 2010, 11:54:43 AM
That is the best excuse since some sprinter said he failed the test because he just had sex prior to taking it hehehehehehe

Didn't Ben Johnson claim that someone put winstrol into his water bottle.  HAHAHA
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: 225for70 on August 09, 2010, 12:03:30 PM
That is the best excuse since some sprinter said he failed the test because he just had sex prior to taking it hehehehehehe

Nandrolone is an anabolic steroid that has recently caused a great deal of controversy after a number of big name athletes have been banned from competition after failing tests for this drug. These include Linford Christie, Mark Richardson and Dougie Walker (all well known British sprinters), Merlene Ottey (the Jamaican former 200 m world champion), and Dieter Baumann (the German 500 m runner). After protesting their innocence, all were subsequently cleared by their national athletics organisations, although the International Amateur Athletics Federation fueled the controversy further by overturning the reinstatement of Christie and Walker. As well as athletes, French soccer star Christophe Dugarry tested positive for nandrolone after a match last year, and following a Wimbledon quarter final in 1998 Czech tennis player Petr Korda also failed a test. But the fact that so many sportsmen have tested positive for the same substance in such a short space of time has led to speculation that the testing procedure may be flawed, or inaccurate.   
British sprinter Linford Christie, who controversially failed a test for nandrolone earlier this year.


The drug known as nandrolone (also known commercially as Deca-Durabolin) has the IUPAC name 17b-hydroxy-19-nor-4-andro-sten-3-one, and is an anabolic steroid (a muscle-building chemical) which occurs naturally in the human body, but only in tiny quantities. It is very similar in structure to the male hormone testosterone, and has many of the same effects in terms of increasing muscle mass, without some of the more unwanted side-effects such as increased body hair or aggressive behaviour. As such, it is being actively examined in clinical tests as a possible treatment for wasting diseases, and to strengthen and increase body tissue and musculature in HIV infected men. In this form it is usually injected in its decanoate form, after first being dissolved in a suitable edible oil.

However, what is detected in the drug tests is the metabolism product of this molecule, called 19-norandrosterone, which is excreted from the body in urine, making it easy to obtain samples. A limit of 2 ng per ml of urine (set by the International Olympic Committee) is the maximum concentration thought possible to occur in human body by 'natural means', and if this is exceeded the drug test is considered positive. Since some samples given by athletes have shown levels up to 100 times higher than this, the conclusion is that the athletes must have been taking extra quantities of the drug to enhance their performance.   
   
The steroid nandrolone and its metabolite 19-norandrosterone. The structural differences between them consist of a reduction of a double bond to a single bond accompanied by a reduction of a carbonyl to a hydroxyl group in the first ring, and an oxidation of a hydroxyl sidegroup to a carbonyl in the fourth ring. These differences are shown in blue.


Below for comparison, are the more familiar steroid hormones, testosterone and progesterone. You can see that nandrolone and testosterone are almost identical, differing only by one methyl group, shown in red. Progesterone (the female pregnancy hormone) is also very similar, perhaps giving some credence to the boxer's claim mentioned below...

 

So, if the tests are flawed, what could be going wrong? Many excuses have been put forward to suggest why nandrolone is present in much higher concentrations than it should be. Bobsleigh racer Lenny Paul said that his positive test was due to eating a plate of spaghetti bolognese which contained beef from cattle that had been fed steroids. Although the UK Sport Nandrolone Review Group said that there was only a 'remote' possibility of meat consumption leading to a positive test, the athlete was cleared by his sporting body. Another sportsman, a boxer, said he failed his test after having sex with his pregnant wife! He too, was cleared.

Another possible explanation, often cited by athletes caught with positive tests, is that the nandrolone in their system arose from the use of protein milkshakes and the amino acid creatine, which are perfectly legal and used as dietary supplements to increase weight. But it is difficult to see how nandrolone could be produced from the benign components of these substances, unless they had been accidentally or deliberately contaminated. Subsequent testing, however, ruled out any deliberate contamination.

