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Title: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: Parker on August 15, 2010, 11:55:24 AM
Was he deserving  of the hype? The mag covers, the suggestions that he was the next Mr. O? Or the comparisons to Shawn Ray? Even though in his short lived career he did exhibit the polished "ladies man" persona and physique that was not dis-similar to Shawn Ray

here is a link
http://www.usamuscle.com/bodybuilders/detail.asp?CompetitorID=3434 (http://www.usamuscle.com/bodybuilders/detail.asp?CompetitorID=3434)
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: Parker on August 15, 2010, 12:03:42 PM
Another link, check the triceps, similar to Ronnie Coleman's in that they were not as prominant in tricep shots
http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/showthread.php?t=984 (http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/showthread.php?t=984)
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: Boost on August 15, 2010, 12:04:25 PM
I think Shawn Ray created the hype surrounding this guy.

                  
He's good, but he lacks too many things.

  
                  
His arms aren't big enough
to match his chest.

  
                  
His thighs are too big for his calves.

  
                  
He hits one pose.

  
                  
ln that, he looks like a big spider.
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: saucetradomous on August 15, 2010, 12:09:33 PM
I think he deserves all the hype.  Dude looks great.  Maybe not the biggest physique to win shows but definitely magazine cover material.  He's never put everything into bodybuilding it's always been a hobby still, not his job.  Which isn't a bad thing.
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: G_Thang on August 15, 2010, 12:12:53 PM
the clone is never as good as the original.  he had shawn's cover looks, but the physique and substance weren't there.  also...remember he had a career n school going on in the background which i think he considered more his meal ticket than bbing vs shawn.  
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on August 15, 2010, 12:20:12 PM
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: Parker on August 15, 2010, 12:22:52 PM
I think he deserves all the hype.  Dude looks great.  Maybe not the biggest physique to win shows but definitely magazine cover material.  He's never put everything into bodybuilding it's always been a hobby still, not his job.  Which isn't a bad thing.
I kinda agree with you on the first part. But, it seems that it was part Shawn, part Flex that created the hype. I remember seeing a pic of him in Flex when he was competing at 180 pounds---awesome chest. I think someone at the Weider/Flex staff took notice and saw the similarities and so it began

here is the cover
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt123/britishbeefcake/richardjones2.jpg)

I also agree with you G as well. Dude had a job and school, but Richard has been at the bbing game since his early 20s, and now he is in his mid 30s, done pretty well for a mere hobby, when those who take it serious have Jack squat.
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 15, 2010, 12:27:26 PM
crazy genetics, no doubt
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: axestream on August 15, 2010, 12:31:16 PM
(http://www.axestream.com/pics/bb/jones/rj032.jpg)
(http://www.axestream.com/pics/bb/jones/rj038.jpg)
(http://www.axestream.com/pics/bb/jones/rj009.jpg)
(http://www.axestream.com/pics/bb/jones/rj007.jpg)
(http://www.axestream.com/pics/bb/jones/rj011.jpg)
(http://www.axestream.com/pics/bb/jones/rj019.jpg)

He could have been great but wanted to focus on other things. That was a smart move. The come back was not.
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: G_Thang on August 15, 2010, 12:33:44 PM
it is a bit crazy that MD, RXmuscle, etc. dont do more "where are they now?" series...a peak into their lives off of the stage.  i enjoy vids like Jay-Z and Shawn' Inside and Out, am so tired of the training segments on those sites.   Anja Langer and Alq Gurley would be interesting also.

if the comeback is similar to sean jenkins....where as they keep their careers first...i'm all for it.
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: Parker on August 15, 2010, 12:38:26 PM
it is a bit crazy that MD, RXmuscle, etc. dont do more "where are they now?" series...a peak into their lives off of the stage.  i enjoy vids like Jay-Z and Shawn' Inside and Out, am so tired of the training segments on those sites.   Anja Langer and Alq Gurley would be interesting also.
Alq Gurley had a "Big Picture" in Flex, or it could have been a flashback---he had said Shawn Ray was Mr. Bodybuilding, in fact, he was like a taller version of Shawn. He had done modeling in Italy as well. Dude at a young age look awesome.
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: saucetradomous on August 15, 2010, 12:40:53 PM
that back pic is crazy
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: Parker on August 15, 2010, 12:51:53 PM
that back pic is crazy
Indeed, Jason Huh should have this pic on his fridge---this is the back he needs to emulate. Jay Cutler should ask himself why a dude who he out weighs by 50 pounds could have axbetter back than him.
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on August 15, 2010, 12:53:34 PM
(http://i6.tagstat.com/image01/2/1900/0001052MxA0.jpg)
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: epic_alien on August 15, 2010, 01:20:27 PM
I think Shawn Ray created the hype surrounding this guy.

