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go from superstar to a mediocre wanna be deadly killer assassin ::)
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is he with jake shields in that bottom pic?
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Going this weekend to meet with Mark Munoz with possibility of working with him for his next fight. Like all of these other idiot "diet experts" in the MMA world, he's sick of dropping 25lbs in a week, week and a half. One so called "expert" was sending out emails to follow him on his "journey" to drop 26lbs in 12 days. Hey Mike Dolce, that's not a good so why brag about? (He reads these boards)
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I know fighters that lose 25 lbs in a day before the weigh in. I can lose 15 easily. As long as you re-hydrate, and put all the weight back on, you won't even lose any strength doing it.
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Not true, you can't recover that from such a shock to your body, Dolce and I hashed this out RIGHT after Rampages fight, remember that fight with Rashad? He gassed because he dropped too quick. Its idiotic, its old school and dehydration is never good for any period of time.
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Going this weekend to meet with Mark Munoz with possibility of working with him for his next fight. Like all of these other idiot "diet experts" in the MMA world, he's sick of dropping 25lbs in a week, week and a half. One so called "expert" was sending out emails to follow him on his "journey" to drop 26lbs in 12 days. Hey Mike Dolce, that's not a good so why brag about? (He reads these boards)
26lbs in 12days whats the secret? beside the obvious
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26lbs in 12days whats the secret? beside the obvious
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LOL that photo is hilarious
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I know fighters that lose 25 lbs in a day before the weigh in. I can lose 15 easily. As long as you re-hydrate, and put all the weight back on, you won't even lose any strength doing it.
Exactly. If the state allows a guy to compete at any weight as long as he makes weight the day before. The rebound effect can make a man in the lighter weights classes think he is super human when he fights 20 to 30 pounds heavier than the allowed weigh in weight.
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Not true, you can't recover that from such a shock to your body, Dolce and I hashed this out RIGHT after Rampages fight, remember that fight with Rashad? He gassed because he dropped too quick. Its idiotic, its old school and dehydration is never good for any period of time.
Don't be silly. Tons of professional boxers have been doing this for decades and still do for a reason.
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Not true, you can't recover that from such a shock to your body, Dolce and I hashed this out RIGHT after Rampages fight, remember that fight with Rashad? He gassed because he dropped too quick. Its idiotic, its old school and dehydration is never good for any period of time.
This, anybody that thinks that crash dieting and dehydrating doesnt effect your performance in fights has either never done it or never done it and fought the same day...
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Ain't he like 40, shit I hope mma ain't my mid life crisis,
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Don't be silly. Tons of professional boxers have been doing this for decades and still do for a reason.
LMAO that doesnt mean that its the best way...wrestlers do this as well...I did this as well when I competed in judo trust me it is extremely detrimental to strength and endurance.
Now I will agree that maybe within 5 lbs or so it could be beneficial but 10+ lbs within a couple of days with eating little to nothing, sweating your ass off not drinking anything...LMAO if you dont think that effects performance.
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Not true, you can't recover that from such a shock to your body, Dolce and I hashed this out RIGHT after Rampages fight, remember that fight with Rashad? He gassed because he dropped too quick. Its idiotic, its old school and dehydration is never good for any period of time.
Its a shock for all the non wrestling mma fighters who put on a bunch of shit weight and then try to make weight. Those types of people just don't have the experience with it and it will be a shock to their body. Its a science.
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Don't be silly. Tons of professional boxers have been doing this for decades and still do for a reason.
Some guys can do it , some guys can't .
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LMAO that doesnt mean that its the best way...wrestlers do this as well...I did this as well when I competed in judo trust me it is extremely detrimental to strength and endurance.
Now I will agree that maybe within 5 lbs or so it could be beneficial but 10+ lbs within a couple of days with eating little to nothing, sweating your ass off not drinking anything...LMAO if you dont think that effects performance.
What drugs did you also take to cut weight? Do you know of any undetectable speed agents that can be used come fight night? Have you tried blood doping an hour before you are about to fight?