A much more likely theory has recently emerged from the results of a preliminary investigation at Aberdeen University. The findings are that dietary supplements themselves are harmless and produce no increased levels of nandrolone. Exercise alone, too, doesn't cause any problems. But a combination of both dietary supplements (none of which contain a banned substance) and exercise, can result in a positive nandrolone test. The reason for this is still unclear, but one theory is that there is a link between heavy training, the dehydration that goes with it, and their effects upon the components of high protein diets. Until more work is done, however, the 'nandrolone mystery' goes on...
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: what: on August 09, 2010, 12:30:27 PM
I must look up overtrained athlete syndrom in the encyclopedia of made-up conditions. 
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: Howard on August 09, 2010, 12:35:22 PM
Didn't Ben Johnson claim that someone put winstrol into his water bottle.  HAHAHA
He did , then had to retract that statement hehehe.
He tried to say the since he was from Canada, that former MR Canada , Vince Basille (now living in Australia)tried to sabotage him and the Canadian Olympic team :'(
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndr
Post by: ThaRealist on August 09, 2010, 12:39:50 PM
He did , then had to retract that statement hehehe.
He tried to say the since he was from Canada, that former MR Canada , Vince Basille (now living in Australia)tried to sabotage him and the Canadian Olympic team :'(

Those pesky Canadians, ain't no rest for the wicked
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: Doug_Steele on August 09, 2010, 01:34:18 PM
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: Lion666 on August 09, 2010, 03:34:28 PM
good business move... as an owner, player etc... all the money the team dr's make, about time they came up with something useful and all it is is a phrase... a nice blanket phrase that can be disputed forever and can never really be proven or disproven... of course people in the know, like us know better but for normal media influenced sheep people, this will excuse the positive drug tests that come up in sports and are only now really publicized because of the media frenzy in regards to roids...

im not condoning or advocating the use just giving a view on why this "phrase" has come about and reasoning behind its use.
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: Fatpanda on August 09, 2010, 03:41:12 PM
 ::) doesn't this guy know that overtraing athlete syndrome has been disproven by none other than getbigs own hulkotron  :o

apparently the only people who overtrain are twinks, fat guys and fat twinks   :o

no court or athletic commision will believe him now.
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 09, 2010, 04:04:33 PM
HAHAH, this gets better

Cushing said months of tests show that he had a ''unique'' medical condition that led to the positive test.

''Every individual is genetically different,'' he said. ''I had a unique situation where something like this occurred and we have the science to back it up. It's taken months. It's really beyond what we ever thought and it's beyond the regular medical doctor.

''We've gone in depth, and there has been a lot of money spent on the research,'' he said. ''There have been a lot of interesting results that I think can help us.''
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: Howard on August 09, 2010, 06:22:19 PM
HAHAH, this gets better

Cushing said months of tests show that he had a ''unique'' medical condition that led to the positive test.

''Every individual is genetically different,'' he said. ''I had a unique situation where something like this occurred and we have the science to back it up. It's taken months. It's really beyond what we ever thought and it's beyond the regular medical doctor.

''We've gone in depth, and there has been a lot of money spent on the research,'' he said. ''There have been a lot of interesting results that I think can help us.''
Sooo if he blew up a polygraph as well when he kept this lie up, he could call it some form of "eletro -impulse syndrome" hehehe
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: tonymctones on August 09, 2010, 07:10:04 PM
actually he never tested positive for steroids or failed a steroid test...but I agree be honest about it I dont care if he is shooting up on the sidelines if he performs like he did last year
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 09, 2010, 07:13:45 PM
This clown had moobs in HS.....just sit out the suspension and move on you f'n idiot.

