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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Stavios on August 17, 2010, 12:24:18 PM
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Are they junk ?
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Are they junk ?
No not junk, per se, It almost would be too costly to fake these because they are so cheap, but you must trust your source...Zafa Sust is pretty cheap too...
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Maybe the manufacture has produced a shit ton and is trying to get rid of them and lowered the price to move volume. I like omnadren and for the price you cant go wrong. I personally I like the Karachi's and Zafa's and I can get them for about the same price as omnadren's.
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I got a shitload of Scherings and Abus' DIRT cheap...
MUST be fake ::) ::)
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they really never have been expensive.......a lot less people using sust, or omnas as compared to ten years ago also....more people are just using the E, C, and P...
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bench,
is there any reason for that? ppl using E, C, or prop instead?
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bench,
is there any reason for that? ppl using E, C, or prop instead?
lot of reasons i suppose.......mine was always cause i didnt like the blends....id rather buy the single esters and just batch them......if i used again i would still batch my test......not my anabolics though...
bench
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sorry For my not understand of this...but what's the benefit of that besides your control how many mgs of each ester? is there something you don't like about Sust?
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sorry For my not understand of this...but what's the benefit of that besides your control how many mgs of each ester? is there something you don't like about Sust?
omna ingredients
30mg testosterone propionate
60mg testosterone phenylpropionate
60mg testosterone isocaproate
100mg testosterone caproate
sust ingredients
Propionate
Phenylpropionate
Isocaproate
Decanoate
have you ever considered using a test ester in either of those blends except prop?....i havent...never have i considered running any of those by them self except prop......so i just always batched my own test.....this is just a personal thing with me.......not everyone will agree, nor do they have too.......if sust work for you, use it.....but i find what i did to work much better...
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omna ingredients
30mg testosterone propionate
60mg testosterone phenylpropionate
60mg testosterone isocaproate
100mg testosterone caproate
sust ingredients
Propionate
Phenylpropionate
Isocaproate
Decanoate
have you ever considered using a test ester in either of those blends except prop?....i havent...never have i considered running any of those by them self except prop......so i just always batched my own test.....this is just a personal thing with me.......not everyone will agree, nor do they have too.......if sust work for you, use it.....but i find what i did to work much better...
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Ive been runing Sust with a little Prop, and Tbol to kick start and then just runTest E's...said fuck it might as well use them
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Ive been runing Sust with a little Prop, and Tbol to kick start and then just runTest E's...said fuck it might as well use them
i always got a large vial and filled it with 30ml of test E, and 10ml of test P....
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Ive been runing Sust with a little Prop, and Tbol to kick start and then just runTest E's...said fuck it might as well use them
That and also the esters take a month to clear before you can start PCT because of the Test Decanoate...So you have that drag time of 1 month where you can just use prop to bridge until PCT...
I'd rather stick with Test E's and Test Prop...
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i always got a large vial and filled it with 30ml of test E, and 10ml of test P....
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homebrew? ;)
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I fucking love Test Prop with 25% ethyl oleate..hit my delt this morning..completely painless 8)
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testosterone + any ester = testosterone
esters must first be metabolised(detached, broken down) before the steroid (testosterone) can exert action (bind to androgen receptor).
regardless of what ester was attached to the testosterone molecule, the benefits of the steroid come from its binding to an androgen receptor.
so again, test + any ester = test
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testosterone + any ester = testosterone
esters must first be metabolised(detached, broken down) before the steroid (testosterone) can exert action (bind to androgen receptor).
regardless of what ester was attached to the testosterone molecule, the benefits of the steroid come from its binding to an androgen receptor.
so again, test + any ester = test
like i said...its a personal thing......i would rather just have 1 long acting, and 1 short acting......you can get off your soap box now.......
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like i said...its a personal thing......i would rather just have 1 long acting, and 1 short acting......you can get off your soap box now.......
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you said "i find what i did to work much better" .. switching from a blend of different esters to a single ester would never make any difference in results, maybe water retention, but thats it.
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you said "i find what i did to work much better" .. switching from a blend of different esters to a single ester would never make any difference in results, maybe water retention, but thats it.
this goes back to what i was saying about you thinking too much into this shit.....everbody is different...if everybody was the same we wouldnt have food allergies....everyone is going to react different.....stop reading all these studies, and constants(in reality there are none), and try shit out instead...
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your right, and if you did experience better results then nothing i post would ever change that fact. but the fact of the matter is that steroids exert there effects through the androgen receptor, and esters must first be metabolised before any steroid can bind with the receptor. deductive logic indicates.. ;D
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your right, and if you did experience better results then nothing i post would ever change that fact. but the fact of the matter is that steroids exert there effects through the androgen receptor, and esters must first be metabolised before any steroid can bind with the receptor. deductive logic indicates.. ;D
....a constant...which doesnt exist...
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....a constant...which doesnt exist...
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energy is the "known" constant. and energy=matter/material.
the constant doesnt exist? well, it exists as much as your brain exists.
true nature of reality?? only spirit exists, matter/energy is illusion. (its infinitely divisible you know)
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energy is the "known" constant. and energy=matter/material.
the constant doesnt exist? well, it exists as much as your brain exists.
true nature of reality?? only spirit exists, matter/energy is illusion. (its infinitely divisible you know)
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you will never get it......
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lmao ;D i get it, perfectly.
test is test is test.. blend of esters or single ester, no difference in effectiveness...
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I get mine straight from Poland so I know they are good. Never had a problem with omnas. Now if you are getting you gear from Naps and other places I'd be skeptical.
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I get mine straight from Poland so I know they are good. Never had a problem with omnas. Now if you are getting you gear from Naps and other places I'd be skeptical.
I agree, Omnas coming out of Poland are G2G..
I'm on real Organon Sust, been running these EOD for almost 2 weeks..
Making Solid gains already.
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lmao ;D i get it, perfectly.
test is test is test.. blend of esters or single ester, no difference in effectiveness...
Wonderful now move on. Your doing the same shit here that your doing in the "using deca for a long time thread". If you had actually ever come off the gear and done a PCT recovered and cycled again, you might understand what he means when he says one ester works better than the other. I know 50 plus year old guys that have ten times the knowledge you have Tbombz that make the same claims about sust. One of them is a mod on XtraXXL who is still competing today. I'm talking about guys with decades of real life experience. Would you tell them different also?