                  
He's good, but he lacks too many things.

  
                  
His arms aren't big enough
to match his chest.

  
                  
His thighs are too big for his calves.

  
                  
He hits one pose.

  
                  
ln that, he looks like a big spider.


i love it, classic
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on August 15, 2010, 01:30:37 PM
I think Shawn Ray created the hype surrounding this guy.

                  
He's good, but he lacks too many things.

  
                  
His arms aren't big enough
to match his chest.

  
                  
His thighs are too big for his calves.

  
                  
He hits one pose.

  
                  
ln that, he looks like a big spider.


Are you talking about Mike Katz here?  ???
Sounds like a Ken Waller quote from pumping iron
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: tallgerman on August 15, 2010, 01:59:14 PM
shawn rey was  a ladys man? since when? lol  or do you mean he dessed like a lady on the weekend?
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: Parker on August 15, 2010, 02:02:13 PM
shawn rey was  a ladys man? since when? lol  or do you mean he dessed like a lady on the weekend?
Everybody knows Shawn Ray was a ladies man, and he dated Brooke Burke, always had fine ass women. And his wife is fine as well. He apparently was the one who told Flex to check out Madeline and her twin sister...
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 15, 2010, 02:07:44 PM
Everybody knows Shawn Ray was a ladies man, and he dated Brooke Burke, always had fine ass women. And his wife is fine as well. He apparently was the one who told Flex to check out Madeline and her twin sister...

He was a ladies man here he is in 97 with the chick he was with before the wife
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: G_Thang on August 15, 2010, 02:10:25 PM
He was a ladies man here he is in 97 with the chick he was with before the wife

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=345668.0;attach=380177;image)

 :-X ( i dont mean she is ugly physically...just spiritually)

is this the chick that ragged him on this board?

where is azusa?
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: Wiggs on August 15, 2010, 02:14:49 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=345668.0;attach=380177;image)

 :-X ( i dont mean she is ugly physically...just spiritually)

is this the chick that ragged him on this board?

Yep!  I remember when that happened.
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: G_Thang on August 15, 2010, 02:33:05 PM
Yep!  I remember when that happened.

azusa said she ran in same circles as shawn....said the crazy girl but could no longer picture who she was.  i'd be curious if she'd open up with this picture.  i know it wasn't annie marie...a bit too old school.
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: JP_RC on August 15, 2010, 03:55:44 PM
Everybody knows Shawn Ray was a ladies man, and he dated Brooke Burke, always had fine ass women. And his wife is fine as well. He apparently was the one who told Flex to check out Madeline and her twin sister...

I didn't know this, is it true?
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: Parker on August 15, 2010, 03:58:36 PM
Is that same chcik that was walking with him the Final Countdown? Her name was Karen Toucher I believe. Never liked her hair, that hairsprayed bang in front.


I didn't know this, is it true?
Yeah, G_Thang has posted a pic a million times before...
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: ThaRealist on August 15, 2010, 03:59:01 PM
Why does he bother with BB when he has professional degrees he can use
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: JP_RC on August 15, 2010, 04:10:10 PM
Yeah, G_Thang has posted a pic a million times before...

Really? I didn't see it.............blonde chick looks good to me though.
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: G_Thang on August 15, 2010, 04:13:19 PM
Why does he bother with BB when he has professional degrees he can use

as shawn told knoxville...how the hell i cant afford a lambo on 150k  x 12 yrs with a sister as an attorney?  i think shawn has a sociology degree which doesn't pay that.  i'd say he probably earns more now than working with juveniles.  obviously...richard fell back on his BA/MBA.  Ronnie Police/Acct vs MrO?  Phil Computer Science vs Top six fig pro?  if you're a top guy...you get to lift weights, travel and eat.  BTW...i dont think shawn has ever had a real job.  MD and Goat Cheese company dont count.
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: Parker on August 15, 2010, 04:15:08 PM
Why does he bother with BB when he has professional degrees he can use
Because, like anything, some people have a passion for it...the iron bug bit him prolly when he was in college. Here is a clip of him at 22


he views it as a hobby, but he was damn good at it, better than most people who have earned a pro card. Imagine all those athletes in other sports and what they could look like if they took up bbing.
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: ThaRealist on August 15, 2010, 04:55:49 PM
Because, like anything, some people have a passion for it...the iron bug bit him prolly when he was in college. Here is a clip of him at 22


he views it as a hobby, but he was damn good at it, better than most people who have earned a pro card. Imagine all those athletes in other sports and what they could look like if they took up bbing.