Will Brink?
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: njflex on August 09, 2010, 07:46:47 PM
dianabol was used by most 70's players and now 3 decades later they have ovetrained athlete'e failing drug tests for this syndrome  :'(
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: jtsunami on August 09, 2010, 09:52:16 PM
i believe him, but he should get that gyno fixed

Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: Emmortal on August 09, 2010, 10:01:50 PM
HCG isn't produced by men under any circumstances that I'm aware of. So either he used HCG at some point, or he's really a woman, who's pregnant.
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: Hulkotron on August 09, 2010, 10:29:45 PM
::) doesn't this guy know that overtraing athlete syndrome has been disproven by none other than getbigs own hulkotron  :o

apparently the only people who overtrain are twinks, fat guys and fat twinks   :o

no court or athletic commision will believe him now.

Haha, looks like I touched a nerve with Fatvaginda here!  Stick to arguing about comic book fights you fat hairy nerd.
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: Fatpanda on August 10, 2010, 08:03:07 AM
Haha, looks like I touched a nerve with Fatvaginda here!  Stick to arguing about comic book fights you fat hairy nerd.
;D awful touchy for a genius sports scientist  :-*

you should be happy - coaches, trainers, olympians, etc all over the world are ripping up their training logs as we speak - your revelations about overtraining syndrome have released the sports world from the shackles of poor performance  :D

Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: Hulkotron on August 10, 2010, 11:04:43 AM
;D awful touchy for a genius sports scientist  :-*

you should be happy - coaches, trainers, olympians, etc all over the world are ripping up their training logs as we speak - your revelations about overtraining syndrome have released the sports world from the shackles of poor performance  :D



You're the one melting down all over the board making unprovoked posts about me.  Who's the touchy one again?  Your level of insecurity is quite sad.
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: G_Thang on August 10, 2010, 11:28:17 AM
if he cant stay on his current regime...his nfl career is over like bosworth.  all drugs. 
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: MCWAY on August 10, 2010, 11:45:03 AM
I cannot stop laughing and the fact the media believes this pile of horse shit  is hilarious

"overtrained athlete syndrome,"  BWAHAHAHA

HOUSTON (AP) -- Suspended Houston Texans linebacker Brian Cushing says his positive test for a fertility drug was the result of overtraining.
Cushing is suspended for the first four games this season after testing positive last September for HCG, a drug on the league's banned substance list. Cushing says he never took the drug, which can be used to restart testosterone production after a steroid cycle, and has no idea how it got into his body.
Cushing worked out with his team on Monday morning. He says doctors have told him that the failed drug test resulted from "overtrained athlete syndrome," a condition that he says can trigger hormonal spikes.
Texans owner Bob McNair flew to New York on Monday to meet with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell in hopes of getting Cushing's punishment reduced. The league denied Cushing's appeal of the suspension in February.

Who said the media believe it? This article simply reported Cushing's claims.
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: Fatpanda on August 10, 2010, 03:51:55 PM
You're the one melting down all over the board making unprovoked posts about me.  Who's the touchy one again?  Your level of insecurity is quite sad.
don't be so humble.

i'm just highlighting the fact that we have a genuine sports genius among as all  :D
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: Rami on August 10, 2010, 05:26:07 PM
I cannot stop laughing and the fact the media believes this pile of horse shit  is hilarious

"overtrained athlete syndrome,"  BWAHAHAHA

HOUSTON (AP) -- Suspended Houston Texans linebacker Brian Cushing says his positive test for a fertility drug was the result of overtraining.
Cushing is suspended for the first four games this season after testing positive last September for HCG, a drug on the league's banned substance list. Cushing says he never took the drug, which can be used to restart testosterone production after a steroid cycle, and has no idea how it got into his body.
Cushing worked out with his team on Monday morning. He says doctors have told him that the failed drug test resulted from "overtrained athlete syndrome," a condition that he says can trigger hormonal spikes.
Texans owner Bob McNair flew to New York on Monday to meet with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell in hopes of getting Cushing's punishment reduced. The league denied Cushing's appeal of the suspension in February.

yes it can trigger hormonal spikes. Only, they are negative spikes in 100% of the cases.
Title: Re: Texans LB Brian Cushing failed steroid test due to overtrained athlete syndrome
Post by: cswol on August 10, 2010, 05:43:14 PM
brian cushing is a homo