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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Master Blaster on August 09, 2010, 04:12:45 PM
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Getbig's resident expert finally speaks out: Growth hormone is USELESS for bodybuilders, doesn't grow any muscle. ECA is more effective! :o
the facts on gh are this:
1) it's useless for growing muscle
2) it helps burn bodyfat/spares muscle during calorie deficit due to said fat burning properties.
3) if you take too much it turns you into a mutant, with bones growing wild etc not to mention the possible gh gut that still has been neither proven nor disproven.
Now eca, and clen do the same thing as no:2. Also slow calorie reduction also works well i hear :D
so why would anyone spend money on such a useless, and potentially dangerous item is a mystery ???
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You have spent thousands of dollars on something you were so sure was having a profound effect?
Keep the head in the sand.
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Getbig's resident expert finally speaks out: Growth hormone is USELESS for bodybuilders, doesn't grow any muscle. ECA is more effective! :o
Look at the guys pics, they don't lie..
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bump
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find some proof that it does and that should settle it
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pic #3 is trevor smith, correct?
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while dante's no fitness model, fat panda wishes he was as thin as him.
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Ron should give FP expert stars right away, LOL!
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find some proof that it does and that should settle it
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/100/images/Dorian_Yates_photo102.jpg)
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Getbig's resident expert finally speaks out: Growth hormone is USELESS for bodybuilders, doesn't grow any muscle. ECA is more effective! :o
GH will just burn fat by ITSELF... Now when you add some humalog or igf, there is a different story.
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(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/100/images/Dorian_Yates_photo102.jpg)
(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/350x0/d/c//dc48d-dorian_yates_9293.gif)
Dorian Yates claims he used hGH throughout his entire career in bodybuilding
That 20+/-lbs jump between Olympia presentations was not attributable to the direct use of hGH.
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find me 1 study that shows definitive muscle growth when gh is used alone, and i'll change my message.
also learn to comprehend the english language master assblaster - i did not say eca was more effective, i said it does the same as no:2 on my list i.e. burn fat and help spare muscle during caloric deficit.
you gimmicks are getting quite upset this week - how many more pm's will i get :D
the funniest thing about these attacks is your moms will never and has never bought any of you gh - yet you still argue about it, like you are pro users :D
not a brain cell between you ;)
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find me 1 study that shows definitive muscle growth when gh is used alone, and i'll change my message.
you r an entertaining poster...but growth has been shown to cause hyperplasia..not individual hypertrophy of individual muscle fibers but evidence of hyperplasia by an over abundance of satellite cells...dont ask me for the study..i read it on medline eons ago and i sure as hell am not going looking for it and similar studies over a getbig thread
165 soaking wet and fat to count....so according to getbig...i'm prolly wrong mate.. :-\
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you r an entertaining poster...but growth has been shown to cause hyperplasia..not individual hypertrophy of individual muscle fibers but evidence of hyperplasia by an over abundance of satellite cells...dont ask me for the study..i read it on medline eons ago and i sure as hell am not going looking for it and similar studies over a getbig thread
165 soaking wet and fat to count....so according to getbig...i'm prolly wrong mate.. :-\
you are correct - in the presence of testosterone ;)
without test - gh is a fat burner
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you are correct - in the presence of testosterone ;)
without test - gh is a fat burner
I can concur with this.
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the funniest thing about these attacks is your moms will never and has never bought any of you gh - yet you still argue about it, like you are pro users :D
not a brain cell between you ;)
That actually got a chuckle out of me, a classic Getbig response, you fat fuck. ;D
Seriously though, you have your head in the sand. This is just like when medical science said that steroids don't work or low carb diets don't work. All the major pro's are using GH for a reason. It helps get them huge. There are no studies to show this and there may never be. There's never going to be some pro stack with GH compared to an anabolic only stack compared to a placebo group.
Aint never gonna happen so don't ask me to show you one. Kind of a straw man style argument you have going there. ;)
Now if I can't just get mom on board for some tren and GH, it's almost my birthday, yay!!!
