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Title: Cro Cop in for Nog versus Mir
Post by: coltrane on August 16, 2010, 06:17:42 AM
Oh brother. 

I feel that poor Cro Cop is gonna get one hell of a beating on this one.

Love Cro Cop, but at this point, Mir is lightyears ahead of him.


THoughs?
Title: Re: Cro Cop in for Nog versus Mir
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on August 16, 2010, 10:24:13 AM
Mir really only has the clear advantage on the ground, his wrestling dissappeared due to his  accident , Cro cop can pretty much sit back and kickbox with Mir unless one of his kicks get caught or Mir pushes him against the cage and gets a takedown from there.  They both mentally fold and Frank gets about as much miles per gallons as a hummer.  I like cro cops chances, I'd say it's 50/50.
Title: Re: Cro Cop in for Nog versus Mir
Post by: coltrane on August 16, 2010, 10:53:01 AM
Mir really only has the clear advantage on the ground, his wrestling dissappeared due to his  accident , Cro cop can pretty much sit back and kickbox with Mir unless one of his kicks get caught or Mir pushes him against the cage and gets a takedown from there.  They both mentally fold and Frank gets about as much miles per gallons as a hummer.  I like cro cops chances, I'd say it's 50/50.

Chute, I really respect your insight into this sport, but 50/50?  We've all seen Cro Cop's last few UFC fights.  He's basically a non threat these days. 

Title: Re: Cro Cop in for Nog versus Mir
Post by: AC Slater on August 16, 2010, 11:52:42 AM
mir sucks ass and was never any good, but cro cop is old and washed up i think.    i am betting mir wins.
Title: Re: Cro Cop in for Nog versus Mir
Post by: coltrane on August 16, 2010, 12:12:08 PM
mir sucks ass and was never any good, but cro cop is old and washed up i think.    i am betting mir wins.

Kinda baffled at some of you on here.

Wasn't Mir the UFC champ on a few different occasions?  Isn't he still a top ranked heavyweight?


What woulda made him "good" by your opinion?   ???
Title: Re: Cro Cop in for Nog versus Mir
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on August 16, 2010, 12:49:00 PM
Chute, I really respect your insight into this sport, but 50/50?  We've all seen Cro Cop's last few UFC fights.  He's basically a non threat these days.  

Mir hasn't looked all that great either in his last few fights, Cro-cop is at least riding a 2 fight win streak, whilst Mir is coming off being raped by a bear, that is never a good thing mentally.  Stylistically Mir has got to get the fight to the ground in order to win, Mir comes out in a southpaw stance and usually does ok against orthodox fighters on the feet, Cro-cop is'nt an orthodox fighter.  Stylistically speaking this is an even fight, since Mir is gonna be banking on the takedown to work his bjj, and cro-cop is gonna be looking at avoiding the takedown and and just workin his standup.  The longer the fight goes the better it looks for Cro-cop, Mir is notorious for being a 1 round fighter.
Title: Re: Cro Cop in for Nog versus Mir
Post by: Captain Equipoise on August 16, 2010, 01:49:50 PM
Mir is delusional and getting outclassed by EVERYONE, at this point he's just a gatekeeper or stepping stone... Cro Cop since leaving Pride has been afraid to pull the trigger and engage, he was always a careful/cautious fighter but it's bordering on ridiculous he's so afraid to engage there's no point him being in the cage anymore. I think Gonzaga did more damage to his psyche than anyone is willing to admit.
Title: Re: Cro Cop in for Nog versus Mir
Post by: George Whorewell on August 16, 2010, 04:34:43 PM
I just see this as a very boring fight. I think Mir will win, but I never count Cro Cop out when he stands. Mir is a can and Cro Cop is washed up. 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.
Title: Re: Cro Cop in for Nog versus Mir
Post by: chaos on August 16, 2010, 05:39:00 PM
I think Gonzaga did more damage to his psyche than anyone is willing to admit.

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Title: Re: Cro Cop in for Nog versus Mir
Post by: AC Slater on August 16, 2010, 07:54:02 PM
Kinda baffled at some of you on here.

Wasn't Mir the UFC champ on a few different occasions?  Isn't he still a top ranked heavyweight?


What woulda made him "good" by your opinion?   ???


who has mir beaten?

he won a controversial victory over cock chestnar, and a staff infected nogueria who was 6 years past his prime.  he will gas if the fight makes it to the 2nd round.
Title: Re: Cro Cop in for Nog versus Mir
Post by: LatsMcGee on August 17, 2010, 03:34:24 AM

who has mir beaten?

he won a controversial victory over cock chestnar, and a staff infected nogueria who was 6 years past his prime.  he will gas if the fight makes it to the 2nd round.

When he snapped Tim Sylvia's arm I applauded,  awesome stuff. 
Title: Re: Cro Cop in for Nog versus Mir
Post by: coltrane on August 17, 2010, 06:20:41 AM

who has mir beaten?

he won a controversial victory over cock chestnar, and a staff infected nogueria who was 6 years past his prime.  he will gas if the fight makes it to the 2nd round.

Well you say he's a nobody, etc, but he's been title holder twice.  To say hes a nobody is a tad rough, no?

Anyway, I agree with Whorewell...  boring fight.
Title: Re: Cro Cop in for Nog versus Mir
Post by: Nathan on August 17, 2010, 11:53:48 AM
I dont see Cro Cop winning he's not strong enough on the ground.
Title: Re: Cro Cop in for Nog versus Mir
Post by: Captain Equipoise on August 17, 2010, 12:27:20 PM
I dont see Cro Cop winning he's not strong enough on the ground.


He's not mentally strong enough anymore, his heart's not in it anymore..hard to watch cause the guy was a f*cking counter-terrorist commando !!!!  :o  :o