Do you really think GSP never gases because of his cardio? Come on bro. Next your gonna tell us all the Ronnie Coleman got his pro card while being natural. Or Jim Quinn once measured Flex Wheelers bodyfat level and it was .003 ::)
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Some guys can do it , some guys can't .
agreed.
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What drugs did you also take to cut weight? Do you know of any undetectable speed agents that can be used come fight night? Have you tried blood doping an hour before you are about to fight?
Do you really think GSP never gases because of his cardio? Come on bro. Next your gonna tell us all the Ronnie Coleman got his pro card while being natural. Or Jim Quinn once measured Flex Wheelers bodyfat level and it was .003 ::)
LMAO youre stance was that it doesnt effect performance which is assinine...
I did most of it naturally as they did random tests at any time kinda like the nfl and tested 1-3 at most big tournaments. We did use mild laxatives from time to time but I dont think they did much to be honest probably b/c we didnt really eat or drink much. Mostly cardio, not eating much if anything and sweating like a stuck pig in a suana or using a sweat suit.
Ive dropped 10-15 lbs in a couple days and again to think that doing so in any fashion wouldnt effect your performance is ignorant...
Id say within 5 lbs or so is doable but anything over that is going to be detrimental
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He is Filipino, the breed of champion Asian athletes. I wouldn't be surprised if he won a three-way double elimination with Fedor and Brock in the ring at the same time .
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I had a friend of mine who is Irish MMA champion on pgcl to drop 14kg in 3wks
He did it no problem and kept strength
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Isn't this guy super injury prone? His mma career will be over before it starts.
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tattoos + affliction shirt = mma champ
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I don't get why Batista is doing it or why someone would even sign him. He can't even move around in a wrestling ring and always gets hurt. I was excited when I heard Brock was making the transition due to his background. Even got my hopes up for Lashley, but I don't see what Batista brings to the table other than a box office draw for one match.
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Not true, you can't recover that from such a shock to your body, Dolce and I hashed this out RIGHT after Rampages fight, remember that fight with Rashad? He gassed because he dropped too quick. Its idiotic, its old school and dehydration is never good for any period of time.
Matt Kroc telling how he loses 35 lbs in a day without any strength loss. Call it idiotic and old school if you want, I can lose 15 with no problems and I'm only 205-210. A bigger guy can lose quite a bit more. Its not fun, but it doesn't hurt my performance to any noticable degree.
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A lot of you guys saying it isn't the best way, etc, aren't thinking about the guys that don't have a lot of fat to lose. If some fat-ass is using dehydration to lose 15 lbs overnight while carrying 25 lbs of fat, then yeah, its just stupid. But a guy that is already lean doesn't have another 15 lbs to lose. Then dehydrating isn't only the best way, its the only way. As long as you put all the weight back on, it doesn't hurt your performance.
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A lot of you guys saying it isn't the best way, etc, aren't thinking about the guys that don't have a lot of fat to lose. If some fat-ass is using dehydration to lose 15 lbs overnight while carrying 25 lbs of fat, then yeah, its just stupid. But a guy that is already lean doesn't have another 15 lbs to lose. Then dehydrating isn't only the best way, its the only way. As long as you put all the weight back on, it doesn't hurt your performance.
alot of the guys who are saying it is possible havent done it and are only going off of what the MMA guys say in interviews...LMAO
you dont lose 15lbs especially in water weight and not have it effect your performance strength and endurance wise. If you have a day between weigh ins and competing then fine but not the same day and from what I understand MMA fights weigh in on the same day?
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Matt Kroc telling how he loses 35 lbs in a day without any strength loss. Call it idiotic and old school if you want, I can lose 15 with no problems and I'm only 205-210. A bigger guy can lose quite a bit more. Its not fun, but it doesn't hurt my performance to any noticable degree.
what are you doing in terms of actions that you didnt notice any degree of decline in performance?
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I have only done it for fights. The ones I did had the weigh in the day before, and the fights were the next evening. When I wrestled, I didn't like to cut more than a couple lbs because the weigh-ins were immediately before the matches and you didn't have time to re-hydrate. That really does hurt your performance if you try to compete dehydrated.