I gotta laugh (sorry) at both you two responding to my comment...Are you sure neither of you two have a tounge or cock up eachothers' ass??? Cause you two damn sure show up at the same time it's hilarious....
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: G_Thang on August 15, 2010, 05:30:41 PM
I gotta laugh (sorry) at both you two responding to my comment...Are you sure neither of you two have a tounge or cock up eachothers' ass??? Cause you two damn sure show up at the same time it's hilarious....

standard wake a$$ getdumb response.  yet another one i cant remember a post from.  anyway...us browns, no matter the nation, language barrier or tribe, are likely to show up in threads which generally pertain to us...stupid ass.   and people of color if it is shawn, the Dominicans  ::) , alicia harris  :o , etc rank at the top.  did you ever notice minorities dont pay attention or seldom respond to my tranny posts...just the crackers like you (no racist)?  ;D

anyway...time to check out.  peace.   
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: ThaRealist on August 15, 2010, 05:34:19 PM
standard wake a$$ getdumb response.  yet another one i cant remember a post from.  anyway...us browns, no matter the nation, language barrier or tribe, are likely to show up in threads which generally pertain to us...stupid ass.   and people of color if it is shawn, the Dominicans  ::) , alicia harris  :o , etc rank at the top.  did you ever notice minorities dont pay attention or seldom respond to my tranny posts...just the crackers like you (no racist)?  ;D

anyway...time to check out.  peace.   

I was just statin the facts "bro" lol...Get offended if you want to. I really don't really give a damn I just think it is hilarious....Never made any link between Jone's race and what I thought by the way....
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: ThaRealist on August 15, 2010, 05:49:11 PM
standard wake a$$ getdumb response.  yet another one i cant remember a post from.  anyway...us browns, no matter the nation, language barrier or tribe, are likely to show up in threads which generally pertain to us...stupid ass.   and people of color if it is shawn, the Dominicans  ::) , alicia harris  :o , etc rank at the top.  did you ever notice minorities dont pay attention or seldom respond to my tranny posts...just the crackers like you (no racist)?  ;D

anyway...time to check out.  peace.   

Did you ever notice how Parker doesn't back you on idiotic posts??? There is a reason for that....How bout you think about your brown shaded eyes and what others might think with out color of skin an issue???
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: Parker on August 15, 2010, 06:01:56 PM
I gotta laugh (sorry) at both you two responding to my comment...Are you sure neither of you two have a tounge or cock up eachothers' ass??? Cause you two damn sure show up at the same time it's hilarious....
I responded because it was stated before and also by Richard Jones as well

He took time off to pursue his Masters, he also was working as LE as well


I don't respond to G_Thang's posts of certain things because as he says he counter balances the other "posters", at one time I used to do that.
Also,  he in a sense was right, regardless of you not making a comment, when there is thread about a person of color, it's bound to happen that several posters will respond to the same comment.
 G has a way of saying it. Thata his way.
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: ThaRealist on August 15, 2010, 06:24:23 PM
I responded because it was stated before and also by Richard Jones as well

He took time off to pursue his Masters, he also was working as LE as well


I don't respond to G_Thang's posts of certain things because as he says he counter balances the other "posters", at one time I used to do that.
Also,  he in a sense was right, regardless of you not making a comment, when there is thread about a person of color, it's bound to happen that several posters will respond to the same comment.
 G has a way of saying it. Thata his way.

Oh well, put yourself on his level....I know it doesn't mean shit, but thanks to you and G for further retarding your race....Keep up the good work for pointing out race rather than anything else....Let me be racist now; and say a brother can't fight for himself...
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: G_Thang on August 16, 2010, 06:28:39 AM
I responded because it was stated before and also by Richard Jones as well

He took time off to pursue his Masters, he also was working as LE as well


I don't respond to G_Thang's posts of certain things because as he says he counter balances the other "posters", at one time I used to do that.
Also,  he in a sense was right, regardless of you not making a comment, when there is thread about a person of color, it's bound to happen that several posters will respond to the same comment.
 G has a way of saying it. Thata his way.

stop wasting you time....parker...explain ing stuff.  anyway...where is your girl...azusa?  i bet she knows this chick.  if she pms you about her...let me know.  i had family back in fullerton in the day.  they are in north cal now.  thanks.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=345668.0;attach=380177;image)
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: Parker on August 16, 2010, 06:36:30 AM
stop wasting you time....parker...explain ing stuff.  anyway...where is your girl...azusa?  i bet she knows this chick.  if she pms you about her...let me know.  i had family back in fullerton in the day.  they are in north cal now.  thanks.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=345668.0;attach=380177;image)
I believe that is Karen Toucher, his one time fiance..
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: G_Thang on August 16, 2010, 06:40:22 AM
I believe that is Karen Toucher, his one time fiance..

azusa couldn't match the name with the face. 
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: CC973 on August 16, 2010, 07:01:13 AM
looked great by himself but when you put him on stage against other pros he disappears.
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: Tapeworm on August 16, 2010, 08:43:55 AM
No one has anything to say about the look on that guy's face?  Really?!
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: kiwiol on August 16, 2010, 08:50:55 AM
No one has anything to say about the look on that guy's face?  Really?!