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you are correct - in the presence of testosterone ;)
without test - gh is a fat burner
u r right...but what pro bber has an absence of test in his system mang ???
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That actually got a chuckle out of me, a classic Getbig response, you fat fuck. ;D
Seriously though, you have your head in the sand. This is just like when medical science said that steroids don't work or low carb diets don't work. All the major pro's are using GH for a reason. It helps get them huge. There are no studies to show this and there may never be. There's never going to be some pro stack with GH compared to an anabolic only stack compared to a placebo group.
Aint never gonna happen so don't ask me to show you one. Kind of a straw man style argument you have going there. ;)
Now if I can't just get mom on board for some tren and GH, it's almost my birthday, yay!!!
i honestly think its just the placebo effect, compounded by the high cost of gh, making it too hard to accept that the gh does nothing more than burn fat, and grow things you don't want to grow.
perhaps its an amazing fat burner - and people are confusing cuts with muscle growth :-\
we can agree to disagree.
i'm not trying to create a strawman argument - steroids even in low dosages showed some muscle growth, normally increasing with higher dosages. gh has shown no growth in studies in normal dosages, and when dosages get higher the side effects get very bad - but still no growth. scientifically speaking there is no argument at all ;)
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pic #3 is trevor smith, correct?
Correct. The 4th pic is Dante.
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i honestly think its just the placebo effect, compounded by the high cost of gh, making it too hard to accept that the gh does nothing more than burn fat, and grow things you don't want to grow.
perhaps its an amazing fat burner - and people are confusing cuts with muscle growth :-\
we can agree to disagree.
i'm not trying to create a strawman argument - steroids even in low dosages showed some muscle growth, normally increasing with higher dosages. gh has shown no growth in studies in normal dosages, and when dosages get higher the side effects get very bad - but still no growth. scientifically speaking there is no argument at all ;)
Its actually the water retention(gives you a fuller look) in combination with fat loss(leaner) along with the increased INSULIN sensitivity(this can help put on size) = effects for bodybuilder
...and then there is recovery, joints, skin, appetite etc etc all those lovely things hGH does but lets not say muscle growth
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find me 1 study that shows definitive muscle growth when gh is used alone, and i'll change my message.
also learn to comprehend the english language master assblaster - i did not say eca was more effective, i said it does the same as no:2 on my list i.e. burn fat and help spare muscle during caloric deficit.
you gimmicks are getting quite upset this week - how many more pm's will i get :D
the funniest thing about these attacks is your moms will never and has never bought any of you gh - yet you still argue about it, like you are pro users :D
not a brain cell between you ;)
Bro , these studies mean nothing as it pertains to bodybuilding..Alot of doctors still think steroids dont have any bearing in regards to muscle growth and they all get there info from these studies and books..
Real World pwns Studies.
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Its actually the water retention(gives you a fuller look) in combination with fat loss(leaner) along with the increased INSULIN sensitivity(this can help put on size) = effects for bodybuilder
...and then there is recovery, joints, skin, appetite etc etc all those lovely things hGH does but lets not say muscle growth
Typo ?
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Bro , these studies mean nothing as it pertains to bodybuilding..Alot of doctors still think steroids dont have any bearing in regards to muscle growth and they all get there info from these studies and books..
Real World pwns Studies.
TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENTS, AND DAILY WE ARE HEARING ABOUT THE STUDIES. THE MATTER IS HOW TO USE IT CORRECTLY..
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wow, fatpanda is a fucking moron
why is this gentleman waxing poetic on the subject of bodybuilding anyway???
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=345165.0;attach=380031;image)
growth hormone doesnt cause hypertrophy, lol.............tell that to the bodybuilder from the 70s who saw the crop of bodybuilders arriving on the scene in the late 80s early 90s :-\ :-\ :-\
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The unemployed bum should stick to doing what he does best, sleeping in cardboard boxes and fishing in dumpsters for food