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I have only done it for fights. The ones I did had the weigh in the day before, and the fights were the next evening. When I wrestled, I didn't like to cut more than a couple lbs because the weigh-ins were immediately before the matches and you didn't have time to re-hydrate. That really does hurt your performance if you try to compete dehydrated.
EXACTLY if you have a day before competing then fine I still think that dropping an excessive amount of weight 15+lbs is going to hurt you but not anywhere near the amount it would if its the same day...
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EXACTLY if you have a day before competing then fine I still think that dropping an excessive amount of weight 15+lbs is going to hurt you but not anywhere near the amount it would if its the same day...
That is what I said from the start. You have to have time to put all the weight back on. Obviously, if you cut 15lbs and step onto the mat, you didn't have time to put ANY of it back on, let alone all of it. I can tell you from my own experience, if you can get all the weight back on, it doesn't hurt you. That is why guys like Kroc can lose 35 lbs in one day and set personal records the next. You just have to start re-hydrating and getting food back in immediately.
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tattoos + affliction shirt = mma champ
LMAO!......Don't know about champ, but with the right training I don't see why he couldn't do some damage.
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My all-time favourite wrestler. OOOOOOOOOOH YEAAAAAAAAAH! ;D
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Don't be silly. Tons of professional boxers have been doing this for decades and still do for a reason.
One thing I for sure, there is very little to no science placed in the nutrition of either MMA fighters or in boxing. So the "and still do it for a reason" doesn't hold water (no pun intended). While everyone else is struggling to re-hydrate the times after the weigh-ins till the fight, my guys are drinking there water and pedialite while there WAITING for the weigh-ins not after. You guys seem to forget that muscle is still 65-70% water and even when re-hydrated quickly it still isn't enough to fully recover especially when your eating, sparring and everything else thats done before a fight. Nerves take a toll sometimes so much on the CNS that even though you THINK you're re-hydrated you quickly find yourself week before the sound on the first round bell.
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One thing I for sure, there is very little to no science placed in the nutrition of either MMA fighters or in boxing. So the "and still do it for a reason" doesn't hold water (no pun intended). While everyone else is struggling to re-hydrate the times after the weigh-ins till the fight, my guys are drinking there water and pedialite while there WAITING for the weigh-ins not after. You guys seem to forget that muscle is still 65-70% water and even when re-hydrated quickly it still isn't enough to fully recover especially when your eating, sparring and everything else thats done before a fight. Nerves take a toll sometimes so much on the CNS that even though you THINK you're re-hydrated you quickly find yourself week before the sound on the first round bell.
You seem to forget, I actually do it and it works for me. It may not for everyone, but it does for me. I don't THINK I'm re-hydrated, I know I am, cuz I put back all the water I lost, as evidenced by the scale and urine color. And since that leads to the inevitable questions about who I am, can I beat up GSP and Fedor, am I just making this up, it works for Matt Kroc too, and he drops a hell of a lot more weight than I do and then comes in and sets PRs, so I don't think he is mistaken about it working for him either.
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You seem to forget, I actually do it and it works for me. It may not for everyone, but it does for me. I don't THINK I'm re-hydrated, I know I am, cuz I put back all the water I lost, as evidenced by the scale and urine color. And since that leads to the inevitable questions about who I am, can I beat up GSP and Fedor, am I just making this up, it works for Matt Kroc too, and he drops a hell of a lot more weight than I do and then comes in and sets PRs, so I don't think he is mistaken about it working for him either.
Not saying it doesn't work, just saying there's a better way.
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Im actually rooting for him after that interview. just a humble dude that wanna try something hes always wanted to and try it before hes waaay to old. isn't talking about no championship fights or anything, isn't hating on poeple thats talking shit etc etc.
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Im actually rooting for him after that interview. just a humble dude that wanna try something hes always wanted to and try it before hes waaay to old. isn't talking about no championship fights or anything, isn't hating on poeple thats talking shit etc etc.
As cool as they come... hope he does well.
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Not saying it doesn't work, just saying there's a better way.
much much much better way...
plane and simple you would be better off not having to sweat off 10+lbs rather than having to...