He's not hideous enough to justify a 'movie star good looks' comment.

And like the guy above mentioned, he looked great by himself, but got outmuscled big time in just about every call out. He bore a resemblance to Shawn facially and even structurally in part, which he emphasised by posing very similar to Shawn. But Shawn was leagues above RJ at all times.

Mags like FLEX just hype whoever is new on the scene with something (remotely) interesting about them - their looks or their strength or some other oddity.

Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: Tapeworm on August 16, 2010, 08:58:00 AM
Nah, not ugly.  And a pround member of team shavehead.  Looks like the photographer caught him mid-belch tho.
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: Howard on August 16, 2010, 09:36:08 AM
He was a ladies man here he is in 97 with the chick he was with before the wife
Damn that  Shawn Ray....She has that pretty , fresh from the farm look (HOT!)
In that pic he looks like Lurch saying ; " You rang"
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: gh15 on August 16, 2010, 09:46:28 AM
richard johns was al hype ,,not even remotely close to ray,,he saw what it takes to make damage and how mauch money and hormones,,he saw that you can diet all year long and work your ass btu if you dont have EVERY FUCKIN DRUG YOU NEED you wont look better and even not the same as a year prior,,he decided it was too much ,,bodybuilding is a drug cult my friends,,you need to know your drugs ,,if for one second you think you can compete on testosterone only at any good level you are severely mistaken!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: G_Thang on August 16, 2010, 09:54:08 AM
richard johns was al hype ,,not even remotely close to ray,,he saw what it takes to make damage and how mauch money and hormones,,he saw that you can diet all year long and work your ass btu if you dont have EVERY FUCKIN DRUG YOU NEED you wont look better and even not the same as a year prior,,he decided it was too much ,,bodybuilding is a drug cult my friends,,you need to know your drugs ,,if for one second you think you can compete on testosterone only at any good level you are severely mistaken!

gh15 approved

whatever!  richard jones did what zucco, sean paul and some others did which was to pick a upper five - six fig real 9-6 career vs a life as a 2nd - 3rd tier pro.  if i couldnt make an impact at the pro level similar to phil heath...bbing would just be my hobby.
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: LurkyLurker on August 16, 2010, 01:18:07 PM
richard johns was al hype ,,not even remotely close to ray,,he saw what it takes to make damage and how mauch money and hormones,,he saw that you can diet all year long and work your ass btu if you dont have EVERY FUCKIN DRUG YOU NEED you wont look better and even not the same as a year prior,,he decided it was too much ,,bodybuilding is a drug cult my friends,,you need to know your drugs ,,if for one second you think you can compete on testosterone only at any good level you are severely mistaken!

gh15 approved

You say "richard johns" was "al hype" but then go on to say how he made a conscious decision not to risk his health and spend all his money to compete at a higher level. He had a perfect structure and the ability to put on lots of striated muscle. It may have been a stretch to peg him as a future Mr. O, but he definitely wasn't "al hype".
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: Tapeworm on August 16, 2010, 04:09:19 PM
He had to kill Bob Morton.
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: WillGrant on August 16, 2010, 04:14:19 PM
I think Shawn Ray created the hype surrounding this guy.

                  
He's good, but he lacks too many things.

  
                  
His arms aren't big enough
to match his chest.

  
                  
His thighs are too big for his calves.

  
                  
He hits one pose.

  
                  
ln that, he looks like a big spider.

;D You should steal his T shirt
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 16, 2010, 04:28:47 PM
I believe that is Karen Taucher, his one time fiance..

That's her
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: Ursus on August 16, 2010, 05:07:10 PM
I kinda agree with you on the first part. But, it seems that it was part Shawn, part Flex that created the hype. I remember seeing a pic of him in Flex when he was competing at 180 pounds---awesome chest. I think someone at the Weider/Flex staff took notice and saw the similarities and so it began

here is the cover
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt123/britishbeefcake/richardjones2.jpg)

I also agree with you G as well. Dude had a job and school, but Richard has been at the bbing game since his early 20s, and now he is in his mid 30s, done pretty well for a mere hobby, when those who take it serious have Jack squat.

That was the first FLEX I bought lol
Title: Re: Richard Jones, was he all hype?
Post by: dr.chimps on August 16, 2010, 05:18:21 PM
He had to kill Bob Morton.
Nicely played, Sir!   ;D